 It looks like we're being live-streamed. All right, can you see us? Looking to see, I can hear us. I mean, I just had a warning. Oh, okay, so. I don't see us. I don't think we are. I'll be backwards on there. Ah, here we are. We are live. I can see us. Why do I look so pale? That's your natural. As you don't get in the sun. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm a moon tan. Is that that basket you sleep in every night? I know if I get in the sun, I don't tan. I stroke. Hey, we got guys in live chat. We're good. So let's wait until 12 and then we can explain. Dang, how can I turn off our same way because I'm hearing. Yeah, all you got to do is go in. Are you on the page? All I did was go in mute the sound and then pop out the live chat so it's separate and it comes up on top of your desk and you can see it. Oh, it's so confusing. You guys know how to do that? Yeah, I got it. I got it running. There's three little dots beside top chat. If you go hit those three little dots, it'll allow you to pop out and the chat would separate from the page. This is hilarious. I do. I spent five minutes on here before, you know, Mark, before this whole before we started, I was trying to figure it out. Now over here, turn around and I've got these things on where it looks like I'm wearing these things that holds your glasses on. Yes, I know them well. I know them well. It looks like I'm on hearing aids and people like, you've got hearing it. And I'm like, no, I don't have hearing aids. And then it's funny, the only time I wear glasses is when I'm sitting in front of a screen, you know? So you got to get a pair of these, man. They're awesome. You get a whole bunch from Amazon. They work. I'll try them for this. But of course, you can see anything online because there's no hair to cover anything, right? So can you can you see us live now? Yeah, yeah, for sure. I can't, I can't. If you go to our page, go to the channel page. You'll see an icon. Click that and bring it up. OK. And then you can separate live chat out from that as a pop up. Are we in the wrong spots? Scott. I think I corrected it. But because I'm not just said, please get in the right spots. There's a reason I said I'm trying to. And I don't know how this is working. This is so confusing. Hang on a second. Let me get Chase. Don't start getting the shits and giggles because if you do, I will. I won't be able to stop, dude. It's not funny. Be like those baby pictures of us. Someone did a great job out on the. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to have to look at both of these and see if I can get us. OK, I'm going to put me back over there. See if that changes. There's there's a delay, everybody. So I've got to wait on the thing to change. That's fine. Hey, Sadie, buckle up. We know you're there. Buckle up. This is weird. We're going to have half hate and half love. And that's when I guarantee it. Let's see. Hey, the behavior panel. Every time I. Oh, yeah, I see us. Yeah, we're live. Is Chase top right? I can't get this figured out. Let me go see how we look and I'll tell you. I don't know. So you should put me bottom right on yours if it's mirrored. I think it's bottom left. No, I would be. I'll tell you if you need to move us. Hold on. How's my. I knew we should have done this for more than a half an hour. It's going to take us 30 minutes to figure it out. All right. Some of you like to do that. They start to see we're not welcome. And we don't know what's coming in. All right. Big shout out to Scott. Scott, right now Chase is in Chase is where I should be. And I'm where I'm where I should be. OK, right now. But the way it looks to me is Chase is up where I am. Well, we're seeing what we're seeing what everybody else is seeing, though. Yeah, that's so I'm in the right place. Yeah, I'm actually the right place. Me trade me with Chase and see what happens. No, no, no, switch me and Greg. First, it doesn't matter. You got to do both. It's like, do you remember those things where you had to make words and you had to move the little. Yeah, you're right, Scott. Scott, you're right to move Chase first, you and Chase, and then move me with Chase and you'll be right. Move you. I'm not using left and right with you guys. I know that's a waste of time. I know I can't do it either. Mark's worse than me, though. Just so everybody knows Mark's dyslexia is so bad he can't drive. Yeah, I don't think I'm. Yeah, well, the police make school. The police may categorize me that way. I don't know. Oh, dude, you've got a you've got a serious adrenaline problem. So I just I just saw one as we're sitting here. I just saw one question come through there, which is, are we going to do videos where people tell the truth? Which I think, you know, that yeah, they have a lot. Perfect. There have been videos where we've said, hey, these people are telling the truth and they've been shown to be telling the truth for you come to mind. But we were talking about some videos just the other day, weren't we where we know that somebody's been taken in by the police and they're being questioned and they haven't done anything and they're being quite aggressively questioned by the by the cops. For example, if you if you were to go look at Cleo Smith, that's a great one. That's a great one because