 So thank you both very much, and we're going to continue doing this early on so that you're not languishing Hours into the meeting without having been called on and without knowing if you ever will be so does this work for you? Yeah, I think it works good good. That's great Wonderful then. Okay. Let's now move on to 3.0 Board operations board steering team membership. No, I think You'll remember that we discussed Putting together really formalizing a group to To put together the agenda for each meeting what we left open was the membership of this group You'll recall that floor I Gave her opinion that the group should really ought to contain the the chair the vice chair and the clerk plus two others Otherwise I think that was the only oh and that there should be one member from each town I think those were really the only two Stipulations that I recall but At this point we can come up with First of all Agree that the the board officers the chair vice chair and clerk will continue on in this new formation and then select two others one from middle stacks and one from Berlin to join the crowd So first of all May I just ask you floor and you Jonas. I know Jonas You you expressed some misgivings about this last time, but I wonder if you would at floors and my If we get whatever the zoom equivalent of down on our knees is to ask that you continue on I will be very happy if you did. I will. Thank you. Thank you. That's wonderful. Thanks very much That's great news Amen Thank you, so Yes so now We would need a member from middle sex and a member from Berlin I'm not sure procedurally how you'd like to do this have Would anyone from middle sex like to that nominations I would I would nominate Jill Olson. You should be willing to serve. I would second that Very good. We have a we have a nomination in a second Jill I Will accept because I was looking for more meetings You won't be disappointed Okay Okay with Marilyn I didn't I don't want to take it away from her if she's just dying to do it. Oh You're muted Marilyn She appears to be moving in a vehicle Yeah, don't let's not talk about that. Ah I think I don't think she objective, but we lost her we lost you Marilyn. Yeah Yeah, happy to have you there we go. That's it. Yes. Okay. That's okay. If I ever heard one. Yeah Okay, I'm all in favor of Jill Olson as the middle sex representative on the agenda committee, please Click on your yes button board members Thank you, I'm not and and if you're opposed, of course click no it At the same time I see no no-no's so welcome Jill. We're very happy to have you now on this one Sadly, maybe a little bit easier For Berlin representative on this on this agenda group I I think you may be the only one who's Here tonight from Berlin Diane, um, which which I'm sorry about Oh Lisa would like to know who seconded that motion and I thought it was Jonas for Jill Olson, am I right Lisa? Okay? And I die and to be even I'm not as a Berlin resident I'm gonna die and to be the representative for Berlin Of course, you may floor Second I'll second it's Maryland Maryland seconds. Great. Okay. Very good um, any First of all Diane, I suppose we should get your consent before you we frog march you into this Yeah, that's fine. Thank you. We greatly appreciate your willingness to do this I'm all in favor of Diane Nicholas Fleming is the Berlin representative on the agenda committee Please say or please click yes or no if you're opposed And I see A sea of green Great, okay Um, very good. So we have the new agenda Um, here it's called a steering team um, the the purpose of it is to form the agenda for the board meetings and it will consist of the um, the Middlesex representative Jill Olson the Berlin representative Diane Nicholas Fleming the clerk Jonas Inovan fleet The vice chair florida smith and myself um So uh board committee schedules if you would kindly turn to page three of your packet Um, you will find those schedules there Um, the action Deborah if I'm not mistaken is Um, we would we would need a motion to approve those proposed changes Can we do that on block? If everyone is comfortable with them Certainly They can be amended of course So would anybody like to move the changes that are shown In the green column on page three of the agenda packet For finance Educational quality policy and negotiations Well Equality and policy and negotiations have no change. So that's that part is moot. It's finance capital and policy Are the actual changes I'm on the policy committee And I think I Didn't protest when I I thought the policy committee was going to meet on Tuesdays Come back The full board meeting so some of us could go to the other committee meetings But I may have been wrong Uh-huh It could be amended if you wish Yes, okay. Oh Sorry, um, I like to have the finance committee met tonight prior to the second board meeting of the month And I wonder if the committee had That arrangement yes So it could be the um to maintain uh the second Actually the second board meeting of the month. That's that's what's recommended Is are you asking kari if that should be changed or you're asking for agreement? I'm sorry The proposal is to to do what we did today So I I probably misstated it, but it should be the second Wednesday meeting Okay, it says second Wednesday. I know my my error Yeah, perfect. Okay. Okay. We still need a motion to approve these I'll make a motion to approve them Floor moves second I will second second Um, Jonas seconds. Sorry kari Fraction of a second too late Um Further discussion Hey, it's maryling. Can I uh Can ask a clarifying question Of course, and I'm sorry because I I'm not At the moment able to look at the packet But I will be able to in about 20 minutes But could you tell me what the times are For the policy committee that we're approving Before I vote so every Changing is changing the policy committee meeting to just Tuesday. That's what the green column says And the time would be 430 to 630 through June and then you Great, thank you Okay, other other questions or um Dorothy does that Does that fit? Yeah, good. Okay. I'm I'm I must have misread the chart Uh-huh. It's just the green. It's the group. It's the green column. That's what we're focusing on Then I put it somewhere where I can't see it quickly. So as long as we're not The wednesday one, I'm happy. Okay. Very good. Yeah All right, um, unless there are uh, there's other discussion to be had Let's go to a vote all in favor of approving the changes as Um as in the green column that maryling you can't see um Please click on your yes button And if you're opposed click on your no button And once again, I'm seeing all green Great. Okay. Thank you everyone. Um So, uh superintendent transition update I I sent around an email Yesterday that um That I hope you've had a chance to see um Containing bryan's draft entry plan um Am I are heads nodding or Okay, great great. Um, if you have any anything to um To suggest I would I mean, I don't think there's any problem With your because it's just in the realm of suggestion If you just communicate it directly to bryan If you if there's something in the plan that you think, you know, um You think ought to be changed or if there's something you'd like to suggest that he add to it. Um, just feel free Is my inclination? Um, everybody okay with that any problems with that? Okay, great um Next um Is the cv fiber letter of support? um, the original draft was on page four, but krista sent around a revised draft just that um the the template that was sent was Um, just struck me as a little bit rough around the edges And it could be you know, maybe a little bit um easier to understand if um A few changes were made cv fiber What I would propose to do is have the board vote On approving our That letter of support the one that was in krista's email of this morning and To um, and then I will I will sign it and off it will go Um, do we have a motion to approve the cv fiber letter of support for their grant? I can make a motion. This is lindy that we thank you lindy great Thank you um Second Floor seconds great. Thank you very much Um any discussion of it any questions about it? I'm I'm seeing shaking of heads Great, okay So all in favor of approving that draft for um for me to sign and to send off to the addresses Um in support of cv fiber Please click on your yes button and if you're opposed on your no button And once again, I haven't connected to the buttons today and I don't know why I Where to go? Oh I'm gonna do a thumbs up for us. Yeah, I'll take a thumbs up is good If you want to click on yes, you'll have to tell me what to look at because I have tried everything on here And I can't find it just click participants Dorothy click on the bottom participants and it'll come up. It's there. Thank you Oh, great. Okay Thank you very much Yeah, I keep learning new things about this about this setup Every time we do this Okay, so 3.5 teacher appreciation You'll recall that we Started a discussion of this last time It went into sort of budgetary territory or discussion of possible expense Which steven look Um Quite rightly pointed out we would need to be warned If such a decision were to be taken, but there was interest in in continuing a discussion So, um, I just want to make sure that we didn't choke it choke off that discussion purely um Diane, I Remember you you had an email with some interesting ideas. Would you like to just sort of go over that? Sure. Sure. So one of the um As I was thinking I was trying to think of what makes the most sense So we had joked or talked about trying to do a parade to teachers and the feasibility of really trying to do that it doesn't make sense. Um, and then the idea of um appearing as a surprise at a at one of the staff meetings might be a possibility of Of expressing our appreciation directly to teachers when they're in that And then I was also wondering about um, exploring If we did teacher signs, um Similar to what's been done for the seniors, but instead having it be about the teachers Um, you know designating. They're a hero You know, we could come up with some and then the ones for retiring teachers could be different so that it designates them and And so those were just ideas that had popped into my head as to what was potentially feasible and and again, I know we don't have a budget for this and And I'm not sure what even the expense would be of the signs But certainly if we wanted to create a rotation of going to different staff meetings over the next couple of weeks That would also be pretty, um Inexpensive and and doable as well. So those were just the ideas That had come to my head Thank you very much. Um any reactions from people? What do you think? I I support it. I I think that it would be good to show our our support and I I'm open to whatever the majority feels doing. I like Diane's options I think youth 32 knows how much those signs cost because they bought them for the seniors Could somebody tell us? Uh, steven may know or lori, um Do you know the amount of cost for the signs? For seniors, steven I don't I think that uh Amy was the one who ordered them. She might be here somewhere Um and could let us know approximate cost. Amy are you? I'm she said going to look it up right now so Not yet. So we'll have that information in a moment So I guess one suggestion for for time and doing it is that maybe we could designate If the board is interested designate a small group to look into the options and then present them to the board or You know just a way to move that to move it forward It's mostly I think for diane and i'm speaking for you diane. It's just finding interests right from your email Right and and yes, and so um, obviously if there was going to be an expenditure Yes, steven. It said we need to put it on the the next agenda as to whether or not that might be happening And then so the other question would be too is how long was the how long did it take to Get the signs produced um so that we can be sure that we at least take that to teachers lawns by the last week of school But I like your idea flora of just if there's a designated group that would like to explore it and come up with a Proposal that could be put on the next agenda does um Does the finance committee? um Floor your finance committee chair. So you've actually already um sort of indicated what you'd like to do which makes um I mean it sounds like it makes sense. Uh Kari do you have anything On this excuse me. I amy says that there are four dollars and 25 cents each And they were one of the two color sign Thank you Okay, let's see say how long it took and whether it was a local company or not No, but I don't think we asked her that Amy. Can you look at that or give us feedback on that please? I know she's here That's group. I am here. Can you hear me? Yes? um, so it was signed here, uh, which is uh, the rust family just down on town hill road in east Montpelier There are alumni family