 Welcome back to the run-up. The leadership of a court in Lagos State endorsed Governor San Wulu, his deputy, Dr. Obafemi Hamzat for re-election and the APC candidates in Saturday's polls. Other political parties included the, well includes the Young Progressive Party, that's the YPP, the APP Action Democratic Party, ADP, the Allied People's Movement, the Zenith Labor Party, the New Nigeria People's Party, and People's Redemption Party at an event held in Lagos. That announcement was made. I also understand that seven government-ship candidates have also stepped down for the APC government-ship candidates of Lagos. And joining us to discuss this is Honorable Dele Oladiji, Lagos State Chairman at Court Party. Hello, you're welcome to the program. Yeah, good morning. We also have Theophilus Akatuba. He is a media consultant and public affairs analyst. Hello, Mr. Akatuba. You're welcome to the run-up. And I'm good to be with you in the period of just laying for the votes. Yes, very interesting period indeed. Yes, but we must appreciate the development we are recording. Definitely. And not forgetting my co-host, Adebayo Olouake. Adebayo, it's good to still have you with us. Yes, my pleasure, always. All right, let me start with you, Mr. Dele Oladiji of the Labor Party. I called. I called Party, I beg your pardon. Your party has endorsed the government-ship candidate of the APC. But also in all your states, your party splits already. Some members of your parties are going for the APC, some for the PDP, and some are still with the Accord Party, confused, not sure what to do. And in 2017, one of your major stakeholders, Rashidi Ladogia, they come from your party and joined another party. That makes me wonder how relevant you're joining any other party at this point in time is and why any other party should be jittery about your alliance with the APC at this point. Okay, thank you so much. One thing is that every politics is local. So I will speak majorly on legal states where I'm the state chairman. But I will touch a little on all your states. The sort of, all I see, difference and then divergence group in all your states Accord is actually orchestrated by one of the party leaders there. In the person of Dr. Honorable Bukola Jaja. She's the former national secretary. Though she's sitting tight, we have been trying to like, let us have a national congress since last year, January. So we can bring in a new set of leadership, but they realize they are tenor as inspired beyond the constitutional limits. They don't want to go. That is herself and the former national chairman, Alaji Naladu Mohamed. So what she's doing in New York City is, I don't know, she's not disciplined and she has been running in one person's shoe. So what she did actually was like, she went to endorse Shea Makhindi. That's your word against her? Yeah, I can, I'm saying it with every clear conscience. She endorsed Shea Makhindi, even without the knowledge of her partner in, let me say electoral crime, Alaji Mohamed Naladu. So now that's what caused the conflict. She endorsed Shea Makhindi without the knowledge of the, of her partner. And Alaji Naladu is now fighting her back. But one thing is, are called as a party, still remain. The structure still remain with Barista Uyeniji. And the leadership in New York City is still Mogadji, Sunday Igbishola. So the party structure in New York City still remain. While Alaji is like on the fringe, trading with the party name, and Alaji Mohamed Naladu on the fringe, trading with the party name. Now I wouldn't like to say much on New York City because it's out of my own jurisdiction. Now in legal states, yes, we have endorsed Governor Shea, and Governor Babaji De Somolu. And these are very first time of, former alliance with APC. APC have been ruling party in legal states since 1919, I went away AD, AC, ACN, and APC now. But this very person I refer to in your state, Ajaja, when we're pushing in legal states, we are very radical in legal states. We're pushing for a national congress, which is according to the party constitution that we're writing, she declined. Realize that any national congress will make a exit this seat. So we went to court and we won the case in May. So they look for a way to like jeopardize our sabotage our efforts in legal states. So that's why they now bring in some imposters to lock down our tickets in legal states. So even I can see it with every clear conscience that if you look through the street of legal states, if you see any post of a court party in legal states, the posters that we've posted in the local government election in 2021. So we have this here whereby there's a person holding onto our governorship ticket, but he's not campaigning. He's like, if you steal a trumpet of a king, where will you blow it? So as a party, we went to court, we're trying to like get our legitimate candidates on the list of high-necked. Our party candidate for gubernatorial seats in legal cities, Pastor Peter Obayuwana, is a retired deputy controller of prison. And then we have some at the group for the legal centers in Torres Strait and others too. So we went to court, we're slugging down to like get our list, our legitimate candidate on the list. We, it was all successful. Just like they have it in AA and ADC and so. So we can't sit back as a party and allow illegitimate person to go through the electoral system. They might get into office. Now, between when your party aligned with the Labor Party before the presidential election and when you started having this, when did your candidacy change? And when did you start having problems with the candidate of their court party? Candidates of a court party has been on since the very time when candidate list was released last