 Welcome to today's event. A reminder to media on the line, please press star one to enter the queue. You will be limited to one question and one follow-up. With that, I will hand it over to Minister Selina Robinson. Thank you so much, Tara. Hi, everyone. It's great to be here with you today. And I'd like to begin by acknowledging that I am speaking to you from the traditional territory of the Lekwungen speaking peoples, the Esquimalt and Songhees nations. This year, we have all experienced the destructive consequences of climate change. As communities were scorched by heat and wildfires in the summer and flooding and mudslides only a few months later. Recent climate-related disasters have challenged British Columbians and reinforced the need to continue the fight against climate change. It has also shown that we need to come together. We need to come together to build back better from recent disasters. And make sure people and communities throughout BC are protected from future disasters. That's why we are investing $2.1 billion to build back from fires and floods and to protect people and communities from future climate-related disasters. This includes funding to rebuild from last year's floods and wildfires, strengthen our defences and respond to future wildfires, floods and extreme weather events. And significant new funding for emergency management BC and BC wildfire service. And we are looking forward to the next few years to build back better for BC and BC wildfire service to respond to disasters with a proactive year-round service model. We know that investments in prevention and preparedness, we know that these investments will help to protect people, to protect communities and to protect businesses from future climate-related disasters. I would like to ask Mike Farnworth, Minister of Public Safety and Solicitor General, to join me to speak more about these initiatives. Minister Farnworth. Thank you. And good morning, everyone. I am honored to be here on the traditional territory of the Lekwungen speaking people and the Songhees and the Squimalt First Nations. I would like to start by acknowledging the extreme challenges people in our province have faced over the past year and beyond. Recently, during the November flooding, we saw countless communities work together to make sure that those stranded due to devastating slides got to safety, received food, blankets and some degree of comfort. We saw a lot of people who were desperate to evacuate large parts of their community, including farmers desperate to save livestock. The Punjabi community in the Fraser Valley and other areas rallied to help many British Columbians in need. And here on Vancouver Island, the Halalt and Penalikat First Nations stepped up with leaders and responders from those nations working to minimize flood impacts. From wildfires and extreme heat to flooding and mudslides, the place we call the place of climate change. In response to these challenges, we know we need to make significant investments so that every person, every community and together as a province, we are more resilient and prepared to face climate-related emergencies in the future. As part of budget 2022, we are making significant investments to protect public safety. As has already been mentioned, we are moving the BC wildfire service to a year-round workforce so these professionals can support British Columbians in their wildfire preparedness, mitigation, response and recovery. At Emergency Management BC, we have made investments to expand our public alerting system and emergency search capacity to support people when it matters most. And to make sure that people and communities continue to receive timely and accurate information in the face of changing weather, the province is expanding the River Forecast Centre and floodplain mapping program. In all, more than $2.1 billion is going to help people on the ground recover and prepare now. To help communities rebuild stronger so they are better protected against future climate disasters and to make critical investments in our public safety infrastructure response. To do this, $1.5 billion in new funding will be invested over the next three years to support the province's ongoing response and recovery efforts, including rebuilding more resilient infrastructure. This includes contingencies over the next three years to support those people, businesses and communities that have been impacted due to recent disasters. With this, we will be able to improve our supports for those impacted by floods as the needs become better known. We know that people who are applying for disaster assistance need this money as soon as possible. This past fall, environments in climate change Canada describe the flooding we have experienced as a once in a century event. As testament to this, a record-breaking impact on people who have applied for disaster financial assistance. Within a one-week period, we receive three times more applications than we usually receive in an entire year. While the claims are being processed and this money is getting to people, we need to be nimble. And with budget 2022, we are making investments to make this happen. We are strengthening our ability to protect public safety and transforming emergency management BC, adding more staff to improve capacity to support communities. We are also implementing a historic investment into the community emergency preparedness fund. Up until this budget, our government contributed $77 million to this invaluable program. I am proud of the work our government has funded over the years. I am now very pleased to report that this budget allocates an additional $110 million to support communities and First Nations in funding things such as the health and safety of the community. We are also implementing a historic investment into the community emergency preparedness fund. We are also implementing things such as evacuation route planning, structural flood mitigation, volunteer fire department equipment and training, indigenous cultural safety training, flood risk assessments and emergency operations