and um, it took us about a week Um, if she had told me she could run another set it would take about a week or week and a half Thanks, Amy Thanks, Amy. Um, Kari you're about to Actually don't have anything to add. I'm happy to support but um, Doesn't seem like the best use of our time to be brainstorming right now. Okay Um, so we'll just send this to an informal group then Um, did I understand that correctly that that just uh, a brainstorming group? Okay, very good All right, so um, if you are ready then to move on There's no objection. Let's go to um 4.1.1 superintendents COVID-19 update um And we can continue to move briskly if um, if you like Deborah don't feel you have to fill in time No, um, that's fine. And I've This was published last week And I assume you've had a chance to take a look at it We also have a leadership report and I wonder if we shouldn't reserve the time for principles to make comments um, but we've what I've stated in my report is um Just a quick highlight is that uh, we did receive approval from the secretary of education to amend our calendar That became a requirement after our last meeting to align with where we were We are currently examining our possibilities of offering in-person or remote ESY Slash summer school and we anticipate making a decision by the first of june The main issues are related to whether or not we can manage in person It had the required equipment to do so um We have an update in my report and I know steven during the leadership team report We was ready to give a further more descriptive update on our graduation plans Which I know our board would love to hear about Um, I included information in my report on the remote learning Work underway and also a link to a statewide compilation of continuity of learning plans That you can review to see what other schools are doing um And we talked a little bit in our last committee meeting about child care and after school programming Um, we do intend to offer child care and a community connections summer program As we've done in the past Plans for fall are unknown And we've I think this update Was is something we could address now or later when we talk about some of the finance committee areas But we have um We're just continuing to monitor all the changes that are occurring. Uh, the legislature is Drawing to a their work to a close and that will affect this year's end next year's plans and uh I think that my report summarized that quite thoroughly if you're all right. We can move on Very good. Thank you very much debba. Um before we do any any specific questions keeping in mind that will be addressing number of these issues when we get to the leadership team shortly Very good Then we're on the bid recommendation action 4.1.2 If you go to page nine of the packet, please To refresh your memory We will need a motion to approve Connor contracting for construction as it says here in the amount of two hundred thirty five thousand four hundred thirty seven dollars so moved floor moves second a second Chris seconds. Thank you very much. Is there a discussion of this? um Is there anything to be said about this? Anything further to be said than what we see in the memo Harry has a question. Oh, I'm sorry kari Yeah, um I have two questions one is um There's the second bullet point talks about we will know more when the remaining bids come in. Could you clarify what that means? and second Yeah, um, you could just briefly describe what these projects are and I have to ask What makes them important to do now? Sure I can send you kari the information that the board approved back in february which lists all the projects in detail This is not every project When you do bids you Some can be consolidated and then you also have to go to to various contractors this these Do constitute approved projects? That were approved by the board I'm not certain. I'll have every detail of each of them, but In specifically in rumney. This is the acoustics project and lori if you're there. I think you're there. You can correct me if I'm wrong We have a roof project in callus And u32 has a number of projects. I'm thinking this one was um The ceiling but they had a ceiling project of a the sidewalk bid is not yet in And they also had an electrical project. So let me see Edward that is the project at u32 for the kitchen. This was to help us bring it up to code Okay, so that was the ceiling and the in the electrical. Okay. Yes, and we're still waiting on us the sidewalk bid is coming in So these are all approved and I'd be more than happy to send the full board of a full set of the paperwork that Was used to approve them previously the question you raised about the second bullet point is that We anticipate that our some of these projects have come in under budget The first one the board approved came in over So what I'm stating here is that we'll know more when the remaining bids are received is is to exactly how we are Fitting within the budget funds that were set aside by the board We were also required to get a waiver because of Actually, no, we did have three bidders for this one But we have others coming up that will be coming before the board But we did not have three bidders and we have to wait for waivers on those Then have so So it just carried to add to that and we will get to this in the finance committee with your part of it too But there was a criteria that we used to be to decide on this projects In it. So there's a larger plan for them, but we you know, the projects that are taking place right now were priorities and that's That's why They mount and and how they how it was decided was in urgency and code Yeah Right and we did take a look at the fact that there were many other projects Some which we decided could wait a year, but we did make the based on safety Decisions so good, um other other questions comments If not Then let's go to a vote All in favor hit the green button. Yes Opposed the red button. No This is to approve counter contracting for construction as noted in the amount of two hundred thirty five thousand four hundred thirty seven and Seeing all green Thank you very much everyone Okay, um Next up Is ah the 4.1.3 net metering contract to take action on this I hope everyone will have had a chance to see the Debra's email that Linked to google docs with scott cameron's um privileged attorney client communications, which gives all the background um on this but The idea is for the board to um Naturally, I I don't have it in front of me. So Um if any of you do rather than have me garble it And then have to be corrected. I I can get one of you to do it Right the first time I was just going to say what the agreement was of the finance committee. I don't have the actual motion written down Can we go to floor? Of course. Yeah, thanks so they The the finance committee we we agree that the contract had been reviewed by both lawyers Is scott cameron and kingsbury's lawyer and that If we have it's going to be done for a limited relationship of two years and we agree on that So it's 18 months with the six months to To to finish the contract and what we decided as our recommendation was was that that it will end in two years And that this has been a This This has worked for us for in the past and we have saved 10 000 dollars per year At least and and it's something that the facilities committee The facilities committee. Sorry. That's what I always the finance committee recommends So I don't if you want to we all took we didn't take the time to look at the contract what we would be doing is is I read the counter but we we would be agreeing to let them go forward and finalize in and have the The chair and devra assigned the contract correct Correct, and then kari had some questions which I can review from the chat if you would like Or kari you can raise them I can address those questions. I've seen them chat Go ahead. Robbie. Okay. Uh, let's see kari's three questions one third two recs renewable energy credits those are Credits that are created by renewable generation We don't create those at kingsbury. It's complicated Some hydro plants do some don't Some solar projects do some don't sometimes are retained by the utility. Sometimes they're sold out of state There's an out there's a new england renewable energy credit market. They've been controversial in the past It's incredibly complicated subject. I'm sure you don't want to go into it The long the short of it is we don't create them and we don't sell them If you were to go with the solar project for instance There the recs would certainly be part of that you wouldn't get them the solar of the people who had the solar project would almost certainly sell them um There are no questions about that. I'll go on to the next point kari asked if there had been a review of the savings and the best and worst case scenario for the For the schools, I you know, I can't say obviously whether or not you for re-reviewed the savings I know that the during the five years we were in in a contract with u32. It was a little over $50,000 In nominal dollars The savings are a little more now because electricity prices have gone up and the value of the of the renewable energy increases when the value of the electricity increases um in terms of best and worst case scenario by recommendation to you and it would be that um We include in the net metering group um and and some board members have expressed an interest in this we include The berlin elementary Meter and the u32 meter. Those are probably the two highest consumption meters in the district That are in green mountain power territory um And we could allocate percentage of generation however we saw fit between those two meters that would give us a That would give us more It would just give us more flexibility and more more consumption that we could spread the use over if the use went down for instance, I I don't know how much has gone down recently because the schools have been closed, but I think that would be the best way to address that and um drawing a blank now on what the other question was The 10 is 10 of the savings from the net metering credits a standard deal same as last time and should we negotiate Right. Thank you. Um I talked to jocelyn who's my attorney and does a lot of net metering law and Typically with solar projects there. They're basically are very few hydro net metered projects um 10 yes 10 is typical and because of the complexity of net metering projects Especially the complexity of solar projects the rate you get from net metering with us. Uh, it was actually quite a bit I I didn't realize until I talked to jocelyn how much better of a deal it was than a than a solar deal but There are adders and subtractors and penalties if you keep the recs and and different things with solar deals um And those those affect what what the rate what the what those affect the amount the of um The value you get for your renewable generation And and so that affects you know, what's percentage of discount to the generators willing to provide But anyway, 10% is is right in the ballpark and no, I'm not interested in negotiating that Great. Thank you. I'm good Great. Thanks kari Um, and thank you robby any other um Yeah, we have the expert here Don't think so Um, so I'm not sure if you make the motion scott. I apologize. I haven't I haven't heard a motion yet The motion would be at floor sort of explained where the finance committee came out Um, what kind of emotion would get us moving to where we want to go? I would I would suggest that the board um A possible motion might be that the board would um Direct the superintendent and their counsel to finalize a contract with kingsbury hydroelectric for um maximum of two years and um I think that should be sufficient and then the details would be worked out by between our attorneys And then if you would call I guess authorize me to sign it on your behalf, of course Very good, um Lisa did you um first of all we need someone to actually make that motion floor make the motion Thank you very much second Um dorthy seconds um Okay, um, and so, um Further discussion Would you like everybody's Yeah, sorry rubby go ahead rubby describe the contract There's been some back and forth between the attorneys, but I can describe the contract as I understand it It's okay. Um Deborah is holding up her Only because we the board has received it in a separate email rubby. It's not that I don't want you to discuss it It's I think that they've had an ample opportunity to review it So would that be correct everyone feel that way? Okay. Yeah, um, we This was this was especially well documented. Um, I'm grateful for that um So, okay In that case all in favor of the motion Please click yes opposed click no I'm seeing all yeses No, noes Very good the motion carries So now we're uh at 4.2 leadership team um the leadership teams collected works begin on Page 12 of the packet in case you want to go