 it takes a sound can you hear that did you got my message I think I did oh yeah yeah thanks second that I actually didn't realize how serious it wasn't but it's said in the email that he's recovering at home yeah yes right until the chief comes back yeah right so totally agree that we don't do it raise it I didn't read the article because I wasn't really can all just know how that article unless others are the same reason so maybe well I know we all right given the what happened thank you because I am really interested and I actually have been having conversations with him and with everybody about about that so I might just come back and join I'll pay attention to okay so hi there's the public does anybody in turn group the site to the police department all the other work that's happened around and on fair and impartial police you know definitely interested to be here and and to learn and listen I was also just reflecting a lot since the last time about the now and and it just plays a real empathy because I've been an organizational leader whose dynamics and power dynamic and to address that and and I think that exchange that happened between Katrina and the chief and or and I think that in addition policy and and training I think part of us you know the other skill set that is needed is is that ability to be able to kind of hear hear criticism or hear concerns being brought without that defensiveness or you know with some acceptance that people are gonna have their fears and their concerns and distrust I think especially when we're talking about police relationships with with people of color you know they're just such long legacy of violence and fear that we're working to undo and and so of course that that distrust might be there and so anyway it's it's just something I was thinking about and you know for whatever it's worth just want to sort of express my you know both my empathy empathy for like how difficult it can be to be in these conversations but also just my encouragement towards you all being able to support each other and and also law enforcement officers to to be able to hear those things and know that it's not always coming from a place that's personal or to know that you could be working really hard to do the right things and some of that distrust is is still gonna be there because of the sort of generations of trauma that the people have experienced and the fears that are gonna sit with people that is you know gonna take more than than one initiative or one training to undo so again whatever that's worth I just wanted to offer that to the conversation yeah thank you very much that's good so for the people that may not know the chief was involved in a bicycle accident in New York a little over a week ago he was going down a mountain road he's actually training for a triathlon he was going down a mountain road and I'm not exactly sure what happened but he lost control of the bike and some people found him unconscious on the road and so he's got a number of injuries he's got 10 broken bones and as as he told his wife the other day you know he does have a hard head so you know he's but it did break so but he's he's gonna be just fine it's gonna take a little time to heal he's he's very sore right now but I did see him yesterday and he is up right walking so that's a good sign he's gonna have to rest a lot which is probably not in his nature so I think to have a lot of patience is it's gonna be somewhat difficult but he is doing great and I've talked to him and he's really wanting to get back to work because that is what he loves so yeah I think they're gonna have to take it as it goes he's you know he gets tired often because his bones are healing and you know everything's healing so I'm hopeful that he may be back in the office in a month but I don't know if that's gonna happen or not probably a good idea so it's right outside the the door here we were gonna do that early on in the in the presentation only because the officer that's out there with it you know has some other things to do so the public is welcome to come out and look at the everything that's on the truck and find out the purpose of it and I know we've already talked to you about what you're gonna be able to do so okay alright okay the meeting of the police commission is currently underway but the commissioners are engaged in a tour of the emergency response vehicle outside the building the meeting will resume when they return to the building the meeting of the Burlington Police Commission is currently in session but the commissioners are outside the building undertaking a tour of the emergency response vehicle the meeting will continue in this room when the commissioners return the meeting of the Burlington Police Commission is currently in session but the commissioners are outside the building participating in a tour of the department's new emergency response vehicle the meeting will resume in this room as soon as the commissioners return the meeting of the Burlington Police Commission is currently in session but the commissioners are outside the building participating in a tour of the department's new emergency response vehicle I believe they are now returning to the room so I don't have a whole lot to report on other than it was reported during the last meeting that the chief was going to attend the police executive research forum conference in Nashville about opioids and he did and they developed a 10 standards of care policing in the opioid crisis this is available on our website under our transparency portal under reports basically just going over what what the 10 best strategies are best practices for the opioid crisis so this was a nationwide group you know everyone's trying to deal with this issue and you know as far as I'm concerned Burlington and the police department at the forefront of trying to determine what the best practices are so if you interested in looking at that that's where it is right yeah every three to four weeks is it three three weeks they meet and you know there's an entire group of people I don't know if you guys are aware of what it is you know basically every every service that is available to us that opioids hits which is pretty much everything is present and determining you know what each one of those agencies can do to help and what the best practices are and they bring people in from from out of the state that are trying to do new things or trying to do different things you know throwing stuff against the wall to determine what sticks and and you know if they try something and it fails at least they can say that they tried so that's where everyone is right now but you know I think our our chief really has a good handle on what's happening and and how to deal with it sometimes some of the things that he recommends aren't aren't looked at very well by some of the services because it's against their nature you know but but this is a crisis and we're trying to deal with whatever with