 in the Discord or if you're watching live on the YouTube stream We are also simulcasting on Twitch today as an experiment So you can pop on over there as well And see how the experiment goes and it'll be I will make sure to Archive it afterwards as well. Did you change the the title before you went live on Twitch? No Yeah, you got to remember to change the title So the title right now is ask the VR guy, which is not I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I Don't be sorry. All right So I was just asking to see so So if someone comes in starts asking us VR questions, they don't get upset and be like that's the wrong show But yeah, I looked look at that. We are actually in live. We're on Twitch amazing Oh my god, it's in three screens Dogs on film look it's W. Scott is one in the Twitch chat room IRC chat room and W. Scott is one probably a discord although. I'm not I don't want to kill my bad Wow, so he brings bacon is also in the actually. It's actually Using 50% of my CPU to run all this stuff. Oh boy, that's exciting. It's exciting 50% right 50% is just not even being right. You got the other half Man this monitor is super helpful with this. Oh, yeah, you got a brand new what what monitor did you get? It's it's it's not it's not a brand new because I bought for It's new to you. It's a it's new to me. It's a what the heck is it called maybe master 80 So what not you don't know the brand? No, it's a Gosh darn it. It's a P a monitor though. It's a 4k monitor You have a higher resolution monitor than I have right now Have an old HP that I bought in 2013 Well, I won't you tell me my monitor name thing lame lame You could look at the Yeah, no, it's a p2. It's a p27 15q So it's about four years old In terms of product nice and big nice and bright 27 inch The neck up your face looks so good because you get all that light Well that and I have the shades all the way open to to get the sun back in But it's pretty snazzy and I got it relatively cheap. It was like 220 bucks before taxes and shipping Normally it would be like for something 450 430 if they still sell it they they've stopped selling it Retail, but it came back from some company on the lease and I bought it Thanks to refurbished Be master points out that you can see the little chicklets In the twitch stream and yes, we know that's true. You can Do you not want those? He's well and and he's talking about you can see your you can see your eye elements too. I don't know Yes, so that's I don't know. Yeah, they fade away after they'll disappear Well, what do you guys what do you guys say we do a show Alright, I'm in yeah, what do you want to do it about? Oh? Let's wing it. All right Good, I'm in let's let's do it here. We go Roger are you ready? Yes in three two? Creative arts has supported independent tech news directly for five years be like Ryan That's his real name become a DTS member at patreon.com slash DT and s This is the Daily Tech news for Monday April 15th 2019 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt and from studio feline I'm Sarah Lane and from a sunny so Cal Spring I'm Roger Chang the shows producer Alrighty folks. We are going to follow up on something. We asked you about last week We got some folks writing in telling us why they do or do not use smart speakers We're all gonna talk about our own Accommodations to those and and what our feelings are about that, but let's start with a few tech things you should know As expected the European Union voted to give final approval to the copyright directive 19 EU countries approved the directive with Finland Italy Luxembourg the Netherlands Poland and Sweden opposing and Belgium Estonia and Slovenia Abstaining EU countries now have two years to pass laws that conform to the directive iOS 13 is the assumed star of Apple's annual worldwide developers conference coming up June 3rd Probably along with Mac OS sources till 9 to 5 Mac that the update will include dark mode and multiple window functionality for the iPad iOS 13 might also introduce a new standard three finger tap undo gesture for text input on the iPad and Safari on iOS 13 according to these Sources would automatically ask for a desktop version of websites on the iPad when necessary Other updates might be font management smarter mail and a redesigned Reminders app as well Bots from open AI defeated the world champion at Dota 2 team og in a best of three series Open AI limited the hero selection to 17 per squad Use the captain's draft game mode which lets teams ban specific heroes from being selected and disabled summoning and illusion features For the matches each bod had been trained using deep reinforcement learning and operated independently in the match Open AI will open the system for the public to play for three days starting on April 18th Right around the corner and will focus on software to allow AI bots to collaborate alongside humans in real time All right, let's talk a little bit more about A rumor that microsoft might be getting into the headphone game Man, it's all the rage isn't it brad sams over at throughout dot com reports that microsoft is developing a pair of wireless earbuds code named Morrison according to sources potential pricing and a release date are unknown And microsoft is reportedly also working on a way to improve interactions between a phone and the earbuds to make Reading easier think about what that would seem like the name surface buds is being tossed around according to sands But whether that will stick is yet unknown Now the