center training and supports. This program has been key to supporting First Nations and local government preparedness needs since its inception. And this record investment is going to really move the needle on emergency preparedness in the province. It is also important to note that the challenges we faced over the recent pandemic, the consecutive wildfires and flooding events and the COVID-19 pandemic have disproportionately impacted indigenous communities. And it is critical that we work side by side in partnership with First Nations to advance reconciliation by improving emergency management supports. First Nations will benefit from the record investment that this budget makes to community emergency preparedness fund as well as an additional $10 million allocated to begin to address the needs of indigenous communities. This means in total $120 million is being allocated to support both First Nations and local governments in realizing their emergency preparedness goals. With budget 2022, we are taking aggressive action to protect public safety. We are working to help people on the ground recover and we are helping communities to rebuild stronger so they are better prepared in the future. I would like to now pass it to Katrina Conroy, Minister of Forest Lands, Natural Resource Operations and the Department of Forestry. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Farners. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us here today and I too would like to recognize the indigenous nations on whose traditional territory we are gathered. I am pleased to be speaking to you from the territory of the Lekwungen speaking people, the Sonhees and Esquimalt Nations. Along with my colleagues here, I am really pleased to talk about the latest unprecedented wildfires the last couple of years have been challenging for many British Columbians. This past fire season, the Premier and I flew over fire ravaged landscapes and visited impacted communities. We saw Lytton and spoke to the devastated residents and wildfire professionals. Some of those professionals had lost their homes and while still fighting other fires and yet they continue to go out and to the front lines and fight the fires to protect people. They spoke to us about the need for wildfire mitigation and who better to do that work than the professional firefighters themselves. Those people who understand the need for wildfire mitigation. We witnessed first hand what adaption during challenging and devastating conditions look like and the countless examples of resiliency, compassion, and a strong spirit of community and pulling together. I toured fire camps, talked to the incredible people who were sent out to fight those fires, people from all across the province as well as support from other provinces and countries. I saw the devastation at Monty Lake and Paxton Valley, toured the Okanagan and Indian Band with Chief Lewis and not only saw the destruction of his nation but also saw the benefits of cultural burning and saw first hand how the fire smart program works when we met with the folks at Logan Lake and flew over their community. We know that climate change is contributing to drier and hotter summers resulting in extended wildfire seasons and it's highly likely that this trend will continue. We have seen the worst wildfire seasons on record in BC that have occurred all in the past five years. We are concerned about the impact on our lives, homes, local economies, forests, and wildlife. This is why our government is making significant investments to transform the BC wildfire service into a year round service and shift from a reactive to a proactive approach. As part of budget 2022 we are providing $145 million in new funding over three years that will strengthen BC's emergency management and wildfire services. These investments will allow BC wildfire service to work on all four pillars of emergency management, prevention and mitigation, preparedness, response, and recovery. An additional $98 million over the fiscal plan will fund wildfire prevention work and maintain crucial forest service roads used to respond to forest fires. Budget 2022 also provides $90 million in community grants for the fire smart program to help make homes and communities safer from wildfire risk. These investments are about people and our plan to support communities as we cope with the ongoing impacts of climate change. By transforming the BC wildfire service into a proactive year round service we are working to help people on the ground better prepare for and recover for future wildfires. Thank you. I would now like to introduce the Minister of Environment, Minister George Heyman. Thank you very much, Minister Conroy and I also want to acknowledge that I am on the traditional territories of the Asquimote and Songhees First Nations. As my colleagues have all said last summer delivered a devastating message and I want to thank the devastation that so many people felt who lost their homes, lost their communities, lost their livestock and lost economic stability. And I want to thank them and all British Columbians who had each other's back who stood together to support each other through an extremely difficult time. The message is absolutely clear. We are not waiting another decade or two to see the impacts of climate change. In ways we have never experienced it before and I think we all know that we can expect to experience even more of that in the coming years. And that's why it's so important that the investments in budget 2022 speak to the urgency with which our government takes this challenge and our need to act. We need to protect people and communities from climate fuel disasters. We need to help communities build back stronger and with more resiliency from the past year. And that's why we have a total of more than $2.1 billion dedicated to that. But we also know we need to expand our ability to plan for the future to address the potential impacts of climate change. It's not enough to react. We need to be able to predict. We need to be able to prepare and we need to be able to