 I mean, you guys are the biggest Asian-American pod in Queens, right? Pfft. That's right. Say, should you start your very own Asian-based podcast? Well, we're here to answer the question with the hottest Asian podcast based out of Flushing Queens, the worst Asian podcast, guys. Please introduce yourselves, guys. Yo, what's up? My name is Lungy. This is my co-host, Ben. Yo, what's up, guys? We're based out of Flushing Queens. We're in our mid-30s right now. We've been living and fleshing our entire lives. This guy was actually born in Flushing Hospital, so he's got some credit to him. And we just like to talk about things that relate to our Asian-American-ness and what it's like to be like a Queens person, a New Yorker. Just to give you guys some context, we're going to run some of the viral clips that have got millions and millions and millions of views from the Worst Asian pod. Run it! Westerners probably find Japanese culture more interesting and like quirky and fun. Oh, yeah. But they find Korean culture more cool and hip. Yeah, that's a really good way of describing it. They would probably want to experience Japanese culture, but they would want to be Korean. Yeah. I don't think we're going to get the top tier, but for two different reasons though. God, Chinese bakery food sucks so hard. What? It's so plain and bland. I'm like, yo. Yo. Yeah, I know. Yo. I'm going to sustain now. It's like I'm eating prison food. I'm semi-triggered. Yeah, you should be. Why do Asian girls all have small boobs? Why? Because only A's are acceptable. Oh, that's fucked up, bro. Goodness. Listen, guys. I like it because it's kind of like it's wholesome enough, it's edgy enough, and that's like sort of this perfect space for it to go viral amongst like Asian yappies, right? People who are in the corporate workforce, but they might have these discussions low-key on the side. Low-key. When they're drinking after some soju or after whatever this or that, but never put it out there, right? Like describe your podcast to us like in the simply like two sentences. It's non-serious. It's just about your day-to-day Asian things. It's not high-brow. It's not low-brow. It's two guys bantering in the back of the bar. So it's Asians being, two regular Asian guys being moderately like not too intense but still funny, but is it based in fact, like do you bring up factual stuff usually like. What's it just like opinionate? Because I know that you guys also talk about Korean barbecue a lot, right? There's a couple episodes about it. We just like to talk about things that we can relate to, right? Things that like I said, we talk about the back of the bar and everything. It's not anything that's going to like change your life per se. we're not giving you a device that's gonna make you millions of dollars, it's just nice fun conversations that we're trying to have that I think a lot of people can relate to because the problem is like there's lots of podcasts and they really just talk about like let's say dating and sex and things like that from time to time we'll dabble in that that's true right we will dabble in that but most of the time that's not what everyone wants to talk about right and at the same time I would say like we're not necessarily old but we're old enough that we've lived a life and we have some experiences and we bring some value that way right so it's not just the worst asian podcast it's actually the most relatable asian guide podcast that's what we hope so that's what we hope so yeah um what's your guys's backgrounds like you said you touched on it earlier but what is your exact background because this is probably the only podcast that i'm familiar with that is based out of flushing queens or queens in general i mean i know there's a couple ones from other ethnicities but as far as asian ones go this is the only one i'm familiar with yeah uh i'll guess i'll start first uh born and raised flushing queens you're korean i am korean yes sir so i am korean um in my mid 30s as well i've known linji since we're pretty much little kids since that we might wait wait give us your stats your weight height what did we come at the combine um i list at six two i think on a good day uh you're a big six two though i'm straight up i'm huge i think i'm talking to mark gasol right now but no no i am i am fat and pudgy i i think i'm 240 on a good day i just use your bathroom so i think i'm like 235 now did you play football ever no i actually grew up playing we did play football a couple times but now i play a lot of baseball we play a lot of baseball otani yes otani's like six four you're almost there i think he's huge he's otani like it looks like a basketball player he's dense yeah we we actually talk about otani all the time we're like he's the go you know he's uh making the way for like asian athletes and just asians in general right so then so then you got like but what made you want to talk about all this stuff that you see growing up in this asian enclave or this hyper mix zone that is queens because a lot of people do but a lot of people don't talk about it you know like the honest truth is like i think both of us can't admit that we don't speak our language that well we can speak some korean we can speak some chinese but at the end of day we're not really chinese chinese are very korean korean so the part of it that i think is good is that we're trying to learn more about ourselves and the only way that you can really do that is by having conversations right maybe like i said they're not the most sophisticated conversations but you gotta start somewhere you gotta start asking the questions so you would say out of like the variance of experiences in queens you guys are on the less bobby side and on the more americanized side if you had to self categorize yeah of course like i said we grew up playing baseball we used to go to like a lot of great baseball teams no not same baseball team we used to go to the park and try to get like a game together with a bunch of people