 Welcome to Toffy TV. Marco Silva has been appointed the new manager of Everton Football Club. It's happening Baz. He's in the door. Are you excited? I'm trying to not get too excited about anything this summer. Yeah, whatever. No, I just think, I think everything, I think I'm more excited about the process of it and how we build that all in rather than individual managers, you know what I mean? I don't think we were talking, you know, about the standard of candidate that is around anyway and there's not, there's not that many managers you would comment. If you've got something like Diego Simeone, you'd obviously be excited but what I would say is, before we talk about who I am myself is, I think there's two kind of candidates out there at the moment. Or maybe three. I'd say one of them is basically what we've just let go. An older, more experienced, maybe English manager. The second is maybe one that is slightly unattainable from us. So Simeone, you know, Ancelotti, Toshul has already gone to PSJ. Was he a real candidate? I don't know, maybe a year ago maybe. Emery, I don't know again. He seems like someone, well apparently he doesn't speak very good English, but regardless of that, could we have got him? I don't know, I don't know. And then underneath that is the other option. And now this doesn't matter, this doesn't matter what nationality they are. Right, for a start, the next level is managers who are all around their 40s, maybe to mid 40s, in England, in Portugal, in Germany, wherever. And it's hard to say any of those managers are not a risk. Because all of them seem to have positors and all of them have negatives, all of them. And that's where we are at the moment. And one of the notice days by Munich, they're taking a chance on a young manager. Dortmund look like they're taking a chance on, not on a young manager, he's not a young manager, but someone who has not been with a top club such, someone who's built a smaller club. And I think it's all about getting the structure right and building the structure around club. Even Arsenal, look at Arsenal, look at Arsenal. It's all about now seems to be that football clubs want to protect what they've got and they're not willing to risk everything on tried and untested managers. They're willing to give them the job, but what I mean is they're insulating them. They're putting loads of bubble wrap around them. That's right though, isn't it? When you, look at us, look, just look at us over the last few years, we had, you know, when Farad Mashiiri coming, we've had Roberto Martinez, didn't we? And to be fair to Martinez, he never worked with Mashiiri, there was, he was on the dam, he was on the way, but we had to pay him off, we've had Ronald Coomming coming, we've spent a lot of money in a transfer market, we've had to pay him off, we've got Samala Dyson just to do whatever he did, whatever he did, whatever he did, whatever we finished it, we've had to pay him off. So old Eddie, we've had to spend a lot of money just getting rid of people because it hasn't worked yet. I mean, the kind of thing we've ridd Liverpool for, Liverpool playing about six different managers. We've gone through three sets of tyres, now when you have to buy a tyre and you're like, you're just going, it's bloody tyre, you don't really see any impact on it, that's basically what we've done with Mashiiri, we've just bought loads of bits. And then we've got the partboard, we've done what we've done, but it was sad. We did get the partboard. So, you can understand football clubs thinking, and you know when you look at it, you know that I've always said, I believe a manager should have say on his play is right, but that's all individualistic, isn't it? It's all down to your manager and everything else, so whoever you get in, but you can keep getting managers in paying them a lot of money, giving them a lot of money to spend, and it's not working. And then the next man comes in and goes, eight of these are for me, and you're like, that eight of course is £200 million. Well, I don't want them. You can't keep doing that, so you have to, you have to build an identity and work, try and work within that structure. Now it might change slightly, but then if you get the right kind of player, they can change slightly, whereas I think evidence problem has been, there's been too much of one way and we've had no direction. We've had a fella recently, David Moyes, we all knew what it was, there was no money, very little money, and that wasn't David Moyes' fault, that was the board's fault, but there was very little money and David Moyes knew what he was doing and everyone worked within that and he bought plays, he went to watch some, so he watched less, got 24 times, he thought he bought some things like that, so very, very, because he had to be right, everyone knew, everyone was on board, but us as fans would be frustrated with Moyes sometime, but we all knew what he was trying to do and other restraints. Martin has come in the first season great, then he didn't have any control over, he knew what he wanted to do, he knew in his mind that we wanted to pass the ball and stuff and didn't have the players to do it, all the money to be able to go and buy better quality to do that role and he just forgot about his defendant, Cumin coming with no identity and loads of players just because he thought he would get good players and then all of a sudden he's come