 You took us into the slo-go so can you explain what it is to our audience? The slo-go is a quote that we say to start and end every Greyhaven's meeting and it's basically saying that you're okay to be who you are whenever. Yay! Does anybody else have anything you want to say about the slo-go? And it's called the slo-go and the reason why is a secret that only we know. Okay, so hi everybody! So as you know we're recording this for Longmont Public Media so I just want to say that we are Greyhaven's YA, Greyhaven's young adult and these are some of our participants and a graduate too and some upcoming graduates who have been doing philosophy with us, some for a short time and some for as long as six years. But these are young people who come together every Saturday to talk about the big ideas of philosophy. But we're also a bunch of geeks and nerds and that's really important to us. So today we've been asked to really be part of recorded history and talk about our experiences of what is going on right now. So the first, the question I want to start with is what has life been like for you and how has it changed since you first heard of coronavirus or COVID-19? For me personally it actually hasn't been that different like this is what my spring break would have been anyway staying inside and not going anywhere because I'm part of a middle-class family that can easily go and get groceries and that would probably be would be able to afford any medical care if necessary. That's a really good point that it's different for people who have different who live in different socioeconomic levels who are more or less privileged. Louise it looks like you wanted to say something. It's been kind of hard because I'm an extroverted person and it's been hard to not be able to like see all my friends because I love to hang out with them and like I've only been able to be with my family and I love them but I really want to see my friends too. Yeah. Can I speak? Yes of course. Yes. So like um I have like the opposite thing with the Louise like I'm an introvert so I'm kind of just like going on my day-to-day life is just like a weekend every day and it's kind of interesting because I can just like read books, watch movies, paint and like I don't have to talk to people. I get both of those actually really while I relate to the introvert thing. What about everybody else? For me I've had a few events cancelled that have been really like really exciting parts of my life that now I don't get to participate in. Robotics was probably the biggest one but also a college visit. So that sort of stuff has been really really tough emotionally. Oh oh my gosh I can imagine. Wow has anybody else said that? I know Peter this is your senior year. Yeah like um at the same time with the senior year like at this point we don't even really know what's cancelled like if graduation will happen who knows that sort of thing. Also like for me specifically um I'm turning 18 soon and I'm working on finishing my Eagle Scout and you know everything closed. So I had to go through the whole process of getting an extension for that because like I can't exactly do like my project or anything right now. So it's just everything to plan everything just don't make it work in time. You know I want to say that all these things are really big and they all have emotional weight to them but I also want to say that it's okay to complain about little things and it's okay to complain period because we're all adjusting and like something that might be really big to me like the play-doh the philosophy learning and teaching organization conference was cancelled and I was very excited to go to that and that I was asked to facilitate a lunch for people who were new to philosophy for children and communities um so that's really big for me but like for somebody else I might be like oh it's just another conference like what why do you care about that so I think everything is we're all having different responses. What do you think? Yeah yeah so any other thoughts just on how life feels different now? I know that I had to um I had to um I'm trying to figure out how to do my silver ward project because it was supposed to be on the April 8th start so um it's it's like very difficult to replan everything when you already had it like we planned it out. Yes uh yeah I think all of these plans changing are it's huge and Courtney just asked if she could go next so thank you Louise. Um this has been really hard for me because I've had to move back out of my dorm early and that was a really stressful event like my roommate she's from out of state so she had to move home early and we had a lot of stuff planned that we're not going to be able to do now so that's kind of hard and it's just been like all of my classes being moved online it's like a college workload that was okay in person is now twice as hard online because I'm taking five classes in a lab online so it's really been an overwhelming experience. Oh it seems like they should take it easier on you because it's already overwhelming and then Clara had something to say to you. Yeah um for me something I've found really difficult and I'm sure a lot of people have is that suddenly all of these things I've been looking forward to are cancelled and that's like put me in distress I guess um and then I'm not able to see the people I would normally turn to to look for help and that's been really difficult. That sounds really difficult yeah has anybody else found that like have you found like that you're losing your support system? Personally most of like a lot of my friends have apps like this cord where we can message each other and call but it's it's really not the same as being able to give someone a hug. Yeah how do you think this is gonna oh sorry Sawyer? I feel like that's kind of like the opposite for me sort of because uh for some reason I'd say the majority of my friends live in Washington right now and I get to actually talk to them like almost every day now that they can't go anywhere and I can't go anywhere so it's pretty epic. Oh that's okay I'm glad you're here we're talking about how life has changed since we first heard about COVID-19 and what it's like for you and I I really want to um underscore what Sawyer said about there being some silver linings like we've been doing we had an online philosophy discussion last night and it was so fun and some people were in their PJs and I had on pajama pants but nobody could tell and like there are people who we've never met before from like different places and and that was nice but um he can he can says he can you want to say it out loud? Oh yeah can I can you guys hear me? Yeah yeah but yeah I've been I've been not really since I don't have to go anywhere or do a whole lot like I don't have to actually go into school and my school hasn't started yet uh it's given me a lot of time to do things that I don't normally get to do and so that's been nice. Are you working on the second draft of your novel? Uh kind of yeah I've also been working on like five other things so I kind of need to get back on track a bit. That's awesome and Malia you said you've been getting a lot of writing done too. Yeah that's literally all I've been doing with my time I'm on a call with the girl I'm writing um a story with like like five hours a day like just like writing and talking. That's wonderful do you feel like there are things that you are able to do and skills you're able to develop to develop and things you're able to learn that you wouldn't if you were in I mean I know it's spring break but let's imagine that this keeps going and um do you feel like and I know some of you are looking at doing classes on Google hangouts that we're doing right now and Zoom and other platforms but let's just say like school is not going to take up as much as your time of your time. Do you feel like you would actually be able there are ways in which you would be able to learn things that you couldn't learn in school or that it would be an advantage to you to have less time in school? Yeah yeah I would say for for me specifically I'm a senior it's the second quarter of my last semester at high school I've almost learned everything I'm going to learn in high school but at this point it's like just get it done and then it's it's there's so many other things I would rather spend all day doing like some of it's actually educational some of it is just not being in school um I could be using that time to be more productive and actually like do things that aren't sitting in a classroom and learning the same of the different kinds. And I do want to ask the question to bias people against the traditional schooling because I'm going to ask the opposite in a minute um like what do you miss about school but my question right now is what makes something educational? To me you got a little background noise going on so um yeah if you could like you can meet yourself when there's background noise but then we want to hear from you too of course and I'm glad you're here. Yeah like just my throat is just my throat just hurts so I was getting something to help okay calm down. I'm sorry and that's totally okay I'm glad you're here and it's fun. I'm still trying to figure out thank you I'm trying to like figure out the kink still I'm trying to figure out how this all works. Yeah you know what we should have had a practice session but when we if we do some zoom meetings we'll do a practice session um so we can all