 Taylor told us that we need to do like something for Easter like an Easter egg hunt or something. It is. It is. What do you mean? No, he wants us to do like some something fun and engaging with our audience. So he says like an Easter. Easter? Yes. He wants to do some sort of an Easter egg hunt. I love. Oh. I'm just gonna, I say we just let him run it and be in control of it because I, I Well, how are they gonna get? What do you mean Easter egg hunt? I try to wrap my brain around it. I just don't have and he's just like, no, don't you get it? He's trying to explain to me. I'm like, oh, he said, oh, he's saying the Instagram page. Yeah. Yeah. That's what he said. Yeah. He's going to go. So there's going to be, oh, so you know what Easter eggs are? Did you guys know this? Yeah, you did. I'm sure you did. I'm the fucking guy that never knows a shit. Easter eggs are like little hidden things on movies and video games. Right? Yeah. Isn't that what that is? Oh, yeah. That's what they call it. Yeah. And like there's whole channels like devoted to finding these little Easter eggs that you go back and like, oh, wow, like the director or, you know, whoever put like all this imagery in the background. So nobody would pick up on it. Here's a fun fact. Fight Club. You guys are watching the guys like Fight Club. Yeah. Do you know that there's a lot of scenes where there's a flash of, what's his name? Brad Pitt? Mm-hmm. That character he plays? Yeah. Just flashes like very. So when you go back, you start to recognize it. When you go back, you see it and you're like, and you look back and like, oh, fuck, there he is. It's like Momento. Yeah. That was another movie I got for me. That's a crazy. Okay. So what's going on now? There's going to be Easter egg hunt on our Instagram page. Yeah. So he's going to do a, on Mind Pump Media. So if you go to the Instagram Mind Pump Media, every day he said he's going to do like a, he's going to have two eggs, I guess, and he's going to give away stuff. But they have to see it on the story in order to get it. So I don't know how he's going to. So it's the Instagram story. Yeah. The video one. Yeah. So you have to. And it's every day new eggs? Or is it all on one day? No. Every day he said he's going to do two different eggs. And he's going to surprise us and them, obviously everybody, with what is going to be in the Easter egg. And there's going to be, he's going to give away something. Like he's all just, and he doesn't want to tell us because he says it'll be more natural for us to do it with him if he just says, listen, just trust me, we're going to give away some cool stuff. You know what's funny? Like, I'm getting excited. I'm excited. I want to open these. What's this one? I'm not even talking. What is Motherfucker doing? That's all I wanted to know. I'm like, ooh, ooh. Is he going to give away chocolate? It's so exciting. Chocolate. So every day leading up to Easter. What is it? Easter day. I guess most obviously most people won't. Easter. Easter day. Easter Sunday. Today is Easter day. Most people will be with their family. So he said starting on Thursday. So when this episode goes live, because this goes live for today, right? Yeah. Okay. So today, today, so it should be there now, right? So should we go there now? This is so funny because we're saying it before, right? So today, if you go on to the Instagram, mine pump media page, follow that page, and then watch the Insta story. The Insta story. A lot of people don't know this. All you got to do is click on the icon on the top left. Yeah. And you'll see like a short video. I just learned how to use it the other day. He's so good. I'm so advanced. Yeah. So happy Easter and happy hunting for the Easter eggs. Look forward to. I'll be on there watching too. Hopefully if he's smart because he works for us, he'll actually give me something too. So otherwise. Hand job. Yeah. Yeah. I wonder how he's going to give that Easter egg. He didn't like that comment. Yeah. Taylor gives. Taylor gets thrown in the mix. Hey, let's go. Because we don't give a fuck. T-dog. We love you. No. You can't do that. No, you get used to that on there. Oh, you immortalized them. Justin and I agreed. Man. If you're lucky, you can. You know what? Our mind pump mafia, they'll be able to come up with a better nickname. I'm pretty certain of it. T-dog. Remember? Because I mean, Doug, he was. He was a backpack. The funny. Use the spinner. What else we got? The chimp. The walking terrorist. The chimp. Yeah. Spinner. The funny part was that you and I were making fun of. Angry chimp. We were making fun of Sal for calling him such a terrible name. Yeah. And that's going to turn on a backfire on poor. Funny. T-dog. You know what I'm saying? Dude, that's so good. Imagine your boy, you know, like you're. You're waiting for a wedding. Waited ninja. Your best man. There you go. T-dog. Last. Sal. Can he tell us a little bit about Adam there? Go way back. We go way back. My friend T-dog. We're boys. You know, I'm sure you've known him for a while. That sounds like a good name. Your mom didn't call you that. Sal said this to Taylor over the weekend. Some clever guy. When we went to LA and Justin and I instantly burst it out laughing. I couldn't help it. We were three hours. Oh, we did. Justin did all these great fucking rants afterwards too. Making fun of Sal for even giving someone a terrible nickname like that. And then he keeps saying it. So now he's like, you know what? We're going to make it that. And I'm like, yeah. Like this is not. Poor Taylor is going to have to suffer through this awful nickname. That's how it came up with. It's so old. It's like on a Seinfeld episode. So make sure. That's who will actually be giving you guys Easter eggs. So make sure to thank T-dog guys. Thank T-dog. Big ups to T-dog. So mind pump media. They go on the video part, right? And look for the Easter eggs. Happy Easter. If you want to pump your body and expand your mind. There's only one place to go. Mind pump. Mind pump with your hosts. Sal DiStefano, Adam Schaefer and Justin Andrews. He's a good. He's a good. Hey, that's crazy right now. What's crazy right now? Well, it's not right now. It's just crazy. There's no time. It has to be crazy. You can't say that word. This is why this is weird, right? Today's Wednesday. When do we fly back into town? When do we get back into town? Sunday? Yeah. Sunday, right? What? When we were in LA, Justin, remember? I steal. I steal. I steal. I steal. Everybody got it. You know what? I'm getting worse. The more people who make fun of me. I guess. We're going to talk about that subject. I want you to finish. I want you to finish your thought. I feel. Listen. I just stole your clothes. Stop. Keep going. And then we'll move on to something else. I still feel a little violated from Sunday, man. What do you mean? The TSA, dude. That was. That was. That was different for me. Dude. He was grabbing hog. Dude, he was. He was. I mean it's. Well, I took. So I had this conversation. That's what you told me. We joked about it on Sunday. We laughed about it. We moved on from it. I had a. I told you guys that, you know, anytime I have this state change, right, whether it be funny, whether it be nervous, whether it be excited. You examine. I examine, right? So. Yeah, you got to start. You got to tell the story. Yeah. So, okay. So what happens at TSA? We haven't filmed too. We filmed the whole thing. Okay. So, yeah, you assholes. You're already posting a lot. It's a good thing. Justin was the one carrying the drugs. Yeah. In my butt. So on the, on the way out, where do we just fly? LA. So we just, we just flew down to LA. Which by the way, LA. Beautiful. Beautiful. Beautiful place. What a shithole. Anyway. I'm sorry. It's a beautiful house. Oh, well, come on. That's true. And then we visited some friends. Don't be a hater. The aerial house was fucking amazing, by the way. But just, just the LA traffic and stuff. I just want to punch. Anyway. I'm sorry. Yeah. Do you just hella people mad at you right now? Come on. The hella pride. I like the people. There's a lot of pride, dude. There's a lot of pride there. LA, man. So listen. It's the Dodgers, baby. We fly down there. We lose my fucking ID. And so I happen to have my... You left it at the strip club the night before. Yeah. That's right. Oh. So way to go, dick. I'm about to talk with that one now. So I, um, I, I lose... The Barstool. I lose my ID. We're on our way back. That's not a true story. Okay. We didn't leave the strip club. I didn't leave the strip club. Come on. I'm probably gonna do something right there. Damn it. Everybody knows we don't do that. When we got to start explaining ourselves. So... Yeah. We didn't, I didn't actually have drugs in my butt. Yeah. Let's start covering ourselves. It was a deal, though. Yeah. Come on. Thank you. I lose the ID at the airport, right? And we're, we're flying back now. And I, luckily I still have, um, my old ID and my gambling card. Which by the way, you're, you're very, very, very adorable. And cherub-like. Fuck off. In your picture of your old ID. You look like... You look so innocent. He looks like those little baby angels that they, you know, that they, the cherubs. Do you have pukashells? No. Come on, bro. I feel like it was almost on that level. It was in high school. He's got like the bugle boy shirt. Come on. That's kind of what I saw. Pukashell. Get the fuck out of here. Pukashell. Come on. I'm