 If you want me to continue with my work, it is crucial to support the channel via Patreon. Moreover, make sure to subscribe to Bobby's perspective on Rumble. All the links are in the description box below. May Allah bless you all. All right guys, welcome back to the channel. If you're new man with Bobby Guy's absolutely fascinating video today, we're going to see the first Christian critique of Islam by a man called John of Damascus or how Christians call him of course Saint John of Damascus. John of Damascus was an Arabic speaking man. His real name was Yuhanna Ibn Mansur Ibn Sarjun. He was an Arab Christian monk, a priest, a hymnographer and of course an apologist. He was born and raised in Damascus around 675 or 676. It was around 720 when he finalized his work The Fountain of Knowledge. It entails philosophical chapters concerning heresy and exact exposition of the orthodox faith. And within this work quote unquote Saint John of Damascus critiques Islam for the very first time. So this would be an absolutely amazing read because we see one of the earliest church fathers roughly 100 years after the prophet Muhammad Sallahu Salem attacking Islam. He's one of the OG's of the enemies of Islam. I'm super excited for today's video guys. If you enjoy my work leave me a thumbs up, subscribe to the channel if you haven't already and check out the links in the description box to further support. And now with no further ado let's have a look. All right we are on the Orthodox Christian Information Center homepage and here we can read Saint John of Damascus critique of Islam. He writes there is also the superstition of the Ishmaelites which to this day prevails and keeps people in error being a forerunner of the Antichrist. So this of course very interesting because nowadays we have Christian apologists, we have Christian evangelicals and they always claim that Islam is the Antichrist religion etc. So here you can find that it has its roots in Saint John's of Damascus writings. But what I personally find very interesting here is that Saint John acknowledges that the Muslims are Ishmaelites, Ishmaelites descendants from Ismael and hence descendants from Prophet Abraham. He proceeds they are descendants from Ishmael who was born to Abraham of Agar and for this reason they are called both Agarines and Ishmaelites. They are also called Saracens which is derived from Saras Kenoi or destitute of Sarah because of what Agar said to the angel. Sarah has sent me away destitute. So as already mentioned here John of Damascus fully acknowledges the prophetic lineage of the Muslims being descendants of Abraham himself. Here he writes these used to be idolaters and worshipped the morning star and Aphrodite whom in their own language they called Habar which means great and so down to the time of Heraclius they were very great idolaters. From that time to the present a false prophet named Mohammed has appeared in their midst. And here you see how extremely irrational the claim already was back then. Just a few years after the prophet may peace be upon him this man John of Damascus one of the early Christians, one of the early Arabic speaking Christians already calls out and says prophet Mohammed is a false prophet he is not a real prophet and this is what echoes into this day and age even nowadays of course we hear the same rhetoric over and over again. He is a false prophet but it is extremely irrational. Why? Because the man here himself just described that the Muslims back in the day used to be idolaters and now they're not anymore now they're pure monotheists. So if prophet Mohammed brought the message and turned the idolaters into monotheists how can you then make the claim that he is a false prophet? Absolute nonsense. Mohammed has appeared in their midst. This man after having chanced upon the old and new testaments and likewise it seems having conversed with an Aryan monk devised his own heresy. So this is really why I want to share the writings of John of Damascus with you guys because those arguments that presented now by Christians are nothing new. From the get go once Islam started you already had enemies of Islam. They were already in opposition giving you absolutely false irrational arguments like this here he conversed with an Aryan monk. That is a conspiracy that you probably heard quite often online. Why? Because it was John of Damascus that was writing about it. However with no proof whatsoever because mind you John of Damascus comes 100 years after prophet Mohammed sallahu alaihi wa sallam. He has no proof whatsoever he just makes this up. Yo well this sounds a bit like Arianism and for people that don't know about Arianism it was declared a heresy within Christianity because the followers of Aries did not believe that Jesus was God. They still believe that he is a son of God and some certain metaphysical attributions to him but nevertheless they did not prescribe to a trinity and because this pure monotheism looks similar to Arianism which looks in turn similar to monotheism. Oh well it must have been a Christian monk. Oh well this of course another heresy that has been copied. This claim has been debunked a billion times over and over again because if prophet Mohammed may peace be upon him would have copied Christianity then he would have copied the mistakes found within the Bible as well. We do not have those mistakes that we can find within the Bible and moreover if he truly wanted to copy