 Welcome back up to the break. Just before the break, we went for a break. Sorry, I forgot to put my headset on. Okay, welcome back up to the break. Just before we went for a break, we were looking at how... Lesson two, how Jesus is equal with God the Father and God the Holy Spirit. And we were looking at various scripture passages and one scripture passage that we were dwelling on was Isaiah chapter nine verse six where Isaiah is prophesying, revealing to us that this child who is to be born is the son. And he gives titles to who this son is and the title is talking about his attributes, what he's going to do. So we see that he's going to be the wonderful counselor, mighty God, everlasting Father and Prince of Peace. So like Jackon said, you know, counselor is ascribed to the Holy Spirit as well, God the Holy Spirit. He's the one who counsels us. And these two titles or these two names that Isaiah prophesies about the son that he's going to be the mighty God and the everlasting Father. And both of these names ascribed to Yahweh, God of the Old Testament, or to ascribe to God himself, that he is almighty, he's all powerful, he's a mighty God. And so even the son is mighty, which is here proving again that God the Son is equal with God the Father. Just like God the Father is mighty, God the Son is also mighty. And just as God the Father, he's everlasting and is referred to as the Father, God as the Father in the Old Testament. But we see that Jesus comes to reveal the Father and he reveals not just the Father who's somebody like an earthly Father in terms of roles, someone who's distinct, somebody who's, you know, punishes the children when they do something wrong or, you know, someone who's not connecting with the family like some fathers, but Jesus reveals the Father as above Father, which is more in terms of an intimate relationship. And he's saying, hey, this Father who you know in the Old Testament who's revealed as the Father in the Old Testament, you know, he's not just a father in terms of, you know, that he's ahead or he's, he does what he wants in terms of his role, but he's somebody who's, you know, in terms of somebody who's waiting to relate to us intimately, he's the above Father. Okay, and you can know him as the above Father. But here, you know, these two names that is ascribed to God, mighty God and everlasting Father is ascribed to God the Son. So again, proves to us that Jesus is co-equal with God the Father. But even as these, this name everlasting Father and mighty God, you know, everlasting Father that no beginning, no end, eternity past, eternity future, you know, is ascribed to Jesus, it does not conflict, it's not going to be conflicting with God the Father. So God the Father say, hey, he's not going to say, hey, those titles are for me, you know, it cannot be ascribed to the Son. So we'll give him different titles, you know, or Jesus did not say, hey, this title I am is only for my father. I can't use it. But when we look at all of these titles and names and what Jesus, you know, confirms about himself or declares about himself, it's not something that is conflicting with God the Father. But it is something that is showing that they are, even though they are three distinct persons, three distinct personalities, they are co-equal in their nature in the attributes and there is perfect unity and oneness amongst themselves. So basically here, these two words, mighty God and everlasting Father reveals Christ's eternal nature that he's everlasting from eternity past, eternity future. There's never a point when he wasn't there, there would never be a point when he was ceased to exist. He always was, always is, always will be. And he talks about his attributes and his character, which is similar to his father, hence proving that he is deity, that he is God, and that he is co-equal or equal with God the Father. Okay. Any questions so far? Any questions? Yes, sir. I just have not really a question, but like clarifying. Sorry Nina, I couldn't hear you from the beginning, could you repeat that please, sorry? Yeah, I said it, I'm just clarifying, are you able to hear me? Yes. Yeah, okay. Because these verses start, sixth verse, it's talking about the sun, right? For unto us, a child is born and the sun is given. So all those attributes which follow are talking about the sun, right? Yes. The sun is on his shoulders and he will be called wonderful and counselor and mighty God and everlasting Father too, right? Yes. So then when, so normally when we pray, I mean like the Lord told us, I mean gave us a model to pray, we do say, you know, we pray to the Father, right? Yes. And in the name of Jesus. But here when they say Jesus is also the everlasting Father. So then we don't need to differentiate. Is that what comes from here? Because it's saying everlasting Father too. I mean Prince of Peace, yes, we always attribute Jesus when we say everlasting Father. So Jesus too is the Father. Is that it? Yes. Because see for them, good question Nina, for them, there is no confusion, you know. You know, and even for us, there shouldn't be confusion because we see God as just one, there is one God. That is for