gonna come at you a little bit more. Mine's even worse, bro. Six or seven. Oh my god. You guys saw mine, right? Yeah. I'm like making this sh- like I just shit-face, you know. So because I had the old ID, I'm gonna try and like play it off like I don't know that I haven't lost it. I just want to go real quick and hope they don't say anything. She just confirms my name with my ticket, right? And she goes- Well, you made it for the first time. I did. And then it's right before it's the last time they have to look at my ID. And they go, oh, did you know this has expired? And I go, yeah, I lost my ID on the way over. And they're like, oh, go ahead and step to the side right here. Jerry, code 7439er. And I'm like, ah, Jesus. So I stand aside. And she's like, and actually I just stood there waiting and she's like, oh, it's going to be a minute. And I'm like, oh, great. So I had to step aside and I'm like, oh, awesome. It's going to take forever to do this. Jerry comes up. Jerry says to me, what's the problem? They joke about my laughing man. A fancy Jerry. Yeah. They joke about me losing my ID and that my only other ID is a gambling card. And so they have their fun, right? And they say, okay, follow me, right? And so I follow this guy and he's taking me through. And they're all like, as he's going by, oh, we got a code 974, you know, oh, we got a code 974. Like he's telling everybody's going by. I'm like, there's like a code for it. Yeah. There's a code for it. Right. And, you know, we get it, we get, it gets over to this guy, right? And this guy's stacking the bands and he goes, hey, Mike, could you go over here and do the code 497 with, you know, this guy here? You said three different. I don't know what it was. I don't remember the first story reasons. I'm going to just keep throwing code numbers. 69. So he goes, oh, I'm doing Ben's right now, you know, and like you tell, he doesn't want to. Nobody wants to do it. Yeah. Nobody wants to do it. And then he guys like kind of look around. I'm standing there like this is awkward. Like can we just get over this? Like just pat me down. Make Johnson do it. I'm pretty sure if you want hot shit. I'll do it. I'll do it. So listen. So the guy, I'm already rubber gloved. The guy goes, you know, I'm supposed to go to that shift in five minutes. So if you can't find anybody else, I'll do it. You know, so the guy's like, yeah, well, can I just have you do it? I can't find anybody else. He takes me over. And he stands in front of me and he has this long old spiel. Like it reminds me of like when you're with the rights. When you're cop, the cop reads. Miranda rights. Yeah, your Miranda rights. Right. So when he reads your Miranda rights, he goes to this like long old thing. So he's like going through this long old. Like, hey, I'm going to do this, that, blah, blah, blah. Are you okay? And then he stops. Are you okay with that? Are you okay with that? And I'm like, dude, just fucking pat me down. Like I don't have a bomb. I don't have anything like let's get out of here. Let's do this. I'm not being annoyed. I'm actually being playful with them. I'm laughing. We're joking. You guys were, you guys were there, right? I was just kind of teasing them. Yeah, you know, I asked him afterwards if I need to give him my phone number and shit. Like so I was having fun with the situation. But to be completely honest, I didn't want, I never had that before. I was always under the impression that when these moms that went crazy on the news and all these people that had these kids, this huge upward, I thought it was the one that Doug gets always, you know, Doug always gets pulled over, right? The thing goes through the sensor. They see his vest that looks like a bomb. They always have a bunch of scanners over it. So they pull him to the side, they pat him down, and then he gets his stuff, right? Well, this is different. This is, they actually, I didn't know this. I was, I was always assuming that. This is extremely invasive. This is what I thought the original, what the original pat down was. And I never really saw anybody do this. So I always thought like, God, some of these people are kind of overreacting. Like, come on. Like it's their job to pat you down, give these poor kids a break. That's what they have to do. It's for our own safety, you guys. Don't, why does everyone have to make a big ordeal? But they're always just, they're seeking attention. That was my way of thinking. I have to be honest until I got this. And I say I got this. Like I feel like I got something right now. I feel like it's a lasting impression in your mind. It was so fucking invasive, dude. It was crazy. Like he literally takes his, and I know he takes the back of his hand, but he outlines my entire pecker and balls. Like I can feel him go over the vein. You know, like he actually like, and he, No veins. Yeah. He takes the main one. He took a horizontal pass four times, and then he took a vertical pass four times. You're getting like a partial hand job. Yes. Vertical and horizontal. There's this uncomfortable feeling that this partially feels good, and this is also really weird that this is happening to me publicly in front of a bunch of people. He just teed lined you. And then he has to go, he has to go all the way up on both sides to the point where he asked me to take my belt loops, hold your belt loops. I had to give myself a wedgie. So he tells me to give myself a wedgie basically. Right. So I lift my pants all the way up. So there now I see that man. I got a camel toe going on. Right. So it says my junk's all pressed up. It's a moose knuckle. Camel toe is for a girl. Whatever. You know what I mean. So I'm wedgie in the fuck out of myself. And he goes and does the whole process again. So like through this, it's multiple times. Now you know why. Wow. Imagine now you're a parent. Holy shit. And they're doing that to your kid. Yes. 100%. I would get arrested. I feel guilty. I would go to jail. This was definitely a self reflection for me on the thoughts I had on those people that I thought were seeking attention over this because I was just unaware. I was unaware that they actually go to that level. And I thought if this was my girl, forget my five year old daughter. You straight up hog wrestled you. My five year old daughter, I'm able to knock a motherfucker out, you know. But I mean, even my girl, I'd be like an uncomfortable watching her get touched like that, that aggressively right in front of me. Dude, it's a hot topic. It's been a hot topic for a while because it's like, everybody's like, oh, it's for our safety. But you got to be careful with that. It's for our safety, you know, thing like when the NSA fucking wire taps everyone without a warrant, without due process, they just wire tap anybody and everybody, whoever they want. And people are like, well, I have nothing to hide. You better be careful when you give up your liberties, when you give up your freedoms, because those at some point can be used against you. Yeah, and then how are you going to get them back? Once that box is opened up, you don't get it back. Yeah, that's why there has to be like a protective mentality. Yeah, you got to be very careful. And are these things actually making us safer? This is an important debate we need to have. I'm not going to debate that now one way or the other, but you got to ask yourself that. And then lastly, if terrorists hated us for our freedom, well, they fucking won. They're winning. We're losing our freedoms all the time. It's eroding. It's starting to happen. Now you get in a plane, Adam feels like he's being violated. And that's Adam. Adam's super comfortable with himself. He's a big dude. He doesn't feel threatened. Yeah, and that's what tripped me out. What tripped me out was that we were you can handle something like that. We were joking. We were videoing it. It's like uncomfortable. Like as you're looking over like, oh my God, no, like serious. Yeah. Like I remember being like, we're having fun with this whole situation. But then being like, whoa, dude, like this is a little much. This is a little more than I'm comfortable with and think. And but mostly because of what went through my head right away, like you said, which was imagine that being your daughter. Because then I wouldn't know how to react because you brought this up. And I thought it was an excellent point. Like, so that's happening to your daughter. And as a father, do you pretend like you don't care? Do you pretend like it doesn't bother you? So that sends a message to your young daughter that another man or woman that is a stranger is touching me like this and my dad and my mom don't say anything or do anything. Or then do you react all crazy and then now your daughter and freaking out and get traumatized? Yeah, traumatized. Like, holy fuck, like how do you react in that situation and to make it healthy? I think I don't know what I would do. Like, whoa, that blew my mind. I don't know what I would do, man. I feel like I would lose my shit. Like I feel like I wouldn't be able to control what I would do. You know what I mean? You can't be mad at the guy who's doing his job either, right? Can I tell you something right now? All the horrible shit that's ever happened in fucking society for all the humanity, for all the time, is someone doing their fucking job. It's not the order taker. I'm sorry, the order giver. You always have a choice. The order giver is a fucking evil