there Deborah should I have you be master of ceremonies for Um for this segment Um, I know everybody's interested in graduation Um, yes. Well, I I think it would be great since we have most of our administrators here this evening We're anxious to go through down to the report and ask you to Hello, and make a comment or two. Um as as their names are listed alphabetically or their schools are listed alphabetically Well, um, if you wouldn't mind, I think that would be most helpful when I imagine everyone would appreciate that opportunity Well, I guess Aaron, um, I'm not certain if you're here at the moment friend Boynton If not, we'll go on to I know he was here earlier. Let me just double check Aaron. Well, his He appears to be here, but maybe not right on camera at the moment. We can go back to um Aaron later Meantime, I think the next would be callus. So cat, would you like to make a few comments? Um callus and I think this is probably true for most of our elementary schools We're starting to settle into some sense of a routine. Um, It It's funny though. It's not that it seems like every time we get used to a routine things change the guidance changes So we've got to adapt. Um, I think that our game is improving every day And this opportunity if you choose to see it in that way has allowed us to partner with families in ways I don't think we ever even imagined Um, that comes with some struggle sometimes, but it also Has been an amazing amazing, um chance to connect um And I know that you know, you can read it in the report but the elementary principals got together with steven from the high school This month and talked a little bit about The end of year traditions and rituals and how important they are I think the focus for all of us is to plan something that is both safe and special um, and I recently spoke with some of my sixth graders about this. We're a little disappointed Um to have things look a little bit different and I've encouraged them to really think about Focusing on what we can do rather than what we can't do. Um, because I think that is a little bit more productive all they care about is, um Will they get a sign like the u32 seniors and like hold on that's a little bit more special for the high school We'll probably get a sign don't tell anybody That's it from gala Thank you and erin is now back. Uh, he was a second ago. So let's see if we can have here go back to berlin. Okay Erin are you there? Great. Thank you. I heard you had some connection problems. Thanks for joining ironically. Yeah, ironically and honestly my screen froze right before we were supposed to Talk and I had to re log back in I guess so uh, yeah, I you know in terms of um, I was thinking about this whole administrative report and even though we have Different things sectioned out by school. There's so much that We're doing together as a team. Um as an as as an administrative team um, and uh, you know just ensuring that there's equity with a lot of this stuff, um And as we talk about what the end of the year is going to look like um, we've I think we've done a really great job as a as a team Making sure that there's some consistency in our communication to to families And despite and and kids and staff um, and even though we have you know different sizes of student population and different, uh um demographics and um Not everything is exactly the same with the way our schools are are We're trying to make things As smooth as possible for kids um and teachers and parents and uh, you know working together to Be clear and consistent. So um, that's a good thing. I mean specifically for berlin. We're we're doing well I think everyone settled into What this has become um, and if we go into next year and we have to be back in this place will be better Ready because we've done it. Um, and I think I kind of have been thinking about that that uh that quote, you know Necessity is the mother of invention or whatever You know, we've we've created so many in different Ways to do things because we've had to We've been you know forced to and it's really made us think Hard about how we are educating kiddos and even though it's not perfect and isn't the way it's supposed to be We're all doing a great job. I think working together to to make it work. So Those are my comments Thank you Gillian, I know that you're on the call. Can you hear us? I can I can't I haven't been able to have audio and video all afternoon So I'm not even going to try now uh I would echo what cat and erin Said is that lots of it's it's there's been some really exciting opportunities with this um, I've been incredibly impressed with the dodie staff in terms of responsiveness to families and I feel really good about the the comfort level that our families have In terms of letting us Know when they're feeling stressed And they need a break and what what supports they need in order to feel sort of ready to come back It's nice to have We have sort of similar models for our end of the year Celebrations, which I think is going to be good We've started our library book distribution Which I personally am having a ton of fun with because I realized it's actually less driving if I just am the bookmobile Instead of driving the books to u32. It's actually faster for me to just drive around town dispensing books, which is You know who can complain about that gig but we've also started conversations about thinking about next year and flexible groupings And how can we make sure what are we going to identify as really Key skills that we want to make sure that kids have at the beginning of each grade And how are we going to be flexible and nimble in filling any holes that we need to fill? And so don't he's a don't he's cruising along Thank you Alisha Yeah, I would echo a lot of what my colleagues have said. I feel like this has been an opportunity for the leadership team I think we meet every single day about something and plan and are on the same page. We never have that opportunity It's a blessing and a curse because it means we're in front of zoom a lot more But it also means we're on the same page, which is really helpful Um as far as East Montpellier goes my staff. Um, they're incredible They're they're continuing to be positive and upbeat and having that we can do this attitude I think the same goes for our families. I shared with you In the last week we got our last two families who didn't have internet access Up and running. Um, so they can all participate remotely, which is Huge. Um, it took a while to get there, but we're there now and that's a big celebration Um, we have some things that you know similar like we're trying to Stay the course and plan for next year and whatever that might look like. Um And also remember to take baby steps and really focus on the here and now We had our um continuous improvement plan meeting yesterday The final one and really thinking about focusing on social emotional learning and getting our kids back and ready Emotionally and and making sure to focus on that at the start of next year is going to be really important Whatever the start of next year looks like Um, and we have a celebration next Wednesday for our staff meeting We're having a virtual baby shower for one of our staff members who's about to have a baby So we're figuring out new and different ways to kind of make sense of this whole time Thank you Casey Thanks Um, I would echo a lot of what's been said. Um, I think that Each week we continue to learn as I wrote we continue to learn more things But they're they're also continue to be lots more things to figure out So I think we celebrate a lot of successes But we also recognize that you know parts of middle sex continue to have some pretty significant bandwidth access As we might some experience even in this meeting who knows So I think that we continue to support students and families as best we can and I think we learn Learn bits each week and we continue to work with that We're we're pretty well connected to to our students We have morning meetings. We reach out to them by phone We have other connections electronically for for many of them The last meeting that we had the next day was our first Staff car parade as I think almost all of our maybe all of our schools have done that now It was a huge success to see so many of our kids and families We're doing the second round of that this friday's for the middle sex two route. So we're looking forward to seeing more kids Um, I think in terms of faculty and staff they are doing great job um, we Each week we reflect we have uh unit team meetings and we have a weekly Check in with our para educators and we reflect on what's working. Well, what do we need to focus on? um I think each week there are less things that we we've learned more each week and there are less challenges And I think that's a real celebration that I think our leadership team has identified that Shifting away from a deficit model of what isn't working to what have we figured out and what is working for us It's really been important for the narrative of this time both for our district and for the state in the world. I suppose um And I think the only thing that that well, there's a lot of things weighing on us But thinking about next year the the multitude of options And how to not become overwhelmed with that, right? So we're thinking about what school could look like and how to Approach that in a reasonable way for kids Always thinking first about how to support our kids and then making sure it's reasonable for adults to work within those campaigns So there's a lot, but I think we've come a long way in two months of this Thank you And that leaves u32 steven So obviously can echo what all my colleagues have been saying about their staff I'm not that it's a competition, but I realize that the u32 staff is probably doing the greatest job of all of this but Um, but no to say I think all of our staffs are working really well together There's a lot of ideas that are being shared and so it's really nice. Um, the big news for u32 Is graduation but first They've started on the track and that's a really nice thing So our track is being worked on and we have two of the most beautiful weeks of weather, which is a really important thing For getting that track done. So we'll give you an update as that comes along a little bit later in this in the year But graduation so um, I really I showed you just in our report a quick piece What we're going to do is really two types of ceremonies. So the first one is going to be friday night at our Normal time for graduation. We're going to have a A ceremony that's going to include our speakers. Um, we're going to live stream it from the auditorium And so, um, it's going to be a very small number of people. So obviously 10 or less In there at any given time, but we have a couple of awards that we always give out during graduation So like the ga hagan award I'm we're going to do those and we're going to do those in the live stream and record it So if people want to see it later, we have to work out the time on that a little bit Mop kill your is doing a similar program that evening as well And so we're working on the time so that we don't overlap with them So if people want to see both they could uh, because we know we have families that are crossover and all that Um saturday and sunday is going to be the real thrill for all of this and that's going to be the drive through a diploma Time and so by ta group. We're going to have designated times for that ta group to Drive into the bus lane They will have all we can allow is the graduate to get out of the car. They will be able to Across the state going to set up with all kinds of actions and they will then be Get their diploma Socially distanced from any of the rest of us who are there And um and appropriately disinfected so that there is no problem with it And then they are going to be able to get their picture from a professional photographer Uh families will be able to take pictures from out of their cars We think we can manage this with two cars per family so that there can be more people there But no rvs limos black beds, you know any of those kinds of things So alicia you're gonna have to cut it down a little bit for your crowd um, but the um, but the I think as a whole We're going to be able to get everybody through there in the span of about 11 hours So six hours on one day and five hours on the other If everybody will stick to their time a lot of time will stage people down in the civic center And then send them up the hill so that we don't have any traffic blocking Gallison hill, but we'll be able to um send people as appropriate in their Our increments and so we'll have ta's there We think we can allow our teachers to be in the parking lot in their cars So we're going to have a shift of those people board members. We're going to invite you as well to It's been different in the past. You've