year, September. So we didn't actually align with Labor Party. I think there have been some misconstruction about that. It wasn't the news. Yes, what we did actually is we adopted Pitta Ubi. You understand there is alliance one, party to party meeting together. There is a collision whereby you collapse your party into another party. We didn't do any of that. We only adopted Pitta Ubi as our preferred presidential candidates. I'm going to the state election because one thing is, every politics is local. How do you adopt a party candidate and not adopt the party? The reason is we have some money holding on to our prejudices that is not, I can say it's a stranger to the party's structure. Even though he live in Lagos, he grew up in Lagos, he has no dealing with the party structure in Lagos. It's just like... The court party in Lagos is in crisis just as you are in all your state. Adibai, I want to come in here. Yes, Maureen, I've been listening to Honorable Aladejo quite with raptor tension. I wish to commend his grasp of things around him in Lagos and then, of course, the region. Sorry, close to Lagos, which is on your state. But the view, based on what he has said, that a court party has been in crisis everywhere and it's like, in order to avoid not becoming relevant anymore, they decided to align with his excellency, Gov. Nassongu, who obviously, as the incumbent, would be classified as a front-runner. So how would they respond to that? That it is in order to remain relevant that they have adopted the Gov. Nassongu. So they are not in any case doing the Gov. Nassongu because I don't see an electoral value, but maybe I'm wrong so he can clarify this. Is it because they're in crisis and they want relevance or what? Okay, thank you so much. One thing is, we're actually not in crisis. But if a particular issue of politics, there will always be some people trying to, like, manipulate the system and take advantage of things. If we are not relevant. You are in crisis. That's, it's obvious from all that you've said and from all that's playing out, you are in crisis. Does the court party still exist as a party? Yes, it does. The structure is still solid and we are just one united front. What is the future of this party? Even today we are very relevant and we are very valid. We are very active. These people are referring to our external bodies. Your party is adopting all the APC candidates. Is it across Lagos or across the country? No, it's across Lagos. And why we do that to answer the question, the question of Mr. Luki, is this, we are not doing this to, like, retain relevancy. We are still very relevant. We are still very active. But the risk of keeping quiet, like this thing I'm saying on TV now, has been, is not in the public because we are not known to, like, be causing wahala fighting and then causing fracas. We don't do that. We just went to the court straight. Now, the risk of allowing illegitimate people to go through the poll and get into public office, it's a disservice to the public. So our endorsement of Bawajidisongulu is not for relevance. We are very relevant. We are very active. We are doing this not to make the error of keeping quiet while people with lack of integrity get into public office. So we look around and look for candidates who can, who are very, who are synonymous with our party ideology, with our value system. And we look around the three major parties on the ballot and realize Gov. Bajidisongulu is the ideal candidate and we have shown capacity for that. Mr. Akatuba. Yes. How are you processing all that's playing out? Well, are you talking in respect of the endorsements? In respect of their endorsements and their alliances? Yes, I do not, alliances are not being formed. What we see here is endorsement. When a political party that is in an election began to assess its fortunes in an election and find out that it's not likely to get the vote to win the election, might take the option of endorsing the candidates that in their opinion is most likely to win or is best suited to win, to ensure that those they consider not good enough will not snatch the victory. And so it is, alliances are deeper and broader and involve all manners of agreement where different political parties set aside their differences and then come together in order to win more votes to form a government. But endorsement is necessarily not an alliance. It's actually a one party looking at the circumstances. Because if you look at all the parties that have endorsed the government, that they are on their own, not likely to make any significant impact in this election. But they have numbers of votes, pockets of supporters that if added together to the vote of the candidate or the party they have endorsed, victory is sureer in order to prevent others they think will not do well. Because if you look at what they said, they said that they were informed by the outstanding performance of the current government and that they would not want to take chances so that all the developmental project will be scuttled by the fact that the opposition or the most likely opposing candidate will be powered into power by sentiment. And so they are putting forces together to prevent that. So I think it's a positive development for the APC because the APC is confronting an election in which reasoning is not the subject. The electorate that, the set of electorate that they are confronted at the moment, they are like a mob without reasoning. They are only trying to do damage, not really about development. They are trying to retaliate for a hot day of the past. They are trying to show the previous election in the presidential. Some are going to vote against the APC because they consider or thought or think that the election