 Dawn of the Dead, which is like top quality. To zombie five killing birds, which is one the worst piece of shit ever. Hello and welcome to another episode of Frightfully Forgotten Horror Movies, but before we get started, what are we drinking? Today we're drinking Crystal Lake Colch. Nice. Today we're gonna bring to you a confusing history and downfall of the zombie movies. All of the zombie sequels after Dawn of the Dead, or what they call zombie in Italy. And that's where the confusion right from the start. So Dawn of the Dead was Dawn of the Dead everywhere else basically, except for in Italy it was called zombie. There was many cuts of Dawn of the Dead too, which adds to the confusion, right? There's the theatrical cut, Giorgio Romero's cut, which was 127 minutes. There was an extended cut, which is 139 minutes. And then there was the Dario Argento cut, which was cut down to 119 minutes, which was like the European cut. In Italy it was called zombie. Dawn of the Dead by Giorgio Romero is a masterpiece. Gotta put that in there. The best zombie movies of all time. So of course they have to kind of jump on that bandwagon and try to bank off the name a bit. Zombie was actually zombie 2 in Italy because they jumped on the back of it and made it a sequel. By name only. Yeah, by name only. It was just zombie in North America and in the UK it was zombie flesh eaters. It also gets back to the origins of the zombie, right, with voodoo and mysticism and stuff like that. And this movie is also a masterpiece on its own. Yeah. Even though it is not a legit sequel, it's a standalone movie. It's a great movie. It's probably again one of the more beloved of the zombie genre films. It would be this movie. It's shot magnificently. The cinematography is fantastic. The zombies look great. Yeah, it's nice and gory. It's got the eye scene, right? The famous eye scene. Got a great score. It's a fucking masterpiece. Then we get to the sequel zombie 3. And this one was actually directed by Lucio Fulci. Sort of. So this one starts off with scientists in this lab and they're working on this compound called death one. This compound gets out. It gets out into the general public and starts to infect people and turn them into zombies. A clash between the scientists and the military on how to contain this. Start to cremate a lot of the bodies and then the ashes get thrown into the air. Yeah. And then the birds take them and eat them or whatever and they get spread out that way from the animals. Neat idea but not a wholly original. Run into various groups of people who run into these zombies, these infected people and they have to survive. That's basically it. Pretty powerful course. Yeah. Zombie 3 was made like 10 years later after zombie 2 or zombie or zombie flesh eaters. First thing you'll notice is the massive decline in quality between zombie, zombie 2 and zombie 3. Yeah. It's like holy fuck like. What happened? Just that opening shot in that lab. It's like what? Is this filming someone's basement? Yeah. It feels like an are you afraid of the dark episode or something? It looks like they're using like food heat lamps as lighting sources. I know it's like Fulgee Man what did you do? Who did you suck off to get the budget for the first zombie movie and how come you couldn't suck off the same people for this? Yeah. Like the budget in this movie is so low. It was filmed I think in the Philippines. And it shows. To save money and it's like oh man production quality is so bad. Yeah. The dubbing is horrible. I've got a better idea. Yeah. Of course. We must stop this. We are already working on studying an antidote for what in my belief. It's like yeah let's get going here. What the fuck? Like is a virus? We're looking for an element which will enable us to stop this virus from reproducing. Fine. But actually when you watch that guy's lips he's actually talking like that so the dubbing has to follow that. He's trying to imagine it. Besides this death one getting out into public this movie is kind of void of plot. Yeah. Like that's it. Like it gets out and it just cuts to random people trying to survive. And then it cuts back to the military arguing with the scientists. Yeah. And that's the whole movie. There's no characters that you get introduced to that you like. You don't even really know who the main characters are. Because there aren't any really assistant. No. Just these random people you get into as military guys show up. Zombies kind of coming out of nowhere. Coming from the ceiling. Coming from walls. They're coming from everywhere. Zombies in this movie come out of the stupidest places. It's like at the end out of that hay bale. The guy's trying to like get onto the helicopter and they come out of the hay bale. Like they're just waiting in the hay bale. Like sleeping I don't know. Like when they're in that house there's that one scene where they go to the fridge. They open that fridge up and there's that zombie head. Why there's a zombie head in the fridge. I don't know. But it all comes flying out at them like. How. And why. Yeah. This is movie. It's like you're watching a bunch of different movies. Like every scene seems like it's from a different movie. There's no like cohesion. Yeah. There's no continuity. Yeah. And I think a lot of that has to do because the fact that the full cheap buggered off. He didn't actually finish the movie. Like took off. Like did fuck this. Yeah. So it all set to come on board to finish it in it. You can tell that is there's no direction because there was no real director. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. About halfway through the movie it instantly gets better actually. And I think maybe that's where whoever was else was brought on kind of took the production by the balls. The makeup for the zombies gets better. The lighting. The camera work. Yeah. If full cheap was directing the first half. Well man you suck. Yeah. Or maybe he directed the last half. Or maybe he did the last. Yeah. Yeah. This movie is just a fucking mess. It's like I've tried watching this movie about two three times before I was actually able to finish it. And the only reason I finished it because I knew we were doing this episode. Yeah. It's a piece of nonsense. Well I like to piss on a bush. Am I going to go to hell for that? But I had a good time anyways knowing what it was. You have to know that it's going to be garbage going in. Yeah. See I had a hard time enjoying it. It has its moments like with the head coming out of the fridge and a couple of zombie attacks are pretty good. But then you're just kind of like bogged down with all this boring in between shit. That DJ guy they always show for no reason. Yeah. Talking on the radio. And at the end he's all his zombie but he's still doing his radio show as a zombie. They don't do that. Like zombies don't have the brain power to be running a fucking show. Yeah. That's funny because like one thing you'll notice from all these zombie sequels is there are no rules. Anything goes. Yeah. That's right. Anything goes in all these sequels. Zombie 4 goes back to its voodoo roots. So it's almost seems more like a sequel to zombie flesh eaters or zombie or zombie 2. Yeah. It starts off with like this voodoo guy and his wife doing this voodoo and she's all getting possessed dancing around and flailing. The scientists are on the island to do research on cancer and during this research they're trying to cure the voodoo guy's daughter and she died. And the voodoo guy blames the scientists or he puts like a curse on the whole island. Yeah. Bringing the zombies up and his wife turns into some crazy demon. Yeah. It starts killing her. The opening of this movie is pretty fucking intense. He has the power to close the door to hell or whatever and they kill them. They kill them. Yeah. And so like the door to hell stays open and these zombies you know many many years later there's these mercenaries hanging out with these girls. Throwing that bolt. Yeah. They go that drop handle mustache. And they kind of find their way to this island. One of the girls happens to be the girl who escaped the island when she was a little girl. Right. Her memory is coming back about all this stuff right. In the meantime there's another group of people who are like researchers going to the island to find out what happened to this other research team and they stumble upon the zombies. Yeah. And they kind of have to join forces to fight off the zombies on this island. The first thing that you'll notice about this movie rather than its counterpart number three is the wicked opening 80s theme right away that you're introduced to. Oh just sucks you in you're like yeah. It's a fucking awesome song. Sounds like a song by fucking survivors. Yeah some of the muted guitar there comes in as I said it's a fucking anthem. Yeah it's like you're watching a Rockey movie or whatever rights like oh fuck yeah and then like not only that song but the rest of the movies for is fantastic actually like yeah all the little incidental music to scoring scenes and shit are really good. Already this movie is a big improvement on zombie 3. And the plot and sort of the backstory of this movie makes sense, right? Like, so you've got this voodoo priest, everything he does and everything that the inhabitants of this island do, all make sense. And then the fact that they're on an island, so these zombies and all that that are coming out of the gates of hell... They're kind of contained on the island, right? Exactly. So there's no... there's nothing that's spreading throughout the whole world. And then it's just a few people, they keep the characters to a minimum as well, to, you know, to minimize confusion and shit. It all helps to make sense and also feel more like actual, legit sequel to zombie 2. Right. Is it as good as zombie 2 and dawn of the dead? Fuck no. No. It is not a good movie on paper. If you look at like, you know, what makes a film good, this fails big time. But is it fucking fun? This movie is tons of fun. Definitely. The effects are good. It's funny. It's like legitimately funny. There's funny lines in the movie. The characters are funny. That bearded guy is so toothless and he's funny. It's legit funny. The lighting and the atmosphere is really good in this too. Like you can tell there's heart and soul put into this shitty movie. Definitely. Which makes you kind of like root for it. Even though this is filmed in Asia again. I think in the Philippines again. In the Philippines again. You don't really feel it besides like the jungle. You don't really feel it like you do in the third one. And the zombie extras and stuff look so much better. You can't see like the real faces and that they're all shitty. Yeah. Like in zombie 3 those extras are just like, just like bums. He's got these bums to like put rags on. I mean why all the zombies in zombie 3 are dressed like in rags. Like there's no normal everyday person zombie in zombie 3. They're all like these bums in pajamas. Yeah. So like they didn't have any money. Like nothing. Like come on. Like at least in zombie 4 it's on a voodoo island. So the fact that the zombies all look like they're in these rags. It makes