when you were early, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Scott, are you going to move us or are you going to stay this way? I'm happy. No, I've been moving. Yeah, I've moved everybody around. It's still stuck on my zoom that on my version this way. But online, it's something else. Yeah, because there's a lag, isn't there? So it'll it'll take it. Yeah, a bit of time. Four years. I sat on here for about five minutes and didn't know I was live. I was here talking to me, you know, you some all it was. It was horrible. Look, if that's all you were doing. Greg, you've got to get some of these, man. You've got to get some of these ear, these things that come to your glasses. I swear, man, it's. And I learned I got it from Mark. Yeah, yeah, these are great. You guys have hair to cover that stuff up. You know, I just got these big ears to hide stuff on. Or if you turn a rona, rona page here was saying, yeah, Cleo Cleo Smith is a good example. People want to see us recognizing that somebody is telling the truth. But Cleo Smith case is great. It's actually one of my favorites because so many people were saying these parents did something to their child. Yeah, I mean, statistically, that's going to be, you know, in the casino, statistically, you could, you could win. That's right, apart from when you. And Mark, one of the things I say to people all the time is everybody says how accurate is this what we're doing? We usually say if you're 50, we're 55 to 60. But when you get four of us together and we don't talk about it and we come to the same conclusion, chances are really good that it's much higher. Yeah, yeah. Well, it's interesting, talking about the listening to some people talking about the whole UFO thing and getting getting data from that from many different angles in order to get more accurate about what a phenomenon might be in in the sky. And I guess, look, you know, we can probably get more accurate than most because we have potentially four different angles in many in many cases on something. And the first time we discuss this, you guys are watching it live. I mean, you're watching us on video. The first time we discussed these videos, we don't talk about them beforehand. Matter of fact, Scott's really good at back when you stop if we start talking before the cameras. And I want to try one more thing. All right, you may not be able to move us. Guys, we know this is probably going to be and people are here. We can say we know that we might be in the wrong places. Just tolerate us for our first live with you. And next time we'll have it tighter. Yeah. Yeah, we got to watch up. Don't forget we got to watch our mouth on here. Or we'll just do it how we want to do it. No stress inducing here. So it's 12. All right. So let's go. Yeah. OK, yeah, you got me too. Guys, what we'll do is we'll take questions. Just a heads up. I've got Sadie in here asking me or sending questions as well. So look at these as she sends some goons and we'll use those as well. Sorry, Sadie. I was out of the this is so we just decided to do this the last minute. So it's a little confusing right now. Next time we won't be as confusing. Yeah, like like our channel experience, we are making this up as we go along. That's right on our analysis. But you know how to do this stuff. We're always making it up as we go along. Nobody knows how to do this. And Mark, somebody just to ask what is the subject? Anything is the subject of this intro. This first 30 minutes is us going to answer questions. Interact with you live. This is the best chance we have to do it. And then at 12 30, there's a premiere and it's about the UAP hearings at Congress. Oh, OK, there's one here. Look, how do you deal with unresponsive people? I think that's pretty interesting. How do you I'd like to hear that for Greg? You must have had some unresponsive people in your time. Yes, so there are a bunch of ways. Let me give you a great example. Now, this is a harsh example, but if you ever want to go see what harsh looks like, go watch. We can make you talk on the History Channel where we had a guy who refused to talk. We just use the people around him and made them really miserable until he gave up and started talking to us. And all we wanted him to do is answer some simple questions. What you typically have to do, however, is to just continue, continue. We use something we call repetition, you know, sentence repetition, question repetition. You just keep asking. Or among the best possible things is silence. Sit in the room with him and just listen. Josh, Jack Schaefer and Joan of Oro came up with a formula where they said report equals proximity times intensity. And if you know the bridge experiment where there's a young woman standing on the bridge and everybody thought she was more attractive because of the intensity of walking out to her, that's the way it works. You get there until they feel like they need to say something. That's the best way. Good. And I wouldn't maybe assume that the person's talking about interrogation in just everyday life. We also encounter those people who are kind of non-responsive. And in normal social human world, I would say people who are non-responsive will respond to two types of conversational prompts. Number one is a compliment on what they feel a