 Are you ready? Yeah. I don't know what points. Welcome back to Spoonsville. Hi. Hello. Today on the channel we're covering Mother. And no, not Mother. Mother. Not how I met Yamuta. Mother. The 2009 Bong Joon Ho drama mystery classic. Second time for me seeing it. First time for me. And what do you think? I don't know how to feel. Which I think is kind of good. It's a good thing honestly. It is a really good thing. I really do like, I mean I don't watch a lot of murder mystery movies. But I felt like it was very, very cool concept. Very interesting how they were done. It was also, I found like the murder itself. There's obviously some intrigue to it. And some trying to put the pieces together. You know, like the one character is like, think about it. Why was she on the roof? It seemed like they wanted people to see it. That was like a bit of the, trying to figure out what was the motive. Why would they do things? But a lot of it was actually kind of focusing more on the relationships between the mother and the son. The son and the friend that kind of uses him. But he's also not, you know, at one point the mother thinks he was the one that did it. And actually he ends up trying to help, the friend tries to help the mother. So I find they focus more on actually the relationships and the people. More than the actual murder itself, which I like because the murder is unique enough and interesting. But I like that it actually isn't really the main focus. Yeah. And that is exactly why I struggled so much with, with how to feel about it. Because the focus, you know, the movie itself develops quite slowly, I would say. But I think that's really to give to the backdrop against which the movie takes place, as well as to give to the characters. Yeah. And because he does that so beautifully, you then, for me at the end, I, it was really hard to, to say whether or not I, how I felt about the mother, you know, because it turns, obviously like it turns out that, that dojo. Her son did actually murder the girl. And the whole time the mother is trying to prove his innocence, finds out that it was him and then decides to kill the witness, the key witness. Yeah. Before it gets, you know, then the, it's in it. Because the key witness was going to tell the police that, you know, to confirm that, yes, indeed the dojo was the murderer. Yeah. And then she decides to murder him. Yeah. I remember you, you're already like, well, I already like this because it's such a unique way to start a movie like this where she's dancing in the field slowly and she starts to get, and the music is so cool. It's almost like a flamenco kind of Spanish style guitar, but it fits so well. And it's, it's, it's interesting. Really, I think the main thing that I love to think about with that movie is the mother, which makes sense. It's called mother. It's very interesting because especially watching it now, I realized just how much of an unhealthy relationship obviously she has with the son, but it's because like she said, it's like, it's all she has, right? It's like they're, they're living in extreme circumstance, extreme poverty. And she has also this guilt of at one point trying to murder them. Like poison both of themselves because she just couldn't really afford to take care of either of them. So she has all this guilt of like this, the one person that she cares about, she also tried to murder at one point when she was a kid. And, you know, she obviously has some moral compass there where she generally doesn't, you know, she wants to find the perpetrator of this crime, right? But then is unable to actually then believe or accept that her son was the one that did it. Yeah, it's definitely really tough for me to talk about this movie. Yeah. I think it's way smarter than I am. Just things like how I, even after the mother, what, like even after I find out that the mother tried to kill Dojoon, the son. Yeah. I still empathize with her. I still feel like, because she doesn't say that she did it because they were poor or anything. We just assume that because Bong Joon-ho sets the scene up so well. Like the scene, the backdrop is set up in a way where these people's socio-economic status is just so, I mean, they literally have nothing. Yeah. And on top of that, he struggles mentally. Exactly. So it's like there's no dad. Yeah. It's just her. He's getting taken advantage of by people and she can't really do anything about it. Left, right, and center. Yeah. And you see it too, you know. I think the final, it was also just another kick in the teeth is getting hit and run by people way better off than them. Exactly. And it's like we already have nothing and then, you know. This movie is just so tough. Yeah. I guess why I struggled a lot to figure out how to feel about the mother because she knows that her son killed someone. Then she goes and kills the person who knows for a fact that the son killed someone. Just, if you told me that, if you told me that kind of story, I'd be like, that woman is awful. Right. You know. But then when you watch the movie, you can't just so easily condemn her. You just can't so easily. You can't because her life is brutal. Yeah. If you have, if you come from a certain class, I guess you are, you have that internalized sense of inferiority. You accept it and you interact with people that way. Right. And you easily accept negative treatment, which is what we saw throughout the movie with the mother and the son. For me, that really made me sad the whole time. From the very beginning, I felt so ... Yeah. She has on her face the whole movie. The whole movie. Yeah. And so it's so hard for me to ... She did a great job. She's a beautiful, wonderful actress. Incredible, incredible actress. You always get such good actors. Yeah. Yeah. Just, I don't know. Well, that's why I liked it so much because it's one of those movies that afterwards you're just ... What? You know, I don't know how to feel. I don't know how to ... But like you said, because there were points when I'm watching it and I was like, I was feeling a little worried because I was finding it a bit of a slow buildup and I was worried not for myself because I watched it already and I really liked it. But I was like, for you, I'd really been recommending this movie. Yeah. And I'm like, oh, maybe it's not quite as good as I remember. Maybe you won't like it. But the thing is with those movies is that all the scenes in my mind are still, there's a point to them. Directors like Bong Joon-ho, other directors like him where they, you know, if you feel like, you know, this is kind of, there's reasons, you know, like this is not something that they slap dash together and just like, there are reasons for all these things to be there, you know. And yeah, I was kind of worried. I felt like, oh no, I might not like this because it was just so slow to build up. But I really get why it was important to do that. I felt like this is maybe, maybe that he's taking too long, but it's why I'm so conflicted at the end of it. For me, the thing of the movie is feel bad for everyone in this movie. I feel bad for the cops too because they're kind of realized that this stuff happens all the time. The guy's like, I'd love to help you out because the mother has been around. She's probably seen a lot of these people grow up as they grow into their profession. And so she knows everyone and she's like, come on, it's me, like help me out. And they're like, you know what I'm saying? Tomorrow I have to drive up to this mountain. There's other things I got to do. She's like, I get it, you're busy, but you know. So I mean, if that's what you mean, where I think it's just, it's a very complex movie. That's a lot to take in because everything, all the characters are very fleshed out, are very real people. Yeah, it was really tough. There's like a lot of murder mysteries. Again, like the focus is the murder. And so they can be a lot of side characters. Yeah, it can be a lot of side character. Even if it's like there's twists and who you thought was the person was not actually the person that did it. It can still be a complex murder, but a lot of say the side cop characters or something, or just kind of, you don't get anything else besides them trying to figure out the murder. Where like every character in this movie feels like they are struggling with things or like they're conflicted in some way or you know. Everything is so hard. No one cares about you. Even the lawyer that she hires doesn't take her seriously or her case seriously. And everything is just all about money. Even the French dojo who ultimately decides to help her find the murderer says, well, initially she had thought that he'd done it. And then, and he was like, well, I feel so betrayed. You can basically say sorry with 5,000 bucks. So everything is just so, it's just money, money, money. And I felt like there was just so much exploitation and it was always directed at people who struggled the most. But God, it's such a tough movie to analyze. I don't know, I made a couple of notes. I definitely highly, highly recommend it. And I encourage you to hang in there. And yeah, I would say if there's any downside it's that, but I really can't even say that it being slow at the beginning is like a flaw in the movie. It's kind of needed. It's just sometimes, especially if you come from watching a movie that's a little faster paced, it feels like, is this too slow? But it's a different kind of movie a lot of the time, right? So yeah, I give it a 10, honestly, in terms of murder mysteries that I've seen. It's like, and it just, and just movies, like acting, everything about it, the music. Every time when I first heard that, I was like, I wanted to learn it. It was one of those things where I'm like, I want to just start playing that because it's so, so interesting. And it's hard not to keep thinking about it. All different things about it, all, you know, different parts of it. So yeah. Yeah, I'll definitely be thinking much more about it. Yeah, she was just, I think, extremely burdened. And in the kind of world that she lives in where she's exploited so much by people always using her in different ways. I think having Dojoon was that one thing that gave her a sense of validity in her life. And because of that, I struggled to say, to commit to feeling that she's a horrible person. Oh, I feel like I need to watch it again. Yeah, it's just so satisfying. Yeah. Bong Joon-ho, you've done it again. I finally got someone else to watch. Watch it. Yeah, watch it. With the subtitles. Yes. Yeah. Okay, so 10 out of 10. Rep tomatoes. Yes, for Mother. Yeah. Bong Joon-ho. Yeah, I want to watch the rest of them. We'll see if we watch the others. But that's my point. It's like, even if the host, it's this horror movie, but you know it's more than just a horror movie. As all those movies are more than just their genre. Yeah, this man. Yeah. I want to know what happened to his brain. Yeah. He's one of the best. One of the greats. It was written by him and another person, which I feel like I would like to give credit to too. Because this was such a beautiful movie. Yeah. Mother Bong Joon-ho. We'll figure it out. Anyway, we'll put it in the description. Yeah. Okay. Good night. I mean, goodbye. Bye, folks.