 Thank you so much for staying with us, you watching the day briefing Y25 for TV, time for us to talk about the politics of the day. I'm speaking to political analyst Cyrus Litzog. Good evening sir. Pleasure to have you again, like always. Now your people, your young people are at it again. You always reprimand them about they seem not to hear you. It is all about ignorance and you see ignorance has no defense. When it becomes defiance then the society will deal with you. Now the incident that happened yesterday in Muranga is a sudden incident. It's something that should not be happening at this particular moment. Because you see when we, when Kenyans or when the majority of Kenyans voted in Guru Ruto in 2013, they were perceived as young guys, young presidency. But it has demonstrated otherwise. And whatever we are seeing in this country, if we are not going to handle or to deal with it right now, in the best way they will have a problem in the future. Very true. Looking at young people how they are being misused and abused by our politicians or the political elite as we could put it, the level of ignorance that we have been seeing on our young people is that we are very idle that every politician that comes on ground to call on us or we are paying the peanuts young people are given to go and cause chaos. Do you think it's because we are idle or it's just because we have some level of polygynesia in us? As I stated earlier on I said it is all about ignorance. Because you can create activity for your own self that you will engage in. Because there are so many, you see there are classes of youths. We are all in different class. There are those who didn't go to school because of one or two reasons, so they are there. There are those who went to school but they didn't succeed in whatever they were working for. So they are there. And there are those who are schooled, well informed and they are there. So each and every person is categorized differently. And you see the government what it has done or our political leaders what they have done what they have done is they have decided not to create sources of employment for all these people for them to use them whenever they want them. So that they can ride their agenda by riding on the youths. And this is a thing that we should all of us denounce. We should not be part and parcel of driving someone's agenda in a negative way. You have mentioned those classes of youth who are on the ground and who are used by our politicians. Would you say they do this because they are frustrated a lot? It's not all about frustration, it's all about choices. I have decided, I have chose that, you see, let me say this. We all subscribe to a political party. That one is undisputed. We all subscribe to a political party. And where I subscribe as a youth, there is another youth who subscribe there. But we all have different ideologies. We all have different reasons to why we are there. I am there as a heckler. That is what I can do best. I am there as an advisor. That's what I can do best. So I will stay there. In each and every market, there is a mad person. We can never lack a mad person. So it's a narrative. But how are we going to change this narrative? We have less hecklers. Papus driven youth in each and every institution that we have. Mentioning that they are not frustrated people, it's about a choice. But also we have our politicians who use them in this case of you are my people. Or maybe they are giving some little money to go and do this and that. They will celebrate having gotten some money. But what was witnessed in Moranga comes even after a series of other events were witnessed in Western region. You remember what has been happening a few days ago. And now, why are we not learning from our mistakes? Who do we blame other than our politicians? Because there's a call that has been made by Honoborilo Odinga from politicians. But again, who should we be blaming? We should blame the leaders we have, the leaders we elect. Then we should also blame ourselves as youths. One, we have decided not to raise our voices calling for institutions being built or being created for us to have employment opportunities. But we have decided to be there as psychophants and hecklers so that we can be given a token in a day. But if we use that opportunity in a positive way, then our economy as a country will grow. Let us use that platform instead of going to throes, instead of creating chaos, instead of shouting and throwing stone at a fellow youth just because you've been bought in one or the other just to create an atmosphere that is not friendly, an atmosphere that will perceive that so and so is strong or so I'm standing with so and so. It's a very bad narrative. But let us create a scenario where youths will meet, youths will follow leaders, youths will follow their demands on the table. They have their stake at the table. Not only where we are there to be used, then after an agenda has been achieved, we are nowhere. And that has always been the perception. Even now when we talk of, see right now Deputy President is calling on, let me say, let us have a transparent, let us stop corruption. But sometimes back he was in the same place, he never said let us stop corruption. He never talked anything concerning it. Right now where the former premier, what is the former premier is talking about? It is the same thing that happened. Several occasions you've seen youths suffer, youths have been killed, youths have been clobbered by the GSU, the police, because they are subscribing and following the former premier. These things have happened. So it is all about double standard that our leaders portray. And this is what we need to say. And it has come out very clearly. And this is what we need to say down and say, we are not going to be used. But let us air our voices. We need industries, we need employment opportunities in the country so that our youth can get that chance and that space. All right. Now do you think it's irony for the former premier reloadinga to call on hold for these political meetings considering he himself has also been on the rallies of the BBI? And that's why I say these are what we call double standard. Because when it suits you, you are very comfortable. When it does not suit you, you will cry. It applies to both. No one is perfect. But we only come out to lament and cry