like play with it and with zoom if your computer allows you I have to get get a I have to bring the green screen um into my home office if I want to do it but you can have like really fun backgrounds like Hogwarts and interface and Max Headroom is one that I saw that's really cool but okay so what makes something educational? Like Peter you were saying like there's some things that are just not being in school and some things that are actually educational and I just want to like I it sounds like an obvious question but I think it's not. I think like um educational things are like uh something that's gonna help you either like do better in like your own school or like uh go beyond or just like advance like what you are already doing in school I guess. So it's something that's going to help you in school and like it has like a practical is that sound right? Yeah like a practical application. Yeah like also like any kind of learning I guess because you could like um be like reading I mean like you could like be reading about like some sort of like science that's not part of like your curriculum at school but it's still educational because you're still learning. When you're learning and yeah I I mean if that's learned it sounds like such an obvious question like the answer would be well something that you that teaches you where you learn but it it strikes me that there's more to it to than that and you added more actually after when you were speaking I'm not saying that you gave a simplistic answer at all but Louise has more to say. I was going to say that um something that's educational it is when you're learning but also it's it's when you're enjoying it because if you're learning something that you absolutely hate and you just don't want to be there like sometimes you just can't absorb it because it's just not like meant for you. Yeah yeah and Deakin had a really good question. Wait do you want me to go? Yes I do. I was just curious as to like what's the difference between say like learning something and like being like educated because I mean I know that they're very similar but like on one hand like you could be researching something that you know maybe will be useful like for like a career or something like that or but on the other hand you could just be like looking up just some random facts and things like that and are they both equally as important or is one of them learning and one of them really being educated like what's the difference between those two scenarios? That's a great question. I think that's a good point because when you think about it if you think of someone educated you're thinking of like college professors and that sort of thing like a plumber has a like complex field that they know a lot more about from the college professor so are they equally educated or do they know more about a different and Audrey has something to add. Yeah do you want me to read it out loud? Yeah sure. Hold on I forgot like what I typed. You could like be um reading like some pointless Wikipedia article but like if it doesn't help you in life it's not like going to get you anywhere then it's not really educational. So and Deacon was saying the plumbers are highly intelligent and efficient beings oh I'm sorry and like if you're like researching it could be like to one person it could be like random facts but to you if you're like interested in a career based on let's say like the psychological impacts of world war two and yeah that would be educational for you. Okay that's different for everyone. Yeah other thoughts? Um I think that being educated is when someone is like explaining something or learning is more on the listener's part. I will say more. So like a teacher educates their students but the students don't have technically could not be learning they could just be twirling their thumbs in the chairs or they could or you could be on line looking up random stuff and learning but not like being educated by the site like you just like learning stuff by actually doing it I guess. Education is guided learning well education is guidance that could be learning and learning is actually understanding. Yeah I think that's a good way. I'm sorry my screen froze so I didn't hear the last part of what you said. I'm sorry you don't have to repeat it it's okay because I think it's still recorded. I'm only I see your question but I just want to say one I want to clarify a little bit from what Xander and Miriam were saying so is it like learning I'm getting from you learning is like a personal action like you have to do it yourself is that what you're saying? I mean I wouldn't say you you have to I mean you have to actually be paying attention and listening to kind of learn learn or you can be learning how to I don't know like muscle memory kind of stuff as well but you know you kind of have to be working for it as well. There's a little bit of responsibility on the part of the learner like it's not yeah yeah yeah yeah like there's a lot of people that are like they don't do well in school because they don't try so they're not learning anything and they can't really get that far through school. Actually I know a little something different because some people have trouble just sitting still and learning like they can't get really catch it if they're just sitting there like me if I'm not moving around I can't really listen very well because I'm a synthetic learner and so yeah I get like different learning types too I was just like talking about like people who voluntarily don't listen and then Malia you had something it was more just a clarifying question on what Miriam was saying. Oh go ahead. It was just like things like random Wikipedia pages right going back to that. Is it only educational if it's beneficial to you and can it still be educational even if it doesn't really like help you later on? I think that's a great question. What do you all think? I think that kind of goes to a lot of people always say how in the world you learn a whole bunch of things you'll never use again like another quadratic equation but it's like I would still say learning it is educational but people learn a lot of things that will never be used again. Generally considered educational like if you get a whole degree in like history or something you learn a lot of things where if you don't end up being a professor are absolutely useless in your daily life. Clara? I feel like learning anything at all is probably like like factual stuff like not being indoctrinated like I don't know how to explain it but like learning anything's going to help you in the future because just by learning or like strengthening your mind I think and like teaching yourself how to learn. So I feel like all learning could be considered education if you're looking at it from that perspective. I think that's a great point and that I mean what we do is teaching people how to think just by thinking together and then I think Miriam and then Mina. One of the other things that teachers at my school will say when kids ask why do we have to learn this is because they're also learning how to follow through on a task that they don't necessarily want to do because that's something that you have to do a lot in life and learning how to make the best of the situation even if you know it's beneficial and you don't like it. Yeah yeah and that's almost that's sort of like social emotional learning and then was it Mina? Yes. So what I was thinking was like a lot of my a lot of the kids at my classes asked I didn't have to learn this and what I've learned from my mom she's also been a teacher for a while but I think it's because it's helping us learn how to be functional in society so that we can figure out like on a daily basis how much money we have so we can go to store and buy ourselves what we need things like that. Yes and then Malia? In some ways it's like learning how to learn something when teachers tell us like oh it's just gonna help you later on or something they won't exactly give us a direct explanation of why we're learning something but it's also like they're teaching us how to learn something so we can learn anything pretty much that we like want to. Yeah yeah and Robin it sounds like you had something that you wanted to throw in there. Well sometimes I'm just participating in the chat but I was just saying yeah it's like the whole critical thinking like what we do here is teach you more about how to think because even just maybe philosophy doesn't seem useful in like your everyday life but we've learned that it is because you're seeing how to think more critically think bigger so that's all I wanted to say. Yeah and we're always talking about the four C's I know Peter and Deacon you went to the facilitator training so you've heard this being and you've all heard it actually so being critical giving good reasons for what you think and being willing to have your thinking challenge being creative so thinking of new possibilities combining ideas in different ways all those things that you're awesome at being caring so caring enough to hear what somebody says and make sure that everybody's getting to speak and they're having a good experience and caring enough to challenge their thinking when it needs to be challenged but do it in a sensitive way and collaborative which is just like you know we think better when we think together Has anybody had the experience of like figuring something out? I'm going to feel I probably set myself up with this