surface headphones Were codenamed Joplin like uh either janice and or scott Joplin Somebody hung out in the 60s Related And then well scott joplin wouldn't have been in the 60s. He was like way back. Well, I was thinking janice and then jim morrison Well, what I was saying was surface headphones were either scott or janice joplin And I was getting to what you just said which is morrison probably implies jim morrison So expect a lot of doors music in the ads, but yeah other than that I mean I love the idea of microsoft providing another alternative out there in the wireless earbuds space I love wireless earbuds where you just put them in and they work Yeah, I'm curious this this thing that uh brad wrote about The reading the headphone to make the reading easier. Would it be like Reading to you while you're I don't understand that Yeah, I mean I I obviously anybody who follows gtns knows that I'm I'm in the middle of testing out some some earbuds for for a later For a later dump on what up why they're good and why they're not And for the most part, you know, I I have a lot of positive things to say, but I was like, huh How would read like how hmm? I mean Would the assistant be reading things to me because that's not really a super novel Touch a word and it'll Tell you how to pronounce it or give you definitions. I'm curious. Very. Yeah same Send along your speculations to feedback at daily tech news show dot com please do you can Find all kinds of reviews of the samsung galaxy fold out there today I read through a bunch of them and the consensus is You can see and feel the crease a little more than people expected when it is in its tablet mode But it mostly disappears when you're looking at it head on and you just barely feel it when you're swiping Pretty much everybody said you get used to it really fast and all these folks just got their hands on it for a few hours at most Nobody likes the notch where the cameras are up in the corner But everybody said the hinge is is really solid really stable The tablet does lay flat when it's unfolded The fingerprint sensor is on the bixby button which threw a few reviewers off because they expect the fingerprint sensor on the power button Which it's not 4.6 inch front screen generally felt small to most of the people I read also While it can fit in a pocket some people are like yeah, it fits pretty well Other people are like this did not fit in my cup pocket Maybe it depended on the size of the pockets of the person who's trying it out. I don't know App continuity, which is what expands the app from the small screen when you unfold it to the bigger one Seems to work well for the apps. It's been designed for those are all the google apps I think spotify whatsapp a few other apps, but not every app has it If you don't recall the samsung galaxy fold has that 4.6 inch screen on the front and a 7.3 inch screen when unfolded It's shipping april 26th for a thousand nine hundred eighty dollars brian heater from tech crunch said the fold's not perfect But it's a pretty solid first take at a new smartphone paradigm jessica dollcourt over at sea net said on the whole the fold feels like a premium cohesive device lauren good at wired said samsung is acknowledging that this thing isn't for everyone And they're right. She was like, I don't think i'm going to buy one The verge's deeter bones said A small tablet that happens to fold up is how he would describe this not a phone That you can turn into a tablet He's like it's a tablet that you can fold up and put in your pocket And jeffrey feller over the washington post said the question is how many people really need an android tablet with them at all times Well, you know, I think I think the verge's Explanation of this is a small tablet that you can make smaller and take with you on the go Would be the selling point for me Because the whole idea of like well the notch is a little weird and you know the the You know the way that it folds is you know this or that it's like If this is a all-in-one device And I've decided to you know go with the bigger form factor knowing that I can you know put it in a pocket You know if I'm not wearing my skinniest jeans blah blah blah then then great I I think that that is actually That that actually makes a lot of sense to me rather than How this is not a tablet not a phone or maybe it's both There were a couple comments out there too of people saying you know what 7.3 inch tablet isn't real common these days I forgot how handy that is Uh to have a smaller tablet for certain things I missed the uh my gout my google nexus, which was seven inches Because it was a great way to read Books that felt like a paperback Even though it was a tablet I also know I think it was Dieter bone from the virgin. I may be wrong on this Said that you can still use it even when it's partly unfolded So like you don't have to fold it flat. It still works in the tablet mode So you can hold it like a paperback and read it that which i'm like All your family will come in useful. Anyway It's a $2,000 item that I will uh as much as I'm tempted to try it out not be getting Mostly because I just didn't want to go through all of the hurdles you had to get go through to order one For the privilege to give them a thousand nine hundred dollars Uh, but I I jury's still out. I still think there might be an unexpected function to this It might end up just being a flash in the pan. I don't know. I don't know. It's funny We're you know, we're still at that point where we're all like, how