handed diplomas to kids You can't do that this year, but we'll figure out something for you guys to be involved um, but we're going to we've got to maintain a lot of health and safety uh requirements, but um We did get the uh, we got dan france at the we to approve this method of uh, of delivering And a lot of schools throughout the state are doing something similar and so we think that um, we've got a good plan There's a lot of details. And so of course, I leave that up to other people to do which would be amy melina and lisa la plant Um our and uh, heather clark warner are three adults, but we've got kids involved and we've got some parents We we've touched base with as well Um, we can't duplicate a regular, uh graduation You know, we just can't do it But we can do some of the important parts and we can certainly make sure that everyone Has an opportunity to walk across the stage, which I think is one of those big Moments of I I've done this. I've got my diploma and so we'll make that as special as we can make it And I think it's a good plan and uh, and so We're hopeful the full set of details will be out by friday But this i'm gonna i'm gonna release an email here in just a few minutes I wanted to tell you first as a board in case there were any questions And then I'll release this to all the seniors and their family. So they'll see a few more details for all of it Wonderful. Thank you very much, steven. Um, this is awesome as a as a senior mom. Let me just say So awesome. Thank you Thank you. Thank you. There are your comments. Um, any others questions? I was just curious the number totally 119 graduates And the date the question was what is the date? It's june 12. Oh june 12 is the um, is the friday night Ceremony and then the 13th and the 14th. So the saturday will be from 10 to four I think and then the sunday will be uh, noon to five. I may have that a little off, but um Suffice to say it starts at 10 o'clock on saturday and noon on sunday Wonderful. Um, any other uh, that that was that was very artfully done with the dramatic climax at the end With great stuff leading up to it too So, uh, any other questions for the leadership team? I just wanted to point out that we have a section at the end about our planning and where we are in esy And summer school. So I'd like to offer kelly And origin a moment to share on the future plans for that's that's great. Yes, please Thank you Kelly you want that now? Yeah Yeah, kelly, why don't you start and then i'll check on Okay, so there is the committee of folks working. Um, as you saw in the report Including on caro who tends to court usually overseas our summer program our school psychologist A school nurse There's just a crew of us starting to figure out and try to get our heads wrapped around Whether or not we can safely provide in-person summer pro esy for students who are eligible um in the last week all of the special educators have been reaching out to families to get more of a sense and a gauge of Whether they would be interested in sending their students for in-person learning for the summer And um, I've those are all due back to me tomorrow But what the the ones that i've seen so far they're Most parents the majority of the parents at this point are leaning towards continuing with remote learning Just not comfortable yet with what's happening in the world to start sending their kids Into school. Um, there are some that would prefer the in-person so If we can figure out all of the safety and health guidelines and get all of the appropriate equipment needed I anticipate we'll have some Bit of a hybrid model where we might have a you know, very small groups of kids that come in at a time Um, but that's still a big if right. We have a lot a lot of details to figure out still But that's all in motion and I anticipate as you heard Deborah say earlier um The plan and the hope is that by june 1st we'll be able to make a you know more formal decision around what that's going to look like for students Uh, I'll just tack on to that as well. I think that um, as you know last year we offered our first ever project based summer school for high school kids and Learned so much and we're so excited about being able to build on that first experience Um, that's going to be a little bit on hold for this year. What we are able to do is offer some Programming for kids particularly in financial literacy students who are interested in In working toward proficiency at the graduation level for financial lit So that is an action. There's been a An opportunity for students to indicate interest in doing that and a number of students have So we're working on that We're also there have been just some super super preliminary conversations about How and if we could use any summer learning opportunities remotely to support students Who might still be in progress? Um at the end of this year In terms of the work that they're doing there have been uh only a few very preliminary conversations about that leveraging opportunities for For some of our federal funds to be able to support kids that way I think that earlier in the reports Gillian used the words flexible and nimble I feel like I use those adjectives all the time right now as well just knowing that In terms of our guiding principles, we've really said we want to be responsive and humane and realistic and so Anything that we're doing right now either to wrap up or to look ahead next to next year is being guided by those principles Thank you Jen. Thank you Kelly Um, and thank you Deborah Are there any further questions from the board for anyone if there aren't Then I would suggest that we let's just take five and um do a quick recharge And come back at seven twelve at least that would be five minutes from now according to my computer clock um Any objections to doing that? Then I think we have a quorum returned very good so, um Here we begin 4.3 the finance committee section Floor would you like to take the lead on this? Please sure So the finance One minute So we we had a a short Agenda today, but I'm just going to go over I made a little list So I wouldn't take too much time. So the highlights for today First we we're doing the quarterly financial reports for those of you that have just joined the board now And then we're doing those in october january april and june like Deborah said in her memo. I added those to our count the only changes I added those to our calendar because they were not in our board calendar Uh And at this point we can decide that we're going to wait for more a more comprehensive Recondition when we have more information from the state to decide how we're gonna How we're gonna proceed in the past we had Move some of that money to capital and and decide how we use it But we're not going to do that until we know more one thing that we Talked about was to add to this to this line besides waiting that we as a board should take a look at the efficiency study Both phase one phase two that we have from march literally five years ago march 25th 2015 and just Refresh and look at it. We talked about it informally and I would like to hear from the board as a whole if they're interested In in doing that. I think it will help us with with planning the after that We talked about Let's see early retirement So we are going to discuss that as a as a as a board. We did had a Pretty good a conversation on What were the risks? What was what we were aiming? to to save And Do you want me to go? I'm I said, do are you okay waiting until we have that conversation as a as a board? Or do you want me to go over the numbers? I think that if you wanted to talk about that in particular Perhaps we should just say that the finance committee moved to support the administration's recommendation and we recommend to this Full board the early retirement program That was presented. So would that make sense? Just as a yeah, yeah, we recommended that we move ahead with you guys planning and But we wouldn't make that a decision for the entire board. That's our recommendation and we will talk about it as a as a full board right, so right And then moving Right along. We talked about the summer meal Provision the board again, even though it is it was brought up to our attention that it's an $1,800 shortfall per day We know We know that we couldn't be do everybody was in In agreement that we couldn't be there's nothing more important that we can be doing right now in supporting that So we are recommending that they go ahead and look At what this will look like Through the through the summer in coordination with the calendar of community connections so that we're able to Provide the meals for the kids This operation is moving to East Montpelier a summer so that You can continue the work they need to get in in their kitchen to bring in the kitchen up to code again Yeah, I hope it's career And then last but not a These approved we we recommend the annual if you had a chance to look at the questionnaire That's something that we do every year and we made that recommendation as a as a board the School management junior as everybody has to look through that We table the energy project consultant just because we don't have candidates yet and we haven't had a chance to really Have a conversation with bill 4 to and include him in In that conversation so we table 4.1 and then in that mirroring We just had that conversation and the and the board recommended You you were all part of that conversation last I think that that was that was sick because I gave you a room on that before Any questions? Thank you very much Yeah, we will Some of some of these items will be addressing individually. So We could maybe tackle questions at that point. Does that sound all right? Great. Um, so, uh, 4.3.1 budget information. Um, is there anything Different in that page 15 from the last time we looked at it two weeks ago It's basically the same okay, so it's essentially to refresh memories And to to keep in mind what the what at least appears to be our situation given that everything is changing Quite unpredictably 4.3.2 if there's nothing further on budget information Um proposal for early retirement as floor was was mentioning if you go to page 20 of your packet um beginning on page 20 is uh is a lengthy memo and what um what we're looking for if If I am not mistaken is a Motion So if you go to page 22 under next steps um There are three recommendations And would these need to be three separate motions or they could be combined. They could be combined um Is uh, is anyone Interested in combining those motions formally I will move that we Approve the three recommendations from the finance committee on page 22 of the packet Thank you. Jonas. Do we have a second second it diane diane seconds. Thank you. Um Lisa, uh, you know where we are and what uh, Jonas referred to the three recommendations. You see what those are Yes, thank you Okay, um, maybe we should read them out just to make sure that in case somebody who doesn't have the packet is watching Will know precisely what we're saying Jonas. Would you mind reading it all not at all the The board would uh make and the board would authorize a timetable for applications And offer to eligible staff no later than june 20th 2020 with a deadline of september 15th 2020 The board would authorize the parameters including qualifications A combination of age plus years of service 15 or more equals 70 Or more for all contractual staff who meet this criteria And authorizing the maximum number of slots available 28 professional and related staff 27 educational support and related staff The total eligible would be 55 employees Wonderful, thank you very much And um, so we have you moving. Um, diane seconding discretion Stephen So I'll take the stance I always take on early retirement. I don't think we can afford to do this particular Um, Stephen, we'd even know we even if the position it looks like the position. Yep Still can't hear me I Can you hear me now? Yes, so, um, I strenuously Oppose early retirement option Um, it in unless someone can convince me it's going to save us money. It's going to cost us money It's not going to save us money in the near term And it's in the near term. We need to save money I've I've never seen an early retirement program that saved money I can address that if you would like someone from the committee if they prefer Do you like? No, you should you should address that because we had a lengthy conversation about it, Stephen so the The thinking here is that um, there will be we We're looking for opportunities to In the future The fact that we will likely have to make reduction in force in this coming year And we had a long discussion about the cost benefit of the early retirement plan and the savings We felt it would be a humane way to reduce our staff understanding. We will need to do that And as opposed to having to reduce our leased staff We know that from conversations