 What's up guys welcome back to sequence. I'm your host Trevor Plouffe and we are back for a bat number two with V-Man Christian Jelic. We just talked a ton about drills, how to how to bring drills in the cage into the game, what that means. Sometimes it translates, sometimes it doesn't. You had your drill it translated, you became the MVP. Now we're back in the 2019 season against the Cardinals again who clearly you just have an affinity for and I know sometimes you just feel that way against the team. Is that do you feel that way against the Cardinals? I don't know I think it's more just like when you catch teams during the season like when you're just locked in and just on fire and just it just happened to line up with them last year and yeah it just it's hard to it's like I remember before this series started I was not hitting I was not doing well and then got locked back in I think it was I think it was the day before this game actually but yeah that's just just how it worked out but they're usually a really tough staff to face they always have really good pitching and whenever Yachty's back there it's it's a never and easy at bat no matter how good you're feeling because you just he just knows so much he's such a smart catcher and player it's always challenging it's just how it worked out sometimes that's I love that kind of matchup when you have a good catcher you know I love it you're a good hitter he knows you because you guys play each other all the time it's that perfect chess match and you guys kind of got to go back and forth the pitcher has to execute obviously you have to execute but Yachty knows and yeah he said he's so smart he knows your swing he knows where he can go to have a better chance to get you out but then if you make an adjustment to counter that then you know it's not going to work in his favor and vice versa so I love all these duels and we're going to see that on this at bat I watched this earlier today and this is a this is a great at bat this guy uh Ryan Helsley you're seeing it on the screen right now he's making his major league debut the first batter he ever faces in the big leagues is the reigning NL MVP so tough tough debut for him but it starts out pretty good I want to I want to go straight into the at bat here because the first pitch is nasty let's click it right well end up before we go into is like but this is his debut so like I've never faced him or seen him throw ever you know what I mean maybe in a hitters meeting or you get the sheet so like what does this guy have and his sheet is it tells you you know his Velo is 98 to a hunch so you're like okay that's that catches your eye right away you're like great all right this guy this guy has the potential to grab double zero so you know that is his debut so he's going to be juiced you know that and then if he's got a good off speed pitch like it'll tell you slider change it but you've never seen it or what it does or what it looks like so I always think that in this situation you're you're at a pretty good disadvantage as a hitter until you can kind of start collecting some information as far as video or pass that bats against them you'll see here in a second but he's about a he's about a one to the plate and that's that's really tough as a hitter too when like when a guy can throw that hard and be that quick to the plate yeah yeah well it's just like he's throwing a hundred and then it's like he can come from checking a guy at second base and then next thing you know we're going forward and it's coming out hot and so I didn't know he was that quick to the play at the time so this pitch I don't know he's I don't know he's that quick because this is his first pitch in the big leagues and I've never seen it before and so all I got in my mind is hundred slider change it I love that because it's so true you have to have it bats against the guy to go up there and really have a plan you can watch right and you don't want to and you don't want to ever be anybody's first punch out in the big leagues ever like I don't ever want to be on any I'm on plenty of them but I don't ever want to be on somebody's in somebody's trophy case and yeah you'd be a great trophy for him too he's probably like all right this is a pretty good candidate to get put you in his trophy case too because I mean when you're throwing a hundred with a slider and nasty change that has first punchy in the show being the first batter all over it and like I know that too I'm like because I remember I asked I asked Yachty before when I go up to the plate right here I asked Yachty this guy it's his debut right and Yachty said yeah he shakes his head and I'm like all right well let's let's do this and I love yeah he's got it he's gonna be juice typically when I think of a guy that's making his debut and he's a reliever you're gonna have extra heat on your fastball maybe you're for sure but but also maybe shaky command of your off speed maybe shaky command in general I guess he it goes differs by guy but that's kind of what I'm thinking with young guys he's gonna have that extra juice may not know how to control it so you really got to get him in the zone is that something that you would say too yeah and I was like all right like this guy is this guy's first pitch in the big leagues so like sometimes you should take it because I throw that ball out a lot of the time you know like oh this is your first pitch in the show and I don't know if it's I don't know how you how do you feel about that but I'm always like ah you know maybe I should you want a nice clean ball for him to put in this case well clearly not because I swung with the first pitch here but I was like no this guy throws this guy's got too good of stuff to be spotting anybody anything here and I thought honestly that he was coming out of the gates trying to like I thought he was gonna come out of the gates trying to establish like I throw a hundred and let's get it on and this is the big leagues right here so I was geared up for that I guess you could say and it