was really the favour of the APC, the party they thought or they believe should not have won the election in their own calculation. And that's why I think that the parties have decided to forestall or to slow that mob movement, that movement. You said it's a positive development for the APC, but is it a positive development for democracy? Well, it is a positive development. It means that parties can work together when the push comes to show, when things get tougher. From what you see, there could even be higher levels of engagement in terms of proper alliances. And there are very many ways this can be done. But for now, this is a positive development. It means that all these other parties can sit on the table in the future with the APC and demand good government and also even demand some levels of involvement in the future government. But when parties align, I mean, we're talking about horse trading here. When they align, did they align because they care for the people, they care for development, they care for integrity, or they are just looking for positions and how to place their candidates and members in key positions. You're going to also answer that, but let Mr. Katuba take that first. Yes, first it is in the overriding interest. First is about the interest of the party. First, the reason is the party need to survive beyond the election. And by dozing a most likely candidate at the win, you secure opportunity for your party. Then ultimately is for the benefit of the people, if the party they so endorsed is a performing party, the candidate is a performer, and ultimately he delivers the good of the dividend of democracy. It means that they are initially selfish agenda have turned that good for the people. But in many climes, it's for the good of the people that motivates them because they want to make sure that the best candidates win. If you read what they have said here, they are saying that we reached the decision consequence upon our thorough analysis of all the good works and rapid development. Anyone who lives in Lagos, you can point to a few things that are visible, that are very iconic, that are going on. And therefore these parties are saying they want to sustain that. So in that respect. Why if they were that convinced, one would wonder... Yeah, Mr. Akataba, if they were that convinced, one would wonder why they contested in the first place, why they threw up a candidate against this candidate that's been doing so well. Please answer the question I asked him that I said you're going to respond to. Okay, I mean with me still. You said... No, no, I've gone to the comrade. Okay. Um, thanks for to Mr. Akataba, right? Yes. Actually, when we are sitting down to the side, we are like duty banned as a party to put forward candidates. Now, when you get to like, some things come up in your, for example, was the place of electoral activities and some new things come up, you have to sit down and analyze the details and the everything. Now, our choosing Governor Vagini Saoulu, one thing I want us to realize is, it's through a thought process. It wasn't the only person we thought we, we like consider, at least I reach out as a party, we reach out to Labour Party. We talk for the space of like one week. And what we see with them, they are not part. All right, I'm going to stop you there because I would not allow you to talk down another party. No, I'm not talking about another party. In favour of another party. But let me confirm, if comrade Mandos Yusuf of Kaduna State has been able to join us. Hello, comrade Yusuf. Okay, in the course of the program, we may be joined by comrade Mandos Yusuf, APC Kaduna State. But at this point, Adebayo, do you want to? Yes, please. Very interesting expose by Mr. Kattuba. So I have two questions, one for Honourable Oladiji and the other one for Mr. Kattuba. First, Honourable Oladiji. There are those who might wonder if your political partition still exists because from everything you have told us, anyone who follows or has followed the very clear explanation you have given and you're arriving at endorsing His Excellency, Governor Saul, they may be wondering why your political partition still existed. What would you say to them? And after you have like Kromeda Kattuba who said, it looks like there's a revenge voting. I would like him to clarify on that because every voter has a choice to make for whatever reason they are making that choice. So maybe to be good if Mr. Kattuba would also clarify what he meant by that. But Honourable Oladiji, can you tell us whether your partition still exists? Yes, our partition is existing and we still continue to exist because one thing is that we adopt, we and those, so it doesn't mean the partition is going to extinction. We'll still exist even beyond the election. Even though that now we are still making plans beyond the election. Post-election plans are on ground so we'll still continue to exist. All right, Mr. Kattuba. Yes, I'm with you. Adeba, you had asked your question. Yes, exactly, you had said that it would appear that this partition endorses His Excellency, the Governor because it is assumed that those who voted in the last election, they placed APC in Lagos appear to have been voting due to event data. It would be nice for you to clarify exactly what you meant. From the analysis that was conducted because it was a surprise. And when they looked at the data, the voting, you know, population and pattern, they saw that there is this ensarse movement, ensarse youth that feel aggrieved that the ensar's matter was poorly managed and that Bola and Metinubu, the flag bearer of the party at the national level and is suspected to be behind the entire matter. And then that the governor ordered the military to crack