is this going to be better for us? We don't know yet. None of us have one You know, so it's like you get the initial reviews and people have their things to say and you could take that into account If you read tech news as we do and then you kind of yeah, I'm kind of like well, I want to try it But I don't know if I need it I wonder if uh like you say I because the washington post also said it feels like it's a tablet not a phone I wonder if it ends up just being an option for tablets like they'll when tablets come out They'll be a few different sizes and they'll be one and two versions that are foldable if you want that Yeah, easier story I imagine a world where we're like remember when the ipad came out and like tablets didn't fold up They were just big You just had to deal with them like it may not be a new form factor. It may just be a feature for tablets. Yeah Uh moving on microsoft notified an unknown number of affected outlook.com users on friday that malicious actors could have viewed account information from january 1st through march 28th of this year thanks to a compromised credentials from a support agent That agent has not been named the majority of users were informed that account email addresses folder names and Subject lines of emails were also visible less than six percent of affected accounts were notified that the bad actors Could have had unauthorized access to the content of their email accounts Motherboard says that some compromised accounts were used to reset iCloud accounts linked to stolen iphone I know you want to name and shame that customer support agent But can you imagine how bad you'd feel if you're the one who got spearfished? Yeah I know the results are they not whole yeah Yeah, that that's where the biggest breaches come from and the fact that there is content of your emails Uh in a small number of cases, but six percent, you know up to six percent That's still a lot of cases and because it was used uh to get iphone's this all comes back to not a tech breach This comes back to a human breach where somebody was there wasn't a a piece of security There wasn't a piece of technology That failed it was it was somebody got tricked and it's easy to throw stones at them But all of us have been close to being tricked or some of us out there probably have been tricked And and are embarrassed to admit it absolutely and before the show roger and tom and I were talking like do you have outlook Dot com email addresses. I mean maybe maybe not I do because I was forced to at some point because hotmail went away And that was like the way that I was able to pour it over a bunch of information that I had in the past So this is not something that this is a dormant account for the most part But it is an account that I have and it was something that I had kind of forgotten about I definitely still have one because I have an xbox live account Well, I have an xbox live account too, but I don't have an outlook. I don't use an outlook dot com account You don't have to have outlook to use xbox. No, but I had it before and that's just what it tied it to so Okay, I see Stars the television service recently had a lot of screeners of upcoming episodes of shows that hadn't been released leaked online They did what a lot of companies do in this situation. It's they're not the first to have it happen They hired a third party to go track down copies of them being posted without authorization and get them taken down under the dmca the digital millennium copyright act However, the third party they hired was a little too ambitious To the point that stard has had to issued an apology Monday For ordering twitter to remove two posts And probably more with links to articles about the tv show piracy that I just talked about Stars said their third party copyright enforcement company was a little over zealous Uh torrent freak had a tweet linking to their story taken down The story from torrent freak merely mentioned that piracy of stars content had occurred It did not link to the sources of the piracy or name sites hosting infringing content It did include limited screenshots in order to illustrate watermarks that showed that these were screener copies Which was relevant to the story and a tweet with a link to a follow-up story about the tweet being taken down Was also taken down A number of other journalists including columbia journalism review chief digital writer matthew ingram also had their tweets removed And there's a lot of frustration out there about the fact the way the dmca is supposed to work If stars comes to you and says take this down and has my copyright you take it down And if someone says no it doesn't they're wrong you put it back up and people like matthew ingram are saying I let them know two days ago that there was nothing infringing about what they took down and they haven't got back to me Yeah before the show I had mentioned This seems like a really weird story and you were like no, it's actually pretty cut and dry It's just the player is involved that makes the story interesting Yeah, this happens a lot. Uh, it doesn't always happen to Torrent freak although it actually happens to torrent freak quite a bit It usually doesn't happen to this number of journalists at once, uh, but these companies these third party companies They always cast their nets wide That's one of the problems with the dmca is they can just say take something down because they're covering their butts Like we don't want to we want to make sure we get as many of these