motherfucker, too. But I'm going to tell you something. Hitler did not kill himself millions of Jews. It was a lot of people just doing their fucking job. So here's a little message I'd like to send people. Don't do your fucking job if it's fucked up. Just don't do it. Quit. Be strong with that, you know what I'm saying? Strike is a hole. Like demand change. It's just crazy. Don't play that. This whole, I'm just doing my job. Well, in their defense, okay? In their defense. Maybe they don't feel bad about it. Exactly. In their defense, either one, they don't feel bad about it. Two, maybe they never even thought to really put themselves on the other side like that. They're just doing their job. Of course. There's many jobs that I've had that I'm passionate about. I love doing, but then I'm not thinking of all the repercussions of that. And we're using, you know, an example that's like, they're not hurting. They're not killing you. They may be violating people. I get that. And I'm sure some of them say, I don't want to do that. You know, I'm not going to do that. But, you know, they do, there's a very famous study that they've done and that they've replicated where they'll have test subjects go into a room. And they have... Shock a person? Yeah. They'll be a person in another room and they'll answer questions. And if they get a wrong question, then the person, the test subject will push a button that'll shock the other person. Now, they don't know that it's fake, that they're not shocking the other person. But they see him like getting hurt. They see them or they hear them. Or they hear it. Getting hurt. And they're informed that each shock gets stronger and stronger. And it starts off with the person just going, ow. And then eventually it's like the person like, no, please don't. I'm really freaking out. And this test subject is told what to do by the scientist who's like, okay, go ahead and push the shock button or whatever. And an alarming percentage of people... Won't do it anymore. I feel like... No, no, alarming percentage will do it. Will do it. Oh, yeah. A smaller... They'll do it. A smaller percent, actually a minority of people... Wow. They'll say, no, fuck that. It isn't very small. Like I can tell I'm hurting him. I don't want to do this. I don't want to do this. I seriously could draw a line in the sand and be like, that's two different types of people in the world that exist. You know, people that think outside and pull themselves out of the process and I have to do this to do it this way and there has to be a formula. People have to... Like this sort of like construct is there for a reason and we all have to conform. And you know, it's conform. Or it's like, wait a minute. Has anybody thought about like what this entails and like really examine the process of it or did you just fall in line and not question anything? Well dude, look at what happened on United Airlines. Did you guys see that? Yeah. No, you guys were saying that this... What happened? So they oversold the flight. So there's too many people. But there's people... These people already board... Which how's that even possible? That's possible. First of all, it's this horrible business on the like 10th level. Like this is just shit business. Like United should go fuck themselves. Yeah. They overbooked the flight. Everybody got on the plane. So the plane is full. But now they don't have seats for their own employees. It was like three people or something, right? Yeah, they had to get three employees on that. So they're like, okay, we need to make room. So first they offer, hey, you know, this flight was oversold. Yeah, we'll give you double... We'll give you $400 plus a hotel room. Nobody responds. $800. We'll give you $800. Then a bunch of people respond, or a couple of people, but there's one seat that they need and nobody else wants to get off the plane. So they... This is no bullshit. They randomly select a passenger. Randomly. And they pick this guy and they're like, you got to get off the plane. And it was a doctor. And he's like, I have patients waiting for me. He's like, I have to stay on. He's like, I'm not getting off the plane. Now that doesn't fucking matter. That definitely adds another twist to it. But I don't care if the guy's just fucking going home. Like, he bought the ticket. You put him on the plane. Go fuck yourself. You guys made a big mistake. Yeah, yeah. Your mistake, not his. Throw up. This guy doesn't want to get off. Doesn't want to get up. They call the cops. Oh, shit. Police go on the plane and physically... Airport police. Physically assault this motherfucker. Yeah. Drag him on his face. Like, basically, rip him out of his chair. What? And passengers are screaming. Like, you guys are hurting him. Stop. Like, they're screaming at the cops. Yeah. The cops who are just doing their job, rip this dude off the plane. He's got a bloody lip. And they literally rip this mother... Like, he's just on his back and they rip him off the plane. Didn't he, like, run back into... Well, no, I think afterwards they let him back on the plane. Oh, they let him back on the plane. Which just goes like, what the fuck are you guys thinking? Yeah. You should have just left him. You understand that that was wrong. Yeah. But I would like to say, I'm very happy that United Airlines today lost, I think, $1.4 billion in share value. Ouch. Because of that answer. The market responded. There you go, motherfuckers. $1.4? Yeah, $1.4 billion. Holy shit. In market share. Yeah. That's what happens, dude. In share value, excuse me, because people just started dumping their stock left and right. Didn't they have something happen to them like 10 years ago? What happened to them when we were in our... I don't know. They've got a really bad reputation. They were one of the first ones that went down or one of the... They had the most in one year or some crazy shit. Like... I don't remember. Yeah, I don't want to talk shit. Yeah, I don't remember. I don't remember either. But I thought United was another plane, one of the companies that had a hard time. I just... Or was it American? I don't know if it was American. Like, I'm a business owner, right? I've been a business owner for a long time. If that was me and that was my plane and I was stuck in a really bad situation, I would fucking say, look, I need a volunteer. I'll give you $5,000. Like, I would eat it. Yeah, exactly. I would eat that shit. Or if I'm on the plane, I'm going to get up and be like, I realize this guy's situation, you know, I would designate myself. Yeah, like nobody stood up. Yeah, like, don't rip them off the plane. Yeah. I'll leave. Like, whoa, like, you guys are hurting that guy. I just... Yeah. I don't know, man. I don't know. But yeah, again, like... This just happened when? When did this happen? It just went viral, like, yesterday, I think. Yeah. Oh, I'm sure. That's right. I didn't think about that. There's people on YouTube, right? So people were filming it on their phones and it went fucking nuts. Oh, you have to put it in the show notes, Doug, but I'm serious. Like, I want to see it. I haven't seen this yet. If there was... This is disturbing, dude. Is it really that bad? It's just fucking stupid. Like, what are you guys doing, man? I don't understand. Ripping someone off is like being like... Well, now there's the other question. You were talking about, like, standing up. How many people stood up to make sure they got it on YouTube? And how many people actually stood up? Right? There's a lot of people filming. Oh, at that, right? Yeah. Just being passive about the whole thing. Right? No, there's a lot of people filming. Which, by the way... Hey, dive into that right there. There's people that were yelling, though, and like... Yeah, there were. Well, dive into that, though, for a second. Like, you feel so compelled to film when it's like, God, if you felt so compelled to help this guy out, wouldn't it be just easier to volunteer yourself? You know what, though? You know what, though? Let's think about that for a second. It helps more. Exactly. Wow. Dude, you know how they say the pen is miterer than the sword? Yeah. That's the modern equivalent of the pen. That's a valid point. You take a picture or a video, the most effective... This is what you can do. If you ever see some shit going on, going on that's fucked up, and you don't want to get involved because you're afraid to get hurt, or you don't want to yourself get... Yeah, video. Just videotape that shit, post it and let it go viral. Post it and let it go viral. That shit changes things very quickly. It does. Aren't they going to do the cops wearing the glasses? Haven't they already implemented that, like in L.A. or something? Oh, the body cams? Yeah, the body cams, where there's a camera and a mic 24-7. I know some police departments are doing it. And also, hey, by the way, it also protects the cops. Yeah. There's a lot of... You know how many times cops deal with, probably most of the time, deal with assholes who lie and say, oh, he was being, you know, excessively, you know, excessive force, whatever, and it's reality, it's the purple thing. Well, so that's the shitty part. So when I talk to my buddies that are cops, they'll tell you that that's more often than the other side. Oh, I would bet. It's very rare. The guy who gets dragged off and it's crazy, like, that's a one-off. And you know that every cop's all over the... all cops all over the