down and disperse the youth at the toolkit. They have not forgiven the governor and so such people are in the frame. Others feel that why should the APC present a Muslim-Muslim ticket and a lot of such people voted in reaction to that poor choice in their calculation? So there are these two sets of people, apart from the other sets that believe that the APC has been holding office for too long. You also hear another set saying that there are miscreants and urchins and area boys on the street terrorizing them in the marketplace. And so you can see that all of this is, the choices are like retaliatory in order to pay back for the use that each of these voters have suffered in the past. Others are making their choices purely on their own perceived or perceived or their own observation of a candidate as someone that is competent. And that's a very small number of the opposing votes. So this is the analysis. But in the governorship election, a lot of the answers you are still justling to pay back. And then you still have the majority of the voters of the Labour Party who in their opinion are angry that they were shortchanged. They are thinking that their mandate was not given to them, that they had won the election. Such are still waiting to repeat that protest vote by voting it. It's not as if they do not feel some development and good governance in Lagos, but they want to just make a statement that we are still in the numbers. So this is why you say this endorsement is a big boost. It weakens those who believe that the APC is finished. When they read and they see other parties making public declaration like this, it's continued to weaken the resolve to weaken the resolve of those who want to vote against them. And might even annoy them not to come to the polls. And so they are looking for these opportunities to show. But Mr. Akatiba, that's an interesting analysis you've given, but I'm wondering at the weight of these parties, how strong are these parties that have endorsed the APC? How strong are they enough to intimidate others? They are not individually very strong, but take note, the SDP has made some good hero. When I saw the SDP there, the SDP candidate seems to have won some liking. In the current elections, you find that the votes count and every vote is important. How many votes? It took about 9,000 votes for the Labour Party to defeat the APC in the presidential election. If you look at it again, if that number, if this endorsement, this endorsement might bring 20,000 votes because the votes now do count. And therefore the SDP, the YPP, they are called, they have pocket members and supporters and family members. So when you multiply that, it can become something and therefore they can outdo their fiercest opposition. So they say if there's no single vote, that is not important in this critical and highly contested elections. Indeed, every single vote counts. We're going to take a break right now and we'll come back to continue this discussion. I've had with me Mr. Theofilos Akatuba, media consultant, public affairs analyst. I also have Honourable Delia Oladiji, the Legal State Chairman of the Accord Party. These are some of the guests I have. We're expecting someone from Cardinal State, Comrade Mandos Yusuf, who is an APC member in Cardinal State to join us in the course of this program. I also have Mr. Adebayo Loaque, my virtual co-host with me. We'll take a break. We'll be right back. Stay with us. And it's the run-up. Welcome back to you. We just came back after a very interesting time out. I have as my guests Comrade Delia Oladiji. Is it Honourable or Comrade? It's Honourable. Honourable Delia Oladiji. He is the Legal State Chairman of the Accord Party. We also have Mr. Theofilos Akatuba, media consultant and public affairs analyst. And my co-host Adebayo Loaque. Welcome back to you. Before we went on that break, I was asking Mr. Akatuba, the strength of these parties, nine of them that supported, aligned with the APC and its candidate. How weighty are they enough to scare others? Are they weighty enough to scare others? Let me throw that to you. Okay, I'm talking about party strength. Well, you've mentioned it now that some nine parties, in those, or aligned with Babaji Desong Oulu, are called two different from their line parties. That tells a lot about our individual strengths as parties. Some parties gather together and form like a front and then nine of them in those Babaji Desong Oulu are called under a home volition. We stand apart and we stand differently, distinctly, and in those Babaji Desong Oulu. It tells a lot about that. We are not something of like a crowd movement or a crowd mindset. I want to talk about strength in legal states. Akatuba has been the third party in every election. So we have a weight. The ruling party and the other party, PDP, they know who Akatuba is and they know what Akatuba is capable and they know what our strength is like. So we are not just a fringe party. We are stronger than we are solid in legal states. So we have our strength and that's the strength we are bringing to be on the state's governorship election. And remember that our endorsement of Pitta Oubi make all our efforts to be amassed for Pitta Oubi in the presidential election. Now we've pulled that out and we are giving it to Governor Babaji Desong Oulu. So that will bring a lot of difference from what was obtained at the presidential election and what will be obtainable in the presidential election. You're very confident. Very, very. Why do you not have any candidate for the state House of Assembly elections? Okay, in the truth sense of it is we have candidates for all the state assembly. But if I'm to what I mentioned earlier, we have a compromised former national