copies down as possible So we're not worried about false positives and that that's a problem with the law That's been a problem with the law for a long time Would you like to talk about very large airplanes? Yes Good the largest airplane ever created took off on saturday 45 minutes after sunrise in the mojave desert That's in california strato launch has been working on the plane for eight years It has an 835 foot wingspan with 385 three. What did I say? You've you've said 835. Oh No, that would be Very cool We'll go with 385 foot wingspan with twin fuselages and six engines It reached 189 miles per hour and flew up to 17 000 feet above during its 15 minute 150 rather minute test flight the strato launch can carry 250 ton rockets up to 35 000 feet where the engines can ignite and enter space This is a very cool plane since it can take off from airports That would open up more rocket launch opportunities as well The project has been founded and funded by paul allen who passed away last october Yeah, so it was a bittersweet moment for a lot of folks working on it Since paul allen couldn't be there to see it come to fruition but It it was a great test People were were very happy with how the test went and It could reduce the cost of launching They had partnered with spacex at one point, but that partnership fell apart now. They're they're partnering with norther grumman And there's also competition out there virgin galactic wants to do similar Operations and they'll be testing their own version of this I believe they use bowing 747 type engines And the the virgin one will be doing that as well So strato launch does face a little uncertainty now that paul allen's gone because he was the guarantee of future funding And they're a little uncertain about that going forward, but Man biggest biggest plane ever 385 foot wingspan taken off to help us have Easier access to space Yeah And also, how would that change the you know, just just using this as a model going forward How does that change our international airports? Is there a you know a terminal where it's like, oh, that's the rocket terminal where they go? Yeah, no, that's an interesting question right because Right now if you go to big airports a lot of times you'll see the cargo area, right? Sometimes you won't sometimes it's it's separated enough that you can't see it But a lot of times it's fun if you can see it to be like, oh, there's the ups plane Like will there be a sort of similar situation where you're looking at like, oh, there's the 385 foot Yeah That would be so cool To be a little I know Essentially a rocket launch you're not seeing the rocket part of the rocket launch yet because that happens up in the stratosphere, but yeah, um That would I hadn't even thought about that aspect of it just You know your your airport lounge seating will be much more have another consideration TSA pre is more meaningful now Yeah, get into the rocket terminal Well, if you're not going on the rocket, I doubt they're gonna let you It'll probably be just I know it'll probably be a satellite or two or it does yeah, it's not manned rockets It's just it's uh, it's it's it's really it's what makes it so impressive is I mean been doing this for decades I mean the pegasus rocket was one of the big ones where they would launch it from the air and it would You you would ideally skip a one-third of the travel up and not have to build the stage for that Uh, but it's just the sheer weight that it can carry. I mean it was a 250 Tons rockets is what I think it's a 1.3 billion pounds million pounds That's I know that's a significant upgrade from from similar systems right now So, you know if they can get it. I mean Ideally it's supposed to reduce the amount that Launching would cost but uh That's definitely And essentially since you have to carry the propellant for the rest of it Yeah, exactly. It reduces the fuel a bit too Hey folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines dot com All right last week Jesse aka hometown rival asked our opinions on the security of voice speakers And then thursday we had that story about uh, the reviewing of your voice recordings on amazon So we did put out the call last week for the dts crowd To let us know what they think and we've got a representative sample of your emails As well as our own perspectives on whether or not we like to use smart speakers And if we do how we approach that and what our security thoughts are from that this this all goes back to having laura shin on the The show a week ago friday When she said that she didn't want any smart speakers in her house because she just doesn't think that's That she trusts the security of them yet So let's start with tony. Tony is an it consultant whose clients often ask about smart speakers Tony says I typically tell them you must weigh the value of the data With the security precautions you take classic security answer and a good one from tony Tony says if you're a person who regularly deals with confidential data such as medical information Industrial trade secrets or national security your data becomes much more valuable in this case You would be a fool to have one of these devices within earshot as there is a lot more motivation to tap into it But he said most of us probably don't have anything to worry about Got another email from kv and windy virginia who says most of the time I use this as a developer toy the apis for echo in my case are fun to mess with Paradoxically, I don't really use it day to day as I find voice