 Hello there folks Welcome in live to the CRT bunker and First off, I have a very special announcement that I need to make everybody on this channel aware of today And that is That your boy Steve has been officially commandeered and is currently being held down in the County County Courthouse After his spat on Twitter this morning complaining about his local Taxes on his fancy pants Audi car so Just let you know that we don't mess around and for the time being we have commandeered This studio and this show today and happy Halloween. I am your newly elected sheriff of retro tech County and my name is Cathode ray justice and that's what I'm here to do is serve justice to this community starting with another announcement Another announcement folks. I need your help You see, I only get to stay here if one thing happens And that's is if you hit the like button So that's what I need you to do as a newly elected official here I need all the help of the support of the people that I can get And if you're able to click the like button, then you are officially a resident of retro tech County Okay so Please folks do that for me And that way We can keep this party rolling alright Now what kind of what kind of law would I be if I didn't appoint a deputy? and I was sitting around Sitting around with my notebook of potential candidates for deputy so Let me introduce to you the first official deputy of retro tech County my friend mr. Tom bum Please Come in Hello deputy Tom bum. Oh Tom. Yes, Tom. We are all impressed. Please time. Yeah Please Tom. Yeah I'm here, baby. By the way Tom bum doesn't know how to type. It's top bum top bum. Oh, sorry Deputy, I wrote that wrong. But anyway, we're good to go, baby. I'm gonna bring some justice I got those who have incorrect resolutions I Got people who are using the wrong cables unshielded. Nothing makes me angry an un Shielded analog cable Hope you've got them HD retro vision. I hope you got them shielded cables Otherwise, you never know what's gonna happen to you. Isn't that right chef justice? That sure is right deputy, but why don't you do us all a favor and try to zoom out a little bit? So we aren't all stared at what you had for breakfast this morning in between those two teeth of yours There you go. There you go. There you go. That's better. Thank you. Thank you to all the people Thank you to all the people. I hope that you continue to smash that like button for these two buffoons Who've commented this show today so we could bring to you a story of a resurrection on this hallows eve Halloween, baby. We're bringing the dead back to life today in the fall. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord for he Gave us this gift today. He gave us this moment this miracle. We thought all was lost Reasonable person would think all was lost, but this miracle worker justice Sheriff of the town of Katho Ray. He's doing miracles He's getting miracles. Can I hear a hey man? Absolutely folks. Oh I hope you I hope you all having a wonderful halloween And I hope I hope we haven't run you out straight out of town yet But there is a true story here and we do also have to thank another person another man Who dared who dared to give this challenge to the sheriff and that was Mr. Howard Howard you are a stud You dropped on this amazing Howard Howard's a viewer who stopped by the Retro Tech booth, which we're gonna talk a little bit more about on today's program and He said hey, I have a gift for you. I love your show. I have a gift for you and it was this amazing KV 1396 R but He said it was shipped And it did the it looks great on the outside But it did the old rattle on the inside and this thing was you know It was giving the old boot from UPS and treated like a Paul piece of you know Paul piece of meat and Just kicked around like I say down with those heathens. They're going against the word of the old my dad Yes, kicking around You'll be kicked around in the CRT after life So we got this right? All right before we go too much further. Let's do some shout outs to the good people of Retro Tech County All of you shown up. We have the regulars here. We have mega cards to I can't read hardly with these gal I hit glasses ugly wags Mike We have Eric Windows XP. I love Windows XP to Jim Nardekia Thank you for coming Joe J Snuffer snuffer. Welcome back serene Ronnie Rollpats Brandon Arnold demon 20 child Let's see. I think that oh Belmont, of course. Thank you for being here. Absolutely Honorary Belmont. You are the honorary deputy of our chat today And you've been deputized with a blue wrench, baby, so you must respect Absolutely, they are deputy deputy top bum bringing it up the rear with a good old right good old body blow biscuit butter Welcome back. That's right. I'm take watch out. I'll take you to the danger zone, baby. How way a thrill mr. Meow stick I Think a thrill mess. Yeah, sorry. Thank you for being here. All right. There's the shout outs people Andre. Welcome back. I Hope y'all having fun Let's see what we're up to. I don't know if the sheriff could remain on duty. Oh We're only at 24 likes we're gonna need we're gonna need some more likes here We're gonna have to get into the real story. We're gonna need to get up to 30 I like how this has become a home shopping channel now. Oh, I haven't got enough callers. I'm gonna need some I need you to get on them phones. Okay. I know it's Thursday. I know it's 11 o'clock 8 a.m. Eastern time I know you see a bottle of whiskey by your newly elected sheriff But don't worry We've got things under control Okay, that's right. We're locked and loaded here now We're gonna get into it Because today again, we're gonna talk about Howard Howard's lovely CRT dropped off to the show I'll also be glad to tell anything else about the show with you and we're just gonna let you know We're gonna let things simmer here for a minute while the audience gets warmed up because that's what we do On the bunker. So I got my light gun here. There's little retro futuristic style also good for the ladies if you know Oh great says you just read or deputy just ran off the two ladies. They were actually watching the show And got the channel demonetized Yeah, double whammy double whammy Mmm, that's right good. So the show so how much did you give us the background Steve? How much did you share yesterday yesterday's dream so we don't double up? Well, we talked to you know talked mostly about the sales how I sold everything Yeah, kind of talked a lot about one of the last sales of the show which was a kid really inspiring story I almost cried on the stream Beautiful, so that's right. People are really getting to see them the softer side The softer side folks People getting to see the softest out of it. Yeah. No. Oh, he's a real soft character That's right, you know So we got into it. I did I did Oh, yeah You're right girl. Most girls do hate him unfortunately. Anyway, I Got into a little bit. I said, you know, how are to drop this off I said that we've been definitely talked about because this repair was epic like But you should see the way to see the condition of this CRT and the way it started and You know, we can we can swap over here and I mean check it out, you know, there it is right there Howard cam. Look at that. How's that? But you got this thing working. Oh, yeah, well, we've been spilling the heck out of it. Everybody knows it works Now because they've seen all the videos and stuff or on Twitter, which I can't believe it whatever X Twitter, man I can put out a video about a CRT like 15,000 people viewed in a day. It's nuts There must be some big-time CRT watchers on Twitter nowadays or X whatever they're calling it Y'all whether whether only loses who are left on Twitter apparently not. Oh, yeah, I guess we just watch it 17,000 times So This lovely little beauty has gone through quite a transformation So just to show you a quick thing on what it actually looks like, you know So we're gonna we're gonna go over here and what I'll do is I'll prepare I'll prepare the screen because I'm gonna probably take us both off Well, I just pulled that over I'm gonna take us both off picture for a second And we'll look at just a kind of Let me expand that out. We'll get it ready and we'll watch some of the The videos here and I think that should be okay. So we're gonna We get started there. We will We're gonna look at them. But yeah, so this one and this is one of those Amazing CRTs that I've always been looking for right like the wood grain It's got the wood grain panel on it and the better