like a pick up baseball like the sandlot you guys are the sandlot guys of flushing queens yeah i think we can like mix different boundaries right he's a yankee fan i'm a mess fan by the same time we feel american we feel korean we get a lot of everything we're like uh what's it like jaga vol trades masters of none so but what about like you know how queens can get so asian and so first gen did they ever outside you guys for being more with the american crowd relative to being a queen's kid like because you know some of the queens kids they're like living in their world like deep in there obviously you have the americanized ones too you know i think for sure like when you're growing up with there was definitely like niches and cliques of people that were super super hyper korean right even back then when like k drama k-pop wasn't really a thing we think they had only like no no no gangs or anything we were never like any like sort of wild like diving pairs tips blonde did you guys have the civic aside with the hot and poor nights some of our friends did some of our friends you know in that scene you know with the next cells right that had like all the lights and stuff like that next tells ufo pants we went through that phase a little bit ourselves but at the same time like we're just generally true to ourselves you know it's funny enough like most of our friends are asian per se but they're all asian like us you know like not very asian asian so we're a bunch of not very asian kids trying to come together and be more american why do you think that perception of asian americans from queens is not you guys usually the perception is we're thinking super asian that i'm saying that would you agree and that's more of the perception yeah i mean the perception if you were to sum up queens you're gonna say oh that's like where all the phobby chinese are but obviously there's a lot of asian americans right that are americanized like that are in asian stuff but and maybe grew up closer to obviously downtown flushing which is super phobby but yeah you know you have uh you got to experience the american side still yeah even just like music wise culturally if we're speaking like hip hop right i think we kind of briefly talked about before like we grew up with nars but at the same time we kind of grew up with rock too right you know like back then you listened to k-rock but then you also listened to hot 97 you know i'm saying so it's just like you know back then we used to like dmx and shit you know it's a good mixture of everything i think like the problem now is like because flushing itself in queens has gotten so mainstream when people look at flushing when they youtube flushing when they google flushing on instagram whatever they're just seeing like the specifically viral asian foods right and then they connect that with like more phobby chinese people right so people are like you're like i'm from queens they're like show me your dragon tat there's the koi fish head yeah and you are from queens y'all ain't from queens you're not ready y'all ain't got the dragon chat what about uh we know queens has a lot of asians there is a kind of a korean side right and then there's uh i guess it's predominantly chinese of different types but i guess what about mixing with non-asians growing up in queens what was that like what was your friend group like you guys seem like guys who had friends or dated people who were not asian at some point in your life but like what was usually the baseball guys dating non-asian girls i noticed that no i'm just i would say actually like for even the sort of like our elementary school it was like a good mix like song black song white and middle school you know we grew up like more it was funny i think in middle school more hispanic than it was asian black so like you know we got the hip hop influence from there baseball and then got the baseball the baseball you know we got that football football as well yeah people sometimes forget that like queens is not just flushing right flushing is like the biggest hottest thing right now but queens is the mecca of like the world's culture it's a big melting pot of so many other cultures right yes the chinese myself are like prominent and flushing but we are not the only culture that's how do you feel about that people blanketing it with that image i think we're talking about this before like there is that older generation of non-asian people called asian people within queens that maybe are batting an eye to the change right to the asian gentrification of queens but it's it's if you look historically it's the case with every town right when a new population comes in they're going to take over a little bit and they're going to move somewhere else that that's not necessarily inherently a bad thing that's just the way that the world works and flows yeah how come every time i go into the city and i say i'm from queens everybody's asking me about noodles and dumplings and what yeah all these korean barbecues i mean i don't really know anything about that yeah i know ling ji got really offended every time we say we're a little too lazy to go out to queens to get food all the time all the time first of all can i just say i know queens has better ethnic food than manhattan especially per dollar i get it yeah for sure but that's also why i live in the city so i don't have to go to queens all the time besides you guys just being lazy i would say like queens has less fancy good food you may get like good food here in the city as well but it's like on the higher tier right it's catered to the people that generally live in manhattan right bankers yes bankers bankers wall c bros like the stuff like that queens it's catering good food to a more common group of people like a more lower class the everyday joe i would say everyday asian joe no the food it hits a little different out there i mean i always describe it as like manhattan kind of reminds me of like private school and then the boroughs remind me of