that we've had with our principals that There are some staff members who would likely take advantage of this And that with the retirement of a number of individuals We would be able to reduce those positions in other words through attrition not rehire them We came up with a scenario one scenario for savings Where if we if 22 people which is 40 of the total were to retire And four and positions were not filled. We would estimate 227,000 savings in f y 21 22 Uh, and again, this is all this program is for 21 22 for budget planning for ahead for next year Uh, 22 23 132,000 status quo for 23 24 and then in 24 25 An additional 211,000. So overall it's about over a half a million dollars and savings with just four positions unfilled So if i'm oh uh dianne, please I I'm kind of torn. I understand exactly why this this makes sense and it's a natural attrition But I also think that in this time and age where there's so many changing factors Is it a wise decision in the long run for us to get rid of not rid of that isn't what I'm not trying to say that That's what we're trying to do, but is it wise for us to encourage our most experienced Experienced teachers to be leaving when we actually might need the guidance of that as this changing landscape happens So I get it. We're going to end up with needing some cuts. I just wonder if the cuts are in the right spot So we did look at those individually by And the principles feel that based upon who would be eligible that It would not be a significant challenge for them and we can ask I know steven made a comment or two in the finance committee and we could invite him back to do so Also about half of the number of people are professional and licensed professional staff and the other half are esp Our support staff So with that that was what comprises the table of 55 people So we felt that again Looking for a humane way to reduce the staff in the future that this was A better approach than riffing. We had a conversation about I think it was scott who shared some research That pointed out that when you do a major cut in your professionals or and and all of your staff that it has a Very negative Result in morale and and this was some research you had said from the great depression. Is that right stuff? No, the great recession Just very recently. No, quite all right Okay, sorry But I would offer I know steven had made some comments if you're still online steven Could you make a comment or two? Yes, there you are yeah, so So diane, I really appreciate That consideration it was the same thing Chris mcvay brought up in the Meeting as well is that you know lose people who we can't afford to lose At this time. I think that when I look at you 32, I think we'll barely get 40 percent if we do get Sorry So I think that We will have More in our support staff and those are positions that we would be looking at anyway in terms of reducing Then we would from our teaching staff And so I think it when when I look at you 32, I think You know, I can be skeptical As steven look about what happens with the staff because I've seen some in the past But I think that this one makes some sense at this point in time Scott you're you're muted scott Chris, I'm sorry. Thank you You're muted again. Chris go ahead. Okay. Go ahead. So, um I see that there's there's a Division between professional and related staff and educational support and related staff Is that a hard Allocation of positions so that there would be no more than 28 positions available for professional and related staff That would be eligible for this Yes, it's on the formula that's being recommended 28 Support Okay I made I made the point at the finance committee that There is not even with the numbers that are being provided That it's basically less than 1% savings on a 30 million dollar budget Which is actually a little less than what our actually our actual budget is Um, and I am just not clear that losing the experience Uh teachers That we will or administrators because this applies to any contractual staff administrative staff as well Um, it just doesn't seem like a great enough savings to me So I was neutral on this. I just um Yeah Yeah, I'm torn. I just I don't I don't see a great upside in terms of savings on this program Thank you others. Um I say floor I let uh lindy go first because I had my chance and then I'll go back if lindy Thank you. Go ahead lindy Um Those numbers seem really high when we've had it in the past. I don't remember it being that many that was it was offered to and I also um I'm doubtful that The p that people aren't replaced that will say we're going to save positions But it doesn't happen And I've seen that in the past and I'm not a real fan of this because I think of a couple people who are retiring this year Who certainly I feel could have Did deserve some sort of bonus for all the work they put into the U32 community And I I just I really have problems with the early retirement system And what chris just pointed out when he does a percentage financially first the numbers sound big but I'm not a real fan Work your door first if you want then I can Why not floor? So what what we talked we I think we were all came in into the meeting in the financial if financial meeting is skeptical You know with the questions, you know, what are the risks? What are they? Does it make sense to have so many? Why aren't we not capping it? And and at the end I think at least what convinced me because I also come from the same experience that Lindy came that it has never really saved us that much that much money Does it make sense? But what was explained to to me is what I put there that lori had said to us that the projected savings when you started Look at it Year by year it looks like we are going to save that Money that is not just uh, that is not just a wash Because those numbers we did not have those numbers with us And then the other thing is that it seems that for a while from my student administrators since Majority of Is would give them a tool to be able to address the budget issues that we're going to have But we did agree or at least I feel really strong that this should not be the only saving mechanism and that's sort of my interest being able to revisit the Deficiency studies too. So I think both go hand in hand, you know keeping in mind student outcomes First but understanding that we have People is the majority of our of our budget. So how do we do this? I don't know what the right word is humanly humanly or humanly And I think that you know, I think we are always people would always question whether we could actually follow through with A reduction and I I don't you know, I can't see through the future. I don't have a crystal ball, but the projections for next year are quite dire For planning into the future for budgeting. So The leadership team was fully supportive of this proposal because they liked the Many of the points that floor made they liked the idea of having the flexibility to use this as a tool um, they also Agreed that it would be Again as mentioned before an opportunity to make some decisions that could result in a reduced Staff but do so without the pain of a reduction in force Decision, which as we all know is really challenging and it has long-term effects That The one thing that I'm seeing as an upside Especially in terms of planning around this is the due date of september of 2020 so that It's before we're doing the budget because I think then we would see whether or not We're seeing any of the responses that we're anticipating. We might see Because I hear what you're saying in terms of that humane way I just worry about the timing of it But if we're doing it in early september Then we're going to know if that's where we're saving or not And then it impacts the the ripple toward other potential cuts Although in september we're also not going to I don't believe we'll really know yet what our um projections are Well, we'll we'll have um, I'm not certain with the legislature will do they may make some decisions by the end of the year But we don't know for certain Scott Jonas Jonas Yes, so a few A few questions. Um, if we if we don't do this will we have to riff staff? Is this a is this is a trade-off? And if we do this will we end up having to riff staff anyway? Is there a chance that we would have to do that? And if we didn't do an early retirement plan and simply riff staff, would we recognize significantly more savings? We would have to riff more staff if we did it without this program because of the relative variation in cost between a brand new lower seniority employee versus a long-term employee Um that we we know that for for sure you could also do some by attrition But if there was no one who left that would not work I think that the question about the numbers is we'll know in september How many people are going to proceed with it and that can inform budgeting and other decisions you may make About reductions or other savings? um Diane before I come to you make sure that others have had a chance Is there anybody else who? um Jill merlin um Who am I missing dial? um Okay, so it appears that nobody else who hasn't yet spoken wishes to speak so diane Yeah, and I apologize. I don't want to hog it But I guess one thing you said debba that really concerns me And I don't want this message going out from this board meeting is that we have a plan on riffing staff Um, I think we don't know yet what that looks like. I absolutely understand the dire nature of what we're having projected But I do not want it being reported out of this board meeting that we have an understanding that our staff are going to be rift Because I as a board member we haven't even begun that fight um for what we need for our Our um schools and for our staff. So that's it. I won't talk anymore. I promise All right, and I don't I'm not saying that that's a decision the board will make but by having this As one of your strategies you'll it will make it easier in the event reduce your staff in And I I can't predict what next year's budget planning will either. I don't know what Was going to be asked of us. Um, I think we've all read the news We know that there's not just the dire predictions, but some very specific recommendations are being that are being floated from the governor's office possibly re-voting but Coming year and the comments about how it will be multiple years before The revenue shortfall is made up in the ed fund. So, um I guess making an educated assumption About the fact that we will need to reduce the budget Is the reason why this has been brought forward, but certainly by no means would I ever say on your behalf That the board plans to reduce the staff next year But 75 of your budget is staff So it's it was it would be something you'd have to consider at a future time Hey, I Steven and chris have both indicated their desire to say something but um, if there's anybody else who hasn't yet spoken Um, you go first Otherwise, steven and then chris My internet is too bad. I don't think you guys will be able to I I I can hear you you can hear me. Okay. Yeah Great It's all yours. Um Yeah, I don't I don't feel comfortable um Voting to remove staff on just a proposal and um, I feel like we need to get further along in this before we make decisions about cutting positions Yeah, that's not that's not what we're doing. No, is this Okay, so this wouldn't be if we voted tonight It wouldn't be Um set in stone. Could we revise it if things seem to be improving quicker? Well, here's what it would be It would be that the retirement program would be in place But the decision as to whether you replace people Is yours to make in for the coming year is yours to make when the budget is prepared next fall Um, so I'm really glad you pointed that out because if that's I'm sorry if that wasn't clear But we talked about how once we knew the numbers who might retire That the leadership team review the final list and based upon your goals and targets for the budget They would make recommendations to you about how um budget how Many positions might not be refilled and or you know, and again, that would be yours to make and it's a future decision Not a decision tonight Okay, um, thank you very much. Uh before we go to steven anybody else who hasn't yet spoken Okay, steven. Oh joe joe. I'm so sorry steven That's okay. Hi everybody. I just had a I'm wrestling with this I just had a question which is debor when you say the leadership team. I'm just does that mean the You and lori does that mean you and lori and the principles? I just wanted to understand who we're talking about All of us all the principles Okay, until office team all the central office team And brian olkowski and I forgot to mention that we talked about that in the finance committee We had a meeting and brian joined us And he okay, he also favored this proposal You're in you know, that's very yeah, that's helpful. Thank you No