Christianity he would have copied the Greek mythological and philosophical claims such as the trinity. Why would he call to pure monotheism if he copied Christianity? It doesn't add up one way or the other but the point of the story is just talking about this I realize people are so far removed of Tauchid they're so far removed from their own fitra they really do not understand what pure monotheism is even if it stares them right in their face when they're reading the Old Testament and they find those glimpse of pure monotheism when Abraham is submitting his will to that one God or where Jesus speaks about worshiping one God alone they don't even see that anymore and all they see is oh well trinity must be the truth because the church fathers told me so and therefore anything that removes the trinity must be a heresy and therefore a false prophet why do you make it so complicated man the Ishmaelites this how you call them used to be idolatrous they let go of their idolatry and return to the worship of one God this is exactly the same thing that Moses called his people to do people were worshiping golden calves and whatnot people would always be called back to the pure monotheistic worship of one God if you believe that that is a heresy congratulations you've been brainwashed then having insinuated himself into the good graces of the people by a show of seeming piety he gave out that a certain book had been sent down to him from heaven he had set down some ridiculous compositions in this book of his and he gave it to them as an object of veneration and honestly those are the great scholars that Christians refer you to or read Saint John of Damascus about heresy such a masterful work it is absolutely ridiculous of course man look what this guy is writing first and foremost we know that the prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam went into the cave this is where he received revelation once that revelation was heard by the Arabs during that time and mind you they were heavily interested in poetry poetry in Arabia was extremely sophisticated already but none of them have ever heard anything like the Quran this is where the Quran attracted people it was not because the prophet just handed out that book and told him hey venerate this book now oh such a ridiculous book look how unsophisticated those claims are don't you see this those are writings of an absolute idiot man when people heard the Quran they started weeping they couldn't contain their emotions because they never heard anything so beautiful in their life and the challenge stands to this very day the Quran tells us produce something like it if you can't but people are not able to produce anything of such eloquence it's absolutely comical that this John of Damascus doesn't give us any proof he's one of the original trolls here before the invention of the internet he does not say go read the Quran yourself compare it to the bible see what it says no no no he says right away no it's so ridiculous haha don't even read it he proceeds he says that there is one god creator of all things who has neither been begotten nor has begotten exactly he says that the christ is the word of god and his spirit but a creature and a servant and that he was begotten without seed of Mary the sister of Moses and Aaron for he says the word and god and the spirit entered into Mary and she brought forth Jesus who was a prophet and servant of god and he says that the Jews wanted to crucify him in violation of the law and that they seized his shadow and crucified this but the christ himself was not crucified he says nor did he die for god out of his love for him took him to himself into heaven and he says this that when the christ had ascended into heaven god asked him oh jesus did thou say i am the son of god and god and jesus he says be merciful to me lord thou knowest that i did not say this and that i did not scorn to be thy servant but sinful men have written that i made this statement and they have lied about me and have fallen into error and god answered and said to him i know that thou did not say this word this is truly amazing yet again because i have to repeat myself to this very day those arguments are being brought forth over and over again being debunked and then they bring him forth yet again starting with this john of Damascus it's absolutely hilarious so the point of the story is he finds ah jesus is the word see we were right he is the logos and then for the billionth time the muslims give you the explanation word of god in this context simply means that jesus is an exalted messenger of god that brings you the message of god he received the injeal we believe the original gospel so this is the word of god that he brought forth to his people he brings the word of god into this world hence the honorific title if you will word of god but i know there's two complex and too complicated for christians because christians when they read in the bible son of god they believe he is the literal son of god he continues there are many other extraordinary and quite ridiculous things in this book which he both was sent down to him from god but when we ask and who is there to testify that god gave him the book and which of the prophets foretold that such a prophet would rise up they are at a loss and we remark that moses received the law on monsignor with god appearing in the sight of all the people in the cloud and fire and darkness and storm and we say