public school yeah yeah there you go there you go or if you want to say if you guys have been to hong kong hong kong island is known as the very international kind of like more westernized fancier expensive area and then kaolun side and new territories is like where all the people live you know um what is the deal with queens lately you know we we're talking about it's not just what the media makes it to be it's not just what the food media makes it to be but let's talk about what it is made to be which is this crazy asian land do you i mean what what's going on there was what why has queens increased in public profile 10x in the past five years i think like personally speaking i would say there is a lot of foreign sees money that's coming right you see a lot of flushing is becoming more expensive there's more apartments being built and some of that is being taken up or absorbed by foreign money that's just buying something here either as an investment or as like a temporary thing for like their kids to come over and stuff like that yeah exactly right you know there is a real part of that but we forget that like queens still caters to the everyday person immigrants come to queens because they can find a niche within queens that they can relate to even speaking no english speaking like some random dialect that's not chinese that's not whatever because you're one's own needs right yeah you can always find and i don't just mean asian people like any minority can come to queens find your group of people make a home there and then from there maybe in the future you you move out of queens right so queens is like a mini microcosm of the world yeah well all right let me ask you this does diversity actually work in queens are people kind of united is it or is there any beefs or tension do you feel that because you have all these different ethnicities that it's kind of it's kind of hard to get stuff done sometimes like even from a political standpoint sometimes it is you know how they talk about trying to unite all asians together like there's different groups of asians we all have different beliefs we have like different priorities and stuff immigration waves exactly like it's hard to say that oh can we just unite all the asian it's the same thing when you say can we just unite all the minority districts in queens right of course it's hard because we have our differences we're still different people even though the rest of the world are just bottling us together then what do you think i was gonna actually add to that flushing has become like a tourist spot now so we do get a lot of you know foreign overseas people that aren't just asian coming into flushing so it's kind of like you need to actually like get a hotel stay or something like that yeah yeah so if you just go to like main street you know people will come there and it's like a melting pot for people to just try a lot of the food almost like a food disney land or something like that yeah so even before i remember on the map now you now you see flushing being considered like you know like a chinatown and then there's a korea town like you could say more up towards like northern boulevard near bayside yeah and like you know but you want like full deal experience of like chinatown it's kind of like main streets where it's at back in the day when we grew up flushing was not known as chinatown it was not one of the chinatowns the only chinatowns in the city was Manhattan chinatown the og chinatown now technically we are a chinatown now technically it's even bigger yeah yeah it's bigger i better think i do think with food media the way tiktok and youtube has become has been able to highlight all the food it basically lets people know like even last time i was in downtown flushing man i was eating all these uh different um like robings like meat pies that are so good off the street it reminded me of china and i was like yo i haven't had this experience since i was in beijing and i was like wow i can just go to queens and get it and it's like i think for people who are not going to travel to asia china whatever you can just go to flushing and then walk around stay there for four days you eat your heart full then you can go to manhattan spend a couple days in manhattan see the glitzy new york and then that's a great trick crazy yo what a travel agency start doing a combo package three nights in flushing three nights in the city yeah exactly might as well right dude you can go from broadway to rooseville have and then you know yeah another good point about like flushing is that like not only do we have a lot of money coming in right like today we saw like a freaking orange mclaren just like driving on northern boulevard it should not be driving on northern boulevard yeah also yeah because like it was just low but who was driving let's be an asian dude it was an asian dude it was an asian dude i think he was coming out like dwayne reed i think so i was just like was he a skillful driver or was he was he swerving i'm not gonna lie was his rims was his rims curbed up he was he was doing a pretty good job not to like right right you know so you know like you might script the bottom like the whole wave of people coming to flushing it has his pros and cons right the cons are well the pros are obviously that it's bringing attention to the area different cuisines you can come back home and try different things it's bringing people that would never try that stuff to come into queens and try all different cuisines but at the same time like it does kind of raise the price of everything for the people that are living in queens it's almost gentrified like just like you guys came in as a group and then maybe whoever was there looked at you a certain way these new people are coming over in the mclaren's exactly you're looking at them like oh man they're about to gentrify the asian american yeah exactly now we're becoming like the old species kind of thing yeah there's a reason why ben has lived in flushing queens