our understanding, we are trying to relate to God as God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. Yes, there are three distinct personalities in terms of roles, but they're all co-equal. They have the same nature, same essence that makes them God. But you know, when we are just praying it, yes, we, you know, we have an understanding. So in the Old Testament, we don't say, okay, so when God said this was it God, the Father who said it or God, the Holy Spirit or God, the Son. We just look at it as God. We have the same understanding, but just for us to have more clarity about their roles, we have distinct persons. Okay. Fine. Yeah. Thank you. And the other one, Philippians 2, 5 to 7 also, when they say, when the scripture says that he did not think it, some version says robbery or did not forcefully retain his thing. So are we saying that, you know, did he lay as a he being in very nature, God did not consider equality with God, something to be used to his own advantage. Rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant. So there are we saying that he laid aside his deity. Is that what happened? But because he was not omnipresent, no, when he came down in the form of a servant. Yes. No, he was not omnipresent. Yes. Yeah, but he was, but he, he was all knowing so he was, what is that, what is the word for that omniscient and omnipotent? Omniscient. Yeah, he was all knowing yet that was definitely there, but he was not omnipresent. When he took on the nature of a servant. So are we saying like, what did he lay aside? Was he a man in just like any of us in the right relationship with God? Because there are scriptures which talk about, you know, when he is, when he was to be, when he was to heal that the power of the Lord was present to heal. Right. Jesus himself was there. But still it refers to the power of the Lord being present, referring to the presence of the Holy Spirit. So is, when he came in human likeness, was he just like any of us? When we say that he laid aside deity or, you know, when he, so what does that mean? Because he was not omnipresent. That I'm sure of that he was not omnipresent, but the other attributes were still there. Or, you know, how do we look at that? Yes. Good question. So yes, the first thing I like to say is he was fully God, fully human, fully man, 100% God, 100% man. Okay. So here on this verse, when he says that he gave, you know, did not consider it to be robbery, but to be equal with God, you know, made himself of no reputation. He gave up. It's talking about, you know, he ceased not to be completely God, but he gave up his nature of being omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient. These three things. Omnipotent, he was not all powerful, omniscient. He was not all knowing and omnipresent. So when you say, how can we say that he was not omniscient because he knew everything? It was all of this. And how was he not omnipotent when he did such powerful miracles? You know, it was all through the power of the Holy Spirit. Okay. So that we read again in Matthew chapter four, when after the temptation, he was led out in the wilderness in the power of the spirit. And also Jesus says, I only say what I hear my father say. I only do what I see my father doing. So all of this was revelation. And that is why Jesus is saying you can do greater things than what I have done is because he's saying, hey, I did this as a human being. So what Jesus basically modeled for us was, yes, he is God who became man. But he gave up all of these natures that makes him, you know, that omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient. And that's why he's saying that, hey, you can do greater miracles than what I have done through the power of the Holy Spirit. And, you know, the mysteries can be revealed to you through revelations. You know, and all that he's trying to model is the importance of having an intimacy with God through which you can realign yourselves to all of these things which can be made available to you. Yes. So, which means that he really gave up all of that, all that, all that we're talking about. And so he was just truly just like us in every sense of the word. Yes. Like, you know, became like it says, he became like us in every, in every sense. He did not have a high praise. Yes. Yes. And that's why he's able to understand and comprehend. But even as we go through this course, you will understand, you know, how was he fully dating in spite of him giving up his omnipotent, his nature of being omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent. So we'll go slowly step by step. Yeah, yeah. No, yeah. Wonderful. Thank you. Yeah. That's a good question. Thank you for highlighting that. Yes. Karen, you have a question. Yeah. I wanted to know. Now, when Jesus came to the earth, he used to pray to the father. And he also said that I will do my father's will. So is it, it's like being submissive to the father. So are they still co equal or is it time to teach us how to have that father relationship with God? Yes. Good question. See, like I said, we're going to be even studying, you know, when Jesus says, you know, I've come from the father. And