 Just let me ask, is cheating a deal breaker for you in my institution? Hells yeah, hells. Really? Nkwa mbini ya wacha tata, mbini ya tata mbini ya relationships. If I have a past, ask me. Hai. I can't talk about anything, that's just a relationship. I feel like, I feel like, honestly like, nimi fikatu le place pali, I'm just like, watch and engage Jesus Christ. Hai. Even don Nairobi ni kubaya. See Nairobi too. I feel like, I feel like right now relationships are as confused as possible. Nkwa tata na kijana mwenye wa ya pa kwa stage mwenye na kwa ke. Hai. 3 months later you guys now are, you are in a real relationship. Tangu uyesi kumili pa tata na kwa stage sikila, mumsisa wne isi kwa ke. Hai. Right? The next thing one ya later mkunam toi na boli apili. Hai. Baka tata na kuchat, aki pixi mwenye, eh mama na piga. Mama? Ntata juhi mama ya ko. Yes. When you think about relationships from that aspect that aata kubrekap daya sii kitu rai, sii kitu ngumu. He has no ties then. Oh, your dad anything then. Oh, your mom anything. So, ame miti de mungini, ame move on. Akunja kwa mbe sii, mi sii dai ni. Hi ways. Mental health mazi. Mami pati anxiety. Yeah. You make me, you agree for me bad energy. Yeah. I'm not growing. I need to spread my wings. Hai. Hai. 2 kids later. You see this, you're throwing God, you use God's name in vain. And I think like that. I feel like the fabric of what is to hold society together haiko. So when that confused phase try and figure out what's next. The church and the government try and tell people let's go back. That the society, let's move forward. Yeah. So in that confusion, me say ma, I'm going to date myself. I'm going to date Jesus Christ, my lord. Hi. What's up guys? A very warm welcome to SPM Buzz. My good name is Miss Kufingi. And today I am hanging out with a star. But before guys I introduce my staff today. Make sure you hit that subscribe button. Because we need you. Sindio, the content is amazing. You need to subscribe. Subscribed? Aha, subscribe. Alright. Thank you for subscribing. Now my staff for today is Super MC, Super radio presenter, Sheila Kwanbokha, popularly known as Kwanboks. Hai. Hey, on a vile u metulia, lakini stage bale. What are you always on by me? Energy, yeah. I mean, I have a lot of energy. When I'm excited about something, I will show it by being alive. When I'm not into it, you know. It shows. Yeah, it shows, yeah. Have you always been like that since growing up? Like the energy? Yes. Yes. Oh yeah. I guess I've always had like insane energy. But I think recently we discovered that my energy in the morning supersedes. Aha. Really? Yeah. Like just from waking up? Yeah. Like when I wake up in the morning, I'm just like, let's go. It doesn't, actually, you know, it's not when I'm in bed. When I'm in bed, I don't feel like that. I feel like I want to continue sleeping. Like everybody. Yes. But because I know I need to get things done. Once I hit the shower, I feel like I'm good to go. Would you like, would you say you're a morning person? Yes. Oh yeah. 100%. Okay. That's unlike most creatives. Yeah. All right in you. But congratulations on your new project with Meta. Thank you. So actually I don't have a project with Meta. Meta have a project and they nominated me as one of the content creators of tomorrow. Yes. And yeah, it came as a surprise but a really great surprise. What is that one thing that you put out there that you feel is what made them? You know, just consider you and with Kenna. I mean Kenya is just the two of you. Yeah. You know, the funny part is when I got the email. Yes. I mean by the time they announced, I didn't know anyone for like a month. Oh yeah, I heard. I think there was that level of me, me. Yeah. You know, out of all the people who create content, I guess I never really looked at myself as my content is this. Yes. So when they reached out to me, I think I was in like denial. Uh huh. Up until the day we did the event is when I was like, so I asked the question, I was like, guys, why did you choose me? Yes. And then they explained that, you know, they looked around and had content. And they were like, you know what, this is unique. This is special and we want to highlight. And it wasn't about the numbers. It wasn't about who trends the most. Yes. It was just you as a person, as an individual of the brand. Yes. That's really nice. Yes. Now, you know, correct me if I'm wrong, but you became like really popular after Big Brother. Yes. Really, yes. Big Brother, yes. But is the kind of, you know, reaction rather there, the stardom that you got at the time, something you expected after now they're sure? Big Brother, no. The story for Big Brother, I ended up in Big Brother because I was a reporter at K24 and then I covered post-selection violence. Oh, okay. And I felt like I didn't want to do reporting anymore. And so I quit my job. And at the time a colleague of mine had helped me register for Big Brother. I forgot about it. I did the interview and forgot about it. And then they called and they were like, you know, go. And