thing is it's not even just like RF only Okay, so how did Howard did he already make an arrangement with you that he would bring it to the show How did that get set up? That's a that's a good story. Okay, so Howard Howard comes up to the booth and like Howard is Howard is is on the Probably the the older spectrum of my viewer base. I mean he's retired. He served in the Korean War and he like serve for their army for his entire career and retired, you know and He he came up and he's like Steve's man. I absolutely love Your show and he was like I saw your episode that we did together talking about Starting a market. Okay, and he's like I want to do the same thing where I live with V VCRs. He's like I love VCRs and VVHS players and I said really he says yes so I'm training myself in the same way since I retired to work on them and Of course, I'm always using those. He's like I don't play games on CRTs But I have tons of CRTs that I love that I that you know, I'm collecting and things and so Hang on. We got a little watermark. It was both who cares down there. Sorry for the little Optical illusion for you folks That is not your display that's my display anyway, he You know, he was great. He great. It talked to me for like 45 minutes We had an awesome conversation about this about the ideas of opening a shop how he would be doing and I was like That's awesome. You know the people people need stuff like this people need a place He's like, yeah, you know, you're talking right You don't have to invest a lot of money being in the flea market idea if you want to go start there It also gives you space to like at least be putting things in some of these more expensive areas where storage costs as much as some retail spots because like retail space is suffering and storage is always at a premium so He was saying you know, so we had a long conversation did it's always this thing well, Steve I Have a I'll be at your presentation, which I did my presentation said I'll be at your presentation and But I have a gift for you And it's always when someone says that it's always like oh, okay You're a little nervous, right like here I'm always I'm always wondering if it's like, oh, I got a gift for you. It's a it's a trititron. It's not not working I'm all this out. This sounds like something more than a gift. Maybe And he said, you know, it's a KV and I was just waiting for the number because I was like if it's anything over 20 I'm gonna die. Yeah, and he was KV 13 96 R and I was like, oh, yeah, okay, great sure He's like it's beautiful on the outside So I've got Howard has Three eras. He has a movie room and his man cave He has three eras of Movie setups in there. So he has the 80s to early 90s, and it's all these woodgrain CRTs and the profile stuff Oh, and it's multiple TVs laser discs VCRs from that era, etc And then he's got you know, the next generation of that 90s and then on in a third generation of like the early 2000s and so it's like So cool Video file is like so I love this stuff and he's like I bought three of these KVs and This one just showed up and didn't work. He said I don't work on the CRTs And so I wanted to give it to you and just said it was rattling around like I said So that's I said absolutely, you know, I'll take that so he brought it to me in the box And it was packed horribly and just left it and I said absolutely. Let's put it under the booth We left it there Saturday So that's how it sounds legit. Can we get Howard on the podcast somehow? Maybe so I don't know if Howard has that kind of a setup Maybe cuz dude, I mean he's got a man cave with multiple eras of VHS Multiple CRTs with multiple pleb this dude sounds awesome. I want to chat with him I mean, maybe he can show us a little bit or even just sit and talk with us about his love of VCR So do you have a contact for Howard? No, how I think I gave Howard my contact if we said he reached back out to me. Okay, Howard You got to reach out to us. Yeah, we want to talk to you. You sound awesome Yeah, I guess we can even do just a phone call if you don't have anything else I'll be sure whatever you've done. We'll work it out the phone even we give. Oh, yeah You put your phone up or something like that if you haven't got that but you're being ages Steve Maybe this dude's super legit Ha ha ha We're gonna say I'm an elected official. We all have our problems. Yeah, wow Hey, race errone and Conway, thank you for coming folks again We're getting close to that time. We're gonna switch over and Let's see where come on. Come on. Give us a few more likes here. So we get this thing rolling this show is un-corporatized Un-sponsored and all we have is the luscious feeling of knowing that the message is being spread out there further My the algorithm will only do that if you push the like button. So you guys are awesome I will you guys are awesome. Steve's doing a great job being consistent a couple times a week That's what it's about the consistency, baby There you go show you there. I see so many people turning up some people who want to listen to this guy every day Listen to us you have her on That's right you more there We're gonna look into the story of this KV with the woodgrain coming from Howard the legend Okay, so just to give you a little bit of a build-up to on the story here and then we'll switch over I've got the tweets already so I can show the pictures. So I went down to the show and Let's take glasses off for a second. It's hurt my eyes all right, I went down to the show and We We had set up everything. I sold all I sold four of the five CRTs by Saturday evening And so I only had that one lonely Magnavox Left Sunday and I'm not that's the story I told you yesterday about someone Magnavox That was the heartwarming one and the young bloke. Yeah, but What I did was golly, I'll tell you the truth. I was just So I was hungover like I Don't know, you know, I was bad. I was in bad bad shape Sunday morning And that's the truth after spit it all night. I mean like I said, I was up till 3 a.m. with crazy, I mean just you know Enjoying the moment. Good at some good times people and faces you recognize this or displaced gamer there So some of the oh, yeah, and then meet and mark from classic game room And so we were all hanging out, you know till way way and I was the one who stayed up the latest, of course And the funniest thing was again. I told you yesterday. I didn't have actually a room at the hotel and My car was left at the convention they locked the convention up So I had to crash in an extra bed in Mark's room tries and The funnier thing is it try doesn't even drink So he's the one sober guy and I walk in at like three of the morning in the room and he's like, alright, man Good night. I'm like, you're still awake. He's like, oh, yeah, I can't sleep that great And I was like alright and and so I just crashed and we you know slept till about eight And then I woke up and then I had you know, oh my gosh to feel awful and I didn't have any of my stuff there You know I was just wearing the same clothes So I was like awesome. I'm gonna get to do the old walk of shame, baby walking out the hotel wearing the same clothes you wore last night And Yeah Anyway, I rolled down to the lobby and they got the cotton old breakfast I'm like, whoo, I'm gonna get some chocolate milk some coffee some water. I tried to eat some eggs It'd be while like the show promoters coming out. I'm like, how you doing, man? You feeling alright? Yeah, and another guy's like wow wasn't expecting to see you Up at 8 this morning. I was like, yeah, I Got quite a bit things to do so I had to actually call an Uber from the hotel and get an Uber back to my car at the show and Then I got in my car and drove to my sister's house Which was like 20 miles from there Took a shower cleaned up brushed my teeth and went back to the convention and then I was rolling around this convention Sunday just like this Smiling the whole time and I'd be like walking past the other guys hanging out. I'm like, how y'all doing this today? And I was so up and down and like woozy and I'd be like fine for five minutes I feel like I'm pretty good. Oh No, I don't feel so pretty good And so I would go back to my booth as I got need to do something to concentrate for a little bit Sounds like I'm gonna I'm gonna see what's going on with Howard CRT in this thing. So I opened the box And this is like a disturbing looking box, you know, it's one of those nasty ones. It's got all this weird writing on it You know, you're wondering if it's actually