definitely wasn't a hundred out of the gate well that's yeah let's get to it see that first pitch get back on it and here we go uh-oh here we go making his debut that one cheese you have to scouting for you know he throws hard you gotta be thinking heater here first pitch these I would be thinking yeah I thought so too and I was like okay here we go and I'm just tall right now too a little taller right good slider good slider that came out okay right so I was like okay like that's that's pretty good and I remember thinking like damn also that was a good pitch and like holy shit am I late right now you're laying I didn't I guess I didn't pay attention you were a little late on the $89 slider I love that well not in a sense if I hated I probably would have but like as far as like decision-making process of like usually seeing differentiating fastball slider and I was late I remember that happening no I was really good I was like okay like all right we're in this now you know like that was kind of my my thought of all right this is for real and I pointed out that I was a little taller in that first pitch there because as this goes on you know I was kind of more I wasn't a walkout bat and that's where I am the majority of the time but like I said he's so quick to the plate that sometimes as a hitter you have to make you have to make adjustments and for me I was like okay this guy's a slide step one to the plate so for me I got a little bit more spread out almost like the drill we were talking about like a little bit more spread out on my backside more and it was just like I kind of instead of doing my leg kick it was more of a hover like I kind of would pick it up and like almost hover and just kind of slide it out so I can put it down if I needed to because he was throwing so hard it's kind of like a moose thing right there moose is a hoverer like that keeps it really close right it was yeah it was almost like moose but I had to do that because you know if it's a hundred so you got to be able to get to that at some point did you that was on the scouting report like you knew going into that bat like this guy's one to the plate got a you know I didn't know he was a one that's why I was I was tall like that and then I told you I got my I was like wow I got my I just got my I just got my doors blown right here and like I saw how much of a slide step guy he was and then it just evolved over the course of this bat so yeah those are good pitch it's yo one and you kind of go anywhere here like you said yachty smart so if I'm hitting I'm like well I just was I don't know what this guy's pitch does I just swung through it wasn't really on time to it it might come again yeah you're really behind eight ball here because you did by swinging at that pitch you just opened yourself up to any pretty much every yeah anything he comes at you with right now is and you got a hundred that's a good pitch you know that's you still got that right haven't seen that yet so right you've got two pitches that you still haven't seen yet all right second pitch and he comes back with the same pitch right a little bit more inside right that was a little bit more of a like on my head pitch right there and he did a really good job of executing it sure and now you're in the hole you know you're o2 like damn you've only seen you haven't seen anything but a slider your o2 right and you're like damn I'm about to be in this dude's trophy case right now he's got a hunch those are two pretty good sliders and I think he's got to change up to are you are you when you get the two strikes are you always spreading out a little bit more or does it depend on the pitcher a guy that you're comfortable against or as like a guy it depends on all those things and how I'm feeling at the plate too you know I go through phases throughout the season and this one was more of probably an exaggeration than any other time because of all the things we talked about like he's so quick to the plate he's got really good shit and I'm just you know not wanting to be on the mantle right now really like really bad like that's why I'm like okay here let's figure in the south all right here we go o2 pitch only seen slider so far and that is a change up that was a slider same pitch like a uh yeah just a buried slider same pitch and I'm kind of almost leaking I'm kind of almost leaking out on this a little bit like I'm in the bucket a little bit on here I think it's because like I don't really know what to do because I'm trying to figure it out on the trying to figure all this out on the rungs I've never I've never faced them and yeah I was like damn I'm in the bucket and you still like I said you still know he's got a hundred and ten he's got his his change up to yeah one two pitch oh baby right I started feeling more comfortable okay that's a good take right I started feeling more comfortable because that was now that's the fourth one I've seen in a row so you like you have an idea of what this looks like in the shape and it's the only thing I've seen you know and taking that after I took that one I kind of figured they probably weren't going to come back with another one because then it would be five in a row and I just took a good one but the thing is here is like it's the yachty factor like if anybody's going to throw a slider in a row right here it's him like for real though he he would do something like that even if you saw you take it like that because that was a really good take you're balanced you know it was just off and it looked like you saw it really well and like you said it was a fourth time but you're saying yachty you kind of I say I don't think it I don't think it was likely like I I would I would definitely think in okay here's now we're going to see fastball change up but I didn't come I haven't completely eliminated the slider here because if anybody's going to do something like that it's going to be yachty and it's for sure his call because this guy is it's his debut so anything that yachty puts down it's a yes yes that's that one