so he's trying to prove that he is God. He is co equal to father, but he says the father's greater than I, you know, it's it. I'll explain that later in terms of role, but in not in terms of nature. Okay. In terms of role. Yes. You know, the God, the father is greater than God, the son, God, the Holy Spirit. He says, you know, when only he says when the Holy Spirit comes, he will reveal only what the father tells him what I tell him to say. Okay. And so, you know, we can say, okay, then, you know, Holy Spirit is a lesser being than God, the father and God, God, the son and God, the son is a lesser being then God, the father. But in terms of role, yes, you know, there can be this kind of thing. But in terms of their nature attributes, they are God. So there is no distinction between that. So they're co equal in all in every sense, accepting for the role that is just for us to understand, but does not make them any lesser in them being God. There is only one God and who, you know, in three persons, God, the father, God, the son, but the Holy Spirit. But all three are co equal and, you know, have the same nature and the same, and the same essence. So they are one and they are God. So there's no distinction between that. And also here, you know, when Jesus says that, you know, he gives up, you know, that's not considered to be a robbery to be equal with God. He also is showing that, you know, hey, I'm fully human in that sense, you know, I'm submitting to God, the father, I'm only doing what his will is and hence he's modeling to us, you know, how we humans should live. In being submissive in in being obedient in doing what the father is asking you to do and just doing going about doing his with us. So that shows also proves to us that Jesus is completely human shows his humanity, which we will study again. Thank you. Okay. Okay, so we'll move on. We move on to another. We looked at mighty God and everlasting father that the names ascribe to God, the son in the Old Testament. And so we prove that Jesus is co equal or one with the father. It reveals Christ's eternal nature and characteristic as the father. Another name that we will look at is the alpha and the Omega, which is the meaning is beginning and the end to Greek words alpha. The first Omega is the last so beginning and the end. And does Jesus ascribe himself to these names as alpha and Omega? Yes, no. Yes. Okay. Let's look at Revelation chapter 21 versus six and seven. Can one of you read that piece? Revelation chapter 21 versus six and seven. And he said to me, it is done. I am the alpha and the Omega. The beginning and the end. I will give up the foundation of the wall of life. We need him who does you overcomes shown her all things and I will be his God and he should be my son. Okay. So here Jesus saying that he is the alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. We also see that in the Old Testament, God ascribes himself to these titles as the first and the last, the alpha and the Omega. So let's look at two scripture passages. One of you can please read Isaiah chapter 44 verse six. One of you please read Isaiah chapter 44 verse six and someone else can read Isaiah 48 verse 12. That says the Lord, the king of Israel and his redeemer, the Lord of host. I am the first and I'm the last. Besides me, there is no God. Thank you Nina Santosh. Amen to that. So here we see that God revealing himself with saying that he is, you know, the king of Israel that he's a redeemer. He's the Lord of hosts. And he says I am the first and the last besides me that is no God. Okay. So when we look at the Greek words, alpha and Omega, there's the Greek words of the New Testament written in Greek. But here the Old Testament written in Hebrew. So it's mentioned as the first and last. Okay. So you'll be wondering why these names alpha and Omega is not here. It's because alpha and Omega are Greek words and the New Testament written in Greek. But here's when you translate that it's the first and last, but the God of the Old Testament reveals himself as the first and the last. It says besides me that is no God. Can somebody else please read for Isaiah 48 verse 12, please. Listen to me. Oh Jacob and Israel. I am called my my call. I am he. I'm the first. I'm also the last. Yes, we're listening to you Prince. Thank you. Amen. So he has listened to me. Oh Jacob and Israel. So God is saying, you know, he says, I'm called, you know, as I am he or I am the first. I am also the last again, you know, alpha and Omega the translated, you know, the first and the last. So here we see clearly in the Old Testament God refers himself as scribe sees titles to as the first and the last and the Jews knew this because they knew the Old Testament, especially the scribes in those who study the Old Testament, they knew that God referred himself or called himself or the title of the first and last is given to to God himself. And here we see Jesus ascribing himself to this title of Alpha and Omega in Revelation chapter 21 verse six and seven and also in Revelation chapter chapter one was eight and Revelation chapter 22 verse 13. So can one of you please read Revelation chapter one was eight and someone else can read Revelation chapter 22 verse 13 please. