 Hello, we're here at the ID TechEx show and I'm at the booth of D'Lectra. Welcome, Antti. Thank you, thank you. Good, so I've known Antti for a number of years now and you work your many different things from flat printed cables, but this in particular I think is very exciting, this ring giving us a range of indicators about condition. Tell us more, Antti. Yeah, this is a ring we have been doing for several years now and we're currently at the phase of zero series so we're about to push this to the market. Background is from hyperspectral measurement that was originally made for University of Vasa and University Hospital of Tampere and it was a camera system that uses this multi-measurement and we thought that it would be nice to have a kind of ring measurement with that just to reduce some of the pixels so that what we are getting there is eight different wavelengths and the way it works it shines light into the skin, it reads a reflection off which gives you a range of different data points. So the different LED wavelengths, they penetrate the different things, some of the light will absorb into the finger and the other one is reflecting back and so that's why we are having a photo died there to make the measurement so we are measuring the change. Right and what does it tell you, what parameters does it tell you? We have been thinking about the user interface for the app, something like what would be really simple and easy to follow and it's kind of from a metabolic state of your body, is your body building or is it disassembling so it tells you when to eat or how the food is affecting your body so that this is kind of, we are helping people to stay in balance. Right and it's interesting that the change from the first version you made to the second so this looks like a solar cell on top with a rechargeable battery. Yes, yes so there is charging only from solar module so there is no, that is wireless charging of course and we found it quite a kind of a design feature to have it there and there is actually the transparent plastic tape with a plastic part inside, it's kind of a one-to-one scale of the electronics we are going to have. In the future we will shrink everything but it is the zero series, it's about that and we can do the ring in a way that the substrate we are using as a PCB, flexible PCB, we can print there 16 million different colors, we can cut it out of the roll-to-roll sheet with a laser in a different shapes and we can, the final nice thing is that when we do the ring to the ring shape we just wrap the electronics and coat it with transparent coating so it is extremely lightweight and durable ring and what we can do also is that we can gold plate the PCB so that we have really a golden ring so it's a lot of different options and I think this kind of technology is probably not much use in a consumer electronics and packaging is normally the hard part of these smart rings and this is kind of a thing that we are trying to avoid the one step there so it's a one process where we push the rings out. So how far away do you think this is from being commercial? The zero series is coming in probably one month, two months and then we are launching a crowdfunding campaign on autumn time. If everything is going as planned so the first zero series then we are doing a lot of field testing and our goal is to have the first rings delivered in the beginning of next year. Fantastic. Antti, thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you.