 So design is everywhere and everything needs to be redesigned and rethought and it's something that you know in your position as you know the director of the AAD program here at GSAP. You know you're bringing all of this to the program which was already very much a sort of space of critical engagement, a space of argumentation, a space of experimentation, but you've expanded that to sort of push or invite students to consider questions of scale and how to work collaboratively with other disciplines etc. Tell us a little bit about some of the transformations you've brought already to the program. Well, I think the program is a legendary program that brings together some of the most interesting students around the world that already have a degree and already have questions and sensitivities. What I think is the great potential of the AAD now is that it's putting together an ecosystem in which people can bring here their questions, not only what they know but what they know that they don't know and that they want to develop and they could find a place to do that. And basically we believe that architecture is relevant and that architecture can make a change basically and we're supporting all these sensitivities to grow at something that could transform the world. And we're in the center somehow of many discussions by being in Columbia, by being in New York but also by being in the world in the way we are in a very independent way in a way that we believe that we can reinvent the way things work. And that means also to break down the discussions into a number of new terrains in which architecture can find and it's already finding an opportunity to grow and to bring relevance. The AAD program is being able to mobilize probably some of the most exciting and intelligent and equipped people to discuss this and we're very happy to convene the students that have those questions and that can bring them to this ecosystem. I mean the school has always been kind of a sort of space of experimentation with drawing and with digital sort of expression etc. And now, I mean the drawings that are coming out are like just kind of so, they're planetary is what I like to think. And do you think that you know through these new modes of representation and kind of hybridizing analog and digital again in new ways that we can kind of find ways to recast this question of scale? Yeah, I think this is a little bit of the core of many of the discussions that we're having. In a way we see that in the past there was this distinction that architects would work at a very particular scale and they would care about that scale only. And there would be planners, urban designers thinking of the larger scales and then there would be industrial designers or other people looking at the smaller scales but that's not the case anymore. And we're here in G-SAP and in DAJD championing a change of paradigm in which basically we understand that whatever architectural artifact to gain a role in transforming contemporary times basically needs to operate simultaneously at many different scales. It doesn't mean that it has to be at the same time an urbanistic project and a tiny microscopic project. It's that at whatever scale it operates it's somehow creating an effect and gaining an agency in those other scales. And that's why we think we believe that there's a great need to look carefully to what is the way architects design buildings because what we're doing basically has the possibility in what we're doing looking at transformations that could happen at tiny scales, at large scales from the work that we do. This is something that somehow it's a reflection on the world and the way it's challenged now. And what is the way that the times that we operate are not only the kind of 10 years of a building to be kind of assisted but it's something that also have a geological dimension that has to do with the materials that it mobilizes that has to do with its consumptions and therefore needs to be taking care and catering for processes that are thousand years long. But also it's about the way for instance tiny, tiny transformations chemical processes or biological processes are happening in microseconds and what is the way that the decisions that we take at the scale of the building are also transforming and making an impact, having an impact in those other scales. This is something that was not the discussion 10 years ago and that's something that I love that the AAD has the speed to grab these things and to champion them into the discipline.