got a head in it or something Like the seven box. What's in the box, right? So Pull out the CRT it looks fine from the outside and then yeah, I just hear the rattle. So that's where we'll pick up I started then thinking wow, this is rough, but I have nothing to do and So I'm gonna try to fix it and there's like Sunday in the morning. There's nobody there at the convention yet. So So you're hanging around you got nothing to do at the convention Oh your presentation. It was already on the first day. Yeah, as well as the second day, which was Saturday. Oh, okay, so Yeah, okay. Oh three days. Yes, three days. So three days The point is you weren't doing your presentation while hung over a sin. No way that's and that and like I say so I also sold all the things but one CRT. So my booth was like silly I was I was like booth looks terrible with just one CRT So that's why I pulled I had two tables and I pulled out all the tools and set up an entire workshop At the second table and I had nice power and here's very big room and it was crazy There was like this booth fan that would blow and just literally suck all the solder fumes They didn't even get in my face So it was like the end of bright light and I was just sitting there and I was like, all right I'm just doing it and I just started doing it and So that's where the pickup that's where we'll pick up. That's where we're up to Yeah, where we're gonna start looking at Howard CRT And we're gonna check it out. I'm gonna I'm sorry. I'm gonna switch the view over to where I believe it's just gonna be Lewis or Zez deputy top Bum and then I'm gonna take you away and we're gonna get over here and we're both just gonna see everybody's gonna see the same screen here No, you guys are fine There's no reason to worry about being late You're actually just right on time because this is the part where we're talking about the actual repair, you know This show takes a 23 minutes to get going Come in and say hello. It's halloween. Have some fun Yeah, we're chillin. We're chillin So we see some photos already of the desk And as we have found out steve's got this broken A beautiful old CRT with the wood grain. It's been gifted to him by a legend Howard and Mr. Hangover he has got nothing better to do On sunday, but think plug it. I'm gonna whip out the tools. So you had the tools. How come you brought the tools with you? Just in case I got bored and I told the shot or I told the guy I would just bring it and You know when I was at the retro world expo with The last group of people I was really happy to I was really happy to have access to tools because there was a couple of times I needed them like a Solid art. I even brought caps and stuff But I didn't need anything like that. Okay. So this was this was the this was it Um, we're looking at the first picture here This was The set and there's the other lonely stuff, right? So there's the gifts I got I pulled out some vhs tapes tubes little couple things. They had the crti for sale And this was the workshop area I had set up Nice. So that that last other crt. That's the one the kid board. Yeah. Yeah at the very end of the show And to go in here. Yeah, I took the back And it was super Super obvious. What's wrong with it? What could you be? Oh my god. What an easy What an easy uh troubleshoot. I was a troubleshooting genius Well, hmm my man of years of investigating these electronics I don't think it's supposed to be aerodynamic like that Oh, so the box has been kicked in from the back. So All right, we've got this neck the neck board Look at this thing like a wafer Yes, that's the thing. It was it was really like in multiple pieces there Barely hanging on together by a few joints and some and some still remaining parts And the thing that I was surprised was there was no damage to the tube somehow like the tube This bore the brunt of it and it just shattered around the neck socket as opposed to Uh breaking the tube as well, which would have just been in pain and awful that would have been game over Right. So I saw that and I was like, you know what there's not this isn't it looks brutally awful But this isn't the most complex neck board and let me see Uh What else did because there's a point where All right, so challenge accepted. We're going to watch a little video clip here. Hopefully all right Okay, so this kv we got it cracked open And I'm sorry I found the obvious here. At least I clicked the out the other one next to it next to it that one That one dumb me. All right. Let's go back Okay, so this kv we got it cracked open the neck board off of this fire and uh I found the obvious problem here with the seaborg board. So I'm going to go ahead and hey Circular cracking around the middle and some other cracks that emanate out Have go heat it up. Get the tools ready Yeah So this was sorry. There was some more audio running there That you probably can't hear No, okay. So that's it. Um, yeah, I just muted it. Sorry There's like two shouting matches going on. That was pretty fun All right, so that's the issues that obviously that neck board I'm trying to see where I put if I put a picture of that neck board anywhere else in here Let's check this thread and uh So anyway, I said I was going to fix it And I tried to fix it and I did fix it. I can't believe I don't have more pictures of this thing Um But it didn't it didn't still didn't work Uh And that was because I I did not see this Which if you look closely at this picture, you'll soon notice This gigantic crack This crack all the way up there, okay And this is directly where the power comes in like the power cable It goes from the wall to right here And so this is literally cutting the power right at the source Like it's not even plugged in so there was never so even after I um Fixed that I can't believe I don't know. I must have must have not uploaded them But anyway, this is the this is the other thing. Maybe I will see hopefully I do have some pictures of it No, this is good. I think we get this idea. So this picture demonstrates a number of things to us. We can see the crack You can see how far it goes right through it and and weirdly how Cleanly it's isolating the power. So of course, nothing's getting power But it also says as you alluded to that this set is so old that a lot of these circuit boards are like Not that complex Uh big traces. I mean look at those freaking huge traces. Well, that's what I did. So I look at this right here, right everybody So I look at this. I'm like, you know what? This isn't even that bad If you look at this from this crack perspective, it cracks through here Where there's literally nothing it's cracking through the board parts The only crack that the only part of that whole thing that matters like you say is the actual power part Uh back at the beginning of the picture I keep right so above the one Right, all the rest that crack doesn't matter. It's just down here as far as getting it to a test. So I did Um, I have to have pictures of that when I fixed it Have to have to have to let's go back to the post spec section and uh Oh man Did I put any more pictures under this one? Let's just check this thread. All right All right Let's go back Do you have any ability to show us the actual back today or it's the probably not going to work very well on stream The pro well, I've saved a bunch of those. Uh I saved a bunch of those You got them on your phone. Could you transfer them? Well, I do but no, I've like I've got so I've got I'm going to make a whole video about this. So I've got way more on it. I just need to go back down here where the Actual stuff is okay. Sorry about that folks. So I thought maybe I put some more in here I cannot remember everything because obviously I was still hung over obviously that's that's the problem. I think so So what I Let me let me turn that volume off so you can see I'll pop this one out And this was I had finally I fixed that spot. I swear. I put some pictures of that I swear there are somewhere Let me see. Um, we're gonna we'll talk about it in a second And uh, and I'll look for those pictures. I'll put the picture the screen back on us I don't have to find them because you got to see what it looks like when when it's pencil puts put back together So this was when I first got power to it. I couldn't believe it that light came on And I everything I tried to do nothing to this point Hmm So that's that was it for that one and then I have one more video, but while I look for that video we'll come back and talk about it a little bit and I'll