little bit insecure about. And number two is asking them for advice about something that you're fascinated with and they're an expert at. So you have some ignorance about the subject and a fascination and they are somehow an expert or they see themselves as an expert. And you just described what Nolan calls a naivetech. That's a powerful tool. And the other with Nolan, the provocative statement as you age and you're sitting on a bench, you can sit and go and the person next to you may go, oh yeah, I feel your pain, my friend. Or you can yawn, that gets people started making conversation. The read technique has a whole thing on that. It's like there's a whole section on how to get through that, but it's all interrogation stuff nobody to be into. I don't think. Well, I think it could be either that could be asking both. That's good. Yeah. There was a question here which was, what have you learnt from each other? I think this is like the longest training that I've ever been on in my life. I don't think I've ever worked with the same people for so long, ever, ever, ever in my life so far. So the great thing about this for me is like I learn every week. Either I learn that I might be right, which is always good. It's like, okay, they came up with the same thing. That's interesting. Sometimes I learn that I might be wrong. I'm like, oh, okay, I've maybe got this wrong. But all the time I learn new things, which is, I mean, I can't put my finger on one thing because there's so many things, but I will say it's just, it's the longest training that I've ever been on. And it is like a training. It's great, it's great. I've learned so much. I have a special notebook that I take notes in when I learn stuff with you while we're recording. So like, if you ever see me kind of like do this while somebody's talking, it's typically I picked something up that jogged a memory or like I genuinely learning something new there. Yeah, it's nice. I know it all. So I think I probably, now, how can we not learn something every time? I mean, that's crazy even to think that. I mean, every time we do this, there's something, we all come from a different situation or a different direction when it comes from, when we're talking about the videos we're looking at. Mark comes from a completely different place than Greg is coming from and then we're a chase that I are coming from. And then Greg comes from a, not a completely different, but his interrogation is a lot different than my experience interrogation as it is a difference in Chase's experience in interrogation. So we all come from different, we approach it at different angles. So that's why we all say something different. However, a lot of times when you see when somebody's talking, you see this, you see this in our facial expressions, you just go, and then you see it marks something off. That means that somebody's gotten your thing that you're waiting on. It happens all the time. Nobody got, yeah. So, and I go last most of the time and I figured out why I go last because I talk first. I come in an intro and I'm always talking first. So it feels like I've already gone, I think, unless you guys have colluded against me. We've colluded against you. We've colluded. Don't you notice the hand signals that we're constantly doing? Yeah. No, for me, guys, I think it's a combination. Mark, you said it. I've been a corporate guy and I've been an interrogator. When you're an interrogator, you move every year and a half or two years when you're a corporate guy to change jobs. This is the longest running job I've had. And you guys, I learned something new every time we get together because it's a different angle. It's also a different life experience and a different path we took to get here. So we all have a little bit different nuance, which is why I say, if all four of us see the same thing, pretty close to sure we're on it. There was an interesting question here. What do we admire in each other? You know what I admire? I admire people who show up again and again and again and again. That is the like, and showing up and then sticking with it because in my view, that's the only way you can stand a chance of success is showing up again and again and again and sticking with it. And a lot of people just don't do that, but we seem to manage so far to be able to keep going. So I admire that for sure. Somebody just asked, what does it mean when somebody covers their mouth when they talk and I get complaints all the time about me doing that, because I do this and I can't help it. It's one of those things that it's part of a, you would call it part of my baseline. I do that a lot for some reason because I'm usually thinking, and when I think I usually do this or I'm goofing around up in here. So I think I do that and I get so many people that say, stop covering your mouth. I can't, you know, it can't see, I'm in the middle of something or I'm watching or I can't listen very loud and I can't tell what you're saying. So it's like, jeez. But it can mean everything if it's not part of their baseline and they suddenly cover their mouth. So keep in mind when you see us do things on here like you'll see a quick shoulder shrug and all that or like somebody said yesterday, Scott's eyebrow went up. He's not being honest about whatever