 Welcome back to the Sportsmax Zone. We are turning our attention now to the sport they call the Sweet Science. International level boxing will make a grand return to Jamaica with the staging of Rumble in the Sun at the National Indoor Sports Center in Kingston on the 11th of November. The main event on the card will set two former heavyweight champions Donovan Razor Ruddock and James Leitzau Tony squaring off in what promises to be an exciting counter. I should say that although James Tony had won a world heavyweight title he was a middleweight champion, super middleweight champion, light heavyweight champion, cruiserweight champion, who is a champion in five different weight classes and joining us on set organizer of the fight card, CEO of Red Ground Productions Cleopatra Ruddock and one of the contenders Donovan Razor Ruddock. Welcome Donovan and your daughter Cleopatra on the Sportsmax Zone. Really really great to have you. Thank you. I just introduced you there in the way that the ring announcers would. Michael Buffer and Jimmy Lennon Jr. some of those guys as ring announcers. Which ring announcer gave you the most vibe as you were about to fight? I've been honest with you. At that time I'm not even hearing them. I don't hear anyone then. Especially your Mike Tyson fights because you boxed him twice. I didn't hear anything anyone said after I got in the ring and I'm ready to engage. I don't hear no one. Yes I understand. It's a matter of focus. We're going to talk a little about your career a little later on or the prime part of your career because you're coasting now and you're getting ready for an exhibition about against James Light South Tony. But this is an initiative Cleopatra and Donovan to boost boxing in Jamaica, which is the native country for both of you and a country that has produced outstanding boxes in the past. World champions and so on. What triggered this move? Cleopatra, let me start with you. Well we visited my dad's hometown Red Ground and he went to see his primary school and we saw that there was a need there and they needed a lot of resources for innovations of the infrastructure. So they were at the point where they were over full with students and they had to actually turn away students. So my dad was just like looking at it and we were saying like how can we help? How can we be of service to the community? And then while we were on that same trip we visited all the different gyms in Kingston and we saw the same thing and we were just saying like okay let's partner with the Jamaican Boxing Board. We've been watching them with their gloves over guns initiative their youth development program and we said well it's inevitable that my dad's going to get back in the ring. Why not make an impact while doing so? So it's been about 50 years so we said Jamaica he hasn't fought there let's do it. Yeah you said 50 years since international high-level heavyweight boxing I guess you'd be referencing the Alif the four-month Fraser fight back in January 1972 when Foreman knocked Fraser down six times and took the heavyweight title away from him. I know I know he was awesome. That was a scary bout. I was probably 10 or 11 years old at the time didn't didn't see it but I knew people who went to the bout and when they came back early I said what are you doing back already the fight lasted less than two rounds so it was it was tough but Fraser you since your migration from Jamaica to grow up in Canada you've achieved a lot in the sport. Talk to us a little about your your your Jamaica experience because you were telling me off here that you used to beat up some guys at school and maybe that's where your boxing started or you didn't want me to say that. No that's okay because it's reality. I was born to fight so when I used to go to a primary school I used to just fight for fun so a lot of the kids they got upset with me one day about five of them were following me home right to beat me up but I'm listening to them talking behind me walking behind me and they're going to beat me up but they waited too long before I get to my house I was just right there so I ran to my house and I was so bad that I had a stack pile of rocks in front of my gate too because that's what our neighborhood was and we started Stonewall and one guy got hit and almost got so the cops came for me when I was young when I was like 11 years old for real oh 11 so I was scared at that time I was trying to get to my father because he was at the field and I couldn't get there so they took me down to Old Harbor and they you know my father come and get me I was about 11 years old. This is the Old Harbor police station. Yeah Old Harbor police station. So you're in big trouble as an 11 year old because it was a rock the guy who got hit with the rock was not even in the fight he just what's going on and the rock caught me and I couldn't so anyways they brought me down there I was young and everything like that and the situators now let's just jump to Canada now I got to Canada and we're in class and we're going out to play ball and these kids are alienating me because I just come from Canada Jamaica and I said whoa whoa whoa whoa we're going to play soccer we're going to fight which 21 did you did you get in trouble for that oh no no no we played they played with me okay that's what I mean but they didn't like it hey so they came to my house they know where I live in um in Toronto and they came to my house where I'm playing Marabran about five of them came to my house to beat me up so I said I remember I got in trouble in Jamaica right so I said I'm not going to do that now so I said the biggest guy tell you what we're going to do I'm going to show you what I'm going to do to all of you okay five of you let's make a ring and put the biggest guy in there and I'll take him so we did that hey and the guy was his nose was real straight and I'm just and my target is that yes the nose so is I'm we went in the ring and I'm looking at him