in and be moan the fact that he didn't have the players to do what he wanted, but ironically he bought probably out of amongst the top of players at the moment, so we need someone to come in and go, this is the way we play, this is our structure, this is the way we play and then, like we've said before, if Marco Silva doesn't work out then hopefully Marcel Brands has gone, well there's this fella there, I play, he's very similar but he's better and he can just fit in and work with that. But also though I wouldn't, I'm going to be a little bit more positive than that, I'm going to say it's not about just that though, it's not about having your eye on a through line, you know, when that could run and strike through the club just in case something bad happens, I'm going to, it's not in case something bad happens, you protect the club, because as you move forward now and now and now, but the way you've just described it there is it could be seen as slightly in a negative connotation, the way I'm going to throw the positive light on this and say, well you know what, actually it's about saying to a young coach, listen you are young, you are inexperienced, you haven't done this, this, this and this, so we're going to take some of those responsibilities off you and allow you to do what you do and what we've been you know banging the drum for in the last few months is someone to come in and coach the team, give them an identity, get them on the training page, get them on there every day and having time with them and working with them and not being having to worry about all those other things and letting someone else get on with them, but also the person who does that job, who does the other job which is now Marcel Brands, know exactly how to do that job and there's no, do you know what I mean, there's no worry, this fella, this fella, this fella finished his career and immediately became a director of football, he was for the first few months of his career a director of football, so hopefully that he understands the job, so that is brilliant because if he understands the job of being a director of football that's going to help so much more, I'm not going to say that's going to make it, it's brilliant, it's the best in the world, but if he knows how to be a director of what it takes, that makes it the synergy, a lot easier for me, well he's done the three jobs, he's been a player, he's done the director of football, the reason why I was saying about that, because I know that a lot of people are worried about you just get off when you're wanting stuff, so what I was trying to say was, Everton are trying to protect that scenario, trying to protect us to go forward through Marcel Brands, the idea he'd have given Marco Silva the job, he's 41 and he's a young coach, we need a young coach to grow with, now people will level question marks at him and go, we've done this, we've done that, I have myself, Everton put seven goals past service teams in seven months without being great, but in one of those games it should have been Devon Berry, it went off over two in a lot there and the answer could have been more before we turned around and said, the whole game, you'd have to look at the whole picture, he went in a hole, a hole had 14 players when he went in and he'd been gone, he'd been dead and buried, and he got rid of the best player to bring, to free up, to bring other players in, made him a man in the ass, made him a man, well, but he beat man United with, he beat Liverpool, with those, he went down to Arsenal and ultimately he lost, but he had chances, he would win in that chances, so he gave them a chance, now okay, he went down, but I think he got them to the last day of the season, when at Christmas they had no chances so he's done okay, they were great, we've said this time and time again, they were brilliant until we left the last day, and that was it, I watched them at Chelsea, they were magnificent, they went up to Newcastle, remember them beating Newcastle, 3-0 up there, they destroyed them, should have been about nine, fast flow and exciting football people, we're all over them, we're all over them when we first went for them, I know some, not everyone obviously, but a lot of people are going, oh it's great, it'd be great for them. Go through my tweet, there's a tweet I think from September and it actually says, Marco Silva will be a brilliant ever manager one day, not today but one day, there you go, well there you go, so he wanted, I suppose what we have to remember is that he wanted to come here, we were the club that he basically cost them his Wofford job because he wanted to come to us, because ultimately what happened at Wofford and I get him not listening, I'm not trying to go, this fella's going the greatest in the world, but what happened at Wofford? No, no, but it says what happened at Wofford was he basically wanted to leave, made it well known, made it known to his players, actually if rumors have relieved, started asking players if they wanted to come with them as well, apparently allegedly about that, and some players were just like, when he never got the chance, they were just like, listen, if you don't want to be here, we're not going to play for you and I think maybe a few of them down tools at that point. I think, don't get me wrong, I don't think he conducted himself very well, you know, I think, but I suppose yeah, he never did one or the