problem Okay, so I think finally steven so I appreciate and understand that it represents a humane way If if if we need to reduce staff We suspect we need to reduce staff and in order To give us the option to reduce staff When we begin developing the budgets We potentially so i'm looking if 50 percent accept the offer We're paying 50 of the salary for 22 people for three years No matter what decision we make if we refill those positions And I know it's frequently mentioned that they can be refilled with less experienced staff And and that will likely happen a little bit But if you look at the hiring practices Across our supervisory union our district whatever we're called now We typically hire The most qualified people that we can get we typically hire People with a lot of experience so we don't save money And my concern is we're investing 50 percent of salary and one year health insurance in x number of people To give us flexibility in the future that we may or may not need And that we may or may not hire people back for And for me it's too much of a financial investment for the flexibility everyone can disagree It's okay. I always qualify my statements. I can be the only no, but I've heard nothing to convince me otherwise Just wanted to make a clarifying point. May I stop? Yes, Debra You talked about 50% of salary over three years. It's not 50% each year. It's 50% spread over three years So it's a third each year Okay, that's um, it's I hope that was clear that was spelled out on on page 21 of your memo and Stephen i'm not trying to disagree or or uh, I just wanted to make it clear because it made it It was a little unclear the way you said it and I wasn't sure if you were aware But that's a one time 50% payments spread over three years Okay Okay, um, thank you and chris Um, so two points once, um, I think that once we offer this and people accept it We're bound We cannot rescind the offer that was made Would be my understanding. So if come september There's a fourth stimulus package that Sends money out to municipalities like ourselves and bills budget Deficits, we're not undoing we cannot undo this offer You make an offer teacher accepts it We're bound we're bound by it The savings that have been explained only come from not filling positions not from rehires Not from the rehires of the positions We are feelings is what I understood that the savings is going to come from Keeping positions vacant not by the individuals who are being hired back into the positions um, so You know, I think again, I'm just not I don't see great benefit to this program and I see greater loss in terms of talent Deborah So so I think you know your statement about the the loss of talent Um, I think we've we've tried to address that before There are 57 of our teaching staff that are at the upper levels of the salary schedule So with looking at this smaller number of About half of this total And anticipating that not all of them would take it and the fact that they're spread over the entire district As opposed to a single school In addition to that the comments that were made by the administration administrators earlier that they feel that this would be you know You know, it would provide them with a tool and an opportunity to make adjustments if needed in the staffing um, you know, I I do agree that Until you know the individuals and their total salaries and benefit it's impossible to predict the actual costs or benefit, excuse me Savings But what we did was to take a look at the entire group of 55 people and averaged out what the savings were Uh, but you you're correct. It could if it's you know, there's a range of people in the upper levels as well um, this year we have hired um, gosh, I don't know that's been We haven't hired anyone at the top of the scale Uh, and I'm guessing that We have hired people between the first and first half the top 50 percent And recently a number at the very beginning of our scale In terms of teachers So I don't know your past experience with that and you're right chris. We are looking for the most qualified candidate But that's the I don't have the statistics with me, but I could say for sure that it's Not been at the top of their teacher scale. Uh, it's been within the lower half of the scale. So Okay, I see flor has her hand up I'm wondering if lori could explain what is the difference Between what we used to do and how we're doing it now because I think that at least for for lindy Stephen and me we have done it in the past and it was not always You know, it didn't save money So I think there's a little bit of confusion of why this is different from before Besides the humanely gave it a step. So Having, you know, the humanely way of getting giving us options Okay, um, so when this had been offered really Um over the a lot of years This option was given to people and primarily the people that were on the list had a bachelor's degree And for this particular list, most of the people are as deba mentioned at the very top of the scale So that's where the savings would come because you wouldn't necessarily hire everybody at the highest paid Sell on the teacher grid And then the same goes for the esp Most of the people that are eligible to retire are at the top of the scale If you think about it, it makes sense because the scale goes to 15 years of experience plus So that's why um, there'll be a greater savings over time because you would chances are you're going to hire somebody at the middle of the grid On average and we have been doing that. So I used actual information to calculate these averages and I guess Does that answer your question floor? Yeah, and it's still a little confusing I was looking about what what is the difference between Ben and now and it sounds like you're saying is the same way that we did it before before Right. So when we were hired, we were having people retire before at let's just say a $50,000 salary And we were hiring people at a $50,000 salary. So it would cost you more Right now a lot of the people on the list are at the $74,000 salary So when we go to fill those positions on average, it's currently been on average about $55,000 salary Thanks Lindy, I couldn't find my cursor because I've got two screens on Um What's confusing me is it used to be we threw a net out If somebody was interested, they did it. It wasn't it's sounding almost like you guys have named names to these 28 and 27 people and the other part Only because they've fallen to this category of 15 to make that 70 number 15 years of experience that they're identifiable But not shared with the board or you know, just by by individual Administrator where they might fall So it isn't it's a confidential list. Excuse me for interrupting. Lindy. I'm sorry that um The other part, I mean, this is way more than we've ever done because it seems like when it happened it'd be school by school And it might be one or two people um I'm also I'm still not comfortable with it at all because I I don't think it will be attrition We're also I feel rushing as to whether or not what chris was pointing out Another package comes in or things aren't as dire as we're seeing In order to give people 90 days, which All I can say is if you're already thinking about retiring and you hear now I get This money for three years Okay, I'll do it now. Um I won't need 90 days because I was already on the fence about whether or not to retire So I I'm feeling like there's not a big this June 1st So they have till september 15th. We won't well, we'll start but our real budgeting stuff Doesn't get pretty exciting until the october november ish time So i'm not feeling this huge push for the 90 days and getting this and saying yes and being Signed on to it. So it's it's not something I'm going to support Hey, lori Um, just wanted to let you know that the retirement office is working off site currently So it has taken some of our staff who are retiring this year Weeks and even a month or more for them to return their calls So I think that was why the 90 day recommendation came to pass because it's really difficult for employees to contact the retirement office And to get the financial questions answered Okay, um, I think we should probably move to a vote at this point. Um, just to Again, I hope I'm not garbling this but if I understand the arguments in favor Are primarily um based on the assumption that we're going to get hammered And that if we're going to be losing people, um Then we should try to balance it rather than Get rather than lose, you know, the younger cohort of our staff um, the arguments against are that Doubt that it will save money and um concern that we will lose some of our most experienced people Um, that's at least what I've been registering Um, so are you ready for a vote? Okay, uh, all in favor click yes all opposed click no Okay I see, um I see Okay, let me let me just run through and make sure I've got this straight I have Myself as a yes Chris as a no Jill as a yes um Diane as a yes dorthy as a yes Jial as a no Jonas as a yes kari as a yes Lindy as a no Marilyn as a yes um Stephen look as a no And that's all I've got it looks as though the yeses have it um Did anybody count better than I did those? I I got as a majority of yes as well Okay All right, so the motion carries Thank you everyone greatest question. Oh, sorry Should I put in the video how many people voted yes and how many voted no? Don't usually do you yes, or you do yes you say who voted yes and who voted no I'm just saying how many Yes So let me uh, if I count the yeses Tell me if I'm wrong. I wrote down Yeah, that's what I got So so you can say yes, certainly you say however you'd like but seven yeses and four noes is what we can all aid I believe just that great. Yeah, that looks right Okay, thank you very much and thanks for that. Um clarification Lisa Wait, sorry. I'm sorry. My dogs are being crazy right now. What was what were the numbers? I'm happy that it's not just my children. How did Dorothy vote? Yes, Dorothy voted yes, and I have eight yeses Well, if you want to go back and look again, there might still be up here unless they cleared off I tried to write them down as you were saying No Jonas is correct. It's eight yeses eight yeses and three noes No And three noes three noes That was four I thought it was four as well. Uh, yeah, steven look was a no as well. So it was four noes Okay, so Lisa, did you hear us? Thank you stick eight yeses four noes and I apologize for the wrong number before All right. Thank you Thanks very much everyone. All right. So, um annual fiscal management questionnaire Floor mentioned this as well page 24 of your packet We need a motion to Approve this and I will if I remember correctly, I will sign off on this Um, correct me if I'm wrong Scott, I think Dorothy has had her hand up for a little while. Oh my goodness. Thank you, child. Dorothy Uh, apologies You're you're muted Dorothy. Let me see if I can It was a mistake I wasn't waiting for attention Okay, I wasn't waiting to speak maybe for attention Okay Thanks Um, thank you child too. I everybody please help me out if I miss someone. It's not intentional at all um The fiscal management questionnaire, uh, I would welcome a motion Floor is moving that the board approve the annual fiscal management questionnaire As um, you see it on page 24 and 25 and chris seconds. Thank you. Um, any discussion? Sorry Does anybody want to say anything? If not, we can go straight to a vote Uh, all in favor, please click your yes button opposed your no button and Looks like all all yeses Thank you very much. Great. Okay Next um Summer meal provision page 26 there is um Okay, so The action here is Leading question Or did you want to summarize it or would you like me to? Yeah, we The the motion really is to authorize them to to go ahead in the planning for the summer Meals, uh, East Montpelier to serve our district For in coordination with the community connections calendar Excellent Um, so, uh, are you making that motion floor? Sure Great a second Oh second Jail seconds. Thank you. All right. Uh, discretion. I'm sorry floor. Can you repeat the motion? And Sure, it's to give I mean I didn't write it. I didn't write it down and we do have a motion that Because I was running the meeting that Tiffany wrote but is to authorize The administration to proceed in the planning for summer meal In coordination with the community connections calendar to take place at East Montpelier for the duration of the summer Sorry, would you say about East Montpelier? Location will be at East Montpelier Okay, thanks Great. Thanks. Um discretion Lindy I just have a question about During the school time. It's been a door to door And maybe that part isn't planned yet, but I was curious in the summer. It's not generally a door to door distribution We have we're certain. Well, first of all Thank you for that question the first Point to make is that typically in the summer