since I wasn't doing anything, I was like free rent, free food. Why not? I was like, let's do it. Yeah. So when I did it, I think in hindsight I hadn't really, I didn't know what I was going to expect. Like I didn't know that this was going to be like this huge thing and everybody in the continent is going to know you and you're not going to have any privacy. I didn't really think about that. And you know, you don't really think about stuff. When you're young you're supposed to just experience stuff. So I did that and wow. Yes. It was, the reaction after is what was shocking. And I was unprepared for it. Yeah. I read someone that you mentioned, you know you had anxiety now after. Yeah. And it was quite a hard time for you just getting into it. How were you able to now just get over it now and just decide you know what, I'm just going to live my life. So, yeah. So after the show, you know, privacy is something that I, when I hear people say, oh my God I just can't wait to be famous. I feel like you shouldn't pray for it that hard and just let it naturally come because again too much of something if you ask anybody who has fame, whatever level, you just miss being able to do the simple things like I would just want to be able to go to the shop and mind my own business, put on shorts and just whatever I want, which I do by the way. But at the time they used to make it feel like you know you do walk out Kedogo and a blog is writing. The time it was newspapers, not even blogs, to the newspaper that has written a dirty article about you that is not even true. You never met this journalist. You don't know where they got the story from. So eventually I started to notice that I was getting social anxiety, which means I didn't like being around people and then worst still, I was now starting to get anxiety attacks and I did not, most of the time I thought I was dying. Oh wow. Yeah, so I used to end up in the hospital. Really? And then have to go to the hospital. I didn't know anything about anxiety until I started to see a psychologist who then explained to me that you're not dying, you don't have a heart condition. You just really get like in your mind. Yeah, so I've lived knowing that I do get anxiety attacks, especially when I'm like super stressed or I'm anxious or when the anxiety attacks come. But eventually I learned how to deal with it. I had to learn how to put people away. I had to learn how to, you know, separate these issues. I do what I want. I'm not going to let anybody dictate to me how to be or who to be. Yes. But it was a lot and I can bet you good money that at least 70% of your entertainers struggle with anxiety. And that's crazy because you see that's the point as the normal Kenya and rather just the normal person. We never get to know about that because they also don't show us that side. Yeah, nobody's going to come on the internet and it's going to be like, I can't breathe. I can't breathe. No, they're not going to do that. And the people out there, to be honest, even this, I'm not sharing because I want people to feel anything for me. I literally granted you this interview because you asked for it. And I don't really like doing interviews. But at the same time, you tell people what you're going through and they just use it as against you. I know how human beings behave. I've been here long enough to know just keep your private business, your private business. Yeah. But how do you actually get to that point whereby you decide, now I'm doing me, what the society rather, what the people are saying doesn't really matter. How do you get to that point as a person? Yeah. I mean, it's a difficult decision. Well, it's not really difficult. You just have to choose, you know. Yeah. I've never been, I know this guy sound great because I was in a reality show, but my personal life, like even on the reality show, I never used to share my personal life, like people don't know what my parents do or who my sister is. Yeah. It's just my current experience, right? So, I feel like fame, depending on how you consume, if you're a kind of person who's selling your personal life, I don't even know. You're in for it. I pray for you. Yeah. Every day because she had. That's a lot. Yeah. But I want to only put out my skill. Yeah. So, if I'm emceeing or I'm doing a podcast or I'm showcasing my skill. Yes. Then I need media. But if I'm not showcasing my skill, I must private as possible. Yeah. Yeah. Because this, I can't just betray you guys. I kill you guys. I bought a new car. That's none of your business. That's none of your business. Yeah. Okay. Now, of course, you know, Kwanbox, you've been in the media for a very long time. You've been on radio. Well. I mean, you know, for a very long time. And then now this box pod. Yeah. Wherever you decided now these are the conversations you want to have. Yeah. Decide how, how is it going? And are you actually able to monetize that platform or are you just doing it, you know, just to hold insightful conversations? Well, insightful conversations also, but I'm not afraid