invest. Planning starts with good data, with good information. That's what will inform the right actions. The climate preparedness and adaptation strategy developed through my ministry in cooperation with other ministries across government has been out for public discussion. We had an initial investment in the last budget and we will be building on both science and indigenous knowledge to implement the strategy which will be announced in the coming months. Knowledge systems will continue to drive decision making so that we can better anticipate where we need to take stronger action to protect people, to protect people's homes and to protect their communities as well as the lives they lead. That's why budget 2022 has the most significant investments to fight the climate crisis that this province has ever seen. Among the measures of the climate preparedness and adaptation strategy which as I mentioned will be released shortly will be expanded climate monitoring networks. New equipment in the field monitoring stream flows, groundwater, snowpack to help us improve our planning for future climate impacts. There will be new climate resilience initiatives with local and indigenous governments. There will be an extreme impact on the future of our framework so that should there be a future heat dome, should there be future increased temperatures that our communities are better able and set up to support our people and there will be an expanded river forecast center and provincial flood plain mapping program. Investments in healthy watersheds which began last year as part of our stronger budget included in this year's budget because we know that investing in watershed rehabilitation helps protect us from flooding and helps protect the ecosystems on which so much of our economy depends. It also provides important employment and engagement for indigenous youth and others. This is a very substantial response and it underlines the need we feel to prepare now to invest in the measures we know that we need to take to ensure that British Columbians know that they have a more secure future to ensure that British Columbians know that their government is planning for that future. Not only to invest in measures to reduce our impacts on climate change but to acknowledge that it is here, its impact will be felt for years and we need to protect people, communities, our economy and our province. Thank you, Minister Robinson. I want to thank my colleagues. We are making strong investments to build back better from recent disasters and ensure people and communities are protected from climate-related events. In moments of crisis the BC wildfire service and emergency management BC have been unwavering in their response and we owe them our thanks and so much more. No single community should have to rebuild or move forward on its own. We are in this together and as a government we are committed to ensuring people and communities have the resources that they need to face this challenge not just for today but for years to come. We need to do this to protect people and communities right across the province. Thank you for being here with us today and we are happy to take your questions and have colleagues here to help answer them. A reminder to reporters on the line please press star 1 to enter the queue. You will be limited to one question and one follow-up. Our first question today comes from Jiao Zhu, Globe and Mail. Thanks for taking my question. Some of the people remain displaced and their homes both from BC and the money from Ottawa has promised flow so that they can rebuild and return home. Thank you for the question. That process is already underway in a number of communities that have been impacted by floods and fires. We have had assessors out to assess the damage on individual properties and then been working with them in order to determine the eligibility and the funding that they will require and so that work is ongoing. Jiao, do you have a follow-up? Yes, I do. Your budget promise is more money for climate monitoring and extreme heat response plan. Will those measures be in place before the summer? Thank you. It's an important question. As I mentioned, we have $83 million in this year's budget for the climate preparedness and adaptation strategy and we will be kicking that off later, a late winter, early spring, setting up the networks that we need to do that monitoring and preparation. It will be ongoing. It will obviously not all be in place in order to take the data and make some of the predictions that we would all hope we would have for the summer, but it is a critical piece of being prepared for the years to come. Next question comes from Richard Zussman, Global News. This is from Minister Farnworth. ICBC has provided some data around COVID-19 related tickets. It shows just over a quarter of the fines have been paid. Does this send a message to British Columbians that broke COVID-19 laws that there are largely or no repercussions considering that so many of those tickets have not been paid? Absolutely not. We want to be clear and we were clear when we made the announcements in terms of the COVID-19 tickets that when 30 days have passed and you have not disputed the ticket then it will be sent to a collection agency. On top of that we know that a significant number of the tickets are in fact being disputed and I would also add the following point that at the end of the day when you go to renew your ICBC insurance you have to pay the fine. And so those tickets will be paid it may take a little time but they will be paid. Richard, do you have a follow-up? Some of the charges have also been stayed. Some of the more significant ones link to religious gatherings that at the time was a slap in the face of the policies that have been put in place by government. Are you, what do you think of these decisions being stayed and considering we are working our way in the tail end of the pandemic is the thought that more of these could be stayed as some experts have indicated? Whenever there is an investigation that is done by the police and whether a ticket