his whole life and he's probably never gonna buy property in flushing queens right because no it's true though because the prices have gone up so much right people like him that are middle income can't really keep up with stuff like that no i i hear crazy stories of almost in any hot housing market of people getting outbidded like my friends who work regular jobs are like i thought i do well and i put in a bid and then i got outbidded i got outbidded by like a hundred thousand dollars by some random person and you're like where is this straight cash off or two right yeah yeah it's crazy i guess you know there was a there was this thing called white flight that's white people leaving an area and it's for whatever reason but sometimes asians cause it because asians moved in because asians liked to move in where the white people with when they came up and then there's too many asians and the white people that i'm out of here and then now you got like the yellow american flight i love it now it's yellow queens because you got yellow people from yellow land rich people rich you know you got you got the people whose parents own coal mines versus the people whose parents do not own coal mines like if you don't have a natural resource ownership of a pipeline or something like that this what i have a really i have a one question about this because we're talking about kind of this new wave of maybe typically more well-off fobs right or immigrants whatever you want to call i don't mean do not call us fobs if you are poor to me poor abc calling rich fobs out but no i'm just saying do you think there's blending like do you think the chinese maybe let's just say chinese americans to the chinese like is there a crossover are people dating each other partnering each other i have some friends who own businesses in queens who are abc's and they do have some partners with like chinese people like do you see that relationship building and yeah what's it like between the new mcclaren crowd and the people who just like i just worked hard to get a lexicon the mcclaren chinese versus the tiyota camera chinese okay as a proud owner of a toio the rat for myself i put myself in that category but in order to do business you just have to be able to be peaceful with the people that you're trying to do business with right even if it's only skin deep and you're not actually caring about whatever just to be able to cooperate and do business you have to work together regardless of if you think the person is coming over here with too much money and making things difficult on you i think simply because as asian people we're very uh business minded we're very like goal centric like focused on that sometimes we take our personal opinions out of it right if you want to do good business you got to cooperate together what about socially like do you think there's mixing like the scenes it's got to be tough too because there's different mindsets maybe younger people that are coming in uh it's a it's a different mindset because they're coming in at what the funds of their parents so there's less basic necessities that that they have to worry about so their day-to-day priorities are different right but i think at the same time you can still hang out together and have a good time right just because you and i are different social classes doesn't that mean we can't share a beer together and just be able to talk right you just have to unite you have rich fob friends yeah of course yeah okay ben ben do you feel left out at all do you wish there was a bunch of rich korean fobs moving into fleshing um because what would that be like koreans get gentrified not gentrified but like pushed out of certain zones and fleshing in their own zone what's more in murray hill right i think actually i pretty much do live around murray hill and you nailed it right no it was very korean for a while and then it sort of became now it's like 70 30 chinese right oh yeah definitely so like i think like the koreans right we migrated more up right so like towards base either like bayside the little necks you know and i guess some parts of like long island now too um and you know lingis people your people just like came in and just like chart spreading more so like fleshing main street it's just expanding and a lot of the money like you know we're talking is coming from overseas you know and they're expanding very rapidly but at the same time people people always forget that bayside fleshing area murray hill area is like the second biggest k-town in new york city obviously we have the one here in madden on 34th street right that's what people think of korea town when they think of new york city i would argue living near the k-town and fleshing that it is probably like it has more food has more diversity for sure you could definitely get as much fancy stuff there i think there is a lot of koreans and fleshing but more people associate koreans with new jersey i was just going to mention that to you pal park right right exactly so what's the what is the difference between a pal park korean from and a fortley korean from a from a fleshing bayside uh fleshing koreans are way superior not joking you know it's funny i have some friends from fleshing and you know i'll go see my new jersey korean friends too um i don't think it's gotta be different right it's a different environment to be raised i i kind of want to fleshing koreans are not gonna like it but i kind of like the new jersey koreans i think they're a little more refined it's especially more like working class koreans the fleshing koreans seem a little more working class right yeah a little on the edge you know where do you clout where do you classify yourself are they a little more gangster out in like i guess you'd say in jersey new york oh new york queens oh yeah yeah fleshing yeah thuggish ruggish yeah well fleshing is known to have the uh you know whatever crowd you want to run with let's just say this it's available yep whatever type of squad you want to end