of money. Okay. So, by the way, thank you for asking about box pod as you can see, we're in our space. We set up a year ago and if you've watched on our YouTube show, you can subscribe to my channel. Yes. It's Kwanbox TV. So I've always had this vision to have a production house that just brings different talents together to just basically, especially young talent. I love working with young people. Young people, yeah. It keeps me energized and at the same time you want to share all the experiences that you've learned. I don't want you to have to go through what I went through for you to be able to shine. If there's a few things I can be able to show you or tell you, 100% I'm going to share. So that's been always my mantra with industry nights which has been running for the past eight years where we've been working with artists or to campus tours that I do, like Kapao. Nia Kapao, yes. Or when we're working with teens, like now we're working with teens and pre-teens and just showing them that as a bash sila zimeku na pombe. Because some of these people are graduating into campus and they are, you know, so that's what I love to do. Now with BoxPod I wanted a space where we can be able to bring all these young people to showcase their skills. And me, I know what kind of entertainment or what kind of content I want to put out but I'm not the only one who puts out content. And there's another guy who's sitting at a room who's just saying, I just need an opportunity. And we want to be able to sit down with this person and create the content and then be able to monetize it. So that's why we set up BoxPod Studios. So it's going on very well. I mean, we can see it online. Guys, make sure you subscribe. Very interesting conversations. You will have a lot to see. And that's just the first show, by the way. We've got more shows coming up with different types of content. You're going to be seeing new faces. So very, very exciting. Now that you've done this for that long time, you're getting into new ventures. What are those two lessons that you feel have come a long way for you? Consistency is key and patience. Okay. In fact, those are the two mantras. I believe when you're younger, there's something called youthful exuberance. And especially now, I see it a lot where someone is like, how can I open my own studio? Yes. And living in your parent's house, you've not even learnt how to move out. So even if I give you the step by step, you're not yet grown enough to get into those shoes. But most people don't want to start from scratch. You just want to I tried this thing for one month but it's not working. So that's youthful exuberance. Patience is something you grow into and I'm still growing into it. I'm still learning from experience that someone will tell you they'll pay you in a month's time and they might end up paying you six months later. And you just have to not be like, that guy niki patanana ya kwa still takini ya zampigat. Onu jo how many times I've said that. But then we have a whole show coming up of my personal experiences and how many times I've been played out here of people telling you they'll pay you stress letter at the centre but after a while of doing this you know how to mitigate yourself you know not to wait for this payment for like one month there's a possibility it could be paid even a year from now. Am I going to get stressed the whole time so no so patience and consistency. There's nothing you're ever going to build and it's just a even a cake. You know it needs patience. It does. There's a part where you're needing and you finish needing you can just take it and put it in the oven for a few minutes I love for a few minutes in the kabondia oxides do you talk or whatever guys are having baked and then after that put spices do you need any put it in the oven shape it sit there wait for it to cook so patience is important now if you're going to be patient to the cake surely even online I see guys struggling to build the numbers on the place follow me what am I following what are you giving me so eventually even when you have the audience like how Jeff Kiria content with Kiria 2 numbers you guys come you guys come listen then we're listening there's nothing to give babies for content right exactly so I think those for me are the two mantras and I actually feel like you know the generations especially they don't have that patience one month on mimi nimi shindwa mbona sjuya 99 but I mean there's a lot of that that has been put in there I mean generation Z take note of this you know from someone who has been doing it for a while to be honest I'm still in Gen Z thank you so much and also and also this is I'd love to say this I don't think there's one way and this is really messed up English saying which is there's many ways to skin a cut I think you can understand just how messed up that phrase is on a realistic level but let's use the phrase as it is there's many ways to skin a cut what that means is that there's many ways to do something so this has worked for me it doesn't mean it