question but like thinking of thinking of things in a new way or something that you might not have thought of if you were thinking about yourself when you're thinking with other people please don't say no. I mean it definitely happened with me in some of my college classes where like you get a group of people together and you don't really know what you're doing but everybody brings a different idea together that ties everything together and allows you to think about things in a way you hadn't considered before especially like when you're learning another language or something just having an outside perspective can help you grasp the concept easier than others. Yeah I would say together so what's what we do at most gray havers meetings because none of the stuff we talk about any one individual will come up with by themselves just sitting at the firehouse just like talking to themselves but when we're all together if someone's idea will build on someone else's which will then build on someone else's so I really think just like the discussions we normally have are basically joint thinking. I feel bad I feel like I asked for a plug or a testimony but thank you. Deacon did you have something? Oh no I was just typing in the chat. Oh okay you're so good at multitasking young people. I actually had another question that kind of ties to this is a lot of kids say that they really think that this one teacher is bad when it's really because they don't get the material and I wondered why do we think that if we don't get the material automatically the teacher is bad. What do you think? It's not necessarily that the teacher is bad it's like just like their style of teaching is not like what's best for you personally. It might work for others and it might work for the majority of people but it might not just work for you. Yeah so it's kind of up to you to like take that next step and like figure out how can I make sure that I'm learning what I need to learn. Yeah so is it always up to you though and I know Deacon had something in the Miriam. Oh you're just gonna say that it really when it comes to like talking about whether or not a teacher is necessarily bad. I feel like there's a lot of different variables that go into that because I feel like a bad teacher is more a teacher who isn't willing to I guess learn a little bit from their students. I mean because I have had like some teachers that were I mean I wasn't too interested in their material but I wanted to that they were bad teachers like they taught the material the best they could I just wasn't interested in it or I couldn't really work and there are other teachers who would not change up material that was like antiquated or not really working with the students just because it was the old way of doing it and they didn't really want to put in the effort to change that and I feel like that would be more of a bad teacher than just a teacher who I don't understand the material for this or that. Yeah Miriam. Yeah so this year our calculus teacher went on maternity leave and we had a long term sub and the difference between kids shifting blame from being able to not learn content to an actually bad teacher is when you can tell that the whole class or like significant portions of the class are suffering because significant portions most of the calculus class had no idea what was going on. Wow yeah I think that's a good measurement. I agree with that because I've had like a lot of classes where like kids are like saying oh I don't like the teacher I don't ever get what's going on and then there's me who has no problem with it. Yeah yeah and then these are all really good points and I like the way they're building on each other also I would really like one of those brownies I wish you could pass it to me too. That looks so good so I think it was Sander and then was it Louise. Louise okay. Okay so if you have a teacher that actively makes you dislike the subject and that's kind of when you know that they're like a really bad teacher whereas in a teacher that doesn't like excite you on the concept is not a good teacher whereas a teacher that is like makes you actively exciting is really ready to like knows all the subjects and is ready to you know teach you about that because he's excited to teach you about that kind of stuff then that's kind of like a good teacher. Yeah and Louise. So I was going to say that sometimes there are just those classes where you might be like oh I don't like the teacher even if they're a good teacher that it might not be something that like you can work with but sometimes teachers just aren't like are bad teachers because they I've had a teacher I have a teacher right now who doesn't care about what the students think really she only she just like just then teaches the way she wants to teach so it can be like really hard if the teacher really trying to care for what the students actually think and that's kind of what makes a teacher a teacher. It sounds like a lot of you are saying that what makes a teacher an actual a teacher I like that that's what makes a teacher a teacher like somebody who actually teaches is that they're responsive to you and I was just building on something that Audrey said what do you do when the whole class is struggling it's not just like making sure that you're meeting the needs of the kids who are falling behind or the class as a whole that like even the kids who like are or the students the young adults who are are getting it and they're bored or and it's what do you think and I know we have lots of other things to talk about but like what do you think school should be like and do you think that this experience of having to adapt to social distancing is going to change school or any other part of your life really quite frankly what I feel is that a lot of kids at my school bugging like head but other quite frankly a lot and after social distancing some people are going to be like way too cautious maybe like and sometimes like especially this is kind of hard on me because I'm a very social person and so I go back to school bit but what's happening so I'm like a little with the light yeah yeah oh um so peter deacon and then you can I oh sorry was it directly on that um um no you can wait and thank you Audrey Peter um just a point I want to say it's it's how often school or it can it'll be designed for average students or like issues with the public or time and a student who gets it instantly or um figure it or just get it and then be bored for the rest of the time but I think it's just an important balancing act of like you don't want to segregate the kids because you have a whole bunch of people who think they're super white and a whole bunch of people who think they're dumb because they're in certain classes or whatever so I think it's actually a balancing act of making sure everyone has the material without making anyone like about steak would be yeah yeah deacon I agree with peter's concept I remember that when I was in middle school necessarily in high school but it was more of a thing in middle school back when I was in like a traditional schooling environment there was definitely a lot of separation between students who were let's say in the upper level to the class and students who were not in the upper levels of the class I remember that certain kids would get really kind of smarmy about the fact that they were like oh we're in a higher math level than you are and they sell it that made them like oh they're gonna go cure cancer and I'm like they're not gonna cure cancer they know how to do math better than I do like it doesn't mean anything like sure they're good then but it doesn't mean that there's somehow a superior person to someone who maybe isn't as good as math but is good as something else and I feel like the school environment should be more important for all types of learners should be less focused on okay let's just boost these kinds of kids and leave the other kids in the dust you know as somebody who's been an adult for a long time and out of school for a while I can I can really say that like it's not necessarily a predictor like just because you're good at math doesn't mean that you're going to do this wonderful things in life there's so much more to being a person so I think it was Audrey and then Bella and then okay so like I think that with like the social distancing distancing and like everybody like doing school from home it's like I think it's gonna be a lot harder for kids to mess around in class so there's like a possibility that like some of them might do better but at the same time you also have like that lack of connection like between like face-to-face between like teacher and student between like students and other students so it's oh for like others it might be harder yeah there's pros and cons it sounds like and depending on who you are yeah okay Bella oh did you get to finish Bella I almost kind of disagree because a lot of what's happening is school is moving to online learning so that we can keep up with our classes and still get the content online learning I know for me personally it doesn't work as well and for a lot of others it doesn't work and as a senior keeping up motivation during the second semester has already been hard like getting to classes on time especially keeping up with work that's all going to get a lot harder because there's no actual physical like requirements so even though they're having the online classes at the same time it's