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end says the Lord who is and who was and wish to come the Almighty. Thank you. Amen to that and Revelation 22 verse 13. Anybody else can read please Revelation chapter 22 verse 13. I'm the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the last, the beginning and the end the first and the last. Thank you. So here we see the same title that is used for God in the Old Testament Jesus uses it for himself, which shows that he is no lesser in power or divinity. Then the Father is divine. He is God. He's equal with God the Father himself. And you know the beginning and last basically means or the Alpha and Omega basically means that you know everything begins from God. Everything ends in him. Everything that God is the originator of everything in history, all of life, everything that we see and everything comes to an end in him. Everything culminates in him. He is the origin and he is the destination. Okay, so that is the meaning of the words first and last and Alpha and Omega. And so we see that you know the titles first and last that is ascribed that God uses for himself in the Old Testament. Jesus also ascribes these titles to himself. Hence proving that he is God that he's no lesser in power or divinity compared to the Father. Another reference that we can look at is in Romans chapter nine verses four and five. So again one of you please read Romans chapter nine verse four and five please. Who are Israelites to whom pertain the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the service of God and the promises. Of whom are the fathers and from whom according to the flesh Christ came who is overall the eternally blessed God. Amen. Amen. Thank you Rin. So two important facts about Christ that you know Paul, the apostle Paul writes to the church at Rome which you know here is inspired by the Holy Spirit receives a revelation. He says Christ is overall. So you know overall means that he is supreme. He's sovereign. He's the master. He's the Lord. And he knows that he's writing to Jews. And they know that God alone is a supreme. He's a master. He's a sovereign. He is sovereign and that he is Lord. And we need to understand that all of these letters when they were written, you know, to the various churches, most the New Testament, they had a, you know, a very small understanding of very lean understanding of the Old Testament scriptures, because they didn't have scriptures like we have in our hands to read. And also they're trying to understand who is this Messiah, who is this Christ, what is this new moment of Christians that have come up. So, you know, every word that these apostles write, you know, is inspired by the Holy Spirit is basically revealing the Godhead is basically revealing the second person, the Trinity, the third person, the Trinity, their works, what they do. So we can say, okay, I mean, we all know that, you know, God is supreme. He's sovereign. He's a Lord. He's the master. So what is new? I mean, for them in that context, they did not know this. So it's a new revelation for them. So here, you know, Christ is over all, which means he is supreme master sovereign and Lord, which proves to the Jewish audience that hey, this Christ is not just a Messiah is not just a human being, but he is divine. He is, you know, co-equal with the Father, because only the, you know, they understood God of the Old Testament, the God that they knew as supreme, who is the master sovereign as Lord. And Jesus, as Jesus has also described this title, he says, overall, which means he is also God. And again, another thing that Paul mentions here that he is eternally blessed God that Jesus Christ is eternally blessed. God eternally means from eternity to eternity. And just as God, you know, we, the Jews is to describe glory, honor, blessing and power and majesty to the, to their God, the God of the Old Testament, who they know. He's saying this, this God, the Son, Jesus Christ, who is God himself, he's also worthy to receive all glory, honor, blessing, power, majesty, because to him belongs all the glory, because he is God. And so, because he is God, he is co-equal with the Father and co-equal with God, the Holy Spirit as well. We look at just one more scripture before we go on to, you know, what Jesus came to reveal about himself and how he reveals that he's, he had come from the Father and he's also proves that he is co-equal with God, the Father and the Holy Spirit. Before we look at that, we'll just read one more scripture passage in Titus chapter 2 verse 13. So can one of you please read Titus chapter 2 verse 13, please? Titus 2 verse 13, somebody who's never read, can you please read? Looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ. Thank you, Nikhil. So here it says, you know, looking for the blessed hope and the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ. So Jesus is our great God. So we cannot deny the fact that Jesus is God, that he is deity. You know, even though people have questions about his deity, scripture very clearly points out that Jesus is God, okay? So we look