it was. No, I'm not being asked a question. I'm telling you what I think about something. So these things that people attribute to you, to a person will say, ah, this happened. So that suggests or indicates that because this happened as well. If we do those in a row, we're not under any stress. We're not under, we're not being asked in questions. So it doesn't mean we're not being honest or anything about what we're saying. It's just, that's just part of what's happening. We may be thinking, am I saying thinking a lot? I wish I was a bigger thinker than I'm coming on as I am. But- Here's a great question. Great question. Do you guys consider yourselves friends or just colleagues? Oh, both. Both, yeah. Yeah, very much so. And one of the things that I think is cool about having us together is that Greg and I were both military, but we are very, very different in our approach and all four of us have what I would think was like these different camera angles looking at a situation. And a lot of times I'll be prepping for a show or like writing notes down and be like, God, I hope the dudes don't disagree with me. Like I- And because we never compare anything. And if all four camera angles are showing the same thing happening, I think that's when the true power. We have expertise, of course. We're top of our field. We're near the top of the field. And we're radically different backgrounds and viewpoints and what I would just call perspective. We have got the four perspectives here. And that's the coolest thing for me. Cool. Great. Great. Greg, what's the coolest thing for you? Yeah, no, I think it's the same. I think when we first pulled this together, we sat and said, what is this going to be? And we said, we're just gonna get together and talk about body language. And we progressively have gotten to the point where we, Jung said it when two people meet, they're like chemical reagents are never the same. The four of us speak a common language, a core language. Now we all use each other's language. And then new things come up all the time. And we all have a whole lot of common language. And I think as a result, people out there have our common language. It's the reason that being okay at Clark works for us. Yeah. Yeah. I think so. What about you, Mark? You know, I'm gonna go on another question here. It said, how long did it take for Mark to start to like Scott? Why do people say that? They say that about me. I still don't like it. They go and Mark talks. Scott looks like I'm reading. I know that. So we knew each other way before we started and started helping on this book with me and Tracy. I don't know, like a year or two years before we did this. I don't know. So, you know, be careful when you read body language. Yeah. It's a Rorschach test, you know? Yeah, it goes back to what I was saying just because you see something on it. Because when the other ones are talking, we've got stuff on our screen. A lot of times that's up there too. We're reading it. So we're going like that where it looks like we think that's what it will go. Yeah. And then we should totally be going up but we're going, yeah. Yeah, we make a show. We're on here for like two or three hours. And so all kinds of stuff is going through our heads. I'm like, you know, there's stuff happening outside the window that's distracting me. There's, you know, somebody will be, you know, cooking dinner or I should be cooking dinner. And I'm like, oh, I need to cook. And Scott has a raccoon in the attic where I have a squirrel in the attic. We've had that happen when we're recording. You guys just don't know what's going on. Where the colors go up. Here's a good question. How do you feel about the Lidamy TV show? It's from a question from Marta. Well, I like Tim Roth. Tim Roth is fantastic. I mean, number one, it's got Tim Roth in it, which I think is great. And it's a good drama. Is it accurate? I think some elements of it, some elements of it have some, but it's a drama, isn't it? So it's a, you know, obviously it's not true. Okay, there was an interview of him. And I actually talked to him once about that. He won't remember it, but I called him. To Ekman or Roth? Ekman. Oh, okay. Yeah. And I said, well, because you see that stuff and you go, hey man, what about this, this, and this? And he said, it's TV. Yeah. But what they said this and this, he said it's TV. And what they would do is they would, he was the guy that was in charge of everything. So they check with him on everything. But he said, when they would check with him, they just go ahead and do the thing they were gonna do already anyway. But they said, oh yeah, okay, let's take care of that. There's an interview where he talks about that as well. This was years ago when that show first started. I was like, wow. Yep, yep. I saw the interview. People would come over and we'd watch that. And I was like, this isn't right. So I was like, oh no. And then, because people would look at that and go, wow, that's the way I'm gonna do it. But it was, it's TV. He's right. It's a TV show, you know? So it's- Well guys, even when you do the real TV, even when you do live TV, like I've done the reenactments of interrogation for UK4, I've done them for History Channel, they have to have a certain amount of TV to what they do. And they'll