interaction awkward And or slow for most tasks that are one or two taps away Also, due to personal concerns about privacy Transparency and risks of accidental capture with others in the house. It's either mostly muted or unplugged Uh, I the the developer who likes to play with it also knows the dangers. I like that Nick wrote after switching to android and being clued into the my activity section of google settings having a history of everything I've ever done with a google product. I was officially creeped out I was also upset that I wasn't told about the data collection upfront I am not going to put a smart speaker in my house if I could use a smart speaker without fear of data collection I'd reconsider my position as the idea of asking for some music or a podcast to be played in the background appeals to me I use google's my activity page to regularly prune what google knows about me But I wish I didn't have to as it's a chore And jesse aka hometown rival who kicked off this entire conversation give us a little bit more Inside on on how jesse's setup looks Jesse wrote my family has three smart speakers and amazon echo in the living room And a google home in the kitchen and master bedroom. We mainly use them for setting timers turning smarts Which is on and off adjusting our nest thermostat and asking an occasional question Every once in a while i'll play music or cast a podcast from my phone I'll have some private c concerns with these speakers. My wife has more to help with this I just installed an app called jumbo that makes it easy to erase Saves recordings. Yeah, so jumbo promises to go delete your social media data collection Think about this is and jesse Where does it go with jumbo though? I know you have to get access to your accounts to do this and I don't know who's behind jumbo jumbo is by 2121 atelier incorporated. I don't know anything about them. I haven't spent a lot of time looking into them either So i'm not going to you know judge jesse for this. I'm sure he he feels safe with them But that is one of the things is If you're using something to manage your data, then you have to make sure you trust The company that you're using to manage your data for yeah, absolutely What about you sarah? Uh, you've got some voice activated stuff. You you mentioned your sonos speakers I do. Yeah, I have I have two sonos ones. Um, which use amazon's assistant. Um, currently and I They're they're in two different parts of the house. So they they don't have like issues with each other You know, it's it's depending on where I am the the right speaker will will wake Um when I when I ask the weather But you know, I kind of do the same stuff every day You know, I I play a certain certain news clips I mean people who listen to daily tech headlines talk about how smart speakers are actually a really great way to get that I have my own I ask the weather first thing I do before I get out of bed every morning I could look at my phone, but I enjoy hearing her just tell me what the weather is supposed to be like today But I know that I'm not really using it to its full potential For the most part, these are just good speakers that I play music on Do you worry about it? He's dropping on you keeping You know, I think that I I would worry about it the same way that I would worry about it if I Were to cover up the the the camera Um, you know the eyesight camera on my laptop the way some people do and have great reasons And a lot of other people are like, eh, don't care. I'm one of the don't cares Um, I I I feel like they're the the capacity for There to be data collected on me that I don't know about is hi But I I also just don't I don't know. I I don't feel super paranoid about the smart speaker stuff I I and I know that there have been I mean and we've talked about this on the show with amazon in particular like Situations where someone's like, I just got a hundred hours of someone else's You know a echo Um, you know what what they were talking to their speaker about, you know, this is crazy You know and amazon's like, we're sorry that was really crazy. That was very much a mistake and an anomaly So those sorts of things would be embarrassing the way that Someone reading my email would be maybe a little bit embarrassing, but like I don't know I It's hard for me to get up in arms about this sort of thing because I'm just so used to There being data issues with every single thing that I use always Roger, what about you? Um, so I only have a google shield. So it's but it has google Voice assistant on it and honestly I'm kind of 50 50 like it makes some chores a little faster, especially when I'm searching for things for the kids to watch But other things it's actually more cumbersome because to use it you need to have very clear Like it needs to be able to understand you really hard to understand you when you have a four-year-old You're all screaming in your right ear, right? So that's a good point Like she I'll say something she'll say something else and then I'll just basically be a mishmash of the two Words so yeah, um, and you get like sorry. I didn't get that. Yeah, exactly. So in terms of convenience, it's 50 50 I'm also a little reluctant to use more of it purely out of privacy concerns, but You know at the same time I don't would I wouldn't really use too much of it anyway. I'm not a big fan of Voice acted anything. I don't know Yeah, I I'm very aware that it could be recording What I say I do regularly look at my settings to see like okay turn off the lights Add