Pull this over here. So Basically, it just had a butt load of broken traces I've got to find that but I've got to find the pictures. I know I'd posted pictures of the repair part I had to if I think I was just so good. Uh, yeah, so I would be very interested to see the repair and I think everyone would as well if it's possible. Um, so Stuffer stuffer stuffer stuffer stuffer says when you repair a broken trace Is it enough to just bridge it with plain old solder or do you need to use wires or pieces of donor trace? So this also is my question as well. Yeah, very interesting to see some of that how I mean we could start with the The power Because that's also quite a lot of power. It's not a very small board. So you can't just put some You can't just put something that's just like raw to where it's gonna go and let me Let me let me open up. I'm gonna send I'm gonna send Hopefully some pictures through our discord chat and then I'll pull them up Because I know I have them in my phone of the actual repair And uh, so we'll send that one and that way I could pull them up on my screen um Okay, here we go. All right, so I believe that's yes. That's the repaired neck board. Okay Here's the actual so this I'm gonna pull these pictures up And We'll look at them together. Uh first which one do you guys you guys want to look at first the neck board Probably or the let's start with the power board. Yeah, because that's a little bit That's a little bit easier. So let's go do that and then we'll We'll Span that out and we'll Put that over You and we'll get real high tech. We'll go to the dashboard here. All right. So this This is the repair Uh, not very complicated. You can see it again I was I'm gonna be honest with you after I did all after I did all the work to the uh After I did this second like I found this problem second. Um, let's see what else did I do? Oh, I went in I refloat solder on all these areas too. You could kind of tell. Okay. So that's uh, Those points did they need re-flowing? Yeah, because it was a little bit compromised and I didn't want to like leave it You know, those have taken some of the movement there Like where those inductors are and that could have rattled that joint even though it didn't get a break Some of those parts are in between the break sure Okay, so this isn't a while. Yeah, you know, I didn't I didn't bring any wire. So I salvaged this wire from my demonstration yoke So that's where I got the little bit of blue wire I cut it and stripped it and put it in like that and I was like, well, that's pretty solid for a test, right? So that's how I repaired that so if that you could tell all So this part from so this is where the ac comes in right you have the black that was on this one And then which goes over to a fuse and off and this is the white In america and then So this was originally going to this point on this transformer Which was broken. So I jumped that Same thing had broken here. So I jumped that over to this. Uh, so those two points Those two points at the top, uh, they're like equal because they're on the same bit of trace, right? It just yeah, these two are the same. Yeah, they're all in the same See how they're all the same thing together. They're all supposed to be together. This is All continuities on this. This is the same path Okay, so it just happened that you just put the one you could have put the one for example It wouldn't matter. Yeah, I mean you could have done this any real way. You could have probably just shaved this You could have probably just shaved that and honestly blobbed a solder blob on there if you wanted to I was just worried about It like shorting out to get something, you know, you don't really want to have it bare too much under there It's better to have some shielding. Yeah, if it flexes a little bit more, especially with so much power It's yeah, that's the main main power I do even need to go in and clean it up But clean it up some more because this one this one's kind of nasty But it all needs to be eventually serviced. I was just doing this again to uh To get it now, let me see if I can go to the neck board So does anybody have I'm not able to let I haven't been looking at the chat Does anybody have any questions about that before I change the next one? Uh, not so much. We've got some discussion here. Uh, we're talking about different methods of doing it, but we can move on Excellent. All right, so let's let's open up the neck board. This is the one that was This is the one that you know is original. But you know, maybe a little bit more iffy. So Yeah, I guess through the cracks. Yeah, I guess if we go So Over here Yeah, there's this gigantic Can you see my cursor? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. So my cursor showed you first off. There's a gigantic crack right here which Actually went all the way and all these cracks kind of like go to the actual neck socket you can tell So there's a crack right there hits the next socket There was a second crack right here hits the next socket goes around the next socket around the next socket All the way across so this was barely hanging on basically by these other solder joints And cracks cracks cracks. This was highly cracked over here in this area Yep, and All of these points I had to put fresh solder on because all the joints were rattled So is it here that the crack has mostly gone through a point? And all this is affected up here. Oh, yeah, it's gone through all these points So here's but here's something interesting again It comes up here and even though it hits this sub bright thing All I had to do is reflow solder there because that's not connected to anything right there So that's pointless goes around there. It doesn't hit anything again until it hits here at the color red or color blue So right away. It's broken color blue broken color green and then even goes over your broken color red and then It kind of stops over here g1 all those basically broke where they were Rattled free So I this is okay. Go ahead. This is the repaired version Yeah, this is after I repaired it because you could see where I botched everything together or yes Yes, so I used just the legs. I didn't have any wire. I told you I used saw used scrap or extra capacitor legs To run the jump jumpers where I needed to but the thing is is this is such a low There's not a lot of complex stuff going on in this section of the board Why that's the only reason I had come confidence like if this was there's no chips This is all you know if you had to you could just wire all this Without the board lucky it didn't happen at the top because that looks yeah, that would be way worse if it would have busted up here So let's go down go back down again to let's say kb to the blue So the crack has gone through the points They're like am I seeing correctly So Like there's half the point is on one side of the cracked board The other half is on the other side of the cracked board So if you added some solder and sort of bridged across that crack, that's how you fix that particular Point right it just needs to be resoldered and then I resoldered just the other things over here because that's all it's connected to is this point the from these two resistors R719 and r717 and then that goes over to the color blue So it's so So simple that you're like well all I need to do is make sure this path Is solid So I just refloat solder and got them all to do that And then of course after every time I do that I would run my Multimeter over all of this and make sure that there was continuity Because you have to that's all you have to do if there's continuity then you know your joints good And your welds are good or whatever and See and then you get over here and these are even simpler. They only have one resistor going to the green One to the blue Not much over here going to g1 Same I mean this this while the cracks bad in the board. It's basically you just need this path to maintain Uh, it's it's continuity and then sure the one that was like the worst is this this break For example right here Okay, where easy just to bridge it. I just yeah, I just used that to bridge it with that Capacitor leg. Okay in the chat, uh, mike wags was asking, uh, are you going to eventually Glue the cracks or what what would be your next steps then to make a more permanent solution to this? Yeah, this is pretty wacky So I was thinking I would come in here and probably epoxy these areas without even removing it from the tube Because it is so flimsy Then I'm afraid it's going to