up living your life amongst you can run amongst well we do love each other and you know shout to my friends from the from the jersey dirty jersey you know right right um i guess why analyze trivial asian things you know how like some people are like oh my gosh i only want to watch this channel is going to teach me to invest in index funds or trade stock options and then finally it's like boom i like it because you guys like say what a regular conversation might be right but you guys are just more uh making it available for everybody versus people needing to have a really interesting group of asian friends that's willing to discuss the difference between new york korean barbecue versus la korean barbecue and things like that dude that's exactly the point sometimes i get comments from some of our listeners that really you know make it the point that we're just being able to like share an experience with them that they have not experienced themselves right so maybe it's asian people like in the mid west somewhere maybe someone that's married into an asian family maybe it's an adoptee or something so you can learn all about your asianness from some other podcast and maybe talk about like more high-brow political things but if you just want to like have the same experience as having growing up and flushing that big thing that's what we're talking about right the same kind of bullshit that we would talk about like back then in the lunchrooms or like in the back of the bar that's the stuff that we bring on to the podcast it's not super high-brow or anything right it's just fun conversations about the little nuances about being asian do you feel like that like did you do you view it that way or you're like man i was just i'm just talking about what i like to talk about well the beautiful thing about what we have going on i think a lot of times when i do hear our guests i mean or just people that do listen to us they really enjoy our chemistry our banter our back and forth and i think that was heavily based on our success of the show so it's just a very intimate organic you know real raw things a lot of people even ask us like hey is this like all scripted that you guys talk about a lot of times it's just us like 95 it's just us just off the dome just speaking on it's the same conversations that we would have and we want to bring people in as if they're like the third wheel friend right just having a good time at the back of the bar right um a lot of people tell us like all the time it feels like oh it just feels like i'm part of the conversation you know no it makes sense your guys's chemistry is crazy why is korean stuff popping so hard right now and bet i want to ask you because you're korean but do you feel like you benefit from the korean bump how much i think the truth is the truth is everybody any guy that's korean benefits somewhat from the bump you're somewhere near the blast zone but how close to the epicenter of it are you and how far are you and how much are you benefiting from it i was gonna say if you guys watch the hurt locker you know how like jane renner's like disarming bombs i'm like right there like i am just i i feel all of it you're okay i'm enjoying all of that right now that's me right there no but i can you provide some details or what do you mean or like what does obviously i guess korean things and by proxy korean american things you're korean american they're just popping right now like there's so many girls that are like in love with the archetype in love with just everything right like yes whether you fit it or not of course maybe if you fit it you maybe even be able to play into it more than somebody else what is your own personal experience that you can share with that um it's a lot easier i guess you can say i you know more opportunity you know when i'm not even asking for it so like i'll just be out and you know random stranger you know like you're out in ktown for example yeah for example i'm mind my business you know people think i'm like undercover cop i'm just trying to have a beer someone come up to me usually female i'm like are you korean you know i'm like why yes i am i don't really have to prove it you know it's just oh my god i love i love bts i'm like now i'm like yes me too and you see i look nothing like them right well you look like bts is security yes i do like um i have one action star the big guy the chunky oh from train to busan yeah i had a really attractive friend of mine she's told me that and i was like yes this is my way yeah yeah he's a he's a badass yeah don leigh i don't think yeah yeah i want to yeah i got i got there uh comparison the first time and i was like a little offended and now i'm like i love it well when did this start happening oh man if i had to when did you see the boost when did you start having non-asian inception whether they were white or black or latina or whatever even a different type of asian let's say southeast asian come up to you and be like are you cool and you go i might be uh i don't know i guess um a little like for your old heads big bang you know when big bang was first starting i would say right they definitely helped a lot gen two yes the kpop group yeah and then you know for sure like bts uh you know full throttle yeah and all the way and i look nothing like dude do you understand that as three chinese guys here we've never by a decent looking woman has have they approached me and been like are you chinese yo like maybe once in my life yes that that that is like it so it does not happen but the thing is i feel like your time is gonna come no i just gotta enjoy it as much yeah i gotta i gotta milk the wave i gotta milk this bro yeah that's what it is do you feel do you ever get with your korean bros and talk about this and being like dude my app is like you put the little yin yang flag in there you put the little korean i will say this i will say this you know on just behalf of asian males i think it's my you know my duty our my duty to represent us you