tortillas to shopping lists play my flash briefing play today's hits like I get I see what it's doing I see no weird recordings except around where I asked them something like alexa skip Uh is something that I said and then after that it's text not available because it kept listening You know a few things like that I don't put it in any rooms that I really am sure I don't want it to hear anything But I I don't have a huge problem trying it out And I I try to keep up on what the security issues actually are and up until now I you know as long as I'm careful about Where I'm talking about sensitive things I find the convenience of being able to you know manage shopping lists and play music to be worth it So that's that's it. Yeah, all we got. Yeah I I don't know. I mean this is a long conversation And I know we're gonna get good feedback after this from people who you know have their own feelings about it And I thought you know good good point that you make like there are certain rooms where Things might be talked about and certain rooms that they might not be and I was like even when you said that just now I was like Yeah, you know, I should maybe think a little bit more about that That that could alleviate Uh potential concerns just on the basis of like where I do work Or it's sensitive work. Anyway. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's it's all about just being aware Don't forget that you've got a mic in your room. I guess part of the thing is I do podcasts I've got mics in my room all the time. So having another one that's connected To a speaker where I can see and I trust the audits that it is showing me everything It's recorded and sometimes the blue light goes on and I notice it and I'm like, why are you on? Uh, so, you know, if you're aware of it, I think it's I think it's a an acceptable risk to take as long as you know You're taking it Well, thanks everybody who participates in our subreddit There are a lot of smart speaker stories in our subreddit And there are a lot of other stories as well You can submit your own and vote on others at daily tech news show reddit.com Also, we're on facebook if you hang out on facebook Join our group if you haven't already facebook.com slash groups slash daily tech news show All right, we did have a lot of mail already But uh, we have some mail that isn't about smart speakers. Sarah, right? We did. Yeah This one comes from somebody who declined to be named which is fine But this was about the idea of itunes possibly being rebranded itunes going away apple Making music and movies and gaming and all of that stuff Discrete apps so said i'm not sure I fully understand how itunes can smoothly be discontinued by apple I have to agree that it's messy and I could use an overhaul And even possibly separations of functions, but am I missing something? How can we manage music files without an itunes type app to sync our music to iPods and iPhones? How can we add music files from other sources like files bought on amazon? Or that were free downloads from an artist or even just imported from cds I love that I can do physical backups of my iphone to my computer I prefer to do that with my parents and grandparents iPads as well if anything goes wrong It's so much easier to restore from itunes than try to do an iCloud restore Also an encrypted itunes restore includes all of the passwords So we don't have to enter them all again I think itunes need some fixing and retooling But I certainly won't be celebrating if it's done away with and there's no way offered for these things Other way offered for these things. Am I missing something? Yeah, you're missing I said this when we talked about them adding a tv app and a music app and a podcast app It's like they just need to add a sync app and then we're good Then we don't need itunes anymore But but that is the one thing they need to add is some kind of sync management app If they added that Then you don't need itunes because if they do what we heard they might do which is Take all the other functions and separate them out into apps. Just just give me a sync app And we're done. We're out of here That is that is a function left in itunes that we haven't heard about them replacing Yeah, and it's a good reminder because you know somebody like me is always like I hate the word itunes makes no sense It's itunes is all about other things now, you know re-branded make it different But it's good to be reminded of how well it works in its capacity no matter what its nomenclature is Now sometimes anyway, I've had some problems that sync app too I'd like I'd rather have a dedicated app that was meant just for that because it's so bloated. It's so big Hey folks our goal each month is to get one more patron than last month That means we need you to become a member of daily tech news show right now We're about a dozen less than last month and you're missing out if you're not a member You didn't get the editor's desk episode on wi-fi 6 that came out on friday morning If you're like, I don't know what wi-fi 6 is. I don't know. 