 But 2023 general elections, the national elections will come up in less than 10 days now and some people still feel that we may not be really ready, especially because of the security situation in the country and the fact that some people are just feeling that the polity is really, really tense right now. How confident are you of a successful 2023 election beginning with the one coming up in less than 10 days? I think that we are sure by those in charge of security that there won't be a problem regarding that. Even though I don't have 100% trust in them and what they say, but I believe the insecurity we are having today may not be enough to stop the election because we are not having insecurity everywhere in the country. We have only a few areas and at worst those three will not be able to conduct their election in terms of participating in the electoral process. In that regard, it would be unfortunate and there would be a self-inflicted disadvantage as far as I'm concerned. So I think the level of security in this country today may not be enough to stop our election from going up because we have a large number of states that are peaceful in a way. We have only a few areas where we have this insecurity going up and down. The only thing is that except we have a self-induced insecurity on the issue of election by people who want to manipulate elections, that may lead to cancellation of elections in certain areas because some people want to do that and say, scare people away from voting. Just like people who are threatening people now, they may want to do that on that election day. You can see when Peter of you was in Lagos, you can see the kind of attack they received. We saw it on social media, we saw it in the news and everywhere. Except we have seen pockets of prices in that regard. But as far as I'm concerned, those pockets of prices may not be enough to stop the general election. And I have hope that the election will go on a schedule except for that it will stop it. What about your party, the PDP? What chances do they have? Especially since we see that the internal crisis have not been resolved. Even though there are explanations why these things are happening and we are short before now, that whatever the problem is, there will be a resolution before the election. But we've seen that in River State, for instance, the presidential campaign couldn't go there for whatever reason. But the people are attributing that to the fact that there's a rift between we, the governor of River State, who happens to be from history, a very strong financial muscle for the PDP. Even though the numbers may not come from there as in terms of voting, but a lot have been depending on River State for some help. Now that this resolution has not been reached and elections are approaching, do you think that rift will affect the PDP? And if not, why are you so confident? Let me first of all say that PDP is not in crisis. There's no crisis in PDP as far as I'm concerned. The issue of G5, which is now G1 as far as I'm concerned, is a substitute. And the fact that without River State or whatever, the party will not be able to spend money or whatever. Wiki has not been supported since the primary. Party has been moving from one place to another. They've been doing their thing. Governor Wiki is not the only man in the party. Governor Wiki has the right to agree and take whatever it wants to take. And it's not only in PDP that you see this kind of a thing. In APC, we have seen people who are members of the APC who have moved because of Muslim tickets. Who have said they have moved, but they are not behaving like Governor Wiki. That's why they are not on the news. Governor, former Speaker, was in PDP at APC. He has moved to PDP. The former Chief of Secretary was in APC. He has moved to PDP. Daniel Buala was in APC. He has moved. So many other people are also in APC. There are half issues with them have moved. But they are not taking it like Governor Wiki. Who are not handling it well in a mature way? And that's why you are saying you are talking about this crisis. There is no crisis without concern. Somebody is not happy. Somebody is aggrieved. And he has the right to be. That the father is aggrieved and he's not cooperating. It does not mean we're practicing crisis. And the father, people started to decide not to go to refer seats to do their campaign because they follow life than force. They said, look, if they want to go do that rally in that in reverse, they will be there. But there may be crisis. And they don't want to lose anybody because of an election. And that's why they say, look, let's suspend the campaign for now because they place their attention on the line in that area. And that is the reason why that is happening. It's not because Governor Wiki is preventing anybody from doing any campaign anywhere. Governor Wiki is not the owner of the state. He's not the only person from the reverse state. So there are some other people who are from the reverse state. Who are supporting Aladji Artigua, Fubaka. And I tell you, with or without reverse seats, with or without Governor Wiki, Artigua Fubaka is the candidate to beat. He is the winner of this election, even before the election. You can see he's the only person who has the capacity to deliver this election. He has a structure everywhere. He has been around for long. And nobody can be compared to Aladji Artigua, Fubaka in terms of this election. Governor President Buwari currently did not win reverse seats in the last election and in 2019. Governor President Buwari did not win the South-South and South-Twist. Today is a president. So with or without reverse seats, with or without South, I am sure as some of the states in South will be won by PDP. And that will give us whatever we are looking for. And even the area where the PDP will not win South, they will have the 25% show in that area, which is what is important for mother. I assure you, we'll come back and see it. Aladji Artigua will win the election. Okay, I hope that day arrives. But we're just worried that a child as big as Wiki, I'm using the family now, if he's going the other way, a father is not able to bring him back. Is it that he's lacking the words to make this recalcitrant son to repent? Or is that he has just condemned him? So because you have many children, he doesn't matter? Does it mean that because you have many children, he doesn't matter? No, if one child is saying he's not going to cooperate with other children, will you now abandon that other one because of him? Or will you stop what you are doing and say, look, since this one is not accepting our mode of oppression, we will not do anything again? So he has the right, he's the governor today, yes. Let him leave tomorrow. You will see what will happen. All this control that he's having is because he's in charge, because he's the governor. By the time he leaves the seat as the governor, he will realize that look, he didn't do well in terms of handling the issue. And I hope you will not tell the director. Okay, Baristatunji, it's always a pleasure having you on the program and throwing light on the issues that we find some gray areas. And now you're very confident that PDP will win. We wish you luck, that's all we can say. Every other thing will be decided by Nigeria. Thank you very much. We said amazing together. Okay, very good. Make sure the Naira notes are available for everybody to use. No, you have to go and sit down for that. Okay, or queue at the ATM. Whatever it is, we pray that Nigeria will experience peace rather than violence, whether it's during election or after election or before election, because now a lot of people sleep at ATM machines. They sleep at banking premises. They sleep everywhere that they think that they can have some cash, because like we say, everybody is saying, you have your money, but you cannot spend it. I was expecting Baristatunji. Anyway, this is not something to respond to, but I was expecting the governors who seem to be so, so interested in this. This is what I wanted to say that time, but I said I didn't want to put words in your mouth. I was expecting them to engage the NCC, for instance, to make sure that online banking is seamless, because a lot of people who are complaining could have done without having to go to the ATM, because they have the facility that they could do transfers and they buy from places that they can do transfers to. But it's not working, and NCC should have been looking at this, but they neglected the NCC and went after the federal government. The DMOs also are taking on necessary charges, because even if I want to do a transaction, no matter how small the money they cut, they cut like two times or three times for every transaction, no matter how small it is, it's very painful. It's sometimes more painful than losing a huge sum of money. These people should be engaged as well to make sure these charges are no longer there, because you put 5,000 in a bank and the next month you are taking maybe 4,800, because the charges have taken away the 200 from your small 5,000 that you put there. And also the National Security Advisor should have been engaged to see how, within the premises of the financial institutions, there would be security and other things, but they left these three critical sectors or critical agencies and they are fighting the federal government. Yes, they are also having a good approach, but I think the very critical people have been neglected and it is the federal government that they are fighting. If I had the opportunity to do transactions for everything I do, there's no problem for that. To me at all, there's no problem. But in the case where I do a transaction, like you said, you've done a transaction since January 27th until now. It has not yielded any fruits. Then there is really a problem. But be that as it may, may Nigeria find peace rather than violence. Thank you so much Barista Tunji Abdul Hamid for coming on the program. Thank you for having me. It's my pleasure. Bye-bye. Okay, thank you. Well, Tunji Abdul Hamid is a Quora State PDP Presidential and State Campaign Council member and he's been talking with us here on the show. We'll take a news break. We'll be back in a moment. Stay with us.