we've been offering 200 meals per day? Now we're offering 1400 meals per day And we're going to be surveying parents to see if they are in need of or would desire additional or continuing meals in the summer And if they require transportation or if they can pick up So we'll we'll work out those details after we receive their feedback So we don't know yet, but the question has been raised and we hope to get further clarity So for example, if we only are asked to prepare 800 meals, we'll prepare for the staff to do that and Food, etc. So we'll we'll follow the the numbers of people who request the support And we talked in the meeting about the finance meeting about how the aoe is not requiring this But we do have the capacity and we feel that it's a very important Service to provide is especially in these challenging times when folks are So many more people have been seeking Food supports from the school Kari has his hand up Scott I'll just take it. I just want to take this opportunity to Really appreciate the staff. It sounds like they've been just doing amazing work Providing 13 to 1400 meals per week And as Debra says with the Vermont food bank is reporting 100 increase In demand of their services and it just seems so important that we're doing this and that Whether or not we approve this I hope we will I think we might think about it as a board Communicating this a little more to the community because I'm not I'm not sure that everyone is aware of all the good work that we're doing now And hopefully into the summer Thank you, and I second that and thanks so much to all of our staff Jody Emerson, Michelle Sepka and so many support staff and All of our food service workers have been working every day and we have been working at about 1400 per day Not for a week. I'm trying to be sure you're aware. That's what we've been doing That's great. Stephen I appreciate Similar to what Kari said all the good work. I just don't understand. I have no clue what I'm voting on So we have in the past through our community connections program. We've been running We've run a child care type of program and we plan to do that this summer For four weeks in the month of july We would like to offer meals to our families In coinciding with a particular time period Because we will have the staff in place to to prepare and deliver and or offer for pickup and We don't have the all the details because we're still waiting. We will be waiting for responses from parents and also Final information about costs There may be more cares money that can be applied to this But we feel that it's you know based upon our current circumstance It's it's a very worthy cause and we'd like to Continue to provide it when during those periods of the summer there will be about Five to six weeks of time when we will not be providing the service and that will be you know We're going to be working closely with hunger free per month And other providers to ensure that that gap is we attempt to make up that gap of time So i'm understanding the motion is that we continue the current Program of providing food to the families in the district through The end of july or is In conjunction with the community connections program, which will be for the month of july All right, that gives me a better idea. Thank you. Thank you for asking We did have a longer discussion about it and had to make it to sit made it clear this time. Sorry, lindy Yeah, lindy, um well I just wanted clarification because it's sound. I thought the motion was Just to continue planning The floor is not in Not to have a program. I'm not saying we shouldn't have a program But the motion was to continue planning in the event we have a program I when when we talk in the finance community is that we didn't want to deploy resources and and people's efforts into into this So if you know, definitely if I was if I understood this right from devra and And lory and from the documents we got if it's like, you know, really crazy, we would definitely come back This is not that the last time that this conversation is Happening at the board level, but this also rises them to move ahead because there's so many unknowns Yet, but that is at least a heads up that the board is interested in providing this service to our community and I will imagine we would all want to support that And bring back more detailed information to the next meeting We hope to have the details worked out by that time, but we would want to invest our At chris So just to address lindy's Concerns, I think the motion is for planning and funding. So they're linked, you know, is my impression. So We're talking about funding The the ongoing food program Is that right? I believe that what we're saying is finding ways to make this possible giving them the Opportunity to go out and look at how do we make this what we're doing right now make it happen through the summer And when they have more information and we have a plan because there's a lot of unknowns so we can use The carers money. There's a lot of options. They will come back to us, but we're basically saying how can we The way I see is how can we as a board make this happen through the summer? Please do some planning Okay, so we're not talking about funding then we're just talking about Directing the administration to go out and do planning as to how it can be funded and if need be come back to us for funding Well, we know that there's not an alternative way of funding. So how do we make this happen? What would we need to make this happen? What kind of money? Well, why don't we ask lisa to read back the motion as it is Okay, also, I didn't get a second So I've gotten a lot of the discussion, but I didn't get who seconded it But anyway, the motion was that floor moved to authorize the administration To proceed in the planning of the summer meals program In coordination with the community connections program calendar with the location in ismaquillar Great, um, and I no longer remember who seconded it. Um, would someone like to step exposed fact shia. Thank you. Thank you Good So, um, would you like to move to a vote then? All right, all in favor And lisa would you how about would you mind one more time reading the motion just to make sure everybody is clear on the language sure um To authorize the administration to proceed in the planning of the summer meals In coordination with the community connections program calendar with the location at emes Good, okay, thank you very much. So all in favor green button all opposed red no button and I'm seeing green All the way through. Okay. Thank you everybody now, um 4.3.5 energy project consultant floor Um mentioned this as well floor Would you like to do the honors? sure, so We table this this item in our agenda because we don't we don't have a consultant in mind And we want to coordinate with bill ford who we have hired Already as 80 to coordinate our facility work So at the next facilities if finance meeting we will be looking at options to hire a consultant For the energy consultant to help us look at options similar to net mirroring Not directly at net mirroring, but how can we make our schools more green? So That's that's where we left that I don't think we need to elaborate too much into it I think we all agree that we wanted to have an energy consultant in debora also came Got some names that potentially could be Cost-free, but we don't we don't know yet So we want to come back to you with more information when we have concrete numbers And potential people Great. Thank you very much So, um, we have uh, there we're right about time for a break Jonas, should we do esp first and then have a break before policy? Um, would that be yeah, sure. I mean, I don't have a whole lot to say um, you know again, uh last monday we had a A productive and collegial meeting with the union representatives. Unfortunately A number of them had internet connection difficulties and we had to end it For I think all of us wanted to but we're looking into options for Some people on the union side felt comfortable having an in-person meeting Some people in the larger negotiating group were not comfortable with that. So with debora's help We're looking at options for You know a limited in-person session or you know a larger room or To have people in separate rooms You know in a school building, you know when masked and you know everything that we can do We don't have any tentative agreements yet Although we are moving the ball down the field on a number of things And I'm you know, I'm confident that there's you know, you know, good will and understanding and that we will get this done That's great. Thank you very much So, um, how about five minutes before we tackle the uh, the policy block? Um, which is the the major thing tonight? um, come back at 8 15 Everybody okay with that? great Okay, if I can call everybody who might be Uh masked but still listening great Wonderful all we see is Of chris mcvay as his houseplant Ren and mala are waiting in the wings, but they actually want to say hi to sorsha And and not to mr. McVay I'm sure they will. Hey chris The girls wanted to say good night limited limited appearance here for sorsha anderson. They really want to say hi to sorsha Maybe a well social distance Good night We have to we have to put these new opportunities to ever use the can yes chris I have to learn how to use this chat because when you um Made the motion for the um teacher retirement. I sent you a chat. I wanted to send you a chat. It said Is hammered a neutral word? It didn't make it to me though I got to debra I know debra right now. We can only privately chat you as far as I can see I I just see that because I can I couldn't figure out how to do it. Yeah, I just did that because it's a public record and I wanted you to be aware of that So anyone who's on the call can read what you what you write in there It's unless you send it privately which some of you do to each other So we could have a discussion about that later. I suppose I mean I can you know It's just up to you guys how you want to do So then are you reading all that? Will your comments are are going are you had mentioned some people had mentioned before that they should be part of the public record And some of the comments may or may not want in the public record. So it's up to you, but um Well, you can have me You should you know, okay, so I think I do think that needs to have a Decision I don't I don't know that any of us I mean make privately people were saying some things To themselves, which the host can always see and should be part of the public record But I think we should decide if there are We want That we identify we're aware it is the public record And whether or not we do want the chat otherwise the chat should just be disabled. I think It is disabled except to debora where she could then tell us what it is Yeah, that's how it is right now, but maybe we could talk about that at the agenda Yeah, we can we can do that. Um, we still have a fair that that's a that would be a fun discussion But um, first we have to get the work done and then we can have the fun um, so Ready to move on to 4.5 policy chris, would you like to introduce tonight's contestants Or we have a we have a a number of policies to Uh consider the first one is second reading. Well, first what we can do is a slate. I think Second reading of b3, which is the alcohol and drug free workplace policy And c1 which is a student education records policy And also number c4 limited english proficiency student policies and they start on page 32 So we'll take up take them up one at a time, but both of them as a slate Unless someone has an objection to that Um, I certainly have no objection if someone would like to make a motion to that effect This is Steve. Look, I'd make a motion to approve the second reading of b3 c1 and c4 Excellent. Thank you, student second Dorothy seconds. Great. All right Go ahead chris. So in in b3, um, we made um some Changes to address the issue of um, of of Of the influence of someone being under the influence of drug and we ended up going back to just Look at the changes that we made Um, and we we think it covered the sense of where the board was Um, concerned about use of drugs and impairment even for prescription medications and Um, how that could be addressed Um on the school property Any board member comments or questions on this? Okay Continue chris Okay, um c1 No, no changes. We basically kept it as is Does any member have a question on c1 as it is currently written? And c4, um is basically the same No changes made there either Any any questions before we go to a vote? Okay, let's go to a vote then all in favor of um approving the slate of policies as moved by steven and um seconded by Oh, dorthy, um, please Click green. Yes Opposed click red. No And I see all green Great. Okay. They pass on second reading Nice Please Continue. Hey, so so first thought we have