that all the prophets from moses on down foretold the coming of christ and how christ god and incarnate son of god was to come and to be crucified and die and rise again and how he was to be the judge of the living and the dead then when we say how is it that this prophet of yours did not come in the same way with others bearing witness to him and how is it that god did not in your presence present this man with the book to which you refer even as he gave the law to moses with the people looking on and the mountain smoking so that you too might have certainty they answer that god does as he pleases this we say we know but we are asking how the book came down to your prophet then they reply that the book came down to him while he was asleep then we jokingly say to them that as long as he received the book in his sleep and did not actually sense the operation then the popular adage applies to him which runs you spinning me dreams so this classical christian cherry picking at its finest of course they take moses and allegedly somehow the people saw how he received the scripture which is not true whatsoever he receives the scripture at Mount Sinai and then comes down so nobody is there with him witnessing that act he simply comes down with the stone tablets this is what the people see but be that as it may even we would say hey here the people saw they saw him coming down fine how about Noah how about Abraham how about all of those other prophets did anybody see what they received as revelation no they were in touch with god they were in contact with god the other people couldn't see it so those people came as prophets as warners to warn their nations there's a common narrative within the old testament but this is of course willing fully ignored here by saint john let's continue this is a funny part moreover they call us heterists or associators because they say we introduce an associate with god by declaring christ to the son of god and god we say to them in rejoinder the prophets and the scriptures have delivered this to us and you as you persistently maintain except the prophets so if we wrongly declare christ to be the son of god it is they who taught this and handed it on to us yeah exactly and the Quran says that your ancestors were not guided either so you simply take their word for it and say hey guys well this is what has been handed over to us and therefore it must be true this absolutely ridiculous listen to the statement that is being made you are associators per definition because you're not praying to god alone you call him the father sometimes okay if you would just pray to the father so be it no you're praying to the father you're praying to the son you're praying to the holy spirit you're praying to mother Mary and you're praying to saints nowadays some people this really true pray to this man saint john of Damascus he is a saint so please intercede for me saint john listen to my prayers and deliver them to god god is very busy he cannot listen to my prayer please saint john deliver my prayer to him this intercession this association and therefore yes you are associators but some of them say that it is by misinterpretation that we have represented the prophets as saying such things while others say that the Hebrews hated us and deceived us by writing in the name of the prophets so that we might be lost yeah speaking about the Hebrews that potentially deceived them sure could be because saint Paul originally named Saulus was a Jew of course that came with a different message and therefore yes it is absolutely justified to assume that you've been deceived and again we say to them as long as you say that christ is the word of god yeah he had again and spirit why do you accuse us of being heterious for the word and the spirit is inseparable from that in which it naturally has existence therefore if the word of god is in god then it is obvious that he is god in the beginning was the word and the word was with god and the word was god if however he is outside of god then according to you god is without word and without spirit consequently by avoiding the introduction of an associate with god you have mutilated him it would be far better for you to say that he has an associate than to mutilate him as if you were dealing with a stone or a piece of wood or some other inanimate object thus you speak untruly when you call us heterious we retort by calling you mutilators of god yeah again building a fantastic strawman here really now reading this ancient text here you understand why christians argue the way that they argue this truly is spiritual battle between muslims and christians between falsehood and truth of course and to this very day they're just regurgitating the same damn lies over and over again yet again nobody says that god has no word that he is a rock stone as this man claims here no of course not we believe that the quran is the revealed word of god as well sure however when we're speaking about jesus we are speaking about an honorific title please do not take everything literal i believe you can put one in one together i actually am wrong you can't one plus one plus one equals one i forgot nobody is mutilating god as if that was possible in the first place we simply say that jesus brought the message of god hence as the messiah he has the honorific title of word of god i know it's really hard to understand they furthermore accuse us of being idolatrous because we venerate