is issued it is potentially it can be disputed and decisions around staying are not made by ICBC they are not made by me they would be addressed when issues have been placed by out of the attorney general's ministry but when tickets are issued we fully expect that if they are not disputed you are going to have to pay the fine and as I said if your insurance is up for renewal you are going to have to pay that fine and of course when they are disputed they will go through the court process and that is handled by the ministry of the attorney general Next question comes from Lisa Cordasco, Vancouver Sun Thank you very much I would like to go back to the discussion about the displacement of people Minister, the best you have to offer is that you are doing an assessment now these people have been out of their homes from between six to eight months is there nothing further you can offer them about when they might see a return? Absolutely First part of the answer then I was expecting a supplemental which was actually on a different topic there has been a significant amount of work in terms of people returning home as we know in the case of Merritt the vast majority of people have returned home as I said earlier the homes are assessed and at one point we had over 7,000 people out of their homes the homes have been assessed by green, yellow and red so they are able to be inhabited and obviously the ones that are green you can go back to the assessment on those that are done that were yellow people are able to return they may require some additional repair or cleaning those are by and large we are now getting to the ones where there are those that have the home is uninhabitable for example they are in accommodation and will continue to be supported through the red cross until such time as they are able to return home and what is critical in that of course is getting a proper assessment getting the money out the door for those individuals we want the back as quickly as possible but the key element of course is ensuring that the supports are in place and they know those supports are going to be there and they are and will continue to be in place thank you for that minister I would like to ask a general question about the climate preparedness strategy that is we will see soon critics have said that the whole clean BC program is kind of an industry greening initiative that are for really greenwashing the fracked gas industry and I'm wondering about what you said about fossil fuel development why in BC are we embarking on the growth of an LNG industry at the same time that we are seeing the effects of climate change and you are trying to spend and you are going to have to spend all this money to try to mitigate and prevent climate disasters thank you very much for the question we are in the midst of a very significant transition and British Columbia frankly is a leader in that transition on the continent but we know we have much more to do what some people call support for a gas industry is part of responding to the call of our climate solutions council which includes climate experts and environmental leaders as well as people from industry to ensure that as we transition we support people and we support jobs in a mission intensive trade exposed industries and we are making a portion of the carbon tax paid by industry and we are rewarding those industries that are world leading in terms of reducing emissions and we are joining with others and making significant capital investments to drive down their emissions in industries like pulp and paper like mining like forestry and yes in the gas industry which still supplies gas that many British Columbians rely on and we are working on this and there is a lot of simplification the factory means that we still have people in British Columbia and elsewhere relying on that sector and our program clean BC program for industry was recognized in Glasgow with an award as the most creative government climate program among over 126 regional and sub national governments and we are proud of the way We're proud of the clean BC program and yes, we acknowledge that we're in a crisis and we all have much more to do and that's why we're tweaking and updating the program every chance we get and where we see the opportunity to do more, we push hard to do that. The next question comes from Chad class and CFJC TV Kamloops. Thanks guys for taking my question. This is the question for Minister Conroy perhaps Minister Far North as well. I'm wanting to get a better picture of what a year round BC wildfire service will look like. Minister Conroy I know you sort of touched on some of the details, $90 million for our smart programs among other things. Sounds like it's going to be maybe a combined effort between the wildfire service and local communities. Can you give me a little more insight into what exactly that will look like? I certainly can and want to acknowledge that Kamloops is actually the home of the BC wildfire service. We are going to be able to have people working at centres year round, people that are going to be able to not only look to do the wildfire work during the wildfire season but actually able to do the mitigation and who better than firefighters who know what they need to do when it comes to mitigation. They will be working with communities, you're right, there's $90 million there for communities, indigenous nations across this province so that they can engage in the effects of that program at, for instance, at Logan Lake as I mentioned and we saw the fire where it came up to Logan Lake and then it just moved away from the community because of the work that they had done, the mitigation that they had done and we want to see that in communities right across the province so this money will ensure that we have people working year round, that we have people that will be able to go out and work with communities, work with communities, work with communities and we saw the fire yesterday or this morning. Actually a report came out from the UN that said one of the ways that countries around the world have to