at a few passages in scripture from the Gospels that, you know, where Jesus came to reveal the Father. And also when he's revealing the Father, he's also proving that he is a co-equal with the Father, which proves that he is God, okay? So let's look at John chapter 14 verse 7, what Jesus says in John chapter 14 verse 7. Somebody who's not read, can you please read John chapter 14 verse 7, please? If you had known me, you would have known my Father also. And from now on, you know him and have seen him. Thank you, Anand. So here we see that, you know, Jesus is saying that, you know, if you had known me, you would have known my Father. So just basically saying that, hey, you know, I am just as same as my Father, same in nature, same in essence, same in the way I do things as my Father and co-equal with my Father. So if you've seen me and known me, you would, you've also seen the Father and you've also seen, you know, you've also known the Father, you've also seen him because you've known me and you have seen me. Now this is something like blasphemous for the Jews because Jesus is here fully human in front of these people. And how can he ascribe himself, you know, to the Father and leave alone to the Father, talking about himself as equal to the Father, which is so blasphemous. And that's why they were looking for a way to kill Jesus. But let's look at one chapter. We just study a few things that Jesus says in detail in John chapter 5. In John chapter 5 verses 1 to 15, we see Jesus heals a lame man who was invalid for 38 years at the pool of Bethesda. And, you know, the religious leaders as the Pharisees watched Jesus heal this man, this lame man who was lame for 38 years, you know, because, you know, he healed them, healed this man on a Sabbath. They were very angry with Jesus because he dared to violate, you know, the law, that's the mosaic law that says that you should not do anything on the Sabbath. You know, he violated the regulations. So, you know, Jesus could have tried to, you know, smoothen out things, tried to escape, says, you know, he could have said, okay, my father told me to come here to this pool and, you know, to heal only this man. I've done it. Let me just quietly go away. Instead of, you know, already I've created a controversy and these people are going to catch me and all of that. But instead of avoiding the controversy, you know, Jesus claims himself to be equal with God, the Father, which angers the Jews even more, which he does in the same chapter of John chapter five versus 19 to 27. So, can one of you, all of us can turn to John chapter five, please. And one of you can please read, somebody who's not read, can read John chapter five versus 19 to 27 for us. Anyone can read John chapter five versus 19 to 27. Therefore, Jesus answered, and you're saying to them, truly, truly, I pray to you that the Son can do nothing of himself, unless it is something to do with the Father. The Word of the Son does this to the Son, also, just in the same way. 19 to 27. The Father is the Son, and so is everything that Jesus himself is doing. And the Father will show his great-grandson, so that he will be amazed. So just as the Father raised the dead, and gave them life, so the Son also gives life to those whom he wishes. For not even the Father did this to anyone, but he has given all judgment to the Son, so that all will honor the Son, just as they honor the Father. The one who does not honor the Son, does not honor the Father, says so. Truly, truly, I pray to you, the one who hears my word from delusions, who sent me, has eternal life and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Truly, truly, I pray to you, the time has come, and even now has arrived, and the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, who here will live. So just as the Father has life in itself, so he gives the Son, also, to have life in itself, and he gives him authority to achieve this judgment, but because he is the Son of God. Thank you, Vijay. So here we see that Jesus claims to be equal with God the Father. By saying that God was his Father, he's claiming equality with God in terms of, equality with God in terms of his nature, his privilege, and his power. So for example, if you say that someone is your Father, you're basically claiming to possess the same human nature as him, and also that you have the same qualities that describe your Father. So when you say that, you know, hey, I'm Son, so is Father, you're basically saying, you know, he's my Father. So you're saying that, you know, you're claiming to possess the same human nature as your Father, and also you have, you know, other qualities that describe your Father or your earthly Father. So here when Jesus is saying that, yes, I'm human, you know, but he's saying that, you know, I've come from the Father. I only hear what my Father says. I only do what my Father says. And all of these things which we have read, you know, Jesus is basically claiming to be equal with God the Father in nature, his privilege, and his power. He's also saying, you know, what kind, when he's associating himself with his Father, he's saying, hey, that's my nature. It's like