look at him I look at him and he bam his nose just splattered all over his face and I've never seen him again they took him up walk him out on um to his home and I haven't seen him again how old were you then oh I just got to carry I was about 12 years old wow so you I you're you're a born fighter I love to fight yeah are you Cleopatra your dad you know box some of the greats in world boxing Mike Tyson Lennox Lewis and so on lost to them though but did beat fighters like Greg Page and Michael Dokes were big world heavyweight contenders at the time um what's the thinking behind James Tony as the opponent for this exhibition about coming up on the 11th of November how did he become available well a lot of the legends were dodging my dad and dodging him yeah dodging him so we had tentatives yes and then when it came time they had someone scout him out and say oh no he may be at this age but he's in great shape but James Tony he's a Hall of Famer and I know my dad is looking for someone who's gonna actually take this serious and put on a great show and compete yeah um James Tony is 55 years old razor is 59 years old yes your eyebrows just raised you didn't know he was 55 actually I don't really care because I don't know I don't really watch age because after I I test out my age because I was living in Jamaica and Stone Hill right and I am I test out my age with a guy named powerhouse up there okay I look my age one yes so I realized that age you don't have anything to do with it how old were you when you tested powerhouse I was I was 49 and he was old 22 20 and you beat him up I beat everybody 22 23 or any age yeah okay so so so James lights old Tony is in trouble on for the 11th of November I'm telling you the truth I can't hit James with my with all my shots yes because it would hurt him yeah but the fact is I remember watching the exhibition about between Mike Tyson and Roy Jones Roy Jones a couple of years ago and it was disappointing it did appear to me as if Tyson didn't really want to hit Jones too too heavily and this matchup is similar because Tyson is a genuine heavyweight and Roy Jones was a super middleweight turn light heavyweight and James Tony is similar here so are we going to see a cagey exhibition about or do you want to hurt the young chap listen I never really go in there to hurt people until they start talking but I'm looking forward to test my skills against James because James is fast so it's not about knocking him out or anything I just want to see how fast he is or if he can touch me if he can even hit me okay me knocking him out I know I can do that yes okay you know you can do that yeah I know I can do that I'm one of your strengths as a heavyweight was there was your speed you had punching power we know that but one of your dad's strong points Cleopatra was his speed as a heavyweight not many heavyweights are as quick as Donovan Razorudek was so I think if you look at the matchup between James Tony and Razorudek coming up on the 11th of November in Kingston it could be a matchup of speed because Tony is also speedy that's what I'm looking forward to I want to see if he's fast enough to touch me I'm being honest yes because I know James is fast yes but I have I changed my style of training for the last 10 years it's a different style now I have a cross between karate and boxing yes yes it's lethal okay I can't use all of it and and James yes but I want to see if he can touch me yes that that that's all I want to see if he can even hit me one time yeah all right we're going to go to the break now Cleopatra and Donovan Razorudek but before we do I just want to show our viewers something Mike Tyson said about Donovan Razorudek after he fought him because he's he never knew he punched so hard Tyson said he punches like a mule kicks oh my god he punches so hard a couple of times he hurt me but my chin is like concrete nothing can stop me now this was prime time Mike Tyson talking after a brutal bout with Donovan Razorudek who is our guest here with his daughter Cleopatra when we come back from the break we talk a little bit more about Donovan Razorudek's career and his upcoming exhibition bout with James lights out Tony the 11th of November in Kingston Jamaica back after this Donovan we're talking boxing here and we have two very very special guests in the studio for more world heavyweight champ Donovan Razorudek and his daughter Cleopatra Rudek and they are talking to us about the Rumble in the Sun which is an exhibition main card bout between Donovan Razorudek and James lights out Tony coming up on the 11th of November in Kingston Jamaica at the national indoor sports complex and Cleopatra is CEO of the promoting company for this event and she also played soccer collegiate soccer for the United States and represented Jamaica in under 19 football yes in in in in the past yes so um you you you're a sporting daughter of this big international heavyweight champ yes grew up with sports I love sports um Muhammad Ali and Joe Fraser had daughters who boxed you were you were tempted to box like your dad no but when we were living in um when we're living in Jamaica when I was younger football was like the biggest thing so you know I just yeah I picked I picked it up at that and I just loved it loved being on the on plane and playing and raise the prayers that if he wanted to say something just know when I suggested that I was saying I was saying Ali daughter she um uh Leila Ali Leila Ali she fought on my first fight was that my my my card with um uh Jose Robalta Jose Robalta who you beat yes you beat Robalta he was a tall tall guy yeah yeah he went 12 with Tyson also yes yeah yeah he did I I remember that and then he was talking though yeah he was talking to yeah and that gets you upset so I don't really get me upset I don't have to prove to him that stop dogged so if James Tony arrives in Jamaica and starts to talk about beating up on Donovan raise a rock um that would that wouldn't be a good