a lot easier for me to just sleep in and not show up and do the work sometime later and I want to point out that you were saying this as one of the most motivated human beings I have ever met so this is you saying this and that's significant yeah okay I'm totally losing track of who's next for me and then for me and then for you okay sorry I don't okay I don't know you guys pick uh I mean I'm gonna go off of Bella um I actually agree with Bella because like having to not physically go to class was something that like I was motivated more going to class physically because like my professors would take attendance and stuff so and they were being classwork whereas now that it's online all my professors have been super like we don't know what's going on we're just gonna make everything do and like Sunday night so just do it at your own pace and while that's nice for some classes it's harder for others because it I can't find the motivation to like be bothered to do something at that moment when I could go do something else so it's been harder for me like coming back home and doing stuff than staying at school get stuff done yeah yeah Mina actually I agree with actually because mainly I feel that doing it at my own pace works better because at school if I don't do it at my own pace like I'm able to do it at my own pace which is nice but when I was in elementary school it was kind of more stricter on like deadlines because like a lot of my teachers had the deadline like they're at elementary school that didn't so I was at my own pace and so I just got way more about projects or little things from other projects yeah this is so interesting to me and I just love all your insights um and Malia just oh we can hear you typing Malia what did you have to add um I was just thinking like with all of the like when to do work and when to get assignments in and what to do with all the free time I think it's really helping everyone time management time management skills and if you are generally a like procrastinator like if you always like put things off and stuff I think it's really helping like you realize like oh look I do not normally I don't have very good time management skills I need to work on this you know it's like something I struggle with oh me too so I can give you an insight and then um you can I want to hear what you've been typing oh I was just saying that hearing a lot of people talk and having been in a school environment for about maybe three years where the pace has definitely been very student set like there's been a lot of like keep going at your own pace I feel like the problem is more that there's a lot of college professors teachers that are not used to giving people work at their own pace and they're used to having their own sense I'm just saying like what Courtney was like oh well we're just gonna make everything on Sunday and do it when you can and there's not really a good system because there has to be some sort of deadline system in place even if the students can do it at their own pace it shouldn't just be like okay just do everything and we'll look at it at a certain point just because they're not used to doing it with this this kind of degraded structure I'm sorry I know I think that's great and I like the term like degraded structure because it sounds like what a lot of you are talking about is how well you function with structure and or with with more or less structure so I think it was Courtney and then Audrey that right okay yeah I would definitely agree with Deakin I mean I had like a set schedule when I was at school but that immediately got disrupted when things got shifted around so I think it's not more of like a time management issue for trying to figure out when to do things it's just that my schedule that I had been using is just thrown out a window pretty much and I have to make a new schedule to try and like get stuff done and I think that's the hardest part is trying to find a new schedule while everybody else is also trying to make a schedule for things so everything's like up in the air right now yeah yes Audrey um I think like there's a lot of people who um aren't probably not going to do quite as well with online schooling because of that dead because of those like uh lack of like uh set deadlines but at the same time there's going to be some people who it will work better for them for example I know like um there's like uh somebody who went like homeschooled like last year I think I can't remember who but it was like somebody at my school and she like finished um like um the same course that like we were in like months earlier in the year because it was self more self-cased about the same time it won't work for everybody I mean I just keep hearing that over and over again I think that's a really important point like it's the same thing doesn't work for everybody I have another question that I'd like to ask but I want to make sure oh Bella did you have something no oh okay I just want to make sure um um if anybody has anything else to add it looks like Deacon did you have something oh Peter no no it's awesome I'll take a joke about how Deacon just read out I missed you all so much I think so what's going to happen we're just laughing yeah Peter made a joke about you running out but it's okay wait what did he say I don't know Peter what'd you say Peter and Deacon I just want to point out for people who are watching this are very very good friends yeah there's no malice here um but the the question I want to ask is a two-part question one is um is school the most important thing right now or in life and also what what do you think that is what do you think is society's responsibility right now to people your age I kind of feel that school now oh and Mina and then Peter and then Miriam so I kind of feel like it's in the middle because like for one my sister's school they said she she can do the work but she doesn't exactly have to if she feels that like like my sister's school said that it's more important to feel safe and mentally prepared for second grade than it is to do the work whether my school is telling us we have to do it just at our own pace so it's kind of straight down the middle depending on how the school feels or how the school district thinks of the importance and how do you feel though you said it's in the middle of your priorities because I feel that the education is very important because then I can be more prepared for seventh grade but the same time I feel it's also important to feel safe and comfortable and just have some rest time I agree yeah that's I can just say that's my experience so is Peter Miriam Louise Audrey is that right yeah okay okay um my point was just you were saying society's responsibility to young people teenagers right now and I think you know school you should at least probably stay on top of it might not be as in depth as usual because there's other concerns to worry about and I think one of the big things for adults is to basically just set a good example for young people right now because like if one of your parents was to go out to a party or whatever they're not showing you to like think about other people they're just saying they're representing to just do what you want to do well for young people it's important to see that when there is a crisis like this they need to think about other people yeah that is something I that is something I think might be a silver lining too is that people are learning more of that kind of how important other people are so it was Peter Miriam I've already done okay yeah so I think one of the responsibilities that society have right now is to make sure that the systems we have in place don't collapse that things like the school system don't get too off track because students aren't being able to learn as rapidly or as in depth as they can that's very good yeah tell Louise Audrey Zander I think I got it right really that like everybody gets the education you need but cool isn't the most important thing in life it's important very important to be educated but it's also really important to be able to do the things that you enjoy and be able to progress on things outside of school that don't have to do with education what are some of the things um like if you play an instrument being able to practice your instrument audition for groups outside of school if you are like a really good artist and you want to practice your art and um like put it in those things like that and those things aren't educational or I think those things are educational are educational but I'm at like school I get it I get it okay and Zander no you you miss me Audrey I'm sorry Audrey I'm feeling I just keep skipping over you an interrupting me out so you have the floor okay um so I think like the most important thing right now is um taking care of like your own mental and emotional well-being because this is a pandemic everybody is stressed everybody's like unsure of what's going to happen next and everybody's socially isolated we're not seeing people that we're used to seeing every single day um if we feel lonely there's not really um a good fix for that right now so I think like finding new ways to take care of yourself and your own um mental being is what's really important right now that's very well said yes I'm Zander well just let's say that that's free so we might I'm gonna start wrapping this up oh oh goodness what time is it three three so we have we actually have like another um hour