country right now cringe because they're like, great. Now you make us look like this one guy makes us all look this way. This is just... You're just making an uphill battle for us. They're starting to fire back. Yeah. They're starting to fire back because you're seeing more cops, police departments have these cameras and they're starting to release these films, like, look what this perp did to this cop and look how this cop helped this person it's just gonna be a... It's good. I like this. It's like a war of, you know, whatever. Let's see all this stuff. It's a war of transparency. Yeah. Which I think we're all for. Yeah. Check both ends. This is what we talked to Tom Bilyu off air when we were... When he came by the house was... In the throat and... This whole... The future of everybody's business will be like those that are the most transparent. Like, transparency is going to be huge and so many people are afraid of that because in marketing it's all about tricking and manipulating and so that's how we've made money for so long, but those ways are changing now. Oh, good. Like, to the point even where we talked like Taylor, right, and when he advises us there's certain things that we're like, oh, we should shoot it nicer to this. He's like, you know what? Honestly, it's not worth the time that it would take for you guys to create this. I mean, people will just appreciate the realism of just shooting that clip the way it is and everything because transparency is king right now and a lot of people are afraid to do that but we'll have to do that in the future. I love it. I love it. See you later. Bring the freedom bird. Freedom bird! Step right up all you bearded men and all you bearded ladies. This KWAS brought to you by Big Top Beer Company whose all natural beard oil products not only make your beard smell amazing but feel amazing too. Their organic essential oil blends transport you to manly places like the mountains, the desert, the sea and beyond all while encouraging a lot of beard nuzzling the boom. Buy it for yourself or as a gift for that special bearded someone at bigtopbeardcompany.com Enter the discount code MIMEPUM for 33% off at checkout. Kyle Cleetus, does asymmetrical soreness indicate asymmetrical recruitment patterns? That's a good question. I don't know. Next question. As if we did that one. Question. That would be a good place to start looking. Sure. It's got to be a great sign. Especially if you're doing both sides of your body and an exercise and one side is consistently displaying signs of inflammation and muscle damage and the other side isn't then yes, I would say there's probably or there's a high likelihood that there's some kind of asymmetrical recruitment pattern. I have an example with you. We didn't even have to use asymmetrical there. I think that's what someone wrote on there to try that so the average listener understands what they're asking. This happened to me when I was a kid. I used to have a scooter. Scooters were kind of big when we were kids but they didn't have the rager scooters. Remember they had the big tires and you'd fucking jump those things. And I thought I was so rad. Which I thought were still way cooler. I was like 19. Could do so much more. I'm just kidding. I was younger. So anyway I'd ride the scooter and I was always right foot on the scooter. Left foot was the one that I would push off and which meant my left calf got lots of work from doing this and I'd ride this thing all around all the time. And I'll never forget right around that time I thought it would be a great idea to start jumping rope probably because I watched Rocky. That would truth be told. And I started jumping rope and my right calf got sore as fuck and my left was fine. And I remember thinking like why is that happening? And I'm like oh it's the scooter. Because I ride with my left side or I push off. Did you put that together as a kid? I did. I was 14. I wouldn't have put that together that early. Really? No. Definitely not. I wouldn't be an understanding mechanics like that at that age. What's this? It's boner. Yeah. No. It would have confused me like probably 90% of the people. So where I see it most common though are like compound movements or because that's where it gets really challenging. Oh yeah. It goes all kinds of joints. Yeah. And so then it's like so for example let's just take something a little less complicated but a little bit more complicated than what Sal is saying is like a lat pull down. Right. So you do a lat pull down and you feel your soreness all on the left side but not the right side. So you think oh I have an imbalance or a recruitment pattern in my lat. Well it could be stemming from the shoulder or the arm. You know somewhere else in the kinetic chain besides just the lat. So it's a good place to start. It's not 100% accurate like oh I have this bad recruitment pattern. You might be able to activate the lat pretty well but what's happening there's some sort of dysfunction in the shoulder or somewhere else. What's good is it'll kind of lead you down the path of like really assessing your day to day habits and like yeah like your patterns. So once you can kind of really pay attention to that not just what you do in your workouts but like all day long like how many times am I using my right hand to pick things up to move forward. Which foot am I stepping with predominantly or if I go to jump which foot do I place in front of the other or you know all these things think about you know chronically how long you know of a period like years of doing some types of movements would contribute to now a quote unquote balanced sort of a situation where I'm trying to just yeah. I had a client who couldn't she couldn't feel one side of I don't know I think it was her left glute like we would do exercises and glutes was one of her targets. Oh that's really common. And she would she'd like I can feel my right glute firing but I can't feel my left glute firing. You know what movement points that right out for people. Which one. You know the one that we did where we did their quad. And then you have to you've you've thrust your hips. You thrust your hips and then you slide into the runner stretch. Yeah. It's that's I use that to help help people connect if they have because that's a very common. We did we did we did a YouTube video which we could also put in the show notes. Yeah. And we can actually link directly to that but that's right there is a great example of something that's very very common and I'm I don't know why your lady is going to let you finish your story in a minute but I wanted to make sure I shared that. That we made and I remember that that was a tool that I used a lot that help people realize that there is an imbalance there because you can really tell like when you go to thrust with that glaring Oh it's very glaring. You can when you're when you're focusing and isolating one side with and being band restricted and you have to engage the glue like one will like feel very natural like you'll just get right. I have I still have it it's really we always like kick our hip to the side or when you drive you're very rarely squared up you're kind of shifted so well another way to see that too is if you if you use like a bike and and you get off the seat and if you constantly like are sitting and you'll notice like the seat will tilt to one direction and you just see like where you're really striking the hardest right. It's interesting. Well so with this client that I had what I did was I was trying to I couldn't figure it out because everything her squats look good lunges look good even her toe touches look good hip thrust like I was like what the fuck why doesn't she feel this glue I'm thinking is her nerve damage and I'm going all these different ways and then I had her take her shoes off and I noticed that so let's say it was her left glue her left big toe would come off the floor a little bit when she would squat and boom right there I could see that there was some there was a change in the recruitment pattern or ground her right toe into the floor while maintaining good ankle stability and start doing toe touches with that and little by little by little we were able to gain some connection to that clue but you know Justin made a comment about how long it takes to change these patterns oh yeah let me tell you man there's just no exaggeration like I'm doing it I'm still doing it it's only been it's been about eight months maybe seven or eight months for me now where I have not got a belt or with squat shoes and I still will not go as heavy as I know I can go on my exercises because on certain exercises like my deadlifts because the second I go a little heavier I can lift the weight it's no problem but boom there goes my there goes my old recruitment pattern kicks right back in so I gotta back off it's hard wired you're finding it's hard wired and you're trying to reprogram that it takes a long time it takes a while I'm not wearing a hand hook grip I'm not wearing a belt when I'm deadlifting I'm watching my feet and I don't go above I don't think I've gone heavier than I think 450 was the heaviest I've gone recently I've gone up to 500 but boom there's my imbalances 450 I was okay I don't even like going above 400 pounds this is so I'm somebody who was deadlifting in the mid fives and it's just it's like you have to like learn the exercise all over again it can be very frustrating but I will say a