other, I mean if you're going to do it, just resign, you know, and let the club sort it out. Yeah, that's what I mean, yeah, but if you, there is that, yeah, you know what I mean, but he decided, but maybe he was just, you know, playing it. I don't, it's difficult, I suppose it's difficult isn't it, for the players because if you think the man at it then doesn't believe in what's happening, you don't only have, he might not have been a conscious decision. No, but he might not have. I was watching The Damge United over the weekend, you know what I mean, you watch that and you see a thing about, this is what makes me laugh about, knowing people go, modern day footballers and they don't try and they don't try for this, you watch The Damge United and you see that lead team and some of the, you know, at the time of the best team in the country, they get by and clubbing, they were like, we don't like this fella, we don't want this fella here, no one's going to try for this fella. Get all your medals and throw them in the bin. Well, you're pots and pans. You won it by cheating. Yeah, but the point is though, that was one of the best teams in the land. We sound really old now, I know, even before my time is. That's for my time, but I've watched it. But the point is, what's the YouTube two hour film on? Yeah, you've got 44 days because all the players simply wouldn't play for them and they were the best players in the land, the toughest players in the land and all the rest of it. See, that's the remedy, you know what I'm saying? Well, it is. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. It gets thrown around. The players don't do this. If the players don't want to play for someone, they won't play for someone. I'm not saying, what I was going to say was, I don't even think it was almost a conscious decision with them. I just think, if you're believing in someone and then the next minute they go, I actually want to go there and I want to go and I want to take him in him, then you start going, he hasn't asked me to go. If that story is true by the way. But not just that. Not just that, you lose focus slightly in the Premier League and the other thing was, with your Wathford fan point, which I didn't know, the other horrendous injury list just after that, he lost the centre of the team. I think he lost about six players who've been playing and doing well. Then he started. But I would also say like, just, I mean, I'm not saying this is true or not, but if you were to take a play like Troy Dini, right, very honest, open, hard work and players made a lot of the talent, the talent he's been given, you know, you want to manage it to believe in you. And also if you are a player who loves your football, which sort of Troy Dini seems like he does and someone comes and he's a bit like that, and he's a bit like, well, I don't actually want to be here. You're going to be like, and you stop believing what the tell, when you lose a couple of games, you then start, then you're probably then looking at him going, is he that ass? Is he that? Which he might not have done anything different. But that's, listen, that's the, that's what happened to him. But listen, he wanted to come to us. Farad Nishiri quite clearly wanted him, offered big money for him, wanted to take him. It did not happen for whatever reason, but that's never gone away. And we've said a few times during the season, well, if you've got a manager, you've tried to pay 15 million quid for sat on the sidelines waiting for you. Why would you go somewhere else? What I would say is on this as well is, if this has always been the plan, right? And he's been in on the plan and Marcel Brands has been on the plan, then I'm absolutely all over this, all over it. Because if that's been the plan since maybe not since day one, but maybe, you know, the boat, you know, they've gone away and everything's settled down because Sam Maladise was there. And then you've got to a point maybe, I don't know, February or March, and they've gone, right, what are we going to do? Brands, maybe Brands has said something or other. If that's been the case and they've already spoke and already, I'm not saying plans have been put in place, but this guy's been watching us. Brands has been watching us, they've been talking. I'm not saying any of these things would have happened and it would be very own evidence if they had happened, but these things do happen and they've happened at other clubs. But Brands has all said he's been in constant sort of evidence? No, no, no, but I'm just some of this fella, right? But I'm just, listen, it might or might not have happened, but if it has happened that way, then I'm all over this because then that way there's a head start, there's a plan, you know, he will know coming in day one who his play is at, he's been fitting the system, who works with the system, what system they want to play. Brands already, if Brands knows that, bang, bang, bang, what he's already got. I've got this player, I've got that player, that that player. If that's the way it's gone, then I'm all over it. He's had 10, apparently 10, four or five jobs now, so he was waiting for us, wasn't he? That's the way it is and therefore he's kind of watched everything, the type of manager. If you listened to Ryan Mason was talking about him, he just said, he's unbelievable, like he's a man manager, he's just everything's like, you know exactly what