but we're gonna thank you though Brooks um but I did ask you to help me watch as I have this on full screen so how about if we talk for you know at least another 30 minutes because I have so many more questions and then we can do fandom moments and we'll have somebody explain and do you remember that any noise you're making we can all hear and it makes you pop up on the screen so if there's background noise be sure to mute yourselves I had somebody come in I had my partner come in and say goodbye to me because he's actually he's a pastor so he's going to his church and he's the only person there I feel like I have to explain everything that I do and and during this time like oh I'm going to the office to pick up the green screen but it's there's nobody at the office or there's a lot of stuff I have to pick up the the office but so other thought um um oh Nina um I think you mute yourself by if you just this is a little okay um if you uh move your cursor to the bottom of the screen this is something that is so relevant to what's going on it's like I've had to learn zoom now I get to learn discord so I can we can chat with all of you and um we'll see you in a minute and it's one of big learning curve so any other thoughts on society's responsibility to young people right now and let's turn it around and say your responsibility to society I mean to stay inside but yeah kind of like then that's huge I think especially because we are younger we are like at the peak of our immune systems we are less likely to show symptoms of the disease if we have it um and a lot more likely to recover if we do get it so like especially as the younger generation we can't be going out and interacting with people because we are most likely to spread this and put other people in danger yeah does anybody have um thoughts on how your generation and millennials or just younger people in general are being characterized during this like how you're being portrayed um can I say okay Nina don't worry don't worry yes um I think that like the younger generation is being portrayed as like um like not really taking things seriously which like there are some people um that are not taking like everything seriously I know that for sure but like that's across like all generations it's not just young people it's like people in every generation that are like not taking it seriously but I also know that a lot of young people like what from what I've seen on like social media everybody's like um trying to take care of each other and like spread positivity that's nice I like that I think it was Courtney Miriam then Mina and then can I ask does any but um I can just clarify the question a little bit like we're hearing things on the news about how Gen Z or millennials are um being responsible or not being responsible how they're handling social social distancing um just like any way that anything that you're hearing that is specifically targeted or um for which your generation is like the target um what people are saying about you basically so maybe not even in the media like just what people are saying about young people so it was Courtney and Miriam Mina right I mean I know that like uh several of my friends at university until the in place like stay in place order went out they were still going out and partying which wasn't a very smart move on their part but then I know most of my friends are also staying inside and finding new ways to connect so I think it's really just a matter of trying to get everybody on the same page as soon as possible I don't think we should really be scapegoating anybody or calling somebody the bad guy but there are definitely some people who aren't probably taking this as seriously as they should be and I think that's one of the possible problems of why this could be going on for as long as it will be going on that's a good point yeah and then was it the reason I just went I just bought on the screen and Miriam yeah one of the things that I've noticed about Gen Z in general is that they don't tend to take everything seriously because if they took everything seriously they would be under incredible stress all the time like we're on a planet with an expiration date and few people are doing things about it if we took every crisis super seriously we would all be terribly stressed and sad all the time so we can't think seriously which I think is not the best coping mechanism but better than panicking every time something happens I think that is an excellent point and I want to hear from the next person and then I would love to hear what other people think about that including Audrey so was it Nina next yes I believe so okay so actually where I live where I live right now is like some people are taking it a little too seriously like there's just one guy who's going around pretending to be a police officer and telling these people to go back to their house and them back wow and also people in other countries are taking this way too seriously because like they'll be going to the grocery and like they'll the police will come and start shooting them with rubber bullets that's happening currently and I believe India no that's Africa it's happening in India and Bangladesh as well yeah I was just talking to somebody from Bangladesh about it like yesterday wow they were doing like protests or something um just talking about um so I don't know that much about the situation but there were like protests and stuff happening for like certain things and they were getting shot with like rubber bullets or like being out because okay so if I remember the story it was like um people got ran like ran over by some like person driving a bus or whatever so then like a ton of people in school like started doing a protest but then since they were all like grouped together the police started shooting them with rubber bullets because like coronavirus risk and it was just like a really big deal wow so it sounds uh that would be an interesting thing to talk about is like what you think would be the ideal government to deal with a crisis like this um but who is next I believe um so after me Louie Louie okay yes Louie so I know that um young people if they get like coronavirus they're probably not going to die from it it's probably just gonna be like a cold to them so um I know a lot of adults have been saying oh young people like stay inside and stuff but you don't have to worry but it can still be really worrisome for some of us because we don't want to spread it to like our family and we're just really worried about like what's happening in the society so young people should be allowed to worry just as much as adults I like that allowed to worry and I want to say it's not that there's no risk to young people it's that there's less risk but what do you think about that that phrase allowed to work well um everyone should be allowed to worry about the things that they think are like not good and they should be able to worry for whatever they want to worry about as long as it's not going like overboard crazy worrying yeah that's well said so is peter and then bella yes I believe so yeah I just had a thought about um kind of the different worry between different ages of people and when you're a young person especially like high school and college there are constantly things going on that won't happen again like graduation that sort of thing yeah you get older if something's canceled those things are often like like they happen again like if you miss if a wedding or something has to be canceled when you're like 50 or whatever the wedding can happen another time but more for young people for you are one time graduation and trauma something yeah like my conference there's going to be another conference next year that's a really good point and then I just forgot the order again me help me okay so we all are what next now um we should not only be allowed to worry but we should be allowed to be sad and like grieve over the events that we're not going to be able to go to and also a lot of us seniors are moving out of state this year um and so another part is this is the last time we get to really hang out with our friends in high school uh before we're off like doing our own adventures so this whole thing is impacting just every part of life and even though we're not probably not going to die from this and we still have many years ahead of us that won't be impacted by stuff like pandemics it's still important to recognize that we are allowed to be emotional in every way yeah yes and who is that any other thoughts on this and and then what about what Miriam said so I I really feel what you're saying about the grief over things that this is your only chance your only prom your only graduation um your last chance to hang out with your friends before life changes for you and I'm sure that like even if you're not a senior there are other things that are once in a lifetime things and you know you're always told to cherish your youth um but I'm I'm also interested in what Miriam said about the more global picture um which is this idea that there's so much for your generation to worry about that it's hard to take everything seriously because you would not be able to function Mina you had something yes so actually there's this like really cool show called Cirque du Soleil and sadly just yesterday they declared bankruptcy oh man so that's a big event that's been canceled as well there's like like one of my mom's friends is like my mom also was