just break up if I pull it off and try to work on it some more So I'm going to have to come in here and use some epoxy and inject that and try to solidify this whole thing Uh up a little bit not too much because then I will glue it to the tube and then I'll never get it off So I just have to do it's where I get it off and then Uh I would come in here reflow all the solder on here And once I have it off, I would see if there's an option of of reinforcing that more Which it it's such a simple board and I'm not really that concerned about it because once it gets epoxy it's fine really it's not It's not that bad. It's not something I would ever ship. It's going to be in my personal collection There was also some questions in the chat about uh, how did this damage occur because you've got the shroud or the plastic casing So was it I know or dropped on the on that on the back That's because the the the plastic on here now If we go over to the tv it shows literally no signs on on the outside anywhere of an impact Which is just insane right because you would think You would think that there would be some kind of damage Right This is the theory that was we were talking about in the chat I don't understand what this had hit and somehow it Like because there's a lot of space. I have no idea how how it moves and smashes and smashes that internally But it happens. It's like something's flexing there and something's not I guess because it put this plastic on this shows no signs of any kind of Wear and tear damage really it's it's the most and it looks amazing. It just looks tremendous It's got composite 1986 Oh, beautiful. Good. Yeah. It's a good composite and rf composite and rf Uh, there is a remote. I think for it obviously because it's got a remote sensor so I have no yeah, it's a baffling thing to think that You know, I've seen it on the back of a pvm Where it pushes because it can push that plastic in and that plastic comes off the rivets and hits the neck board But this is kind of nuts because it's all one's two solid pieces Uh But Yeah That's great. And how do you uh, what do you think it'd be generally about the geometry the state of it? Did you have to have you done anything more to it? No, I haven't it still needs some work because if you look It's got it's definitely got some purity stuff going on My camera's glitching a little bit Action camera's been glitching out a little bit. Let's see here. All right cool So we've got right off. No, right? There's a little like guys. I need to dega was wanted. I've not even done that yet Uh, but there's a little bit of purity All right a little bit. That's a bad. Okay, but it looks pretty good. I mean if you look at it from like a let's go over here Yeah, I think it's in 1986 It's never been like Service at all like that's just straight out of the box for composite Look at that Looking just fine. I think very interesting again I would love to talk to how it's you know, how does these other sets look and you know What also would be super interesting to talk to how it about from he's got the perspective of vcr laser disc Like of the units that are producing stuff, right? Like what does he use to calibrate? What does he have some? VHS that he sticks in Yeah, I don't know. That's a good question. That'd be fascinating. No, I so one funny um One funny thing that we did try to do so in the in the uh before Before the my presentation. I was sitting there with chris this place gamers and we were he brought a uh It was a Piece of test equipment from tectronics that that was a signal generator Ah, I would love something like that right and so we were using it. It was cool. It was just like the 240p test suite with uh, no It was it was in a little extra on size box like and and it had it would do uh Analog video for composite Uh s video And component out of this machine And so it would give you all these amazing test patterns And even more than the 240p test suite had that were different for the standard back then Uh, the problem was is we started using it And then it started glitching out a little bit and it had such old caps in it that it just went poof And you immediately smelled rotten fish and I was like chris that thing just fried itself So you don't have any sort of signal generator right? I do but it's bad. It's it's huge and it's Got all bad caps in it also and it's like worse. I wanted to get this one because This one would have been easier to recap it'll have about 10 caps in it And I would have done it at the show, but all the cap values were wacky Like really no it was really really high micro farad caps like 4,700 and things like that that I did not bring That we're not standard that had blown up. So it was a cool piece of equipment I would I would love a signal generator and I thought for a little while now it's sort of that one I don't have any sort of signal generator And it's the one sort of thing that I think I don't have something of that. I'm kind of missing I've got a nice bvm got some cool switches. I've got a nice dvd vcr combo I got a bunch of you know interesting shit to work with But not a signal generator. There's a channel that y'all should watch. I link this one to you steve There's a youtube channel. I think it's a matt's tv barn And he's this uh British guy who's got a lot of old video gear and he specializes in video signal generators So he's got some really nice crts And he's got a load of different signal generators. He's got a few of them. I think they're phillips from memory I can't remember and he they're all one u rack mounted things And he's got an ntsc one a secan one and a pow one and he's got a bunch of videos where he puts them on the scope And shows them those and I would love love love something like that because as soon as I saw there was a secan video I lost my mind. I was like, oh, this is awesome. He's right up my street And I've been trying to get this dude on the podcast. He's having a little break. He's he's uh moving the house But uh, i'm trying to convince him to come on the podcast and chat with us about signal generation and crts and All this good stuff conway is talking about in the chat our riser api running 240p test would be cool Yeah, so something small. I mean you could do your mister mister does the same sort of thing as well It's not supremely portable You know what might be interesting actually is um, well sort of is uh, right, um I was gonna say a raspberry pi or if the new um Like a time slooth Could include something like that like instead of one of the displays I can just program in a test pat Display but then again, that's only hdmi so Probably the mister is the most portable analog video signal generator we've got right now. What do you think state? Yeah, I think you're right. That's what makes these old devices so intriguing and um, one of the things that I had been looking at was like a laser disc Uh thing but those on ebay are like 200 bucks a piece So the only way I was going to do that is if I got the museum job and I would put it roll it in with the cost on that A laser disc player or some sort of generator. What do you mean? Just a literal there's like a commercial standardized laser disc that has test patterns on it. Oh Like a proper disc like a laser disc with patterns and things The only reason I would the reason I would do that is because the museum job is on laser disc So it would absolutely make sense to be calibrating it based on laser discs. So I made um For just for my home here the most ghetto. I know we've talked about it before a ghetto 240 or not a 480i test suite on dvd So all I did was I went to google downloaded a number of test patterns Uh in 16 by 9 and 4 by 3 like just the plain Jpeg or whatever found the simplest dvd authoring software I don't really know how to do it very well found some janky stuff and just created a really simple dvd That all it does is display that one image for like five minutes or something Yeah, and has a number of different images. It's not meant to be scientific It's not meant to be but if you quickly need a test pattern on a dvd Hey, it'll get you going get your way you need to go Yeah, we go through the let's go through the chat. Yeah, I was gonna say let's give some more shout outs Hey guys, if you just coming in late, don't worry. We did go through the repair on this Um, we'll talk a little bit more about it But please if you haven't already uh and you're new or coming in drop a like for us if you haven't yet It still will help the show keep going and uh get some more