positive on that is not only not lost muscle so it's not like I've lost muscle or performance I've actually my body's changing a little bit I'm kind of building a little bit better it seems and if you did though I think it's okay which is fine yeah and I think that's where like I mean this is where I struggled I remember I had a hard time taking care of the things that I needed to take care of with my body and imbalances because I was so driven to build muscle and I was so driven by my insecurities of not having enough muscle that if I actually put all this focus on something that wasn't related to building muscle or as much as you know fixing the imbalances that oh I would lose all this and it would be like oh the hardest thing ever to get back and that's just not true I mean you can it's really easy once you've built that muscle to get back to that point what's hard is breaking through new levels or points right in your in your growth or your progression and strength and muscle size especially when you do cali take away so this is what you should do I would do two things A. I would use dumbbells and I would go light enough to where you can match both sides yeah exactly I mean everything match both sides from the ground all the way up from the position of your foot up to your ankle your hip your low back your scapula your shoulders your wrist your elbows everything pay attention all that stuff have to be perfect on both sides and you can until or at least use as much weight up until the point where the form breaks you start to see one side is a little bit different and I mean everything like I noticed I have I think a lot of people know they just push through it they do I think a lot but there's small things too like I noticed when I do an overhead press that my left wrist breaks just a little more than my right and it's barely fucking noticeable well that's why it's also important to do unilateral training so you know if you take it and you concentrate on your left shoulder you're going to respond so much more on my left shoulder right that's what you have to take away from that when you go back to barbells and you're like okay this is something I should probably lower the weight like you guys are saying so that way it's a weight that my left side that's lagging can control properly well I know my right arm is going to kill this but we need to train together the Logan Doherty how do you see virtual impacting the fitness industry and mind pump oh wow well I think I love this kind of stuff I think impacting the fitness industry and mind pump are almost the same thing right cause we're part of the fitness industry and it's going to no matter what we've moved in the digital space I mean don't kid yourself like we see a lot of opportunity utilizing tech and the way that we can reach more people I think that's been the biggest explosion that's positive right so it's been able to give people a way louder voice to you to weigh more people so that way there is a way now for people that really know their stuff and are sending the right message for the like more to get more exposure if they tap into it correctly and so as far as like VR and I mean that's kind of an interesting thing in AI obviously to me those sound so far away but I mean they're already making massive improvements on them our secret sauce I feel like something that's kind of like our secret sauce I feel like in a big part of mind pump success and growth is the fact that we were trainers for as long as we were we really understand like the things that the big rocks that help people and we've tried our best to implement that in this new digital world and I don't think a lot of people have spent at least in our arena have spent a lot of time focusing on those things so like for example we know that there is a personal element that comes to training and fitness that is very very unique to it in comparison to any other business model you don't purchase it and you don't get to go home and look at it and play with it and drive it and show it off to your friends it's an emotion it's a feeling it's a level of awareness it's something that it's not tangible so the the need to have a personal connection with your people or your client is unique in this industry so my thing with the whole virtual reality is and I don't know because I don't know what it will look like in 15 years you know because when it first comes out there'll probably be a lot of pushback and they'll probably modify it but that's still and you're right Justin I think it's to replace us I still think it's no I think I think initially what we're going to see is that VR tech and AI is going to master and strengthen and grow the fitness industry yes you'll really use it as a tool big time I could see AI replacing a personal trainer when AI is when it's indistinguishable from a human when it's physical when it's indistinguishable from a human then yeah you'll have robot personal trainers because the psychological component is 99% of that's it personal training but that's the difference you can write as much code and algorithm as you want like leading up to this so AI obviously is taking on its own intelligence so it's going to think differently so it'd be interesting like who know like AI itself is so unpredictable you know like who really knows what that looks like it's such a thing that it's like people talk about it with certainties but to me it's just like I think it's going to be a lot different than we even think it is well it's fun to speculate right it's fun to speculate and try and figure out I really like what you said Sal as I see that I see it as a tool I see it as a complimenting what we're doing I would love to have some ridiculously smart AI as an assistant to us who like we could totally program or create like all the the frequently asked questions right that we can just boom boom boom help so many more people that way on the real easy stuff and then maybe more the digging deeper and diving more into the psychological side which requires a person and this this ability to in the creative thought process I think that's the biggest distinguishing factor because you can you can like pay attention to patterns all day long but that only tells you so much like there's a creative element to humans that's unique I think in order to create real artificial intelligence we have to understand how the brain works and the mind works we don't we're not even close that's why I feel like this is so far but I'll say here's what I think well and we know too with the whole influencing that I mean that could turn talk about a rabbit hole so many things yeah it's like that law like Rob Wolf was telling us about remember that it's like the more you know you know the the real the more you realize the more you realize yeah but it's like there's an actual graph for it Dunbar's equation I think so so here's what I think with virtual reality in the more immediate future I see when virtual reality is really good to where you can project yourself in someone else's living room as a 3D image I could see group training and personal training well because you already explode yeah you already see that right now with television and being able to livestream so you can now I can I can join a class virtually in my living room so I mean yeah there's going to be ways that we'll be able to infiltrate that in-home market like crazy I think online coaching will explode like if you let's say you want to train with someone over you know you're in another part of the country gym with you show you you know techniques and exercises I could see group training explode like that like imagine if there was a super popular group exercise class taught by like this fucking amazing instructor but the classes are packed all the time but they could project him or her into your living room so you could take the class with everybody well I see honestly I see augmented reality like hitting more than for this reason alone because some glasses or something and so now that person is just with you versus now I have to like like create an entirely new environment and close myself off and then experience this with this trainer in a virtual world it's like keep me in the real world but now bring this person you know right into my living room I can see that here's something else I see with with tech is I see tech in the very near future being able to quantify all these different metrics that are related to your health and your individual responses to things like foods and exercise so I think you're going to be able to you know right away sensors are getting very sophisticated you're going to be able to measure inflammatory markers real time hormonal changes real time your insulin levels real time you're going to eat something you're going to see how it affects your body you know it blew me away we met with these rather recently and they were explaining to us how because they were measuring insulin in real time and they were telling us how a potato they were showing these graphs and there was this bell curve and most people respond like this with their insulin response in the middle but then there's these outliers and they were showing us these specific examples of course they were keeping the people anonymous but they were showing like this guy eats a potato and here's his insulin response and then look at this woman like with those kind of individual and we know this is trained for