going to go see this new play that just came out she's not going to go to that there's a lot of other huge events that might be canceled but at the same time those things can also like you can do them they can try and redo it or something like that maybe try and reschedule and if they can't then the person who has it can hold like their own little mini version of that whether like businesses can go bankrupt and they all their money and they can't really exactly come back yeah and yeah and I think it was Courtney next yes I believe so yeah so I mean while this this whole thing is obviously making history but I think another thing that we need to consider is what we're losing as well I mean I know that a Holocaust survivor died in the Middle East and that's a big part of history that we're losing that we can't get back that first person account of those events that it's forever now lost because of this event that's happening yeah and Deacon made a point about humor Deacon what were you saying about using humor oh no I was just saying that we were talking about on Miriam's point earlier that we can't really worry about everything and I was just saying that I agree with that I have a personal experience just with that because of how my brain works even like very small problems like problems that people would be able to brush off quite easily like to me like I'm a bigger deal than it should be because my brain like makes to be a bigger deal than they really have any right because of that I feel like I need to use like humor and I can't really take everything too seriously because if I did take everything seriously then I would not be able to function I relate to that so much and I also want to say just that I know this could be true about you because like your writing is deeply hilarious but it's also like deep it's actually it's actually deep so I think it's up to it's to the level of satire where it gets funny but it also says something and I think that's that's a really important function of humor and who is next I was wondering like I believe after quoting um actually Audrey made a pretty good point with what she said because she said that people are buying groceries in a book especially toilet paper which I've learned is kind of strange why people don't like people buy a lot of food but they also buy like three packs of toilet paper and so a lot of what a lot of people are asking is why is the toilet paper such a big sale currently during this pandemic yeah anybody have theories oh um Audrey do you have more I was just like um well like my point was there it was kind of just like about um kind of like the psychology behind like everything that's happening all like the panic buying it's like um you hear that like mass like people act irrationally when they're afraid of things it's like a common theme you see throughout movies like you don't really think that it's real you think that you're um gonna be smarter than that but then when you're actually afraid you find yourself in the grocery store buy and bulk buying toilet paper I think you made such a good point and I want to hear from Miriam and Xander and I want to just throw out a question based on what Audrey said which is you're a generation that has grown up on just books and movies and how does that change how you are experiencing things there's Miriam then Xander right yeah I believe so things that's unique about this pandemic that we haven't seen before in history is the fact that we have internet so we can communicate with everyone and you can also easily access information about what's going on so it's we're panicking some people are and some people are doing just fine and it's interesting to see the difference how would we do without the internet yeah so Xander I'm sorry I'm laughing at that but Xander right I think that is a good point with the internet but I'm going to go back to the theory graphing in about the toilet paper the reason why I think the people are buying so much toilet paper is because they heard on the news or other sources that people are buying toilet paper and if they don't buy toilet paper now they're going to run out of toilet paper and they don't know how long this is going to last so yeah so yes so I think it was and that's a really good point like how the media is handling this and where you're getting your information so Louise Benbella is that right well my number um so many people have been going to buy toilet paper that's like some targets um there are like police guarding the toilet paper aisles um so it's it's becoming like a very big thing and it's also a hand sanitizer because people like feel that they need to always have something to keep their hands clean and because some it's it's gone in most stores people are buying it for like a lot of money over eBay and things like that so sorts of things um the necessities that we want but don't exactly need that that much um um it's going like very it's going very crazy because of this whole pandemic yeah and um was it Xander next or is it Xander next um oh bella that's right I wanted to sort of talk about like the way we read and watch dystopias in literature and movies it's always from the perspective of the hero or the chosen one someone who is special and sort of resolves the whole thing on their own or with a tune and in reality we're not typically the people making huge changes like we're not going out and making vaccines we're not going to be able to sort of save the world in the way a typical dystopia um is saved or not saved depending so I think it's just it it's sort of hopeless how we can get we can we can feel hopeless just because the way things are portrayed and the way things actually happen kind of don't line up how are you all feeling about all this quite frankly I don't I'm not really bothered by it because I know what to do and I'm trying to stay calm through the situation as much as I can but at the same time there's a lot of stressful things going around and sometimes people go overboard talking about the worst instead of the best that could happen which makes people get stressed out and that's why so many people are panicking I'm sorry Audrey just said just said something funny in the chat but I think that's a really good point did somebody else have something so Courtney just pointed out that is 325 so I think is anybody interested in talking about this more or do you want to do a more traditional YA meeting next week and also Robin and I are available as like if you ever want to talk you just need to connect to a human then we're here um so in terms of like do you want to go back to doing another story or um Robin's saying it but she thinks that what makes people anxious is the uncertainty and I agree with so anyway oh yeah so what the yeah okay wait Courtney first for me no Courtney was just saying something in the chat oh okay so one thing I want to mention is I live in like a little a small little family so we're not really that separated that means we kind of I'm kind of hanging out with my brother and I'm knowing my dad's more in person so I don't really get that same missing physical people I guess because I'm kind of with my like family I guess yeah yeah and I wanted that and that makes me think of what you said a lot earlier Clara is that in some cases your support system might be it might even be a family member but it might be a family member who doesn't live with you or friends that you really need and Bella you had more that you wanted to say yeah so in a different situation it's just me and my mom at my house right now and even though I have siblings and aunts and uncles they're all sort of spread out so I'm not able to like visit my family that often so most of my support system is my friends and I've definitely definitely been feeling the loneliness that comes from not having other people around yeah loneliness is such like if that's a word that we haven't actually said yet but I think that's a huge part of that so it's a word that's important to associate with pandemics yeah it's loneliness yeah but it's definitely happening and Deacon did you did you have something that you wanted to say yeah I'm just saying that even though I haven't really been impacted a lot physically I feel like I've been impacted a lot mentally by this night we talked about this when we did the Facebook live but like what everything that's going on now like less with the sickness worldwide how people are reacting is that everyone they're you know panicking and crying for a paper or being really cynical and be like oh look out like the coronavirus like we're all going to get killed and it's like it makes me interact with people even less than I already did for the point where like after this I probably will not survive as many people because I'm like wow people are either crazy or they're jerks so like what's the point yeah um so yeah I feel like it's giving me less confidence in people not because of the virus because there's not everyone's either being very cynical or being very sensible at the same time and I want to address that a little bit um but I want to hear what you have to say and then we do have to kind of wrap up we do have to wrap up yeah my point was just like I'm experienced so I got the whole life ahead of me and there's a lot of thinking about the future going on it's just a big well if we can go back to normal after this how will that impact my future everyone else's future but if we don't know how long it will