deal with wildfires is have mitigation so that there is an annual mitigation and that's exactly what we're doing so we're moving in the right direction, we're going to be able to help communities across this province. The wildfire people, the folks are extremely excited about it because it's going to be a great time for us to talk about the wildfire that we're going to be talking about. Another question for you and anyone else that wants to chime in, one of the camels MLA, Todd Stone told me yesterday and this is a long-winded question. He feels that the NDP has thrown up the white flag and turned its back on the forest industry specifically with your old growth logging policy, mills in the woods, they might be completely out of wood in the next three weeks because they saw the reliant old growth to make their product, minister Conroy and others, but seems pretty grave what your response to all that. My response, especially to minister Stone, is I wish the minister 10 years ago had taken the initiatives that needed to be taken to deal with the issues that we're facing today. There was a report that came out in 2015 that said about the repercussions that we've dealt with and the minister of the day ignored that report and did nothing. I will not be sitting here 10 years from now or wherever I'll be 10 years from now saying I wish that I had done something. We have to do something so that we not only have a forest industry for generations to come, we have forests for generations to come. We are looking at ensuring that we protect the oldest and the most ancient forest, the most vulnerable forest in our country, and we are working with those indigenous nations and sharing with those nations on whose traditional territories these forests lie, that sharing fair that has not been done for years, so sharing with those indigenous nations and also looking at ways that we can work with communities to ensure that they are also, and workers are also getting fair value from the forest industry, we are working with the industry, we are working with workers and communities to ensure that anybody who is affected by the forest industry is well aware of bridging to retirement, we have had many people that have come forward and said they want a bridge to retirement so that younger people can continue to work and that is working. We are looking at supports to communities that could be affected by this. We are doing considerable dollars, well over $200 million that is being spent to look at better ways that we can engage the forest industry and things like the forest industry and using them in a way that has never been used before, taking the salvage wood out of the forest and instead of leaving it there to burn, which is not good for our GHG or the environment, utilizing that in all kinds of different opportunities in the forest industry, so we are talking to a number of industries who are excited about it who can see a huge future and there is investment in the forest industry in this province and I am quite excited about it and I think it is going to be a great opportunity for us to do that. Our next question comes from Dirk Meisner, Canadian press. Hi, I think this is for Minister Farnworth, I am wondering if the adaptation strategy would in the future have anything about preventing communities from building in flood zones or people building in fire zones? One of the key components of the community emergency preparedness fund is around the ability to access funds for better flood mapping and have a more thorough understanding of the flood risk in a particular communities area. One of the things obviously that local government needs to take into account and we all need to take into account in the advent of climate change is that building in floodplown areas is clearly a hazard and what was maybe in the past viewed as a one-in-one hundred year occurrence may now well be a one-in-twenty or a one-in-fifty. So the funds that we have announced today will allow communities to do better flood preparation mapping which will of course guide them in their developments and looking at areas where they are not able where they should not be allowing certain kinds of development for example. Dirk, do you have a follow-up? Sure, this is again for Minister Farnworth. You visited Abbotsford, Princeton and Merritt, I'm wondering what you could say is being done to ensure that next time the water rises in those places that there won't be floods. What the investment around the $2.1 billion is all about is to be able to deal and recover from the damage that we have in place. Be able to build back better. All of that work is that the funding that we have in place. All of that work is that the funding in the budget is a recognition of the importance of the work and the commitment of our government to ensuring that communities are able to meet the changes of climate change, become more resilient and have in place infrastructure that will protect them into the future. Next question comes from Albert Chewy, Fairchild TV. There is a carbon tax that is going to be collected in the first of April. Will that be dedicated money or revenue to fight climate change rather than going to general revenue? First part of the question, please. Carbon tax will be increased by April 1st. Will this money be collected to fight climate change as a dedicated funding rather than going into general revenue? Next question comes from Albert Chewy. Thank you very much. We take the money from the carbon tax, we put it into general revenue, and then from there we fund the Clean BC program, we fund the climate adaptation and preparedness strategy, we fund important infrastructure for both active transportation and public transit that reduces emissions. We have $1 billion this year dedicated to Clean BC which includes supports for individuals as well as businesses to reduce emissions which is an important feature of any carbon pricing system. And over the three years previous we spent $2.3 billion. When you add that to the funds throughout ministries to reduce emissions overall, whether it's our