the Father is God, I'm also God, because I have the same nature, just like God the Father is almighty, supreme, all powerful, eternal. I'm also that because I enjoy the same nature, privileges, and the power as the Father. So here we see that he's claiming to possess the same divine nature as God the Father in himself, along with all the divine attributes that God the Father has. Jesus says, I also have, and so he's just claiming to possess the same divine nature and attributes that God the Father has in himself. And the Jews caught this, and they rightly understood that Jesus is claiming equality with God. Okay, and that's why they were all out to kill him and to get done with him. Okay, because they thought that this was what they were hearing is blasphemous or blasphemy. Okay, in John chapter five verse 21, we read that, you know, Jesus says, as the Father raises the dead and gives life to them, even so whom he will. So here the word life here is Zoe, and, you know, the Jews knew that only God had life in himself. God had the power to give life. And now Jesus is claiming here that he has the same power as God the Father, that he also gives life. And he also has life in himself. Verse 22, just as it was read to us, you know, we read that for the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son. So the Jews knew that God alone could judge the world. He alone is the true and the righteous judge. Now, when Jesus claims that the Father has given him the privilege, and he goes on to verse 23 says why he's been given the privilege. Because he says, God, the Father has given him the privilege to judge so that all should honor the Son, just as they honor the Father. He says he who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him. So this was again too much for the Jews to bear to listen because the Jews believe that only God was to be honored and worshiped. And they were so zealous about this. They were so strong on this. It was a strong ideology that they had that they would never bow down and worship anyone. And that's why we see, you know, Saul, who was very zealous Jew who knew the Old Testament taught us so well because he studied under great teachers. One of them was Gamaliel. For him to see other Jews worshiping. Jesus was something blasphemous and that's why he was all out to persecute them. And also in the Roman world, the Jews who went through a lot of persecution because, you know, this Caesar, you know, there were different Caesars called as kings, you know, like Nero and all that. They considered themselves to be God in those days, pharaohs and rulers and kings were considered. They considered themselves to be God and people used to worship them. But, you know, even and they used to ascribe them the authority, the power that they ascribe to God, they would call them Lord, they would call them God as well. But, you know, in the New Testament, we see that Christians would never do that. They would never ascribe the title of God or Lord to to the kings or the Nero or the other Caesars who, you know, who ruled the Roman Empire. And that was, you know, that made these these rulers very, very angry. And that also was one of the reasons that led to persecution because, you know, of course the Christians used to live in obeying the rules and the laws, but they would never ascribe this title of God or Lord to the kings. They would never bow down and worship him, worship them. And we also see in the Old Testament, Mordecai are not doing that to the king and to Haman. And that is why Haman was so angry with Mordecai. So the Jews believe that only God was to be honored and worshiped. You know, Jesus is saying, you know, why has the father given the son committed him to judge is because the son should also be honored just like the father is honored. And he says, who does not honor the son does not honor the father who sent him. And again, Jesus is, you know, bringing about his equality with God, the father, and saying, hey, just like God, the father is honored and worshiped. You know, I also deserve that same kind of honor and worship because I am God. So Jesus claims the right to be worshiped, honored as the father has. Again, proves or emphasizes the unity in the Godhead between the father and the son. What is done to one is also done to the other because they are equal, they are co-equal, and they are God. Another, you know, statement that Jesus makes in John chapter 14, verse 28, can one of you read that, please? John chapter 14, verse 28. Anyone can read John chapter 14, verse 28. You have heard me say to you, I'm going away and coming back to you. If you love me, you rejoice because as I said, I'm going to the father. My father is greater than I am. Thank you, Amen. Thank you, Rin. So here we see that, you know, Jesus is saying that I'm going back to the father. I have come from the father and I'm going back to him. And then he says, for my father is greater than I. So here Jesus is basically talking about his origin, where does he from? You know, also talking about him being equal with God the father. But then he says, for my father is greater than I, it does not mean that he's a lesser being