years like you train people one person's respond to a different from the next person so that's always going to be outliers that's where I see the more immediate future where you're going to have devices now that can measure all these things in your body and you'll eat an exercise and it'll tell you okay today's workout intensity should be moderate and this is what you should eat today and you know you ate this and you did your inflammatory markers go up if you want my honest opinion it's exactly that the future of fitness is going to definitely steer more into the automated like the sensor type response so if I'm picking up a weight it already knows how much it is how many times you moved it like it's doing all the analytics of every part of your movement your heart rate you know how you're responding like how your breathing patterns are like you're going to have like just so much fucking biofeedback as can be well and I think this is an area that we all strongly agree and when we first started Mind Pump we agreed that this the fitness industry is is grossly behind I mean they are way behind in this arena and in the future these all say the people that are going to win this race are the ones that are on all that cutting edge are taking that aren't denying it pushing back from it that are embracing it learning how to use it and it within their style their way of training there if you are doing that you're going to be so far and eventually those people are going to gobble up everybody else you could be the best trainer the best like PT in the country but what's going to happen and this I got a lot of this from Tom Billy it was really good insight when we started getting into our like off air we got into our personal business and I just love having the and you know he really sees it as the future is anything that could be free will be free like so if you have the ability to share your knowledge give all this stuff virtually online without you sucking your time I mean look at the amount of good information people can have from us now for nothing or anybody and so it's going to be who can give the most free information the best and those people will gather the most amount of people and then the real money in the business will come off of all the other things and that is very hard for people to fucking swallow right now and I tell you why would you want to give something away for free that you used to make money on bottom line is you're going to have to so if you plan to be in the fitness industry and you want to do this for a long time you need to be in that transitioning into if you don't want to get gobbled up on this company you know what really excites me about tech the most exciting thing for me now that I think is either available now or will be available very soon there's a device that actually will scan food and I can't remember how it works it has to do with some kind of spectrometer yeah it shoots a laser at it and then the way the laser refracts or whatever it can tell you what's in your food so I'll scan a food it'll tell me vitamins minerals fat protein carbs it'll tell me pesticides herbicides before you know it oh it'll be like pesticides herbicides toxins like can you can you just let's just take let's reflect for a second like labels can suck my dick they're gone like FDA companies nobody's gonna care nobody's gonna care about the FDA your stock by the click of a button on your phone you want to talk about a disrupting technology a fucking imagine this imagine how hard it's gonna get to get passed and get pushed through that's you there's no there's there we weren't there ten years ago no now it's there that's how uber exists right but think about it worry about having to be regulated because you can go over there and you can scan it yourself and see oh it's clean healthy and I can yeah like all those scare tactics gone yeah like I'm excited about that and and for me and it opens up our opportunity too so you don't have to like go through all this whole process to open up a restaurant like you just have people over that want to eat your food think supplement companies are fucked because you're gonna scan the protein be like your label is wrong yeah you have all the shit in it this is all soy motherfucker yeah I I can't wait I can't wait they're shaking in their boots oh good shake Sarah be so what is your thoughts on training with adrenal fatigue this is a this is coming up for me more and more and more because I've opened myself up to yeah some online coaching and we definitely and I'm getting a lot of these onslaught of that oh man I'm getting a lot of these people who who used to compete in bikini or body building or physique or whatever and they're in this category how similar is this to metabolic damage that's I think it's the same it's the same similar or it's the name it's the name they're giving it right now like because it right now and that's I've heard both of them we have very much like the same we have to preface with that also is that it's not it's by the medical community you know I'm not recognized yeah metabolic damage or no it's not recognized yet but this it will be I'll bet my house on it I tell you so adrenal fatigue you know these are symptoms of like fatigue low energy you know low energy low motivation maybe depression issues with sleep you know cold hot sweats like this is your burnt out body okay and it happens from there's many many causes but a lot of it resides in over application of stress not getting enough sleep and poor nutrition this goes also hand in hand with with what's the word leaky gut syndrome leaky gut syndrome and adrenal fatigue tend to go hand in hand and rarely will you find one without the other leaky gut syndrome is when your gut is inflamed and it becomes permeable more permeable than it normally is and so the foods that you normally eat leak through the gut wall and get into your bloodstream and then your body sees these things that are leaking through his foreign invaders and they create antibodies to them and some foods are more prone to being you know recognize his talks as invaders and other foods gluten is definitely one of them and I have yet okay and I'm not saying it's just true for everybody but I have yet to find to have somebody who I think has real adrenal fatigue who didn't benefit from eliminating gluten eliminating gluten for people who are truly an adrenal fatigue so far for me seems to be a home run every single time seems to be like oh wow this was a big a big change as far as training on adrenal fatigue you are trying to balance your body out optimize your body so think about think of your training in that sense so I'm training a client right now who I think has adrenal fatigue and she's asking me what should I do on my day off today like I want to do cardio I want to do hit cardio and I'm like no guess again and she's like well I want to on a long hike no guess again she's like yoga and I'm like depends what kind of yoga she's like are you like there's yeah there's hot yoga there's power yoga and then there's candlelight yin yoga I'm like that's the one there it is you should do today and then she's like or I can get a massage and said that's another good option so for adrenal fatigue you're trying to balance your body out so I would say with your training traditional strength training few days a week maybe two days a week max maybe three days a week but probably two days a week no cardio you just just look at your neat folk you know meditation sleep eat increase your your fat intake reduce your carbon take reduce your sugar intake that's for sure reduce your process food intake no artificial sweeteners like heal your gut take probiotics because they're strongly connected those are my like kind of like my surface now I'm gonna take the I'm gonna play devil's advocate in this situation because because this is something that is now getting popular in the fitness community and more smart people are talking about it sharing it now I also already see the the pendulum swinging on this where I turn it into an identity yes a lot of people want to go oh my god this is why I'm not losing weight they've been waiting for exactly I've been waiting for someone to tell me what because I know I know that I am I'm not eating that much and I'm working hard and I should be losing way more weight and so I just want to tell everybody this real quick that it's way more rare than you think it is okay it's actually it's someone who truly has metabolic damage is is less common than you think and most people are just really stressing the body out and it just takes yeah I just balance it I just got to balance some things out a little bit on them and get them a little more aware of what's going on and they tend to like turn around pretty quick point because real adrenal fatigue takes some serious time it takes some time to get out of yeah you're looking at months and you know months some people I've know done it for you know worked on it and after about a year exactly most the ones that I have truly worked with that actually have it it's been all none of them have been under six months to a year all of them have been year plus of like me helping them and really seen little to no results because it's a long haul to get there because to get that much damage done to your metabolism you've had to fucked it up pretty bad for a long time most people though are just because all those things that