idea for him with it no it's better he just comes and be humble and calm and and and and there's some acting like he did because he played Joe Fraser in the Muhammad Ali movie we did which Will Smith starred in yeah yeah James Tony played Joe Fraser in that movie listen he's a tough kid I know he is I'm not taking away nothing from him but I'm talking to you after 50 years of fighting and listen to the way I'm talking to you yes that means I don't get hit yes and and it's and I don't his power is not close to Tyson yes you understand Lennox Lewis aren't any of those and those are big big eaters okay and I am a little so anyway I'm not worried too much about that I don't want to look like I'm over confident yes three years over confident but I'm confident in what I do but he is a quality fighter Cleopatra because he as I said won world titles at middleweight super middleweight light heavyweight cruiser weight and heavyweight and he was one of only three boxes who had beaten Jamaica's Mike McCallum yes yeah no I'm not taking away nothing from him yeah but I I understand boxing and I know what it takes to win yeah your last professional fight was back in 2015 yeah his last professional fight was back in 2017 yeah that's what I'm saying so maybe he's he's more aligned to being ready than you are no no why do you say that yeah can you look at me and tell you'd have to take your shirt off if I take a shirt off I don't know what I don't want I don't want Tony to see me out shirt off you may back out of the fight I don't want nobody to see if he sees the I don't want nobody to see me until it's time to see me yeah that's why we're these clothes yeah but you know what James Tony I don't want to pour cold water on this but the last time he fought he was 249 pounds as a pro yeah his last bout he was was he was he overweight obviously yes because his body frame is that of a middleweight he looked fat does he look did he look fat yes he did to me yeah so why you brought her up because I am trying to repair you for the opposition that you will face what what what he's been trying he's trying to know I know but he's heavy I'm saying that although he's a genuine middleweight body frame person yeah he has put on bulk over the years and carried it well enough to win a world not it wasn't an WB or IBF or WBC title was one of those IBO or WB something titles you know the alphabet soup so it wasn't a major world title but he didn't win a world heavyweight title which suggests that um he could handle himself at that weight listen what's your what's your weight at the moment my weight yes I'm going to tell you after I finish tell you what I was saying yes you obviously we have to respect to him stony okay you've been in the game for a long time and I'm not going to underestimate him okay I'm not going to underestimate myself right now I'm weighing 250 250 yeah and I'm telling you yeah it's a different 250 from any other 250 yeah and you're 62 63 63 and James James stony is about about 510 511 511 yes Tyson height Tyson's height okay you scared Tyson when you fought him he admitted after the fight that there were moments in the fight that he felt threatened by your power my my power right now yeah it's five times as much as Tyson I know you probably don't believe it but that can't be oh I know you probably said that you mean five times as much as Tyson now no five times as much as I had back in the days oh your power now is five times more than it was in 91 when you fought Tyson but how could we believe that I probably don't believe it but if I let you feel clear do you believe your dad he's been training for almost 15 years so 15 years yeah if I let you if I let you feel my shoulder I feel his shoulder if I let you feel my shoulder you realize you say okay so why aren't you still boxing then I am still boxing no I mean four world titles I am listen first of all the reason why I'm doing this right now yes it's to introduce myself to the younger generation because apparently they don't know who I am yes but they should they need to read the boxing history and when I was in Canada they betrayed me because if you look at my last fight is a rabbit they can't hit me so they go behind my back I hit me in the back of my head okay take a look at it okay yes all of them that I lost they have to cheat okay yes they hit me rabbit punch me and get so I come to Jamaica to start fresh yes boxing in front of my own family yeah and I'm people because I never fight in Jamaica before we are all anxious to see you uh Cleo um tell the viewers why they should come to watch James lights out Tony take on your dad your dad Donovan raised a product on the 11th of November well it's going to be a legendary match you have two legends going facing off that have contributed tremendously to the sport of boxing they have cementing themselves in the the sport as well and they both are very talented and in great shape at this moment right now and it's going to be epic it's going to be epic to see the art of boxing look how well he's speaking right now he and I know everyone sees him running around the road downtown and they're both taking it very serious dedicated to what we're doing and the cause and they want to put on a show because overall we want this to be an annual thing so we can continue to help the sport build here in Jamaica so that's why we got to make sure that we we put on a show Cleopatra thanks for your presence here on the Sportsmax own daughter of Donovan raised a product who fought Mike Tyson and Lennox Lewis and beat big names in world boxing like James Bonecrusher Smith Greg Page Michael Dawkes Jose Rebalter and he will be fighting in Jamaica on the 11th of November at the National Indoor Sports Center and uh that will be up against James lights out Tony the American who is challenging him in an exhibition bout and uh Rudd promises power and class thanks for joining us on the show you're welcome back with more of the Sportsmax zone after this