tell you that. There's a certain amount of TV. I would tell people interrogation doesn't work that way. Well, that's what people think when they're wrong. Your version's boring, you know, it pretty much is. It's what I've always said to them. Yeah, yeah. Or when you're, if you notice like when we do the news, you notice that the parts they pull, like this one, I did this one where I was telling how I didn't think, how I thought, what's the name? Heremin, Rex Heremin. There are gonna be more people they found. And I did this, I said, here now, here's what's, in other words, I said, here's what's gonna happen next. They're gonna find other people. You don't start this at 50. They put it all the way up to there. They left that part out. I guess so. Maybe he would think I'm saying he's accusing him of something. I don't think he's gonna come after me. I mean, I wouldn't think, but they'll choose the most showy part of what you do, which is cool. I get it, you know? But that's my experience anyway. Somebody said, I don't look like I like them. I said, this is my happy face. Just so you know. Oh yeah, trust me. I've seen every happy face. This is birthday party face too. He has birthday party face. We got a super question from Mary Giles. Do you guys make cards together or can you read each other too well for poker or spades, et cetera? And one more super thanks from Nadia Brooke here. Lovely. Let me ask you a question. What is poker? Is that the one with the cards? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I don't play cards. Well, more importantly, we've only been together twice in the entire time we've done this show guys. One was for Dr. Phil and then one was for live event. So we would have been playing cards every time we did. That's true. I feel like that, does it? It doesn't. I feel like I've known you guys my whole life. So let me address the poker thing. There was a chapter at the end of this book on poker, which what I said in that is if you can't do the math, if you haven't got the math right, there's no point in knowing about the body language. Okay, if you don't. So, and I personally don't have the capacity or the willpower to know the math enough about poker. So I lose a poker because it doesn't matter whether I think somebody's bluffing or not. I don't understand the value of my own hand. Okay, that's right. You know, and so you've got to understand the value of your own hand and the value of somebody else's. And then you've got to know, are they bluffing about the value? I think that the value of their hand is this. I know the value of my hand is this, but I think they're bluffing about that. And here's why. So I know I would never, I would never look at body language in poker. Personally. Let me tell you something. I just got a good one here from Patrick and it says, are any of you autistic or have ADD? ADHD, we're not autistic, but when it comes to ADHD, I'd go ahead and say, what's up fellow ADHD, ADHD, or so have you say it correctly? I'm dyslexic as well. Yeah. So I thought it was funnier than it was. Super question from Marty Ferguson. Have you seen faking it tears of a crime? I've never heard of that. Me either. No, no, it's show. No, I don't know. Is it a show? Are you seeing people faking tears during a crime? It sounded like that was the title of the show. Yeah. I haven't seen this show either. Maybe I have and don't remember the cook. I've seen so much of this true crime thing. Since we started this, I don't remember one show the next. I usually remember names. So if you could tell us the case, maybe Marty. Oh, good one from Karen Matlock. It's a super question. Would you guys be allowed to serve in jury duty? I haven't got myself out of it on a number of occasions. Yeah, yeah. I just have to say I've done it twice and both times got kicked out of there. And all you got to do is say, I'm a body language expert and analyst and I train law enforcement and military interrogation and body language. And they go, oh, okay. Get your coffee on the way out. We'll see you later, Betty. My first ever jury duty in the county I live in, I was launching my first book House by the Liar and you had to have a reason you couldn't be there. So I sent my book launch information to the local people and they said, we won't be calling you again. Now, whether they do it again or not, I don't know, but that was a long time ago. I was active duty military for 20 years so we don't really get called up for jury duty. So I've never done it. I've selected a whole lot of juries, but I've never been. Well, that's all you have to do is say, no, I'm on the other side, usually. Let's see. Helena. Yeah, that's weird how we know a lot of the people that are in here, how we know their names. See, Helena asked a question about reading about what are our thoughts on the Maui disaster and the president Biden reaction. It's tough. I haven't watched Biden enough to say, what is he doing here, here, here? And it's such a complex thing when you have a disaster, the federal government's role. I don't think we'll delve into that when I really do appreciate the question. If we have video, we may watch it at some point, but we try as a general, and you guys, please weigh in on this one, not to be political in what we do on our show. We try to