executive that wants to like sabotage us in Legos in knowing that we have been the only radical arm in Nigeria and all your states too. So they look to like check me to us and then drag us down. So that's why we went to court and that's why they're okay. You think you can go to court. They now took the ticket offers because actually tickets are only submitted by the national body. So they bring up some candidates that's working against us and then they used to like... Do you have candidates for the state? We have. I've mentioned even in the endorsement where the Governor Babaji Desong Oulu yesterday, I mentioned their names. They were there in the... How many across the local councils? Yes, across the state. What was the consensus? We have all. But you did say, if I understand correctly, you are endorsing the APC across board. Across board, yes. Meaning that even for the state Houses of Assembly, there is a cross board. APC should be voted. Yes. Not their court party. Yes. So what happens to the candidates you say you have? Yes, the reason is our legitimate candidates did not get on the I-NEC list. I think it's not peculiar to us. Eh, he has the same issue. He also gets a declarative judgment that I-NEC should take their candidates. I-NEC didn't. And I think ADC have the same issue too. So across the local councils in Lagos state, we didn't get anyone on the I-NEC list. It's shocking. None of your candidates came on the I-NEC list. Legitimate. All the illegitimate ones. Everybody you see are impostors. The division, the crisis in your party is beyond description. A House divided against itself cannot stop. They are strangers. They are not even a court member. I can say it. Adebayo, you want to come in here? Can I ask? Yes, please. Honourable, honourable, honourable. I was wondering, couldn't your party have suspended these people? These people creating problems for you. Are there no disciplinary measures provided for your constitution to deal with such people? Okay, there are rules and guidelines to dealing with members that are recastitant or misbehaving. But one thing is, in Lagos state, I think we suspended like two or three of them last year. But one thing about our party is we always love to like not cause rancor or fracas, or you can't see any news of a court fighting or causing fracas in the society. So we always go to court. But in Lagos state, we have actually suspended like three of them last year. We expel one and then suspended two. So that is ongoing. But the issue of this condition is that decision will always be made by the national body, not the state arm. And at the national body, the preferred as our present national chairman, in person of Reverend Isaac Adebayo Adeinyi, prefer to always like, let's go to court. Let God give you verdicts and that will be legitimate than we fighting our say because if we expel someone now, you can see go to place and said, you remain a party member. That was just happening in your city now. One endows a person and the other came out and say you didn't answer everything. So most of you just allow the court to give you verdicts and the verdict of the court will be standing. Like all these imposters now, we have a petition against them at the DSS office. They are being handled, but you will never see us fight them. You never see us cause rancor or anything else. No, we petition to the DSS and DSS is already infestigating them and they're handling the case. It doesn't look like you need to do a total overhaul in your accord party. See, I want to let something be clear. The party is still intact. These people are from outside. Like the person within our governorship candidate and ticket is Akim Dixin. He's known from the APC. He joined, he came into our court, I think, around April last year. The first person he came to is my person. We had a meeting, we give him our rules and our guidelines. And then he went out and then came from the back door. Because he knew with what I lay on the table, he wouldn't scale through because we have procedures. He, even normally, legitimately, conditionally, is not eligible to contest any election in Nigeria. His news are on the public domain. I even have a copy. I have it on my email. A copy of his was his conviction, criminal conviction in the district court of New Jersey. So with all these in the harm of the party, we are not just looking to sell our tickets to just anybody. So realizing our body language that these people know they won't scale me through, he went to the back door and then, when I say they are from outside, I'm saying this with every sense of conviction. They are not a court member. It wasn't a court member. Dixin isn't a court member. So that was it. The party is still intact. We are still same. We are solid. These people that came to lock down our tickets are from outside. All right. Let's hold it there. We'll take a break. We'll be back to continue with the program. Stay with us. Thank you for your time. Welcome back to the run up on Plus TV Africa. We continue with our discussion, as I told you earlier before, went on break. We have Honorable Dele Oladiji. He is the legacy chairman of the Accord party. We also have Mr. Theophilus Akatuba, media consultant and public affairs analyst as our guest. And also we have my virtual co-host, Ade Biolo. Okay. Hello, gentlemen. Hello, gentlemen. Good to be back. All right. So INEC has completed the BEVAS reconfiguration and has begun deployment of the independent national electoral commission's materials. We want to take a look at this and three days to the governorship elections. How comfortable are you? Especially when we had on Tuesday, as revealed to us by the minister of communication and digital economy, Issa Pantami, that INEC recorded