folks in here. Well, we got a good-sized crowd I see watching right now Uh, let's say uh, brian harmon showed up. Thank you dimo kerby Thank you mario Conway for coming into cousin hubert Go ahead So brian makes an excellent point that another portable Retro video generator could be a nomad with cables Uh, so if you had you had such a thing Uh, that would be a cool thing like snuffer as I was saying you could just make your own dvd Pretty easily now this one from mario the power version of virtual fighter for the satin has a c cam compatible reference on the dual case What is that mario? Do you know any more about that? Does it just mean it would or? I gotta look into what that I don't know. Is it just something they wrote like it'll work. I didn't even know that There's not such a thing as a c cam pattern So that would be very interesting. Okay, we're gonna Right, we'll just make a little note about that. Do you love my do you love my obscure c cam stuff? All right, there we go That's right folks. Yeah, so I was uh A mister is probably still the most portable signal generator Because I was thinking the reason I was thinking about this is because now there's the time sleuth The wicker wacker has produced this homebrew project the the mister lag tester and it's essentially a time sleuth but it's using just a photo diode connects to the mister and it could still be portable if You ran your mister off a usb battery if you were using retro castles Version that allows usb c then it would still kind of technically be portable and you're asking yourself Why do you need a portable time sleuth? Well, I mean, I've got my video where I was lag testing inside of a 1500 seat theater Uh, I had then a time sleuth was really useful Um, oh that time I ran the time sleuth off a usb battery as well. Now I think about it So What do we got go through? Yep. Yeah, the problem really is is kind of such a pain to set, you know You have to have so much kind of equipment sometimes to run that It would be nice if there was something more portable now. There are like an x there's an extra on handheld Um But I didn't really like that very much that one. Of course, I don't know any of those Let's say there's the extra one. There's the one that uh That I think you said displace gamer had sorry, I think you're saying so these commercial ones Oh, yeah, we see the purity these commercial Uh signal generators, Steve. Do you know do any of them output 240p? See that's a problem not natively like they'll only put out like 40 or higher, but um Yeah, so not this is where the mister would actually be The optimal solution Because I can I feel like the mister would be better because you could really pull up, you know, so many different So many different styles of the 240p thing right if you could do that Uh, but then of course the problem is when you're messing with analog video You're always if you're going based off a console It's almost there's every console with the analog video signal has some little imperfection or something with it pretty much There's not a perfect one This does sound like there's scope for super mega nerds like us that again It's just one of those wouldn't it be lovely thing that Someone could produce a mister core that outputted signals Uh and different signals and gave you adjusting because a lot of these units have adjustments that you can make and different variations and settings and I know there is a uh, Mister native 240p test suite that I think Keith Rainey. I want to say Keith Rainey's involved but he's involved with all the stuff That's not so I don't know if he was doing it himself There was an attempt to put the 240p test suite like on bare Metal so to speak and it's not being emulated by a console. It's written directly into the fpga So it wouldn't have the the see it's probably in your I think it's with update all I don't know or have I got one there because I don't know I'm not sure but I know someone was working on that and all it had was the The grid pattern the first one that you pulled up Uh that it has that So I don't know if there's been some progress with that Daniel in the chat test pattern generator v2 Uh, are you just good at naming things or is that a thing that we could investigate? It says it says it's for arcades. It's got it works with cga Oh, okay. So that's everything is going to have its weird oddity almost with it where you're like Well, this doesn't do everything I want. This doesn't do everything I want It's almost like there would be a nice to have just like a Special mr. Tester edition or something Which you could build I guess Some maybe uh, who knows? I mean now we're really talking far fetched kind of stuff But we've got projects like mistex that is attempting to bring the mister to lower priced Yeah, right implication being smaller FPGAs So imagine a smaller just the smallest device possible that's got a analog out somehow I don't know. I'm really making this stuff up or an f or a hdmi that uh Allows you to use it that that we are the smallest device that could do a 240 p-tile test beat Would be kind of cool. Yeah, but the thing is is um It would be nice If that would happen that would be something that would be good for that like mistex project So you wouldn't have to so you could run you wouldn't need that heavy hardware to run in running those Stuff so kind of getting the mister setup to do that is a bit overkill And kind of expensive For most people just to run as a test generator now for me It would be if you don't already have a mister as conway says mist is a pretty uh expensive to professor womb whom My man Yes, the monoscope. It was the pattern. I was looking for before the as far as the last version that I have of this native 240 p test suite for mister. It only has the monoscope But yeah, if it could run on a smaller cord that would be cheaper Maybe just like the smallest chip that's got I don't know like a d sub out or something Could probably really be rigged up that way And as brine is saying yeah that That has the potential to give us the most pure Signal out or at least give us options. So if there's not one pure truth of Signal out it could be configurable Yeah I think that you know, eventually this will all come because it's not it's not that hard, but it's Like you say you could do it right now would just cost a little bit more to be doing it the easiest way I guess to try to get going uh But it's something necessary To the chat. Mr. Mario E. Uh, have you got a link if you've got a link made uh, maybe maybe you could just link us on twitter I'm at zezz steve is USA retro. Um, yeah, they won't let you They don't get the links there They won't let you with that and youtube will block the link if you put it on there. So yeah, sorry about that So with conway so conway saying as hell, uh To look into a raspberry pi now could a pi Be a good, uh signal generator possibly Um, but a pie that means the signal is still made in software and it's not The hardware generated version like an fpga based solution. Maybe mr. Maybe something else So it is one of those you could get a pie with uh, with composite output I'm not sure we would need some more technical that to know could that pie actually Give us the detail Actually give us the level of settings and control that you would need to make that maybe maybe not. I know there's a lot of Small fpga is coming out right now. Let's go down the chat here. Hey, let's let's do a little challenge here guys Let's do a little challenge over here. People keep saying let's I don't mind. I think I've got oh crap Maybe I don't but I can go get it uh, we could set up and uh We could see what happens if I try to dega's this set with the wind Okay, great. Yeah, how about that? Let's see what we got we got 45 people watching. We got I think we got about 61 likes Get us to come on guys Let's get over that threshold now. Let's get up to those 70 likes for halloween. Come on There's got to be nine people in the chat who can do that now. I'm gonna let louis I'm gonna let louis keep deputy. I'm gonna let deputy top bum here take it to the rear and while I go commandeer A dega'sing one from wherever it may be We'll hopefully get to that threshold so we can do a live dega'sing and see if that works and then guess what uh The next challenge will be whatever maybe I'll take the back off and we can see how it looks again after live here What the actual board looks like all right. See you in a second. All right. All right Steve's gonna get the dega'ser We're gonna see what we