the cross which they abominate and we answer them how is it then that you rub yourself against the stone in your kaba and kiss and embrace it then some of them say that abraham had relations with agar upon it what but others say that he tied the camel to it what okay wow they've been really liars from the getgo that's quite shocking to be told to be honest the point of the story is we as muslims know of course that the kaba itself is not an object of worship anything on those sorts but from hadith we know that prophet muhammad apparently kissed that stone however it is not to benefit us or to venerate that stone it is more about emulating the way of the prophet aka the sunna we try to mimic and copy what the prophet has done but yet again this is not an object of veneration henceforth it is an object of direction if you're speaking about the kaba that's all now he proceeds with his lies and he says as has been related this muhammad wrote many ridiculous books yeah sure even though we know that he was illiterate and couldn't write but he wrote many ridiculous books to each one of which he set a title aha here here for example there is the book on women in which he plainly makes legal provisions for taking four wives and if it be possible a thousand concubines as many as one can maintain besides the four wives all right first and foremost there is no such book go figure however that being said the four wives is already a reduction yeah believe it or not because in pre-islamic arabia you could take as many wives as you wanted so the four wives is a limitation during the time people lamented oh why only four wives right but the christians here they're lamenting oh why so many wives write this just subjective yet again there's nothing to do with objective revelation from god in islam we can have four wives that's that you can be bitter and sour about it as much as you want to but that being said about the concubines even if it were true that you can take unlimited concubines fine how about king Solomon is he not a prophet within christianity of course he is and that prophet had 300 concubines but that's of course not enough because he had 700 wives of royal birth and 300 concubines which adds up to a thousand women around him so now if Solomon was a prophet of god which the christian would agree with of course and he had thousand women around him of which 700 were his wives what is exactly your problem with having four wives and concubines it's always a simple critical double standard man doesn't make any sense whatsoever christians stayed the same for the past thousand something years he proceeds with his lies shamelessly then there is the book the camel of god about this camel he says that there was a camel from god and that she drank the whole river and could not pass through two mountains because there was not room enough there were people in that place he says and they used to drink the water on one day while the camel would drink it on the next ah okay now i get it so what he is describing here is the story of the prophet salih and this is something that we can find within the quran and not in a book called the camel of god ridiculous salih was sent as a prophet to the tamud people who are known for their wealth and arrogance one of the miracles associated with prophet salih was the miraculous she camel that emerged from a rock so i did the prophet stories and if you've been following this channel then you saw this story as well this is found within the quran but this shameless christian that is dead now anyways claimed of course that oh there's a separate book the camel of god all right this is for today's video i'm going to cut it off here however i'm going to link the whole text in the description box so you can read it in its entirety and decide for yourself if this is good criticism or not for me it is quite amazing to see the christians over the past millennia have not improved their arguments they resort to the same tactics of lying and slandering making things up the book of the camel of god the book of the woman yeah yeah sure man nice try ultimately guidance is up to our law and therefore we can say alhamdulillah for islam alhamdulillah we are muslim and we are happy and satisfied with our faith of course thank god man we don't have to associate partners to our god in order to live our life quite the opposite our life is free of confusion because we believe in one god alone alhamdulillah yet again therefore i want to end this video with some words from the quran the truth has come and falsehood has vanished indeed falsehood is bound to vanish many many religions have vanished over the millennia religions with thousands of years of tradition but falsehood is bound to vanish this is just what it is look at the restrainism for example it vanished even though it had a rich long tradition falsehood will vanish because it simply cannot stand the test of time therefore you see in this video this is absolutely nothing new people always try to fit god into their own mental constructs they try to attribute something to god but all of that is false god is one only one return to the worship of one god alone i hereby invite you to islam all right guys and this is it for today's video if you liked it leave a thumbs up subscribe to the channel if you haven't already and check out the links in the description box below to further support and as always guys may god bless you all much love and peace