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So That happens, but I don't know that the you know It's it's a lot of steps to that becoming a dangerous breach Especially if you know, it's happening and you're aware If you're somebody here's what I think is perfectly reasonable If you're somebody who's like, I don't want to have to be aware then. Yeah, maybe you don't want to have this at all And I think the home pod does all of its processing locally I could be wrong about that, but I think I thought that's what apple promised So then you don't have to worry about it being reviewed anyway Are your pockets big enough? I like that one. That's pretty good The rocket terminal also pretty good With big wings come big I was like 835 feet wingspan you're like, um, that's that's crazy. Um, I'm just gonna have to Yeah, uh, are your pockets big enough? I like that. I love that one. That's cute Because it was funny like I I don't remember who's who but I'm gonna just say like I think Dieter was the one who was like You know, it's not exactly a phone, but you you can sort of put it in your pocket It's easier to carry around than a tablet anyway And lauren good was like this is not fitting in my pockets. Like I do not call this a pocket device. Yeah Well and sure I mean the pocket thing is it's it's a very personal decision I never put my phone in my pockets because first of all my phone is big and I'm small and it's gonna fall out. I just I know that but um If I were to be wearing I don't know more comfy pants with larger pockets It would be perfectly fine and maybe I could forego the purse every once in a while Pockets are political They are, you know, the restriction of pockets was used for centuries as a way to keep people down It's a real shame. Mm-hmm. Thank goodness that pockets are here for all now Vindicated if they come for your pockets, that's when you know They came from my pockets and I said nothing All right, so oh wait, so what was the follow on uh title with big Yeah, you're gonna use a an alternate. Um, we could do big wings come big possibilities Big wings mighty big wings you have there Thank you for noticing Kind of a non-spoiler game of thrones reference as well Big wings big possibilities. I'm not spoiling anything Yeah There'll be a game they should do a game of thrones uh theme restaurant Uh, do they not I feel like there probably is that I'm sure there's a bar somewhere but I'm like If you can imagine it it exists, um Game of Thrones themed pop-up came to san francisco two days ago Well, you know, it's funny. We all have we all have those I don't know Games and thrones restaurant in burbank, but it's closed now Oh Bummer that would have been fun We all have that franchise where we're like, I'll get to it. I know you guys all like it a lot That's fine I have a really good friend who is like that with game of thrones Where I'm like you can't they like those with game of thrones you have to watch it You have to but you know that's The way that some people like feel about star wars or you know, they're you know, so many where you're just like No, I'm just I'm gonna live my life and I'm not gonna enjoy this but A bunch of us are on We're in a slack group that's all about Game of thrones, you know and just like weird conspiracy theories and strange memes and you know, we're just we're just We we we have to like get it out so we get it out with each other And she's part of the group, you know, and you know at the end of last night She's like, I mean it's amazing how much I have no idea what you people are talking about But it's very entertaining, you know, there's dragons. There's magic Everybody's pumped. I don't even I've never seen the show once It's kind of a funny way to um Be part of a thread, but Uh, you know, we do spoiler in time for cord killers Uh after cord killers every Friday every Monday And we'll talk about shows that the two of us have watched me and Brian and Bryce too And we're very careful to make sure we tell people okay now We're switching to the next topic if you haven't watched the office right and we're watching rewatching the office UK right now sort of a library watch, uh And and with all that care and all that effort to make sure we don't spoil people who don't want to be spoiled There will be people like, oh, yeah, I don't watch any of the shows But I just like hearing you and brian talk about them totally So funny it is It's it's yeah, it's sort of like you want to be part of the I don't know. There's like there's like emotional momentum They that want to be part of a zeitgeist. Yeah, exactly. That would be I can't really think of a show that I've done that with But I'm sure there's something I'm just not thinking of I'm trying to think I do that sometimes with video games where I've played Played a version of it, but I don't know the most recent one But I sort of keep up by reading comics or or you know occasional articles and I'm like, okay I guess I I sort of know the general zeitgeist. So when I see someone talking about petting the dog I know that's a red dead redemption to reference Even though I haven't played it You know and I try not to make with those references and pretend like I know But at least I I get the literacy of it. Maybe that's what that person's getting is like Okay, now when I hear all these people talking about dire wolves I know they're talking about game of thrones even if I don't know what that means within the show Right. Well, I think she also, you know, she even said, you know, because again No spoilers, but we were dissecting last night's episode and what we think might come in subsequent episodes and she was just like I mean, what you guys are saying is Insanity like it sounds like absolute insanity from somebody who just like where I'm like Well, yeah, it's a fantastical world that does not exist Right, and there there's not only don't exist But then there are ways of talking about them that are specific to the show Yeah, right. There