you know and so I didn't completely write it off I felt better about being able to to take it though like being able to lay off the the one I'm supposed to take and be able to swing it the one I'm supposed to swing at now because that's the fourth one I've seen yeah this guy's nasty so yeah he's got really good stuff all right two two four sliders in a row you just laid off a good one and your head you're saying heater it's likely yeah something other than slider you're right heater and that's a fish okay go ahead yeah it was a good swing too like I found it straight back it probably got on me a little bit because the first time I saw him but uh you know if he executes that one away right there I'm probably punching because I'm kind of flying out on this a little bit like see everything's gone I'm in the bike it's not really I see that I see you know it's going really quick here and it's something that I probably wouldn't like like I don't really like that see if he executes this pitch away like yachty knows right here because he's pounding me in with almost cutters they're 92 91 mile an hour sliders it's almost a cut but I think I just subconsciously did that because I'm trying to go fast right and if he executes this yeah if he gets this ball away then either I'm gonna roll it over most likely or miss it yeah and when you do that it ball looks like it's a million miles away if your hip is open right yeah I probably take it as a punch or I swing it most but uh yeah I thought it was straight back it's a good swing but yeah kind of smoke the empire a little bit right there Yachty's giving him some time Yachty's gear is just so show too so sick he's the he's the best man oh that guy yachty yeah got two both of them okay so what are you thinking here two two four sliders one fastball like did you have a lean in one on one pitch or are you saying I just kind of got a battle now and I was going pretty good at this time um you know I think I didn't think I was going to see another heater because I found that one straight back and felt like I was right on it um even though like I probably this probably isn't my best mechanical at bat or you know to Yachty I was I'd fouled a $99 fastball straight back the first time I saw it like you know maybe they maybe you come back with it but I was like uh I was kind of thinking potential for the third pitch here or um going back to the slider okay let's run it Yachty's like all right what do I got now what do I got two two yep he went back to it but that one yeah that one wasn't a slider it kind of backed up on him it was one of those um spinner like I didn't that ball didn't move at all you know kind of just spun up there and oh I didn't watch that again I that that's really it's honestly not even really I didn't really think I did anything on this I think the put pitch kind of dictated it you know you know sometimes when you like catch a slider out front or you kind of just they hit a homer for you in a sense like that's what happened here because um he sped me up with that fastball and then 91 mile an hour slider like basically throws it into your barrel in a sense for a homer um just kind of did it it didn't move it didn't have the same bite as those those other four did it backed up on them um I remember just like the feeling of just catching it like out front on the barrel and just being I was out front of it for sure like I swung at it kind of like it was a heater but uh just the the the bat path was good enough to where I caught it in the in the sweet spot zone for 27 yeah when you hit those balls you don't really feel them yeah you know it's a homer right away and then brawny gets his ticket punch for the trophy case is that oh good for you brawny we don't want brawny right now we want to see some highlights let's see if I can get it I might not have it we'll have to have the editors do it in post here oh here we go and that one's a better swing I'm not I'm not really bailing out as much there and you can kind of see the slide from that back view it's different than my little leg kick um let's see that oh yeah yeah big time you know and it just allows you to get your foot down and you got to see that's that is the stuff right there that I love that that you've kind of been showcasing on this show is that those little adjustments that you made in that bat you didn't know he was a one he comes he's quick to the plate you have to make an adjustment so you do you make an adjustment and it pays off for you later in the bat you're on time you catch it you barrel it and it's gone and this is coming from a guy who you know won the mvp doesn't a lot of people would say he doesn't have to change anything just continue to do what you're doing but in the game of baseball as a hitter you got to make those adjustments yeah you're changing all the time and I think there's that there's some sort of saying in in baseball right where like the higher you go the adjustments become quicker or it starts from game to game then it goes at bat to at bat and then it becomes eventually pitch to pitch and that's kind of when you get to the higher levels or you want to perform at a high level in the big leagues that you have to be able to do that stuff and it doesn't always work out like this it doesn't work out in your favor but you're finding ways to give yourself a chance I guess you could say to be successful more times than not a lot of the times I guess statistically most of the time it doesn't work out in your favor but we don't need it to you know no we don't well I appreciate you coming on you're one of the best hitters in the world you're a guy that can do it pitch by pitch you can make those adjustments pitch by pitch and I appreciate you just letting us get into your head a little bit because that was awesome and I hope anybody out there that's watching can take something from this and get a little bit better because that's kind of what we're trying to do here of course man thanks for having me I really enjoyed it all right yeah thank you so much bro