last by the discussion the economy and everything and there's so many things we will not be able to know about how the coronavirus will affect everything that is my big anxiety because I just don't know how this is going to change everything after we're all about to go back to that or we're all I mean nobody's forcing us to stay in our homes but um after this is it seems like this is all over you know after so we're not expected to be focused on sitting where I just do I don't know how the world is going to change and I I do want to say on deacon's point that I'd like to have some more discussions and maybe even like do some workshops on like where like how the media is portraying things because I just I'm really feeling personally like not sure about all the information that I'm getting and um you know just go to the grocery store and it might seem crazy but then somebody's really crying and it's it's really hard to know we were talking earlier about how your generation has been portrayed and I think um you know that it's it's not fair to characterize like all people or small groups of people based on small groups of people um so I don't know um I would like to go into fandom moments um and I would like yay yay and I would which is a good thing this is a good thing in life I would like for somebody to explain what fandom moments are and if you have one deacon will sorry it's a tradition you have to say deacon well so in your fandom moment if you have thoughts on um what you want the next discussion like like to be like like if it would be nice to have some normalcy and just read a story and talk about it um or watch some clips and talk about it um then that would be something that would be really good and if you want to talk more about what's going on and um Robin what you're saying in the chat yes absolutely so um who's going to take us in so who is going to explain what fandom moments are okay I guess so interesting things that happened to you this week I guess it's hard to say we've been so but just interesting nerdy things that happened or just other things that happened you know we're not very strict about what exactly happens through the fandom moment that's true okay do you want to start and then I think Robin's going to call on people yeah yeah okay I can point um and I don't got much I've been reading uh thank you again I've been playing a board game online with my friends that I'm kind of warning um yeah that's about it it's not very exciting it sounds like fun to me though okay yeah it's fun it's not cool um I'm just gonna run down the list so the next person would be Audrey okay um so I uh finished the lord of the ring series yeah the books and the movies I had to like um for like the last two movies I had to like look up all the extended version scenes on youtube because I didn't feel like paying 20 bucks for a movie and um yeah so I was stuck in middle earth for quite a while um now I'm reading um I got like two like uh volumes of the complete Sherlock Holmes so now I'm reading that nice it's pretty cool um I started um a tv show like Star Trek Discovery yeah I haven't actually watched any Star Trek movies I'm just watching the tv show actually I've watched one Star Trek movie but yeah um um I'm gonna like move to like a different room because like I um did like uh I'm like finger painting because I was like bored so I'm gonna like see if I can like turn around the camera I don't know if I can't so I'll just like do it like this you see it wow wow wow show me again oh yeah oh wow Audrey that's wonderful whoa there thank you that was finger painting and then like we got like some cool like uh puzzles like there's like all the puzzles all the pieces are kind of weirdly shaped will be nice so yeah those are my venom moments very cool yay uh next would be Clara um I found an online magazine that is willing to publish like an op-ed essay thing I wrote um so I'm really excited about that that's awesome will you share it with me what's in it again um I found um online magazine that's gonna publish something that I wrote oh yeah you have to share that with us please oh my goodness you have yay that's so cool yay anything else um I guess I went on a school trip to Washington D.C. and we got like we got back like a couple days before everything shut down and so it was really good timing that we got go wow how was the trip it was really fun it was cool thanks I love D.C. yay okay uh court 8 so other than the large amount of homework I've had I've been playing a lot of animal crossing because that came out last week so I've been working on my island and I've also been finding ways to connect with my friends so we did an online D&D session last week and that was actually really fun because just gave everybody a chance to talk and like let off some steam so we've been playing online games together and just chilling cool thanks it's good to see you too yeah um I'm glad that you all could be here today uh next would be Deacon who Deacon Deacon oh okay okay I didn't hear I didn't hear the D sorry I heard like I haven't been doing much uh me and my mom have been watching all the Star Wars movies again and that's been pretty fun I didn't remember anything about the original ones and so that was fun uh other than that I haven't really been doing too much I've been writing a lot and reading a lot and drawing a lot as well even though I'm not like great at drawing and I still enjoy doing it so I do it every once in a while and I've been getting to do a lot of that uh so yeah that's that's pretty much it really nice um Kelly you're next on my list do you want to go now um sure um I um started to set up my home office so I got on my little geeky stuff and I tried to have dispensers and lots of princess Leia and some McGonagall and my favorite by Saddle Holdo um and I'm going to geek up by it some more and I was actually I had to travel to Texas to help my mom with some things and I was there when the whole world changed um so I stayed a lot longer which was nice it was great to do with my mom um and then I decided that I had to come home um to be with my family here so I rented a car and traveled home with virtually like almost no human contact like very little human contact and taking as many precautions as I possibly could and it was an amazing beautiful drive and I got to listen to lots of audiobooks one Star Trek audiobook and then Finty by Nadia Korobor I finally got to um listen to that and so I'm really loving audiobooks right now because um like different library services are increasing the number that you can check out online and then the finale of Star Trek the card was amazing and I've only cried once um cried more at Star Trek once and I won't tell you when that was because it's a major spoiler but it was incredible and um we did an online Doctor Who and Philosophy Discussion last night which was super fun we're going to be doing fandom Friday discussions which I hope you'll all be part of and then my other fandom moment is just being here with you is incredible because you know I've been away extra because I was in Texas and I've just really missed you all and I'm so glad to see you and because you've just brightened my life more than anything else and it's wonderful yeah and um for those of you who are in our Harry Potter groups you're going to try to do online Harry Potter too just as an announcement okay um Bella so I have a couple one is that I'm going to be the dungeon master for a couple D&D games coming up um and the other is that I've been getting into two TV shows over like the quarantine almost Philip K. Dick's Electric Dreams so good it's absolutely beautiful and all of this story they're mesmerizing and amazing so I've been watching that and that's been super fun and also the Ray Bradbury Theater which is based on the Bradbury short stories and so some of them I read some of them I haven't but that's just been super interesting to watch that I was actually thinking of watching that because it came up and on my Amazon Prime or something Audrey just said something really tragic as in kind of an anti-fandom moment so Audrey can we come back to you at the end yeah because I'm grieving I'm really upset thank you okay uh Louise Louise um so I got permission who instead of playing the flute in my school jazz band I I cannot play the saxophone in the jazz band which is really fun because I've never done that before and um I've been playing a lot of board games with my family and making a lot of art and a very sad thing is that my favorite show which is on it 16th season not supernatural but some it's on it 16th season um it's the three last episodes of the 16th season had to get canceled what show is it really sad uh Grey's Anatomy oh and I'm really sad because I love that too and we want you to send us pictures or scans or whatever of all your art and we'd love to read read your writing and all that stuff all the cool stuff that you're um creating while you're yes please um Malia um I haven't really been doing anything just besides writing and reading like I just started the throne of glass series and I've been writing like since the social distancing started I've written I think we were on page 25 of our Google Docs and now we're on page 90 so we've been just writing like non-stop yeah nice yeah that's it like that's all I've been doing I think that's great yeah that sounds like a lovely existence right now um next is Nina okay just a sec I gotta get ready there's