say, if a guy does something really profoundly stupid and puts himself in the limelight, that is a different story from a politician, but in terms of general politics, we try really hard not to delve into that. Fair. All I can say about the Maui piece, and I know Chase spent a lot of time in Hawaii as well, just it's so tragic to see these places that I know really well there. And there's UFOs that I've seen around then, and Chase, you may have been responsible for some of those. What's your UFO story, Mark? Wait a minute, hang on there. Oh, I mean, just if you're in Hawaii, you're seeing stuff in the sky. Night that you just don't be like, why is that like moving so slowly? It's a helicopter, is it a helicopter? Yes, but it makes no noise. Though it, thus it can't be, though we know it most likely is. It's a great place to see phenomenon that you just wouldn't normally see, but tragic to see it on fire. I think Mark was editing in there, and I believe you're under the impression you saw UFO, is that correct? Oh, I certainly have seen flying objects that I could not identify at the time. Yeah, for sure. It depends on how late at night and how much wine is involved. It was little green men if Chase was in a little green costume at the time. Why is Chase the only one who has the YouTube play button not in sight? I like to keep things simple. Because he's a rebel. A button not in sight. He's not showing up behind. Mark has is, he took it from him. Any tips on fast de-escalation? Asymmetric behavior, asymmetric behavior. Don't ramp up. Yeah, so asymmetric behavior means you start yelling at me and I just go, and I react calmly. What happens is the person feels really stupid after they escalate, and you, as long as you stay not escalated or using your thinking brain, not your cat brain, so you're less likely to do something stupid and get hurt as well. So I usually say, now there are situations, Chase and I both have been in situations where that's not an option, that's a different story. But asymmetric behavior is the most powerful thing My best technique for that is walk away for 10 minutes, at least 10 minutes. A heightened emotion can't usually sustain for more than 10 minutes. So if you're feeling one, you just say, you know what, I'm just gonna step out for a moment, I'll be back in 10 minutes. By the time you come back, you often just can't remember what you were so annoyed, upset, angry about because it's dissipated from a heightened emotion into a feeling. It may have developed into a mood, but the mood might be more easy to control than the heightened emotion. Check this out. Here's one from Sadie Phan, said, do you guys feel that limiting or removing intake of television has a positive impact on sharpening perception or skills or perception and skills? I think if you, depending on what you watch, you know, watch the news, you're gonna see a lot of deception. Let's say we got to watch the weather. There's also exposure to advertising, which makes you do two things extremely well. It covertly trains you, one, the number one goal of advertising is to make you compare yourself to other people. And it's your brain versus a trillion dollar system and you're not gonna win. There's no inoculation against that. So exposure to that stuff is a little bit bad and it also makes you question who you are like, am I good enough? I need more. I need more. I'm not good enough. I haven't watched TV in 22 years. So, well, thanks to you guys. I watch a whole lot more TV than I did before. I have to find these videos every week. It makes me crazy. Somebody earlier asked, how do you guys find the subjects to do? Let me, before we get into this, let me say something. I'm gonna say this right now about Greg. If anything, if Greg's integrity ever comes into question and they say, I wonder if he's the guy that did this and they come in and check his computer. All they're gonna see is somebody killed somebody. How do you, it's all murder and all these things in his Google, in his search history. So let's talk about how we go about doing, how we get a show together, what happens? Because it's now, we got about seven minutes left. So why don't we make this the last one? Here's one. This is a great, and it's a super question from Quirk Frame Industries. How do you guys feel about MBTI? Personality types. I don't feel personality is static, but would be interested to know your types. I don't know my types. I don't subscribe to that thing at all. I don't know how you- Well, all it is is a way to talk about people. Any sorting system is a way to talk about people that gives you commonality. And it's a tool, like any other tool. I have a book where I put one in there myself about how you use your resources. And when you're in business, that's the single most important thing. Will I help you or not? So when you read any of this stuff, take it in my opinion as exactly that a way to sort. Is it a German Shepherd? Is it a healer? Is it a rat terrier? That's all you're looking for. And it gives you a way to discuss people. That's it. For me, the best part of the only good part, I would say, to any personality test is the debrief if it's well done. And the debrief, if it's well done, from my point of view should be, if any of this were true, what, if anything, would