you're doing, Curtis Davis said he'd walk them through, walk them every day with, and he said in the end, he started thinking, where would Marko put me in this situation during the game? You know, we never once said what would Jack Elker do in this situation. That's what he's got. That's a great, great place. For that kind of attention to detail, I remember the Waffa players coming out when we were facelink with them going, we want them to stay, we want them, we love them, we want them to stay. So if he's a good coach, you want to go with my manager? Every player in this country that has worked with him seems to be all over him. Everything goes down to the manager's detail and that wins your punch. I've seen some comparison because the comparison is, he's another madness, he's another madness, teams don't know how to defend. I don't think he's as good and cow as Marko is, he's a pressing sort of, you know, presses from the front where, don't forget, Marko is his team, he used to just let, yeah, just keep going, just keep going, keep going, oh, we're at the edge of the box. Exactly, that's why Barry was so good because he used to sit on the edge of the box and try and stop things. He wants high pressing, you know, kind of football. And, you know, as I say, Marko's teams were just wide open, he's don't seem to, he's, I'm not, that's what gets thrown on him anyway, all the players are saying that. I've said it, I've said, is he a bit like Roberto, is he a bit gung-ho and defensively and stuff? And you're after luck and go, he plays open football, he does, he can't deny that, but what, we've just had a manager that wouldn't attack, so what do we want? Well, open, I mean, to open football, is it open football? What, a Liverpool? Oh, yeah, a Liverpool open, a Man City open. It's just that you have to make sure you do the other things better than then teams and Liverpool and Man City do that and sort them. Speys are a little bit more defensive than the other two or better at defending than the other two and weird it like that. But they know how to, they attack, they're open, you know what I mean, that's the way it is, and then it's about putting better players in at the back, if you put better players in at the back to shoot, who knows what he can do with it. What I would say about him is you went into a hole, they had 14 players, they weren't very good players without being too disrespectful, they got promoted and had no money, Steve Bruce left on about two days before the scene or whatever and Mike feeling suckered over and they had the first game, I think he had 11 players and they beat Leicester to him, unbelievably the champions, but he scrapped away through, he come in with not very good players and give them a chance by organising them and coaching. Wafford, he went in, he was slightly better players, he bought in a few, made them better. Everton squads miles better than both of them, yet we know there's players that need to go off the board. But it doesn't matter if it's miles better, it's got to be, they've got to be the right players. No, but if you're working with better football, no, but we've fallen into this trap before, but good players don't necessarily mean, don't necessarily fit into a system, they've got to fit into the system. Of course they don't, but the systems, the displays in our team that will fit into the system, who are better than he's had before. That's fine, but we're still going to need, the team's still going to be need to be rebuilt. But you can still, you can have, you can get worse players than but you already got, that will fit the system. But I think someone like Tom Davis will really benefit from him, I think Dominic Alder-Lewan, players like that because I think he's that, according to the players you've worked with him, now I'm doing my show, but according to the players you've worked with him, he's into my new details as you said before, where to go, where to, and I think Davis needs that almost, I think he needs someone to go. What I would say is that, that, if you're a good coach, if you're a good coach, you can take a player that other people might think is, doesn't fit a system and creates something different in them. So he's been a coach since 2010, as I said before, I think it was Estriol in Portugal, he went in there, he was the director of football and then he took over as the manager, got the team promoted, got manager the season, I think he lost three in 24 games, went into the top division season after, I think he finished fifth, went into the Europa League, then he went to Sport and Lisbon, he won them a cup and then he was sacked for not wearing the club suit and if anyone's read up on the Sport and Lisbon owner, you will see that he's not necessarily a reasonable man in a lot of ways, so he's sacked yet for not wearing a club suit and as you do, went to Olympiacos, won the super league in his first game, won them the league, beat Arsenal in the Champions League, I think he went on, I think he won 17 games in a row, I think it was a record in Europe, then he quit that summer for personal reasons, then he went into Hull in the following January, unlucky to not keep them up, then he went to obviously went to Wafford and it was funny because when he went into Wafford, it was about a month into the season and as I said, we were looking great under Ronald Cooman and people were starting to look at him and going have