Sal was talking about that you know people are doing those are all stressors even working out as a stressor right so most people are just stressing the fuck I definitely caution in the intensity even if you are lifting weights I just prefaced that that's and that to me like normally that's all I just gotta go like oh fuck well you're hammering yourself here you're hammering yourself at work you're hammering yourself here let's actually just fucking let's do a couple things that actually help that or compliment that instead of adding more to it and normally when they go to a trainer they're desperate and they've already they've already tried so much stuff and they're trying everything right now and now they're looking for you to give them even more stuff to do and they're willing to pay for it and it's like actually we're going to cut out a lot of this stuff and we're just going to take one or two little things that I want you to hone in on and connect to and figure out how that affects the way you feel the way you move your energy your strength all that stuff and you start connecting the dots with them and normally that only takes me about 30 to 90 days that's why I have a for me it was when I was doing online coaching it was a three month minimum you had to be with me because I wanted I knew that you know within those 90 days I was gonna have I was gonna be able to connect enough dots that you would get it you know or get the idea of what you needed to do for the long-term results but I knew also that I needed more than 30 days because majority of people it takes a little while for you to start to connect that and figure that out oh here's something you should not do if you have a real adrenal fatigue you should not fast I actually had people who I think have adrenal fatigue like oh I you know I'm gonna start fasting because I know you're another stressor no more stress your body just yeah you just can't handle I can't handle anything that's not that's that's gonna be any type of a story you're fighting yeah you know for to survive yeah no yeah exercise food all these things you know fasting like those are all here's the one vegetables lots of vegetables cooked vegetables you want to eat cooked vegetables why if you have inflammatory if you do have leaky gut syndrome lots of raw vegetables can actually irritate your gut more believe or not so cooked vegetables are easier to digest the cooking process actually breaks down the fiber quite a bit and you can eat more of them so that's another one I had this conversation with someone the other day and I eat lots of vegetables I don't know I have all this bloating and pain I'm like wait a minute do you cook these vegetables no yeah yeah cook those and then see what happens and sure enough solve the problem right Xavier and five how did you come up with the name mine pump and what other names have you did you come up with before you know what I Doug do you remember who or how we came up with mind pump I don't remember I was a collaborative effort yeah yeah cuz not one person stands out Craig you know yeah he had some like post going on it within his people and so did we I remember we and then we was one of the throne yeah we were throwing names around all together and yeah that's what I remember from it well I do remember I do remember and I remember Sal I do remember Sal saying this where he's just like you know I foresee us doing so much more than just fitness for people I don't we don't want to glass ceiling yeah and then I remember me coming back and countering being like well listen we need to stay in our lane like we're fitness people we needed like it needs to be something related to fitness because that's our expertise we don't want to be also trying to act like we're experts in something that we're not and we all agreed right we both agreed on both like both were important like we had it had to have some sort of attachment to health wellness and fitness but then we also didn't want to really want to be patient hold ourselves to something just related to fitness because we want to help in so many other areas right yeah I could because you know if you if we have voted for shreds but I was already taking those out of shit if we if it was a strictly fitness name it would limit our our content and you know I I don't know when I met with you guys and we first sat down I I immediately right we had this chemistry right away we're fucking flying like we don't shut up we have really really good conversations and I know I thought to myself I said well I said we're we there's a lot of personality here like we're we're more personality than anything and we are you know we do we are quite knowledgeable about fitness and health but there's people out there are smarter than us in fitness and health and you know I we weren't we also knew we weren't gonna go you know the the super you know academic route because we get our asses handed to us we but I did know that we also talked about hey we would like to get those people on our show right we also like all these other things like all these other subjects we like to talk about and it just fitness happens to be our favorite hobby so you know that's why the word mind is in there because we wanted it to be we wanted that to be open enough you know to be able to and let's be honest when we actually did it we weren't like oh this is perfect like I kind of settled on and I remember when Doug even for created the first logo we weren't even like oh that's perfect Matt Justin I remember we wanted something more creative that was more brandable for shirts and things like that and we were all going back and forth like I don't like the color yellow and all this stuff but you know it's kind of crazy how it worked out because you know the fact that you know it ended up being just the podcast mind put media is the parent company to mind pump raw fitness truth yeah it really worked out so it stands out great for podcasting so when you're going down and you're scrolling on the podcast you see mind bump and big bold yellow and white letters so it stands out really well it doesn't pigeonhole us to just finish we don't have a barbell and weights all over it or like a guy flexing or a girl flexing on there so it was it's not the keto show or the paleo you know radio hour yeah it really it really grew on all of us right I feel like you know we but we did go back and forth I mean we debated back and forth and I don't think anybody was like overly excited about it I think we all kind of like okay that does work that works that works it covers everybody's grew on us yeah but now it's like now obviously hindsight like oh it's perfect it was a perfect name but yeah at the time I think it's more that Eddie Cervantes thing so long so serve you do a thing yeah you have a thing with mispronouncing I do you know I'm but you know what you want to see if people are listening well here's the thing I notice about it's a trick here's the thing I notice about Adam which is just blows me away you have the ability to pick up vernacular very quickly like if I say a word that you've never heard before I'll hear you the following week use that same word in exactly the way it's supposed to be used I gotta give you props you you mentioned lambasted yeah I was like goddamn I haven't heard that word ever hey kids lambasted use it everybody it's fun I don't even know what it's fun I use it last night but you do you use words I think that you read or you hear once you understand how it's used and then you say it and then use it in sentences and paragraphs and use them appropriately or properly I just think you you heard it once or you read it one I know I've mispronounced words I read all the time well I think that's I think that's the part of of learning that's part or at least that's part of my learning process is I have to read something I have to see it and then I have to say it like I need to do all three of those things for it to and I need to do it soon because if I if I if I just took yeah that's it you just apply it really quickly yeah so yeah I'm not afraid to afraid to most people will reserve that you know and so they're basically filtering themselves yeah you know yeah that's all that is I just don't learn in the the actual pronunciation cares 100% I'd rather I'd rather say it and it come out not the way I should it should have came out but that that's how I learn right so that's how it's me and you know that fear of I think that holds a lot of people back because they're so afraid I'm not gonna say this ride or it's gonna sound about the back they're questioning I might be wrong for once I'm so afraid of being wrong do you pronounce it this I have the zero fucks like I'm gonna say it because I know it fits somewhere there right I'm gonna keep going and then I'm sure I'm sure somebody will make fun to me later interesting that only happened a handful of times I noticed that because like even like so this brings up like kind of a conversation like one of our old videos for on Indian clubs like so I learned Indian clubs from one of my buddies that's a trainer and another buddy of mine that was a trainer that like went to these different conferences and all this kind of stuff and so I was taught a specific way and I realized that like me then now taking this I didn't fact check them you know yeah fact check them on it and like so I wasn't like super verse or proficient and I'm not like like