you want to do about it? It's just a model. All models are inaccurate. Some are helpful. And if you imagine that it was true, what, if anything, would you want to do about that? Yeah, Scott, the only problem I have with MBTI is the absolute certainty that people have surrounding those types. They're a great model. It's a great way to help you view people differently and help you maybe communicate differently with people. But when you bring in that certainty, that kills me. Well, guys, let me tell you, we were about five minutes from our premiere this week. That's exactly the problem with everything and people, Scott Chase, is everybody that's coming in here has an absolute certainty or a portion of these people have absolute certainty that Grush is telling the truth or Fravor is telling the truth. And if we say the opposite thing, it's hurtful fundamentally then because it's part of their meselous hierarchy. Their esteem is based on what they know about the case. So guys, when you get offended with us and call us stupid and, well, I don't care, I don't care. If you've disagreed with me, that's okay. When you go to call me names and stupid, I'm just like, yeah, you must really be passionate about Grush that you've never met to call me stupid. I'm happy with that. When people call me names, I know that the Japanese have developed this microscope. It's the, I think it's the Hedron electric, electric microscope or whatever it is. And not only can you see the atoms if you use this, you can actually see the electrons and the protons circling the atom. You can see the hairs on the protons and electrons that are coming off there and the things on those. If you use that microphone, you, Alexis. Uh-oh, here we go. He's got alexa, maybe calling the police. Anyway, if you use that microscope, you couldn't find my interest. And whether I cared if somebody liked me or disliked me or what they called me, there's no way possible for me to care any less. Isn't that horrible to be that way, cannot to be that unconcerned or is it that horrible? I don't care. Whatever it is. We got four minutes. One of the things I'd like to, let's just talk here. You ask how we found shows. I go every weekend and I dig through what's pop culture, what's going on. I hate pop culture and I hate true crime and it's all we cover the peers. But I have one this week that's interesting. And let's see what people think. Instead of doing a long drawn out show about one person, I thought we might take two people who are in the news. Good example right now. The Brideman ex-wife has just been arrested for his murder in Orlando, if you don't know that story. And then the other is the death cap mushroom murder case. What if we string two of those together? You guys out there who are listening, thumbs up, thumbs down, what do you think? Yeah. Anyway, real quick, what happens is, Greg finds the story, or he finds the person, and then he'll text me, what do you think about this? We'll talk about that back and forth. There you go, okay, I'll cut it up. This last time, we have about three that are ready to go, but Greg is finding things that are popular in the news. So then I'll say, wait, we shouldn't do that. We should do this one. So we'll go over that and look at it. And he'll go, okay, I'll cut them up. So what we say when cutting them up is he'll take it and grab the times. And then once he gets the times, I'll go download that video he's talking about. And I'll actually cut them up and put them in the Dropbox. And we all get to look at them and we don't talk about them before that. But we all look at them and go, okay, I think this, this, you write your notes or whatever. And then we do the show. Everybody comes up, everybody comes on and says what they think. So it's really fun. And we try, it's a whole lot of thumbs up. Me and Greg and Mark all try to talk about it before and Scott's like, stop, stop, stop. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He'll say, well, I think he's so-and-so. And it's like, do we gotta wait? So if we disagree, no, we'll disagree with you. So we haven't fussed yet, really. Have we ever fussed on here? We don't fuss. Well, we respect each other. And I think that's the single most important part of this is I respect your opinion. Even if I have a different one, I'm gonna explain where I come from and you do the same. I love that about this team. Yeah. I mean, you're hoping for different opinions. Other one, it's tedious, wouldn't it? So I just have four of me or four of Greg. Like that would, you know, that'd be horrific. I mean, four of- My mother's nightmare. Fantastic. All right. So in two minutes, the other show is gonna start, it's gonna premiere. And it's really good because somebody was asking, why don't you ever do someone who's telling the truth? Why are we gonna see that in this one? It's fascinating. So it's gonna be a comparison of someone telling the truth and someone that we feel is being deceptive. So hang on, go over to the premiere now because it's gonna start in about one minute. So let's get off here. And let's do this again, you guys. I think this is kind of- Yeah, yeah. If you like it, tell us and we'll do it again. Yep. Enjoyed that. See you guys in a minute. Yeah, get over to the video. Get over to that other video.