we missed a bout on some money here because I was thinking that myself a few people like, because I remember I was thinking and I know what the people were thinking, these look really good, like with Charleston on the left and he would bought a couple of other players from nowhere, we're buying on like shiny things and he was buying people under the radar and you're looking, these look really, really good, have we missed a bout and then the world started to collide, so as I say, I think it's about, hopefully it's about getting a system in place, that's the most important thing, listen, everyone will be behind them, everyone will give them a chance because that's what we'll do, we'll give them a chance, I just think that we've got to be all of us, all of us, I've got to be a little bit more patient and hope that we're going in the right direction because that's all you can hope for to go in the right direction and that's everyone at the club that's what the club has been, that's what the changes in the last week or so have been have been made to do so that everything's different and as we said last week, I think the big thing that all the people in the media and everything are missing about aladdyses, it's not, it wasn't just aladdyses who got sacked, whilst cut sacked the board got restructured, the whole club is looking to do things slightly different and laying the lessons and let's hope this fella's laying the lessons, you know, and comes in and comes in, because I think we had a discussion all this earlier on three or four months ago when we were talking about silver, I think, and we said just because you get sacked in a job doesn't mean you're bad at the job, you've just got to laying for a job, every manager out there or most of the manager out there will have been sacked at one place or another, it's about realising what you did wrong or did you do something wrong? Ultimately it'll be the players, that's the thing, he can coach all he wants but we need better players as well and I think fans, I think everyone will get behind them and I think it's the case and when we see the type of football we play, that'll be the proof in the pudding, if we play good attack on football, win games, people will be on board with it then and there'll be a lot of bumps in the road as we try to change the way we play and we try to do things and this was the thing with Cumin, we've seen that performance against Spades the first day and we were like this is going to be boss, we're going to play exciting attack and it never really got repeated but I think he does have a philosophy that he sticks to and like you said he's had a lot of time to watch us, hopefully he's had his pad out evaluating players and stuff for a few months, probably for six months and he can come in and get to work straight away with Marcel Brans and start training the club around a little bit and by that I mean I don't necessarily mean we can crack the soft for next season and just mean have an identity, have a good way of playing, make us competitive, make us able to go away to Spades and give them a good go. And also this ultimately the most important thing is make fans happy and make them proud and do you know people laugh at it but do you know all that clock going down to the cup and doing all the you know 2-2 Esbron which they love and all that but it's about getting no, it's about getting no moment where you go, do you know what we're all together in this you know so later on down the road you're doing that after a big game which you've just won, do you know what I mean that's the whole point it's like that's what it's saying, it's saying we're prepared to dig in for these little games so that when we get down the road we're doing it in the big game. But also when the team's struggling everyone's with it still, they're still behind them, you're still going well he's fully into us, you know he's integrated and he's part of it so we're backing even though the team's struggling because every team will struggle at some stage are we right behind them, Cumin left himself wide open to that, that it was no engagement, there was nothing, all of these people didn't like him so there was no engagement, Martin has got it but wasn't able ultimately but he got a lot longer because he did get it. I just am looking forward to like you know November time and it's a little bit cold in the air and he's got like a boss coat on and everyone's happy and everyone's like cool, it's cool, winning a few games and that's all it's about, it's all about going to match and having enjoying going on a match, wanting to watch your team and getting behind them from the first whistle so let's hope that happens. Let us know your thoughts, he's in the door Michael Silver, are you happy with the appointment, if you're not happy let us know why and who you would have wanted, you know be realistic, we've had a few shouts of likes a con team people like that and I just, I just logistically I just don't think people like that are going to come to us. But everything in the frame at the moment now. So we've got to get it, well no let's not get ourselves in the frame, let's get this, let's get this, let's get the top. Let us know your thoughts, if you haven't already subscribed please do click the bell for a later you know when the videos are coming out and if you want more videos join us over on page and get over there, we'll see you later.