 Steve, I'm just going to drop yours a tiny bit if that's all right, mate. He's still going to say something first, right? So we're right? They might have a different view, so we'll be democratic and go down the centre. Nothing if not centrist. It is very poignant to be here with the Foreign Minister and to see the work that our Australian trainers are doing. Our Australian trainers are doing in training Ukrainian soldiers. It's really important to understand that this is a citizen army which is in place now in Ukraine. The people that we're seeing who are being trained have come from normal jobs throughout their country, have volunteered in order to defend their country. And what they face is intense danger when they go home. And the training that Australians are providing are going to help make them safer. It will save lives and it will make an incredible contribution to enabling Ukraine to stay in this fight for as long as possible so that they are able to resolve this conflict on Ukraine's terms, which is so important for the world. It really is and it very much goes to Australia's national interests. I think Penny and I have an intense sense of pride about what our Australian servicemen and women are doing here and they are making a real difference to what's happening in Ukraine. Thanks Richard. We've spoken a lot in Australia about what Ukraine means to us in Australia and means to the world community. And it is a fight that is about protecting the rules that have protected us for many decades. And it is a fight against an illegal and immoral war being waged by Mr Putin. And I've had moving moments before talking about this issue and I've met with members of the Australian Ukrainian community. But to be here and to speak with those brave Ukrainians who have come here in order to learn better how to defend their country is profoundly humbling. And I want to acknowledge them and I want to acknowledge as Richard has the Australians who are here working with others to better prepare and train these brave men and women. Thank you. I don't think anyone would say that of the contribution that Australia has made. There's an ongoing question of balancing the support that we provide Ukraine and ensuring that we maintain our own capabilities in Australia for our own national purposes. But it's worth remembering that Australia is one of the largest non-NATO contributors to the effort in Ukraine. And in all the meetings that we've had wherever we go there is an incredible sense of gratitude from countries in Europe but from Ukraine itself for the contributions that Australia is making. Now we know this is going to be a prolonged conflict. We will continue to assess what we need to do to make sure that we stand with Ukraine but be sure that that is what we will do and obviously the training effort that you're seeing here today is part of that. You've been charged with tanks, they've asked for tanks. We have a beyond Abrams tanks that are going to be replaced next year. Why can't we send any of them? Well again we will continually assess the contribution that we make. We'll keep the dialogue going with Ukraine. But if you take a step back and look at the overall contribution that we have made and have been making and we'll continue to do it we stand as one of the largest non-NATO contributors to supporting Ukraine and that should be a source of pride for all Australians. We will continue to have an assessment about how we can best support Ukraine. Now right now the support that's making a real difference is what you are seeing around us here. Just think about the soldiers who are being trained. Think about the environment that they're going to go into in the near future. Think about the difference that is being made for them by the skills and the proficiency which is being passed on to them by the Australian trainers. That is a huge contribution and that is our focus right now. Are the Australian trainers going to be part of this? We're not putting a time frame on it, it's a completely fair question and obviously we're not putting a time frame on it because you can't put a time frame on the conflict. And to be frank we're being coy about that for a whole lot of important reasons. But I think in the general sense we will stand with Ukraine for as long as it takes and we understand that this is going to be a protracted conflict. Again we're not talking about numbers publicly for operational reasons but the point I would make about the delivery of the bushmasters is that the schedule of delivery is on target. Do you think the position of sending the Australian army and personnel to train people in World War I tactics to control them? Well tactics have evolved and I think one of the things we'd want to point out and you can see it with what we're witnessing today they're very sophisticated training which is underway but I guess the kind of import of your question speaks to the brutality of the conflict that these people are about to go back to and that's right. It is brutal and those who are being trained here now in the very near future are going to find themselves in a very dangerous and brutal environment. And the answer to your question is no, I wouldn't have imagined that. And I think when you speak to the Australians who are doing this training I'm not sure they would have either but in speaking to them what's really clear is the sense of moment that they had about what they're doing, about the seriousness of this and the difference that they're making and it's impossible not to feel a real sense of pride about that. Well look, we considered this very carefully, looked at the range of security issues and the decision at the moment is that we will continue to provide assistance from I think it's Poland. Obviously that will continue to review that but the safety of Australian personnel obviously is the priority we have to apply to that decision. Thank you.