capital program to build zero emission public infrastructure, whether it's public transit, we are spending more than we take in. Next question. The question is about the money that is used on the climate change, it seems to be a long-term, has a long-term goal. But whereas we see some imminent projects like the Richmond hospital or the Masitano can not be finished by 2021. Why are we using the money on long-term rather than on short-term? So first, I'm going to take that question. So first I think it's really important to recognize that the Richmond hospital will be completed on time. I think that's absolutely clear that that's what's going to be happening. Everything is on time. And in terms of investing in short-term and on long-term, that's been everything we've been doing since we formed government. And what we're seeing now is that we're not investing enough in hospitals. We know that that's true. And they didn't invest in climate adaptation, making sure that communities were ready. This budget is about making sure that we're ready for the future. And as my colleague, Minister Conroy said, I don't want to be 10 years from now wishing that we had invested. We're doing it now because that's what's important for British Columbians to protect them now and into the future. I'm wondering how soon can Fraser Valley residents expect significant upgrades to take place on the region's substandard dykes? Obviously we want to make sure that we are working as fast and as quickly as possible. We work very closely with the city of Abbotsford and communities in the Fraser Valley. And we want to make sure that we're able to start as soon as we can. Jo, did you have a follow-up? Yes, I'm also wondering how much of the money is going towards the funding that was announced? How much of that money is going towards existing flood protections versus new ones? So there is, within the 120 million I announced today, that's available for local governments and Indigenous First Nations to be able to access in terms of emergency preparedness funding. That can include some mitigation works. One of the examples I would use is culverts, for example. At the same time, there's the recovery money that's within my budget within EMBC that will also allow and the contingency money that has also been announced within the budget to be able to deal with repairing the dykes and getting them ready for the freshest season that we are expecting later this year. Next question is Les Lane, Times colonist. Thank you for Minister Farnworth. The federal government this morning announced a range of sanctions against Russia for the invasion of the Ukraine. Does that have any impact on provincial dealings offshore? And do provincial governments in general have any kind of move to be made in a situation like this? Obviously as a sub-national jurisdiction we would take our decision on the federal government and if the federal government puts in place sanctions or restrictions on either let's say for example contacts or trade dealings then the province would obviously abide by those decisions. Do you have a follow-up Les? I noticed in 2014 that BC government contributed in the middle of the Crimean crisis. So BC chipped in $30,000 humanitarian aid to the Ukraine. Is anything similar in the works in this situation? Obviously we would be working very closely with the federal government on any actions that they wanted us to take of a humanitarian nature. I think what we are all seeing today is an unparalleled act of naked aggression. Probably the largest scene in Europe since the Second World War. And the federal government obviously will be and has been announcing sanctions and actions that Canada will take and as a province of British Columbia we work very closely with them. But clearly I think the situation in Ukraine is a concern to all of us and the horrific act of war that is currently underway there. We have time for one more question today. We'll go to Shannon Waters, BC today. Hello. Hi there. This question is for the public safety minister. I'm curious about the modernization of the Emergency Management Act that is supposed to happen in the fall now. It's been delayed by about a year. I'm curious how confident you are that the modernization will actually happen this fall and whether you've made any changes to the process for consultations, et cetera, to ensure that, you know, say if we have another intense wildfire season, that work can still get done. We have been working extremely hard on the update or the modernization of the Emergency Program Act. There have been significant events that have occurred during the time that work has been underway, not least of which the fire season, the flood season, the heat dome, the ice, and of course COVID-19, which has impacted, you know, government across ministries. I have stated that I want to see it in place for the fall. There has been significant work underway, but and a lot of consultation and we are going to be continuing on that. What is critical is we make sure that we get it right and more importantly, that we're able to incorporate the lessons that we've learned from the over the past few years, given the unprecedented fire, flood storms, COVID situations that we have been facing. And so lessons from all of those events are going to be incorporated into the Modernized Emergency Program Act. Do you have a follow-up, Shannon? Thank you, and I'm not really sure who this is for, but I'm curious why this event has been so significant in the last few years. Are you curious why this event is being held in a venue that doesn't allow for reporters to attend in person? You know what? We've all been dealing with COVID. There have been restrictions in place. And one of the things I'm looking forward to, just like everybody else, is when we get through the COVID pandemic, we can return back to, I don't want to say normal broadcasting as soon as possible, but I think that's where all of us are going to be. Honestly, I'm not a big fan of this tight, tiny room either. Thank you very much, everyone. That concludes today's availability.