know if you chinese whatever asian you are i will do my best for you know for us we thank you for your service thank you bet thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you no problem i guess i guess this and this is to switch it to the chinese side ling jie is it ever gonna come for chinese guys dude what is happening for korean guys right now in the in the dating market is it ever gonna come for chinese guys okay i'm gonna break this down right height is a very big factor because a lot of people have heightism ben is lucky enough to be six foot two right so a lot of these stereotypical like hot korean kpop k drama guys are actually of the taller variety right i would say more of the k drama guys than the kpop guys that's true that's true to your point i have noticed that the younger generation of chinese americans or like chinese people that have come up from overseas they are ridiculously tall i'm not sure if they're like on a better milk diet or something but that is going to add to it right so i do think there is a time for it in terms of like the physical appeal i'm talking about now if you want to talk about like culturally speaking that is kind of tough right because it's not like western culture is not familiar with chinese culture already they're very familiar right well they're familiar and they're against it yeah they're familiar against it so like we have to play against that as well right there are a little like there are political reasons why it's harder for a chinese guy to be as popular as a korean guy is right we don't have the wave of k dramas and uh um kpop to like use to like boost us up right right we don't like how samsung is the number two phone company in america but huawei got banned yeah and ling j you ever raise a good point is that there has been decades actually let's just say a century of exposure to chinese culture yes and to this point americans are still like ah that shit is different yeah that i i love selective exposure i can use chopsticks but that ain't american culture like we're still separating and in that i think the the alienness that chinese culture gets seen with is like as an america asian american like i can understand it but it's still kind of like shocking to me sometimes one final point like chinese food chinese cuisine is fire it can hit it can be the greatest thing that yeah everyone loves it but that is not sexy that's not sexy in the way that uh korean music is k drama is right chinese food even if it's superior even if they love it that's not gonna get you dates necessarily right if you're younger you cannot present cuisine and use that as a reason why to like get more dates dude if you make the music that makes them dance they will let you get in their pants usually that's it it's more about it's more about uh yeah it's less it's more about the music and less about the munchies yes yes yes yes more about the music less about the yummies yeah what what's the future of the asian american identity i mean i you guys are now you know deep in the podcast space millions of millions of millions of views you guys constantly create viral clips here and there that you know on this platform or that platform 10 20 30 million i mean how connected are you with other asian american podcasters and where do you see this whole thing going i think like the good or the bad thing is it's still a very small bubble right however you want to view it's a very small bubble so we are fortunately able to connect with creators like yourself other podcasters other like cbs five is asking you to be right it's not it's not it's still a very small group right no matter how uh mainstream it is it's still a very small group of us so we have the luxury of actually being able to connect and do stuff like this collab on things like that but at the same time i do think that that bubble needs to grow and how do we grow it i honestly don't know that's the tough question right i'm not going to give you the right answer on that you look at how big uh korean media is you look at how big chinese food is it's still not enough so that it's mainstream and acceptable by everyone so i see the world where us asians are blending together and can come together hopefully but like i talked about before asians of different places we have different priorities right so it's going to be hard it's it's a challenge but i think it's going to come people in representation mode some people in survival mode some people just get trying to own a hundred buildings or a hundred houses mode right yeah um anything ben close with uh no i just want to say like you know piggybacking on what lindsey's saying is you know like look at us right now right like i'm surrounded by three handsome chinese men right and you guys put me on put us on you know and this is the part where i'm trying to say like we're trying to work together you know create that unison you know um i think now we're living in a time where people are starting to recognize because before everyone just assumed you're chinese if you're asian you're chinese right but now the fact that people you know with technology i guess you're gonna say social media wise people actually take the time of like oh there's actual you know nuances differences you know little things that they can now pay attention to all right so yeah that's cool man uh shout out to the worst asian podcast guys check out their link down below lindsey and ben uh just two asian guys who wanted a podcast and talking about relatable asian things man and uh i appreciate it and uh full i mean we knew ben for years partying with ben by the way partying k-town big guy i was like big guy it was like you know but it's cool but it's cool now we're in a similar space content creators appreciate it man appreciate that you guys are on and good to get to know lindsey here so everybody check them out down below worst asian podcast who knows maybe it could be the best asian podcast one day but they uh are asian and show a lot of humility so