are terms they use that we wouldn't we wouldn't use that term Here right term they use within that universe. So that makes it weirder It's like when I used to hear people talk about World of Warcraft before I ever played it And I'm like that sounds like another language I have no idea what you're talking about and then I played it and all of a sudden these Conversations that hadn't made sense to me became clear in retrospect. I'm like, oh, that's what they meant when they said that Sure. Yeah, right. Yeah Which is I mean not unlike just hanging out on the internet long enough where you're like, oh, that's what that acronym is Like it's all kind of the same Right, you know, you find your tribe and then you you know, you speak in your little language Yeah, you win or you die. Wow. That's so dramatic. I don't know another thing in the show Yeah, I choose violence We watched the the little making of episode one that HBO now put up Yesterday and they make a big deal. I have George Lucas visited the set Of Game of Thrones during the filming of episode. I mean in a way that Helped shape the narrative of the show or just cool because it was George Because he's like, this is a cool show. Can I come and they're like, yeah, you're George Lucas, of course you can I mean, it's weird. I I was actually okay. So and this might be a little dramatic But my friends and I and my game of thrones friends and I um, you know doing our little covetching as we were doing um Last night we were sort of like like this is The biggest show. I mean like Okay, Star Wars is a whole different franchise. It's film. It's cinema. It's it's Wait, you can't compare them side by side But that also ha started so long ago where the people who really care about it for the most part are people Kind of within our age range That just grew up that way game of thrones just came on the scene What seven years ago and eight or nine eight or nine nine. Yeah, okay. Well, so within the last decade And it's such a big deal And it's it's funny how like Like what what's going to be that new sort of? Oh, like if you're a super nerd, you really like this You know this this show this this movie this, you know series It's not even a super nerd thing 17 million people watch this my sister No yesterday Exactly like oh my god. It's like the super bowl, right? Like it is transcended nerddom Uh, right where it is this is this may be the last of the You know we the of the mass culture enjoyments This this may be one of the last things that everybody's like. Oh, yeah, if I don't watch it I know what you're talking about it because it's so big and everybody watches it at the same time It may be the last appointment viewing Big thing. Well, I don't think that's true I mean people who work in hollywood who like to make money will figure out something that the rest of us will like Again, I'm not saying they won't think of something we all like but the way Television is delivered now is you don't have to watch it at the same time And I think people are watching Game of Thrones the way they are out of habit, right? Like I started watching this when there was no HBO now HBO go I don't even know was around for season one So it's always been sunday night I watch Game of Thrones as soon as it's on so I can talk about it Other other series even stranger things, you know on netflix people like yeah, I watched it Oh, I'll get around to it. Oh, I finally watched it, right? They don't all watch it at once Right change in the way. We've no I read books I'll buy it and read it the same night and then talk about it the next day, right Yeah, I mean very good point I I don't know And yeah, the super nerd thing what I mean by that is not like oh you're you know It it's sort of like something that you're so into that you you're just you know, like me like I'm in a slack channel talking about Game of Thrones every day That you know that sort of like that's the super nerd thing like the super nerd thing No longer has some sort of like connotation of you know, like what kind of person you are It just means that you're super into something It's it's massively popular like yeah, it is you know millions of people all watching it at the same time And I'm not sure I will get too many more of those I think it came at that time where it bridged kind of a shift in media consumption And has written kind of that wave very well if you think of all the appointment watching before then Even then like super fandom I I judge fandoms based on the amount of shipping that gets done and you know in fan boards and stuff And like you know before then you had things like you know Bastard Galactica was kind of the reboot was kind of a thing for a segment of the population tom Remember you came over to revision three to watch the last episode. Yeah, right the other ten of us Back at tech tv it was Buffy the vampire slayer I remember because patrick was poo-pooing it every time I was talking with josh lorenz and Anvil other people about that show including I think nicky But like in terms of just brand awareness like game of thrones I mean even in outstrips walking dead I think in that regard Yeah, uh walking dead, you know has five million or so, you know per episode so it's uh I mean game of thrones is worldwide to I don't think walking dead's numbers are worldwide They're just us so it may be apples and oranges, but Yeah, uh well folks. Thanks for watching on video and uh, hope you have a lovely rest of your day audio folks stick around There is in fact more to come