um a slew of policies for first reading um and And I would propose that we just go through them one by one and see if anyone has Any comments or concerns and then at the very end Move them as a slate with any proposed changes Or suggestions just to move to for the board to for the policy committee to reconsider them So first up is c2 And the significant change there was we in the definition of drugs we added in an educational component Or at least emphasize the educational component involving drug use and abuse Chris I had a comment about that one It just kept me as odd where you And I Thought maybe it would work better down under the section labeled A report Since it is an annual report That's that's sounds like a fine comment to me Any questions about there or any concerns about that? Sorry. What was that comment cari? There's a suggestion to move the additional language to the the section subsection Okay, uh next any other comments before I move on to c3 Okay, so c3 deals with transportation um, it's it's basic policy that we've had and No significant no changes at all that were proposed Okay, so we'll move on then to c5 Uh, which is the weapons and firearm policy No significant changes proposed or recommended I seem to remember there was some conversation in a previous meeting about uh making definitions here between You know, uh u32 and elementary violations of this policy by students That's not necessarily something I was in favor of um, but am I am I misremembering? Um, if I'm not then forgive the digression No, no, no, I think you're probably right that I don't think There used to be different policies for u32 and different policies among the elementary schools But I think the idea is to make them is to kind of Um, unify them Well, there is but sometimes one size does not fit all Um, does the board have a sense as to whether or not this may be one of those policies where we should Try and differentiate between u32 In elementary schools What was the specific change? I'm sorry that you were looking to make on this policy I'm not looking to make any change not at all And in fact, you know under uh, you know part a, you know The circumstances where the board may modify expulsion Um You know, I think that that probably covers, you know, all but the craziest edge cases of what we would see You know, even from elementary students This is not a this is not a zero tolerance, you know, bring a jackknife to school in your expelled period Policy are you on c2 or am I I'm sorry, which one are you on aren't we on weapons and firearms? Yes, c5 c5 I apologize my mistake. Okay No, I think that this policy is uh appropriate and well crafted. I was just Uh checking to make sure that, you know, if there was someone's concern out there that That it didn't get lost in shuffle I think that there was a There's there's been a change in Discipline approaches that's been Gosh It's hard to describe this in a quick nutshell but At one point we had all moved many school districts had moved to zero tolerance Is this what you're referring to jonas and as opposed to Uh discretion around expulsions and there's been a lot of case law around that too So if there's something here that you think we should amend I I I do I do not see that no again I think the policy is is appropriate and well crafted and I would support it So just be aware that there's a distinction between dangerous weapon In firearm in terms of expulsion And the under firearm it is a shallow mandatory expulsion So the may the may does create discretion in terms of a dangerous weapon But I I read the shallow as uh Well, it's still good. It's a board. Yeah some some uh leeway, but Anyway, there's there's definitely a different emphasis in terms of the firearms because it uses the stronger mandatory shell And they're you know, there are plenty of opportunity to change No, there are plenty of opportunities for you know for the board's discretion Chris, can you just point me to the shell that you're looking at? I just want to make sure I'm tracking If look at Part a Okay Um, I believe some Is uh Dispanned by the board to abroad Shall be expelled Whereas up above talking about a dangerous weapon says may expel I say it's very last line on the first page Yeah, I think um You're suggesting but then then the next stage is the modifying language right right Yeah, okay Yeah, I feel like that's a pretty big modification of the shell so Okay I think i'm comfortable with it too Next up is um c6 on home study students No proposed change there Any questions on c6 c8 uh deals with uh pupil privacy rights No proposed change in the current policy there I think we must see seven We Yeah, you missed attendance Page um 50 I didn't Well C7 though is warned Let's go back to yeah, but we're not voting on it, right? These are all first readings that we're in right now No, yeah, okay. Oh, I see they're all the same. Okay. Sorry Any questions on c7? Hearing them we'll move on to c8 pupil privacy rights No proposed change um c10 The prevention of harassment hazing and bullying policy which has extensive Procedures attached to it and definitions No proposed changes to this either Hearing no comments we'll move on to c11 student freedom of student freedom of expression in school sponsored media Only minor changes uh striking supervisor union and just enrolled in the district clarifying where it applies any comments Hearing none we move on To c30 in terms of student medication No proposed changes for this policy Next up is um the c32 involving 18 year old students No proposed changes for it. So having run through our slate Um, is there a motion? Yeah, well, we don't need a motion. It's first reading, right? It's first reading. Yeah So we'll bring them back for second reading at our next meeting Fantastic all again well done policy committee is um quite impressive all the committees are but you all have been cranking through these that uh At an impressive rate Okay, never has never has a little bit of a whip It's done by the end of the year Yeah, it looks like everything is sunshine and and Um and flowers in the field behind her, but but yeah, we know how it really is Okay, so um, thank you everyone moving on to 5.1 approving the minutes of may 6th That start on page 93. Do we have a motion to approve those minutes? Lindy moves second Jonas seconds and Gael yance Just happened to notice that um Okay, any changes to those minutes Do they look good to you? If so, then let's move to a vote All in favor, please click your yes button. No, your red no button. Great looks like all green Um minutes are approved Now um for the board orders. Does anybody happen to have them up? Um and can make a motion With the um with the correct numbers to them, please I'll move that we approve board orders in the amount of $258,254 and 11 cents And in the amount of $6,156 and 91 cents Wonderful. Thank you. Is there a second please? For our seconds any questions about the board orders That we received Um, if not Um, if not If uh, if we could all please vote green. Yes red no Great it looks like all green from what I can see Wonderful. Thank you very much. Um Okay, um now we have the personnel uh hires resignations retirements As I recall these are in an email Um, am I remembering correctly? Yes, uh in the same email on 515 Would you receive the board? So I can I can read them aloud if you would like Or would you like to wait a moment for people to gather the Come on Um Sure, uh We can we move to um to Hire the the slate of candidates Well, there's hiring there's resignation and there's did you just do each little bit at a time each little bit at a time Yeah, each separate actions at a time If someone would like to move the hirings I can do that. Do you want me to read them? I'm sure if you could please um, the new hirings are tests press stage For a u32 position Patty abraham for a berlin position Danielle jesmonth for a berlin position Very good. Um, that's correct. Yes, debba Yes, okay Um, so we have lindy moving do we have a second? I'll second a second. Um, okay, uh, chael, uh, I'll go with chael Thank you. Um Any discussion any anything we need to know about these people debba? Well, we're excited to welcome all of them. Um, as you can see from the nominating papers that follow they come to us with Advanced degrees and some in some cases some experience all have been vetted by their In committees and their respective schools and strongly recommended. I interviewed all of them by a zoom as well and We're very pleased to welcome them wonderful um, so if uh, is there any question from board members any um further discussion if not, we can go to a vote all in favor of the hirings as presented By lindy and seconded by chael Please click your yes button No, uh, red no button And I see all Yeses So um, the hirings carry um Next up, uh, resignations or resignation. I should say no um I don't have it in front of me. What what is the um? What is the action retirement retirement retirement? Okay John fish from callas. Yes Um, would someone like to move that the board approved john fishes retirement? I move the board of john fishes retirement. Okay, jonis moves and um, who? This is jail all second Well, yeah, and okay. Dorothy also offered a second if you want to we have uh, we have An embarrassment of riches in the second department. Um, but that's that's great. Well, um, jonis moves jail seconds and John fish has done great service over the years So we wish him well. Is there any Any further discussion before we go to a vote? If not all in favor, please click your yes button and no red button Okay, I see all yeses Thank you very much and um Further personal actions under this The resignations alexandra morse Our callus and he's not till your art teacher. He has resigned and Debra gale our Triple e teacher working in berlin Also resigned and there are other opportunities We will miss them. Yeah Thank you. So do we have a motion to accept those resignations? Floor moves all second Gila seconds Any further discussion? I love that we live in a place where someone can just put their first name On a retirement form and we know who she is That's yeah, I I agree Um, all right all in favor of approving these resignations, please click your yes button. No click your red no button And I I see all yeses once again Um, wonderful. Thank you everyone So um future agenda item. Oh, are there any more personnel actions before I Take off. Okay Excellent. Okay. So future agenda items. Um, does anybody have anything uh, dianne So I'm wondering based on the little the subgroup that puts together some ideas around teacher appreciation If there is potentially a request for monies to be considered does that need to go on the agenda tonight or how does that work? um Floor I think I think we can we have information for the planning agenda meeting I think we could incorporate that but I I I don't think it hurts to say that You we want to have teacher appreciation on the next meeting And if we need to table it we need to table it and then we can take action Okay, sounds good All right, is that is that good with you dianne? Okay No, I'm just yawning For a long day Yeah, yeah, it's almost This part amazingly is almost um is almost Yeah, let's not let's not count our chickens. Let's just Yeah, true Okay, um, so if we're done with future agenda items Um, I would entertain a motion to go into executive session for the purpose of Discussing employee evaluation personal matter Would anyone moved thank you gel second Floor seconds, okay all in favor, please click here. Yes, or you're no if you're opposed And um, I see all yes, so I would propose that we go in with debora um So as of now, we're in executive session with debora And we'll put you into your breakout room. Okay Very good. And before uh before I go There may be I don't know. There may be a vote. Um, but Jonas will be able to relay relay that to lisa. So lisa, um, you may enjoy the rest of your evening Thank you lisa. Thank you very much All the rest of you too may enjoy the rest of your evenings Those of you who aren't joining us who I hope enjoy that anyway Okay, um, so Is there anything else before we um before we bid one another farewell And adjourn for the night Scott, this is steve Yes, please for the for the record. There should be a notation that We came out of executive session with no action taken Thank you so much steven the the minutes will reflect that during the executive session the board discussed personnel evaluations And did not take any action um After that discussion because because no action is noted. I don't think it's necessary to note the absence of action We were blessed with um with a great deal of chair board chair experience on this board Which I'm which I valued tremendously And um, thank you Uh, shall we then adjourn by consensus at 907? Many many yes, good job. Wow Everybody thank you everybody my dream They could care Bye