more than 12 million cyber attacks on the 25th of February during the presidential elections. Does that bother you? Actually, it's a little, well-meaning Nigeria. It gives them some sense of concern. But I believe since INEC weathered through it, without us recording any negative effects to our electoral process, well, we are still very confident in the process INEC have on the ground. So we look forward to the election with high hope. Okay. Mr. Akatuba. Yes. How do you see this revelation that INEC recorded 12 million, more than 12 million cyber attacks? I'm not surprised, but I'm surprised at the number that the server and the INEC systems will be attempted by hackers should not surprise anyone. You know, elections are very important, very critical. It goes to the call of the health of a nation. If criminals take power, the nation is gone. And that's why many nations in the world have continually avoided electronic systems of voting. You know, in the US, ballot papers are still physical. They are mailed in, they are presented, and they are counted with digital machines. But the end is that there is a ballot paper. And so because of what the internet, the online, the risk, so I'm shocked at the number of times, but that attempt was made, that was why on the day of the election, while I was at the polling unit, and the presidential results were not going, I smile to myself that they would have seen some very magnificent threats and they've decided to slow down. Otherwise, the entire election could be stolen. It would have been more catastrophic than the fact that the procedure of uploading real time was not done at that time. For me, I am very shocked at the numbers, very, very shocked. Adebayo. Mr. Katuba, I share your sentiments, you know, in terms of the share size of the attempt. But some people might wonder why it's the minister of communications that is making the announcement and why not INEC? Because INEC is independent as it were, and INEC has its own ICT department, it has its own head of the ICT. Some people might wonder why is the minister who has to come out and not INEC itself saying so. Do you think that would be a legitimate question? Well, I believe it's about government managing information. If the INEC that is at the storm, it's in the middle of the storm that is being accused of manipulating and subverting his own process, is the one giving these SQs. People would say, rubbish, you are lying, we don't believe you. And so maybe they gave it in the mount of a most credible organization that manages all of these systems so that it has a weight of credibility. That is what I think. If this is, except it is not true, it's made up. But even if it's made up, it would make up 12 million attempts. I really find it amazing. However, Pantami is telling us maybe because it has the technical way with all to know the exact number of attempts. The INEC might not have the technical way with all. They might not know the depth, the extent. They might not know that there is an attempt. But who can give us the full detail? Pantami can give you a full call that took place while someone, maybe an organization that does phone telephony might not know in length of time the communication took place. So maybe because of the technical way with all to be able to give that information. And that was, I'm sure, it gave that information in passing in another event so that we don't fix it ourselves on the fact that it was hacking that caused it so that the confidence that we are building on the electoral system might be completely lost. Or those who are attempting to change tactics. I think there's a lot. This is a very huge security matter. And I do a lot of research and reading both local and international. You remember, even in the US, Russia was accused of interfering this because the cyber space is open. Both good people and bad people are pregnant. All right, before we go, your final word. Okay. My final word is that an election is coming up on the 18th. Take note that our election is still a manual process. All the technology that has been brought to embellish it and build competences are not the election. Therefore, political parties get qualified reliable agents for the elections are won and lost at the polling units. Thank you. That's very strong polling agents. We discussed that here. The polling agents are very, very important and must be loyal party members. Your final word before we go. Okay. Our final word is as we look forward to the forthcoming election on the 18th of March, I admonish all negotiations. Everybody with their PVC should go out and vote. We had seven million registered voters in legal state and the turnout in the last election was like a million plus. We are looking at having like six million voters this time. Let's come out. Let's show our imputes in this electoral process. So go out, vote and vote, relax our sub-in-governor. Thank you. Honourable Delia Oladiji, a court party legal state chairman has been one of our guests. Thank you for being here and sharing with us all that's happening in your party. We do hope that you're able to resolve it. I'm excited to see young people in the political space. So I'm excited to meet you. Comrade, we couldn't have Comrade Mandus Yusuf as we had planned to. He was supposed to have joined us from Cardinal State, a member of the APC in Cardinal State. Perhaps we'll have him tomorrow. Mr. Theofilos Akatuba, media consultant and public affairs analyst, also joined us as a guest. Mr. Akatuba, thank you so much for your time and insight. And thank you too for having me. And my virtual co-hosts, Adebayo Loaike, thank you so much for your time. Always a pleasure, Maureen. I am Maureen Menonwe-Zigui. Thank you for watching. Goodbye.