a specific reason why I've been off camera for a while okay okay I'm back okay my room is cold so I do this often okay so I have to end the moment I recently found my lizard again and I'm very happy it's my favorite and also recently I made a doll dress cool that's wonderful and then I also just have this stuff either that I've been I got what kind of feature is that it's from the Lilo and stitch movies uh it's I got it from Disneyland I'm very proud of it nice and I'm sorry gone and also I am officially starting my very first dnd online dnd campaign I get to be a druid bugs I'm a bug druid a bug druid yep I love that oh yeah yeah we should play the last stand on zoom or on google hangouts that's that would be fun we should do that hangout that's not gonna be really fun or it's gonna be like an disaster I don't know if you guys have seen roll 20 but we could use roll 20 to play the last one oh yeah my screen yeah that could roll 20 okay uh dig in and I'll take this one too okay yeah well um peter if you guys can email us um we'll work it out that way yeah I don't know if anybody explained because my um screen froze for a minute but the last stand is a role-playing game that this group of young people young adults invented like five years ago I want to say it was at miss it was at miss corn yes in my world was that um our our our real is that the thing in my world yeah our first in our only yeah yeah yeah and we've and we've been playing it for five years and like new people come in and then you know Courtney and um Leo graduated and so you had to point your successors as game masters so it's very cool okay uh oh mean assist yeah if you're having trouble using zoom like we'll talk we'll communicate with all of you about like what platforms you want to um communicate on besides discord which we're already doing thanks to Peter okay Miriam okay so um during this meeting I just posted what I drew in the discord which is snake inspired things the snakes are cool uh I guess recently I've kind of been doing poetry there is no poetry in my notebook than there was before um thankfully the finale of Steven universe future has not been delayed due to coronavirus so we got to see that glorious good I've not even playing as much dnd as I thought I would be there's still time yeah I think that all and you know I just want to say again is the one that we'd love to read your stuff we'd love to see your art all of it if you want to record yourself playing the flute or the saxophone or whatever you play then that would be good to you have a built-in audience anything else Miriam that's it okay uh Peter already went I guess I have one more I guess um no you don't get another one sorry it's fine no Peter yeah I guess um I started watching a mind hunter on Netflix yes it's been an experience um I've also been reading Stephen King so I guess I'm like uh like uh willow binge I guess doing this whole thing so nice nice um I'll let you answer in the chat uh Sawyer you're next oh I don't really have anything to say nothing we're glad you're here uh Brooks I'm going to be playing some db tonight nice yeah a wonderful dm is letting me play as two characters what are your two characters uh Eden what's a circle of the moon and John what's a circle of this separate good I I love druids I love playing cards and druids that's awesome yeah we're kind of no yeah right yeah I love playing clerics but anyway that's awesome yeah so uh Xander yeah you know here next yeah so I've been looking forward to this update for for this game called scrap mechanics for like multiple years now and it's supposed to have come out come out in like three days but I'm guessing it's going to get delayed so that's a little frustrating I've been playing a little bit at a few video games with my with my friend um and I was thinking think about a couple stories from the time I went to world scout jamboree like I was inside of I was doing some VR stuff and I was playing beat saver and like I was just going ham and like throughout the entire time I was going ham at beat saver just everyone else in the tent left except for the staff so what ended up happening was me just like going crazy as like there was no one else in there I love my story what was the other story um um I didn't have another story but let me pick up one real quick let's see oh yeah at jamboree there was this bridge that was like a huge bridge I don't know if I have any pictures of it like on hand but it basically had an arch kind of thing where it had the ropes on the side but instead of just having ropes on the side you could actually walk on it and you can go under the bridge and there was like a little down there with the picnic tables so a lot of people were trading their patches from camp and one day it was raining so I walked underneath the bridge and there was like hundreds of patches just littered the floor down there because people that dropped into the cracks wow do you think that's been happening over years I don't think so since there was there was a thousand over like 40,000 people or something like that there oh wow wow yeah so there might have happened some of the patches might have been there before but so it was really funny like I saw some people just down there collecting the patches that people dropped as well for their own collection so that's that's an awesome story yeah I have great stories about your brief okay we have many fandom moments to come and so you I would love to hear them okay Audrey do you want to share your small one yeah what about Sawyer Sawyer went didn't have much to say he said uh which is okay yep okay Audrey break my arm again okay oh I'm grieving because supernatural it's in the smack middle of season 15 and like I've like already like um it's like already hard to like wait a week in between episodes especially just took like a month break and I was not happy about that month break I know but now they can't like edit any more episodes so they can't like have any more episodes but it's making me sad because there's gonna be like because we don't know when supernatural is gonna be back it's I'm yeah it's I'm devastated it I completely I'm in the same boat as you the last season it's the 15th and they like and they left off on a cliff it's terrible it's terrible but we can we can like support each other yes we're in this together oh my god together I feel you Audrey I feel you so much because currently I've finished the recent season of Miraculous and they were about to come out with the fifth season and now they can't so I'm I'm upset about that so much is impacted by everything that's going on but talking to all of you always gives me hope for the future and you know like I said it just I can you know Robin and I have said so many times we can be having a bad day and we come into a YA meeting and our day is not bad anymore it's great and this has been great and I'm so grateful to you and we'll talk um we'll send out emails so do pay attention to your emails um and we'll talk on this actually now that Peter just called for us um I'm not sure but can I share my we'll talk about um other ways I didn't share my phone oh Robin sorry I just want to oh my gosh that's so unfair it's okay yeah go Robin um well I'm still working like at home but when I'm off I have been playing and I've now finished the Outer Worlds video game so that's cool Peter I know you played it but um Outer Worlds is okay so you beat me yeah well I mean a lot um and my show my favorite show The Magicians is ending but we it's already been filmed but next week is like the last whatever is it the music I don't know how I feel about that but I did get the books now so I can at least read the books oh we have to talk about the books yeah I'll let you know when I finish oh sorry is the last episode a musical episode no they just had a musical episode and they have one more next week oh I think I'm gonna start watching that show it's definitely an M rated show so oh yeah yeah which one The Magicians is definitely an M rated show yeah yeah and the books are too like I would not recommend that anyone who is not an adult read those books um absolutely anyway okay so um is there anything else that we need to add before we're done or we need to talk about because we will be communicating with all of you and we want to stay in touch as much as possible do you remember we know this is a stressful time and you have anxiety and questions and worry and grief and sadness and confusion and all of those things and that all of those things are okay to feel and that Robin and I are here for you um and that we love hearing from you and your lizard it's like Dr. Who four things and a lizard so anyway um we think you're all amazing and I'm glad that um long lot gets to see how amazing you are so thanks for being willing to be recorded today and we'll do more of this um more of recordings so that people can more people can see more of your awesomeness and um yeah until next time which I hope is sooner than next Saturday because we have so many things that you can join in on and thank you so much are we going to close out with this logo too yes and you know what I think deacon needs to do it yes deacon deacon deacon I actually think that Mina's lizard should do it yes I agree dart dart being a nerd wait wait Mina okay yeah um I need to everybody ready why are you holding up her Lord of the Rings books I'll hold this is everyone are you holding a toothbrush okay one one two three three