 But even eternity did do it. It's not even good to mix eternity with time. I mean the whole point is to really get clear that they don't. Because to echo eternity is just a long, long time. You know. You know. The echo says good. Think in terms of eternity. This just stretches all the time more. That's the way I am. So give me something. How else do you echo eternity? Well you can't. The miniature of eternity. The little snapshot of eternity is the holy instant. And that's why every time we come together to look at everything that's covering over the holy instant Jesus says now is the closest approximation of eternity that the world offers. You can get a little specter we just talked about in that thing. That's the closest approximation to eternity that the world offers. So we just keep looking. It can be to have sessions to even go through the thinking of this and to just to, as I say when I'm going through it, if there's anything that is not understandable or that needs a little more clarity, that's another time to raise the hand up. An example? Yeah. It doesn't have to be a major, major crisis before it hits your hand. And I think the iceberg analogy, why that's not helpful and why it's not accurate is that it doesn't, well I don't know if I can explain why, but I guess the other metaphor that you've used that does explain it better to me is the tree with the branches. Because that gives some connection to all of it. The trunk of the tree indicates that it's like a funnel. It's all leading to the same place. So whether I pick this belief or this belief or this belief of any of the branches, it's all leading to the same place. So it's not like, well, this is just one belief among millions. What's the, you know, what's the impact of that? It's like, well, it's leading to the same root cause. So pick anyone, pick one, pick ten. It doesn't matter. It's all going to the same place. So that, to me, is a much better way of seeing it because then it doesn't feel so overwhelming. And that, too, it's like, you know, even with a tree, you think of how it keeps branching out further and further and further that even if you pick a belief that's on the furthest most, you know, teeny tiny branch, if you see a connection between that and a bunch of other beliefs, you can lop off one big, big branch of a tree at one time. So, I mean, you know, to me, that's helpful in seeing that there's a connection between all of it. Whereas the iceberg just seems like, you know, there's no connection. It's just one over here, one over there, one over here. You still have a huge iceberg. What's the connection? Another way to think of it using a tree analogy would be, with the leaves and little twigs, you think of every little leaf as a private mind. That leaf, if you follow to the twig, if you follow to one branch, if you keep going, you'll follow just that route that it takes all the way down to the trunk. You know, that the trunk is the wrong mind. And you could think of all the branches and little twigs that go off seemingly separate things. There's just variations. Different variations in form. It's in form is where all the variations seem to take place. When you can really work it down, it's just one trunk or one belief. So that's good news. It's not like you, in that sense, it's not from a quantitative sense that you have to literally look at every leaf. Yeah, you can just take anyone and trace it down. It seems like the mind looks at as many of those branches as necessary to start seeing that every one of them goes back to that trunk. Yeah, it makes that connection. Until it generalizes in that way. So it's like once the mind sees that that's the case, then that kind of takes all what's left away with it. It takes care of the rest of all those other branches. The ones that felt sweep. Idea, and of course, the ability to miscreate. Oh, Frank Hammons, he placed a limit on your ability to miscreate. And that was the Atonement. The way that Jesus describes the Atonement, he says the Atonement was built in to the space-time belief. And the answer, the Atonement or the Holy Spirit was built into it. It's like a safety device so that the device you know, it's ended, it's over. I mean, once the safety device is put in place and it works for every leaf and every swig and every branch. You know, it's like every single possible scenario, no matter how dark and twisted and distorted the dream can be, there's the little safety device that's tucked away in there. And that's the Atonement. It's the stages of the development of trust. In the Teacher's Manual he says that there are 10 characteristics of God's teachers that reflect an advanced teacher and he starts off with trust, is number one in honesty and goes into tolerance and patience and different ones. But he says the characteristics rest on trust. They all rest on it. And he goes further and says that here's five or six stages that the Teacher of God must go through. And early on one of them will seem as if things are being taken away. You know, it can seem as if jobs are being taken away, people are being taken away, possessions are being taken away, skills are being taken away, it can seem as if teeth are being taken away, something that was an earlier issue he talked about. I thought you said Keith. That too. Keith is being taken away. It's a joy, that's true. It seems as if Keith is being taken away. I'm missing my husband. But it's like, what it really is is the mind is starting to see lack of value in the things of the world. So symbolically it's being represented as if things are being taken away. But that's just an interpretation. You know, there's no such thing really as being taken away. You have to really believe you have something before you can believe it's being taken away. And that's not the case. But to the deceived mind it believes it has lots of things. And when those things seem to be lost or taken away, then that's this interpretation of it. So those would be good to do just a review on some of Dave's stages of development of trust. We just did an Adrian, a fellow down there, Tom. When he came up here to this house to visit and go into things in his mind he thought he was like right about on level four. And we came over to talk about it and he just went over the first two with him. And that was it. And he went back and he started going over him and he went oh shucks. I'm just on the first I'm on the first one. I thought I read these before I thought I was on four. But you know it's that whole thing of and also when you read him he talked about periods of unsettling and the later anything after two was pretty advanced. Really. I mean in terms of the teacher of God, wouldn't you say? I think a lot of people read through them and say oh wow yeah sure. I've done this, this, this, this. I'm in between four and five or you know this, that and I think that's not always a parent. Do you want to take characteristics at levels? In the trust trust. And we could go over them sometime like I did with this fellow Tom about you know initially it really does seem to be more of a sorting out in terms of situations and behaviors because that's all the mind believes in. The deeper you go it's more of a sorting out of thoughts. But initially the mind thinks so much of situations events and behaviors that it really starts off as which of these situations is most helpful to me.