more sense right as opposed to zombie 3. Zombie 4 great improvement. It's a lot of fun. If like if you want a fun schlocky so bad it's good movie. This is one of my favorites actually. Yeah. Definitely. It's a lot of fun. That brings us to zombie 5 killing birds. Oh man. This movie is only called zombie 5 just for the DVD release. They just plastered the zombie 5 title on and that was it. It was originally just called killing birds. Why out of all the movies to slap zombie 5 on why a movie about killing birds? I'm sure there's another shitty Italian zombie movie that could have put zombie 5 on. Yeah. So this movie starts off with like this vietnam vet and he finally comes home and he sees his wife in bed with another man. So he pulls out his naive all slow and everything and he kills the man. Then he kills her. So he's bird? Yeah. There's only birds and whatnot and he's like he starts getting attacked and everything by all the birds and they peck his eyes out. 20 years later you get introduced to all these college kids that are like researching birds. This famous bird researcher that they go visit to get some information from about these birds played by famous actor Robert Vaughn and you kind of assume that he's the guy from the beginning because he's blind he's wearing these glasses right. Let's them use his old house as a base to do their research and this old house is the house where those murders took place in the beginning of the movie. So they're setting up and doing this bird research hanging out in the house walking around and running into these ghosts and being taken back in time. Yeah. And then they run into some zombies in the basement. They have to get that generator all going like they spend way too much time trying to get this fucking generator running like and then it keeps cutting back to Robert Vaughn's character the blind man. It's kind of like listening to birds in his house and like reading braille. Reading all that braille. That's all that guy does in his life. And then he shows up at the house at the end of the movie and is like you can all leave now they're here because of me and then like these birds come and like kill them and that's the end of the movie you don't even see them die you just hear it no you just see the exterior of the house the superimposed birds flying by and hear them scream and then the credits roll oh good lord this is by far the worst of the zombie sequels there's barely any fucking zombies in it this whole movie makes no sense whatsoever there are zombies in this movie but why they're there you have no clue no why they're in the basement first opening scene where he kills the people it's kind of okay like that is intriguing okay this might be pretty good and then from there it's like nothing happens like literally yeah nothing happens in the movie and my notes really it's like I made time stamps 30 minutes in nothing has happened they're just in the house walking around 40 minutes nothing 50 minutes nothing 56 minutes there's zombies but you don't know why the movie is called killing birds and there's no birds doing any killing in the movie no until literally an hour and a half in and right before the credits roll and you don't even see it yeah and then that blind guy is all completely useless no fucking movie like there's that one scene tour he's he stands up he's got that stick and all that and then he's all here and then he keeps walking is like what the fuck does that have to do with anything that's some stroke or something like what the fuck it's such a weird movie because they have these flashbacks to the past and then that's when the zombies arrive or whatever right like it's hard to discern but they do actually kind of look cool they look kind of neat yeah but why they're there you you never really know and why their birds are killing why it's called killing birds i got no clue whatsoever nothing is explained like this it's gotta be honestly one of the worst movies i've ever seen in my life i know and it's like detach it from the whole zombie series or whatever on its own it's a terrible movie yeah terrible terrible movie if you did take the zombies out what would you have you'd have nothing you'd have a nonsensical movie with this guy reading braille and listening to fucking birds yeah and these teenagers seeing ghosts in the house and like that's so as you can tell you go from dawn of the dead which is like top quality to zombie five killing birds which is one the worst piece of shit ever that's where this franchise we're not franchise it's not a fucking franchise it's movies with the zombie name slapped on it for no reason yeah yeah just to uh just to mark it and produce them that's it and that is the confusing bizarre history of the zombie series yeah what a fall from grace i'll tell you man oh man it would have been better if it was like i wish zombie four was the direct sequel that would have been and then just end it you don't need the other ones like right yeah if you're to watch any of the zombie sequels after uh lucio fulci's original zombie part four is the one to go for yeah you can disregard three and five they make no sense they're not connected in any way whatsoever oh man and if you're gonna watch them all make sure you have a beer oh you'll need quite a few beers to get through zombies three and five and you'll probably need a couple of beers to actually enjoy zombie four at its fullest potential yeah exactly you might as well get a keg yeah get a keg blast through them and realize you wasted your life like we've done oh and until next time keep drinking