than God the father. Or he's a demigod or, you know, an intermediate or a lesser being than God the father. But, you know, Christ is describing basically his role to the father and not his nature. So here he's not describing his nature, but he's describing his role in comparison to his father. So there is a difference between one's role and one's nature. In nature he's, you know, he's from the father. That means his origin is from, you know, is not from this earth. He's the same in nature and in essence, in attributes like we looked at in John chapter 5 and other scripture passages. So here the difference is between one's role and not one's nature. So you need to remember that very clearly. In nature, God the father, God the son, God the Holy Spirit, all are co-equal. The same nature that makes God God, but they have different roles. Just to give you an example to understand this and not saying that we can use this to understand the concept of Trinity because, you know, God transcends all of human relationship. But just for our understanding is, for example, if you look at the biblical marriage relationship, we read in Ephesians chapter 5 verses 22 to 33, the husband and wife have different roles. Okay. Not only do they have different roles, but also we see in scripture that the husband is greater in office than a wife. So, you know, the husband is the head of the family. We read this in Ephesians chapter 5 verse 3. So in terms of role, in terms of office, the husband is greater than the wife. Okay. In terms of their roles. But in another sense, we know that husbands and wives are equal because both of them have the same human nature. Both of them are, John Genesis chapter 1 verse 27. Both of them are created in the image of God, in the image and the likeness of God. So, and before God, there is no June or Greek, male or female, all are one. So in terms of equality, they are equal in their nature because both of them have the same human nature. But in terms of role, yes, in terms of the office, the man is greater than the wife because he is the head of the family. So the same way, when you look at the father, the son, the Holy Spirit, they all have the same nature and attributes that make them God. Okay. And that's why they call God. So they're equal in nature, but they have different roles. But by using this marriage example or this marriage relationship, it's a dim reflection of the person of the Godhead. We're not saying this is how they operate. No, it's just an example for us to understand, but we can't compare the persons of the Godhead to marriage relationship. But what we're saying here is different roles they have, but they are co-equal in terms of their nature and attributes, they're co-eternal persons of the Trinity and they have one divine nature. So they're co-equal, they're co-eternal persons of the Trinity and they are one in their divine nature and that is why they are called God. So when we understand this phrase for my father is greater than I, we need to understand it in terms of role and not in nature. Okay. Just a last scripture passage we will see which proves to us that Jesus is also co-equal with God, the Holy Spirit. John chapter 15 verse 26. Can one of you please read that? Somebody who's not read please. John chapter 15 verse 26. John chapter 15 verse 26. But when the helper comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, the split of truth who proceeds from the Father, he will testify of me. Amen. Thank you, Vimal. So here, who is this helper that Jesus is talking about? Who is this helper? The Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit. Okay. Thank you. So here it's referring to the Holy Spirit. You see it's a capital H helper, it's referring to the Holy Spirit. It says, whom I shall send to you from the Father, the split of truth, the split of truth again revealing or referring to the Holy Spirit who proceeds from the Father, he will testify of me. Okay. So here we see the split of God comes from the Father and he will reveal Jesus Christ. So note the equality in origin. Jesus says that I have come from the Father. I'm going back to the Father. The Holy Spirit is going to come from the Father. So equality in terms of origin, see the unity they have in the operation between themselves, between the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit. Perfect unity in terms of their operation and how they go about doing things. And hence we see that Jesus is co-equal with God the Father and also God the Holy Spirit. Okay. We just have one minute before we end class. Anyone has any questions? Any questions? Okay. If there are no questions, I would request you to please take some time. Just half an hour just to go through it. So there's this clarity and if you have any doubts, you can ask me when we meet the next class. Okay. The last reference, since we've run out of time, Nina, John, can I explain that next week? Is that okay? Because I'll have to rush to the next class and all of you also have to go to the next class. Is that fine? Okay. Okay. Thank you everyone for joining class today. Have a blessed day and the rest of the week. Thank you. God bless you.