can do with the little red patch of impurity at the bottom of this beautiful beautiful Sunny crt. How many likes for halloween zap my man body blow biscuit butter I was also thinking the same as soon as Steve said i'm gonna take the back off that thing I was like, oh dang. Here we go crt safety man here. We're getting into this. Someone's gonna get zapped Steve's yes, aca aca. Thank you very much for the 60th lake there. We appreciate that So we'll do the little stuff. I mean god knows Steve. He might even get the dega'sing wonder than The electrocute himself with that thing. You won't even need to pull the back off it yet So this is the sort of stuff here. Thank you very much for joining Conway. I wouldn't use a pie for serious calibration to do a quick check Absolutely quick geometries check something you could plug in via composite. Absolutely now I see where you're coming from with that So a pie with a composite out could be a very simple way to do that if you could somehow rig it So that it auto boots into the testing software or some sort of signal Yeah, the time sleuth with a signal generator built in would be kind of cool kind of funky Maybe they can maybe there's a way. I don't know. Maybe uh, they can replace one of the the tourney options Steve is the father of sir Yes, if steve's the father of crt safety then called child protective services. All right, you know what i'm saying Oh, here we go. The one's coming out He's got the wand in the box. So We're gonna find out as well. I don't think this is one of the cheap chinese wands. They will give us more of the info Uh, because if you're getting the wands that you get from aliexpress are basically just Like a power cable wrapped around a bit of metal and that's like it super dangerous As with all crt stuff is anyway, so I suspect that steve's got a higher quality Wand Okay, professor womb We is a good way to go. Absolutely. That's another good one. So the we is a really good choice. You can output 240p It's got the 240p test suite. It's got your 480i. I can do 480p Uh, I think that's it. It doesn't do up to 720p. No because that was the we you So the we is great and it's home brewed. It's got 240p test suite pretty easy to get going pretty cheap as well Uh, I'll look at my region. I mean, I think you could still get cheap wands Especially if you're just looking for some shipbox we that's all being banged up if you don't need to sense a bar You don't do nothing like that We can be a very good way to do it. We is one of those ones as well that uh, the Composite cables I find they're not too hard to get I've noticed in my area like composite cables for the we still come up pretty regularly quite rare to find the official we scott cable Uh for us euro pal lovers I don't think I've ever seen that but When I I know the the we's are being used in pal area is either composite or I've seen I mean I've seen Component cables around here, and I don't know why There's not many sets with components So I don't know why I see so many weak component cables around here, but that's a nice flexible option steve Are you there with this man? Now this one tell us about it. Is this uh, is this a Ali express special or is this something no way This is this is this was back from when a store Used to be a round called fries electronics Okay, and it was a giant It's still available online. It's the biggest most powerful degosing wand. You don't want to get the cheap ones because these is uh It's a very heavy Well, it says intermittent duty, but it's pretty darn strong So It'll actually start heating up On your hand because it's just generating a bag big magnetic field Sure, it's just power running through Wyres over a bit of metal like there's nothing just hear it in there Sails like a tambourine in there So i'm gonna take my magic wand I'm gonna take my magic wand and we're gonna get it. I know right 69. What are we waiting on folks? Let's get it one more One more we'll get this we'll get this sucker set up We'll get it set up Oh, yeah, I see it now. Uh, I believe we're ready for on Here we go You're the next one. I am on the on the chat. They're aca aca mate. Uh, you're we skat cable Is it original one? Uh, are you in a power territory? Tell us about it because they're they're super rare. We Skat cable tell us all about it Micwags degars coil 30 to 60 seconds on when I one hour off. Yeah, look don't fuck around with your degars cable, okay Uh, doesn't one work any better than working with the inbuilt degars that is on a pvm or a professional monitor Let's see what steve says actually. I don't know the answer Steve's Demo Kirby's talking about retro games prices. Um, yeah, I don't I would broadly agree with you that They're not going higher I don't think they've necessarily dropped to the ground or they're going down or anything like that, but You know now that you make me think about it. I would say i'm broadly seeing More reasonable right and uh, you know, it was never going up and up forever and It feels like there is some sort of broad agreement that the Market fixing that was happening with water games like the worst of that is done And the worst of the sealed hype is over So I think there's still strong demand. I don't think our hobby has gotten less but the hype generated Sorry about that more reasonable. Okay, sheriff. Where are we at? Sheriff man? I had to go. I had to go set things up for a second. Let's see See what the other camera looks like now and uh We'll go and see how Summer is here still talking about we scar cables. Absolutely agree. Uh, you you can get some high quality third-party scar cables. I'm thinking of retro gaming cables in the uk. I think that uh Retro axis in america also make them for you. I've got a couple of retro gaming cables uk cables the scott versions and they're awesome. So absolutely high third-party We scar cables could be All right. Where are we at? Oh, we got the 72 there deputy. Good job Way to get the people riled up And get the community going. We got it. We got enough So steve as we as you're unwrapping that talk us through a little bit What are the differences better worse whatever between a wand and between the built-in d gals in a professional monitor? well The built-in uh The gals are nice, but this you have more control over and it's more powerful even than the most powerful Now the ones that are in the trinitrons that are new the uh and things that are professional are usually Stronger, especially if it has a button for it Uh, but even in those sometimes you can get purity issues that can't get cleared up without this So this is like Your last resort and this one may not be an issue with maybe it is an issue where it needs an adjustment Or a magnet added it's so old maybe a magnet fell off when it took that big hit. I don't know um Yeah, you get a lovely shot of the oryxl vacuum. I saw somebody Oh, yeah, that is my basement vacuum. All right before the camera goes crazy I don't know how the camera is going to react to this uh d gauzer one But what i'm going to do is i'm going to run you through the process of actually doing it here live And I will take this thing and I will energize it and I will come in uh from about a foot away And I'll get and start making a slow circle and come towards the screen And it'll really distort everything And then I'll try to back out and as I back out I'll make the circle bigger Till I get out of the range which is about back to the desk here And uh, so we'll try it. We'll try it a couple times. It's only a little bit of a process So, uh, let's go ahead and get started guys. Thanks for all the thanks for the amazing Participation on this halloween. Let's do it. This is fun. So what I just learned From steve's explanation there is there's a whole technique to this degausing one thing That look at the air. He's like a magician. He's like a slight of hand You know, it's like steve with the ladies, right? You got to rub small and then rub big and And you start with this there's there's a technique, you know, just sort of just, you know All right, oh look at that. That's crazy Okay, small little ones small little ones now big ones now big ones Now big one it is wax on wax off Yeah, so you can see we'll do it again, but this one is something Where it's going to need an adjustment because even after doing that and balancing we just balanced it But it didn't actually Get rid of the problem Does the top left corner same bed offer? Is that just the camera view? The top's fine Okay, it's just basically the bottom