when something is affecting us. All right. Now let's talk about the law enforcement. We all know it is in the public domain, even in the constitution that our police are to maintain law and order. We have politicians who have been denied meetings or political meetings and others have been allowed. Like it happened over the weekend in western region. We saw Malala saying the police have been used. And even this is a statement that has been used by the deputy president Dr William Bruto. Are our police really being used by some members of the political class? What I can say is that it depends which side are you at the end of the day. And you see there is what we call push and pull. There is an agenda that the government is pushing. There is an agenda that the perceived position is pushing. So it depends at the end of the which side are you. And I still repeat there is what we call double standard in politics. Especially in our politics in the country. When everything favors you, you will never cry. And I repeat the place where the DP is today. In the same place where the former premier was. Former premier used to cry about the police being used. Right now the deputy president crying about the police being used. So let us stop applying double standard. Let us know that when you are in leadership, it has served and carried out our responsibility. We are supposed to carry out our responsibility. Because today I will be in leadership. Tomorrow someone else will be in leadership. And what I do today will come back to me tomorrow. So we have to be very very careful when we are in that leadership. Let us not allow power to control us. But we should control the power that we have been given and mandated to lead. Are there still the politicians that we expect them to pass based on policies that will protect the common monainchi when it comes to political rallies that they have been calling and the fracas that we are witnessing. We have an institution like the NCIC. Already it has broken the voice and they have said something regarding this. But also when these people have been held accountable, of course in chaos we hear nothing about them maybe being jailed if it is a hate speech. We have no bills, we have no laws that will jail someone. What should be the way forward? It is not that we don't have laws, we have laws in place. But NCIC is a backing dog that will only back but won't bite. Or it is a toadless dog. Because you see NCIC since its establishment how many people have been arrested and convicted of hate speech. None. When you go to the record, none. So it is an institution that is there, it doesn't understand its mandate, it is remote controlled. And when you are remote controlled it becomes a problem to the nation. Because this is a national institution that is supposed to stand up and carry out its mandate independently without any favours to anyone. So that we can have a cohesive environment, a cohesive nation. But a cohesive nation with a toadless institution that is supposed to create cohesiveness in the nation then we are just like a banal public. And the other thing is the president should stamp feats and authority on each and everything because there is no way we can be say the president is rolling at the moment and we are carrying out politics day in day out like we are going to an election tomorrow. There are only few countries in Africa in East Africa that are yet to carry out their elections. That is Tanzania and Uganda in January. Tanzania is yet to carry out elections I think in November. Uganda has to carry out its elections in January. So we are like a political climate in the country that has always been there since. You can't tell when is an election time and you can't tell when is the time for our leaders to sit down and implement their manifestos because each and every political parties have always said gave its manifesto to the people and elaborated it very well but when it comes to a time when they are in the office none of them is doing so. We are only politicking politicking from the day of election to another day of election. Now to wind up this discussion we have a section of leaders from Kiambo County who have called on the president to work in order to have a dialogue with his deputy to end the settlement that has been there. Do you think the president when he does that if he does that do you think the political temperatures that have been witnessed in the past few days and the dynasty and the Hassler thing will end? You see it's already out with the people. It is fine for the presidents to turn down the political temperatures in the country right now by ensuring that as they said Jubilee is a national party with the main agenda of uniting each and every Kenyans that's why other parties folded to form up one party so they should sit down and look into that and say okay fine there are these issues there are these issues and solve them to have peace in the country but the things of dynasty and Hassler it's something that is already down in the people how are we going to stop it it's only during election the only thing maybe the president can do today maybe it's banned the parliament and called for an election we ready for that as an issue we are not ready for that at the moment because we have a lot of things to be done we need to focus on the covid thing on how students will go to school so there are so many things that we need to do as a country unlike election rights now because it's not even the time for election all right you have final recommendations to the young people again to do the good cause for them but I know you will never tire to what do you have for them tonight? just tell them let us not be complacent let us use get something to do involve yourself in productive activity let us not waste our time and waste our energy because when a bullet finds you it won't spare you that's very quite true thank you so much for finding your time here Sairaz and speaking to the young people again and again and I'm hoping someday they will have heeded to your wisdom and a lot from your mistakes and back home thank you so much for keeping it 1-2-5-4 my name is Edereva Hilewi I'll be leaving you in the safe hands of DJ TS Kaken Relbis and Colondo Nwai Mashariki stay tuned and enjoy the rest of our programming I'll be seeing you again tomorrow same time, same place until then good night