professing that I'm like super proficient in Indian clubs or kettle bells or anything like that but I do know enough you know to sort of help others yeah we're lady you know enough to know that you know that more than the majority and you sharing that and I share it I'm not afraid and here's the thing like so I was wrong on a certain part of the grips and in the way that I didn't twist my body back and you know get some transverse planar movement with to attach to that and I almost like thinking about that it's a good point you know like you know like I do it this way because I can that's not necessarily the right you know thing like you want to teach it the way that you want everybody to do it right so but anyway so I just I just checked myself before getting angry you know I'm like okay well do my research I'll see you know critically examine this and look you know and sure enough you know I was wrong so that being said like for my response to it is like okay cool like I learned something yeah I just learned something and guess what like I like that's like one of the first times where somebody had checked because I got an ego you know when somebody comes at me and so I'll be more reserved with it and be like oh no I'm gonna be wrong yeah but I just recently noticed that that dude your state has changed for me you want yeah dude I was really impressed because it was actually a YouTube channel and somebody commented mm-hmm and they said you were doing something wrong and normally you know your response would be to fucking fire back it's our channel right we got the power we'll say but no Justin went and did his research the guy was right invited the guy to come down he's probably gonna come down and show us I hope he does you know show us some shit I want to learn from it how fucking how awesome is that number one yeah for for Justin to do that and how awesome is that that now you're able to you know you learn that process and you just grill from it but you know add them back to your your you know when you when you mispronounce words or whatever would I know I know what I would consider you but I want to hear from your mouth do you consider yourself a communicator would you say that that's one of the things you love doing the most yeah I like to communicate yeah yeah I think so like a true communicator you you you value and you love words you love words you love new words and I'm same way I love words because different words can that mean the same thing can also mean a little bit different so you can be more specific absolutely and more descriptive with the new word and words are fucking they're fun and awesome you know I used to actually write down my girlfriend the same thing I actually used to write down my words that I would listen here and be like oh I like that word and it I'd write it down because I just like the way it looked and the way it sounded and I think people who like to communicate tend to do that and we probably you know I do the same thing I think we probably have a higher propensity to mispronounce words because we're saying it for the first time because we heard it for the first time and if people don't correct us we just keep saying it that way until somebody says something yeah well I think too when you're I personally love it well we're also gonna go to library and read it give people character though like otherwise everybody sounds so robotic that has held back for years and then now they're they're regurgitating regurgitating everything out the proper way well you're also gonna remember to the super proper especially when you're talking about Sal and I is because Justin has the most formal education I'm self-taught for the most part I mean now and now that I'm 35 years old I've spent more time of my life teaching myself than I ever have from a teacher a mentor anybody else and so part of that you get it you get a little bit of a which I don't mind sharing because we are the raw truth and that's one of the things I think that's mind-bumped in true fashion here is like that's part of my learning process right and I'm not afraid of it I'm not afraid to embrace it and own it like I'm gonna I'm gonna get it out there because I know that that happens to me two or three times because I'm using it and I'm applying it because I just learned it two or three days before I know that but in in due time it's gonna flow like everything else does and then I'll be that much better of a communicator yeah you just get to now people get to see that process because we're not refined because we didn't go I didn't have 812 plus years of formal education where I was taking tests on it learning over over over memorizing it and then come out and then I'm like okay I'm only gonna present you what I know well that's how I'm gonna go I'm gonna fucking present you everything that I know and then as I learn it I'm gonna present it to you right away because one I feel like a lot of people can benefit and then two that's how I learned I actually had a client give me a one of the greatest compliments ever it was a surgeon that I trained I used to train some really really smart people and I loved it because while I was training them I was just learning the whole time so I felt like I was actually getting more out of the train than they were from my perspective but anyhow I don't remember what word it was but I was talking about something and I said a word and he kind of looked at me and smirked and we ended up becoming good friends he smirked a little bit and he goes you like to read a lot don't you I'm like huh why do you say that he goes the way you pronounce that word he goes that's not how most people pronounce it I can tell you've never heard it before that you've only read it what a nice way to compliment you right and I was like whoa man instead of insulting you because he's insecure about how intelligent he is to try and make you feel like most what most people do ego yes most people right there could and you that's why that guy became a friend of yours for sure well I know I know who your personality and when you meet somebody that has that kind of level awareness where he easily could have done what most insecure motherfuckers that are that smart do oh it's an opportunity to hammer you yes an opportunity to make you look less smart or him more smart by pointing that instead he actually complimented you on fucking up which is how I like to respond to a lot of people you've seen me do this before if you go back to like if you go deep enough if you've been following me long enough on my Instagram there is quite a few people that were like beat me up over like misspell words on my Instagram right that were that I would just rip out something I just say and say it I thought and I just fucking laid into the grammar Nazis because I'm like I don't spend like this like a college paper I'm giving you what I know I'm gonna fuck it up all the time like I don't I don't really sweat it you know I'm saying so I feel like when you meet that that shows a lot of insecurities on the people that find the need to point it out there's a way to deliver that that's how you deliver information like that well there's a pretentiousness that exists when you get into academia that's real and it's people that they they start to divide the the sales people quote unquote with the the people that are of academic knowledge you know there's been a lot I did all of my I paid my good money to get all this academic work and you know fuck these guys are making more money than me I'm the one holding the knowledge you don't know I don't think you realize how hard you hit the nail on the head number well obviously a lot of people learn and get formal education because they love to learn but there's some people that like to learn because it makes them feel superior absolutely but what you bring what you're talking about right now is a long lasting tradition you know that academia people at the highest you know education levels for long like thousands of years hated the merchants you guys know this right like the people who are in the churches the nobles the ones who read the books the whatever they dislike the merchants so the ones that were out there like doing the trades making the money they hated them so much because they felt that they were so smart that they could organize society better if they could just can control people more than the market would with all these merchants reality we know the opposite we know nobody's people understand that right no economics right there and that was up on some and that was that's been around for very very long time and this is this is where the distrust in that originated in banks and merchants for a long time and if you go and look through history you see that's caused a lot of people from a lot of freedom so Milton Friedman right Milton Friedman talks about this and if you look through you actually read some of the historical things you'll see like the church with the time you know for a long time the church was the holder of information and they were considered the scholars and the academics and the church did in fact for a long time what were the ones that were studying and learning the most stuff and then there was a split of course but you had the nobles and the church and whatever and they did not like these these quote-unquote you know unintelligent people who were building these 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