corner where you see that pit that little pinch of green And I'll do it here in a second once this thing Cools off just to show so people can see it again on stream What's up, Abe? Thanks for coming. Yeah It's uh, buddy It's obviously an issue inside Right, so the the the magnet thing and the the analogy that I often use when thinking of what the problem is now Is there are magnets that that sit on side inside and they'll sit around the tube That will help this and it's a little bit like when you're getting the wheel on your car What is it when they put those little weights on there aligned a wheel alignment? And they have to put those little weights on there to make sure that your wheel Goes straight It's a kind of similar idea that if the degausing one doesn't work for this one Steve's gonna need to open up and then there are little magnets that you can either apply or move the current ones there to sort of See if you can adjust that. Yeah Yeah, you're right. That's what we're going to do. Uh, let me see if I can find a link for that Oh for the degausa. Yeah, I don't know if there is one, but we'll see But um, oh, yeah, you get like harry potter wands like pleasure pleasure wands Week uh next week my girlfriend and I are going to london for like five nights four nights five nights something like that Just like to have a nice time away in london and she's a huge harry potter fan So we're going to the harry potter like exhibit at some huge thing. I don't even know exactly what it is I just know the tickets cost me a butt load But you know, she loves harry potter. So i'm very happy to support anyone's geeky Inclinations, so yeah, we're gonna be waving wands around and walking down diagonal alley And uh, has anyone here in the the chat of our alfred dear bean to the harry potter Exhibition or theme parky thing or whatever that it is the main one anyone on the chat been there Let's see We'll see I want to know what i'm getting myself in for i gotta watch I think I found a good link here to learn the law On here's let's go over here to the see if this let me put this in the youtube chat This is one that's the longest link it might not even let me post that link Oh, here we go. No, I see it. I see your thing. Let's bring that up Amazon Okay, yep, that's the one you've got gc. Waldo you may be able to find a cheaper Dude 86 bucks. That ain't cheap. No fair enough, but that's like the the big one Okay, but you can probably find a cheaper I don't even think that's an affiliate link because i'm not logged in on this computer So it's not a problem, you know, you could search around for it That's just an example of anybody for anybody here, but yeah, it's uh It's It's something that if you own a lot you have to have, you know A lot of people have it now. There's a smaller green one. That's like 20 bucks. I've never used that one That is this little small little pockety one. Yeah, it's not as it's not as powerful as this one This is like the biggest one that you can pretty much buy anymore I mean that sounds like the ollie express a bit, you know, kind of you maybe we'll find it on your end there Yeah, maybe all right ollie I'm gonna, uh, I'll do it one more time for the folks who just showed up And are hanging with us. I'm gonna go. Yeah, let's do it again. Let's go one more time. I'll change the color this time Show and then uh, we'll come back Okay Do it do it do it do it again Do it again. So, okay, we're back to the 240p test suite. We've got a solid color on that red Okay, shake it, baby. Shake it, baby. Yeah Actually Let me see something else here, too I try What do we got what's he gonna do? Oh, what's that? Okay, a small little sort of pointy magnet Daniel Gonzalez says I've used the green degausing ones. It works, but it gets hot that sounds about right because it's just inverting electricity It's a magnetism, which will also have the output of heat as well So was he now he's getting all juju on us. So he put a magnet on there to sort of Play with it and now he's doing these little motions Steve with the motion in the ocean Wavy wavy waving a little bit. It looks less It's still there unfortunately Is it's less though? No or not. No, okay. I don't think so. I have to open it up then But that's a little demonstration on uh on the magnetism right there because Let's see That's actually the uh presentation I did when I did my presentation that I showed I did that exact same thing with the pvm only I uh Let's see I did the same thing with the pvm only I was able to Clear it up all the way, but that's when people go. Ooh When you start like drawing on the screen and then you're like a magician Yeah, small uh I was just looking at ali express and the small green ones that are janky Get hot as uh, we were talking about in the chat Daniel was saying so I've seen one on ali express right now for five bucks We should tell you about the quality five bucks. Guess how high quality that motherfucker is Make sure you have one of these A nice fire extinguisher A glove maybe like you won't get a big big rubber glove that will insulate you like Yeah, yes, but I would worry for your safety. I've never noticed that fire extinguisher there now. I see it. Okay I've actually got two of them in here. It's very good if you stick to have you know Yeah, what can I say? all right guys, well, uh I think we go for a little over an hour. Does anybody have any other kind of questions or anything that we're talking about? Mike is just saying the green ones aren't worth your time. I would I would broadly agree with you Mike That uh, yeah, I mean that's kind of the thing if you want to digows You're looking at 60 70 80 bucks If you're gonna do it right, yeah Yeah, the first ones will move the convergence will move or the rings will move the purity. I don't know that it's um Let's see. I mean, I'll definitely do that. That was what that's sometimes gets messed up, too I had a 1405 that happened with it got The purity got messed up by it taking a hard bump and shipping And it had to actually be reset from factory Right on so we sort of digowsing we saw it today Yeah, that's kind of cool, man. So that said it. So what's what's before as we close out today, Steve What is next for that set you're gonna keep working on you're gonna do other things. What do you think? Well for now I'm not gonna. Well for now. So here's what I do. I do have a full video. I shot a bunch of footage of it When I was actually doing the show that was just some things I had Release on twitter so that it's probably gonna be next video. It'll be about a 10 minute video on the actual repair and fixing it and uh So that's what I'll do and then next, you know I've got a lot of a big list of repairs for people that I have to work about so that Yeah, that's gonna just sit over on the um the rack for a while till I have Free time if that ever happens again So I I think you could very uh handsomely Set already not a massive massive thing, you know, enjoy it a little bit Just enjoy a few games on it. I was watching the running man on it last night when I went to bed I got old Arnold Exciting life of Steve. Yeah, that's it. That's it All right guys, I want to say thanks to my buddy Zez Deputy for coming in today and always hanging out Happy to be here. Love it. Love these live sessions dude. It's great. I love talking with you I love our longer chats, but these sessions with the people in the chat. It's so much fun I have that interactivity to have the the enthusiasm that y'all show for what we love doing what steves an expert at What I love talking about Is great. So I really appreciate that they really make it fun for us. So thank you to everybody Absolutely. Yeah. Thank you always guys. You've got this show is really about community having fun and and uh Kind of coming in here. I mean, I think it's quite unique You know, try to have a little fun laugh a little bit and get into like some weird nerdy technical stuff and So I'm uh, I'm always happy to be here and do it. It's been a lot of fun I mean, I can't believe how much the last month has gone for streaming So before we get out of here My last bag hit the like button for us on the way out if you haven't already If you want to go back and catch the rest of the show or any episodes of the bunker They are all on a playlist every episode so far is on a playlist on my channel And uh, so that will be ready and and these are all on demand there anytime you want to go back and enjoy Thanks again says we'll catch up soon and uh See everybody next time Bye