this how we can and to keep an open mind is probably the most important part I think one of the organizations that came in was there was a health organization I think from Massachusetts right well it kind of goes against the grain for anybody to share information especially in the health care business because of HIPAA regulations you know so when you try to work around that you want to have the best care for the patient but you also want to have to give them privacy as well so it kind of goes against each other but you know is as we've seen in law enforcement over the last probably five years you know we have really embraced a lot of things that I never thought that we would over the years and we've had to look at things differently and as much as we don't like some things we understand that this is the way this is the way that society is headed and this is what people want so if it works it works and we're going to be okay with that the other thing is just an update on deputy Burke he he has two days left his last days July 6th we are in the process of taking applications for deputy chief a nationwide and developing that process so we're hoping by the week of July 9th to get that started we're also losing two lieutenants so the historical value that we are losing from this agency is huge but you know I'm sure that that we're going to find some sergeants in our ranks that are really going to be in a well-placed to to take their place other than that's about all the updates I have lieutenant Brad Trombly and lieutenant Dennis Duffy they're both retiring oh yeah they have all of them have earned it I just had a question is if we could go to these meetings who should we contact in order to go to these the meetings where the groups get together community stat you can contact Laura Cheney and she can set you up for the most part it's not a public meeting no no the chief explains it said it wasn't but we could go yeah Laura has set out some information saying this is the time yeah okay yeah there is tomorrow or Thursday Wednesday oh no Thursday sir off a day yeah one is for our parking enforcement Dana specifically just for hospitality somebody's child was graduating from college and they heard that parking would be horrible but Dana gave him a map and talked him through it and she was just on by her kindness one was about me I don't have to read files in recruitment and one was thanking us for our partnership with the marathon and they just thought it was the smoothest recent years and they think Brown to put on a show for the runners about our security it was great this is my last meeting as chair but whatever the process is I think both given some thought to but I do want to say that I've been really happy to have the opportunity to serve both as vice chair and chair thank you all for your service you know I have a lot of respect for all of you and Chief Del Pozo I'll still be around they'll probably show up and I might still do a couple of things with Clare but I'm actually launching a kind of like a reentry from that I'll probably tell you about because there's a way that point to police department department with us it's just gonna be a little bit more like employment stuff supporting people that return and it's connected to Clare but I did just really want to say that I've been really happy to serve I've been learning a lot of things hasn't been easy but I've been really grateful for opportunity so well you'll be missed but we're gonna we're gonna not let you do anything with that so I mean I'm not really sure unless anybody else is interested and then I think I don't know I think there's a piece of it that we have to make sure that they're okay with that I mean I think since you guys are early on and it's just like a switchover it's probably not that big of a deal that somebody should be committed to so if someone should bring a motion that well I make a motion that Michelle ashes our next chair and that's and then you're staying on his vice chair right big shoes to fill I said yes as long as Sharim is going to be vice chair yeah yeah that's awesome well I'm looking forward to serving on the police commission I've been attending a couple meetings now and I'm excited to learn what's going on and you know take a period to learn observe and follow you guys's lead and see what happens and I'm looking forward to some things that we can do and some you know ways to make the to help contribute to the civic functioning of the city as as Christine said because that's how we communicate is it's early to the VT.gov email okay that be through Lori as well or yeah it's so chief right can get you connected with that because and then I can send you some stuff on it open meeting laws that we never meet more than less than a forum I should say I'm looking forward to all the information I can give me I'm happy to read it absorb it you know we can always meet a couple meet with you before the next meeting to talk about process which I did it was great as a new yeah thank you I have a question were we gonna get incident reports again yes okay it's been a little busy yeah I know last person standing yeah I apologize for that no no it's we get through this period and we can resume which actually that leads into number 10 so when we get there yeah yes I served all the copies of the final I guess I the amendment to all parties there was a question from from the deceased dog owners that I I think I conveyed to the attorney but I don't think that that's going to be addressed and as far as the other neighbor they didn't have any issues they had not had any issues with the dog since this issue but I did want to want to put you on notice that there may be another hearing coming away for another incident I'm waiting for the city attorney's office so I just want to give you that heads up well now we are a well-oiled machine yes different situation yeah so there's other we were the second committee there's actually a committee to hear that Jim you're on that who else is on that okay so it's not necessarily no I see got it I mean I wonder I mean I guess I've always wanted okay okay so okay just as that so that done now that the dog is there some period of appeal possible or there is an appeal time period you know who knows if anything's going to happen I think it's what 30 days did you remember so 30 days from the service if we hadn't heard anything then it's over one was it when was it handed down what is today's 26th around the first week or around in there so they week to you yeah approximately yes so deputy chief right and I are meeting on July 5th to start that process the hope is that by the July meeting we'll have a draft great yeah so hopefully we'll have the data by July 5th but if not we'll know what we need to track down yep I'll second is so we're just do the July 24th I mean I guess we don't need executive session yeah second oh yeah now we move to adjourn I second hi thank you That was, yeah, please give it.