should work for you and I can't prescribe or say you guys Gen Z ABCDE for example I was having a conversation with someone the other day they were saying you know Gen Z are lazy and I said are they lazy or are they efficient with their time see in other generations for Gen Z the idea was hard work is I know every single hour of your day must be utility grinding and Gen Z is looking and saying I could spend one hour doing that then I could spend another hour doing so if this person can be able to do that whole task within one hour right are they lazy that they are spending the rest of the seven hours playing video games no or they'd rather utilize that time having human connections so that is important to say that everybody there's different ways to do something but with freedom comes great responsibility so because you are efficient right then be result oriented yeah right so just because you know you're supposed to be at an office somewhere and you say you can do that task in one hour it's not about the task it's the result so some people just want to show I showed them I was there for an hour don't be that guy just be the guy for results did I make it happen and if you can be able to do it in 10 seconds imagine but just be result oriented you must see it that you get it to the end yeah enough that you hear is that something you'd probably want to tell your 20-year-old and what's that be patient just be consistent well I've always been consistent I'll get it done I'll not quit on myself but patients I would have saved myself a whole lot of time if I was just patient I would have spent less time worrying is this thing and even till today is something that's why I said it's a practice patients I don't think I think you grow into it slowly slowly you know but it just becomes typical easy take it easy and I think what I tell my 20-year-old now is don't be stagnant don't be I think your 20s are for exploration yeah find out what's happening in Tanzania find out what's happening in Bujumbura it's a bus bus drive away to make a tour but to me it's like I'm going to die it's like I'm going to die it's like I'm going to die and I'm going to die yeah so explore like go to Bujumbura find a contact nowadays on social media you can connect to so many like minded people you're a photographer yeah but in the bus you end up taking pictures of Bujumbura and then meet that guy there I don't know where I'm using Bujumbura and that's hard to say let me say waga dugu that's even worse go there you know learn a language enjoy some food on the street open your mind and I think Kenya right now needs a lot of open minded people sitting in this crab bowl you find we have crab mentality we crab in a bowl mentality which is the crab that is trying to go out you're trying to pull it down because you have a scarcity mentality and there's enough for everybody the problem is you're just fishing in a place where everybody is fishing right or the person you're trying to sell to atahia ane ane akone yu tilapia you know atahia nifisha man so wuna se mimi wama zi mo kenya waa to support wuna wu na wu zia fisha man samaki you know so yeah if you're in your 20s right now I want you to pack a bag and say I'm going to this destination you know and make it happen and go and it shows that kuna yambiha kama kukus na yambiha kukus na ume ume ume ume ume ume ume umo moka ino tina ni scarcity mentality kumoka kutravelsi ki tu ina need do ina need wuki kuna vision kuna ki tu ini wa nta kufa ina you gonna make it happen but if all you're thinking about na maze nana do niki kuna ki sumbili maze nina yi bagia jaba yafi nina kisha ada Tenbo ni kufiti But the you will only travel inside your mind Nya I wish us growing up at the time We had like such platforms you could watch such things people you know, just advising us and telling us how to go about it It was so scarce No it was called books guys you read books You just read books The first traveling I ever did I was, I had traveled to Sydney Australia just really shantaram I traveled to India If you read Shantaram, the first couple of chapters when he describes landing in India I haven't been to India until today, one of my very good friends just travelled and I was telling her Tell me the sets and sounds and she's like it's exactly like Shantaram So if you want to open your mind that you don't have the money, just read books Read, not tweets, books Yes, for sure Now, let's talk about you Let me ask, is a cheat in a deal breaker for you? Hells Really? I feel like I'm in a relationship, I feel like I'm in a past relationship I can't talk about anything, I feel like that's a relationship I feel like, honestly, I'm in a place where I'm just like, what's your name, Jesus Christ? Even don't Nairobi have a problem, that is how I feel like right now relationships are as confused as possible Right, so when you're in a relationship, you have to have a good relationship When you promise to be a baby Exactly Now, you can create up your name but you don't know the baby You can have a wedding at your sister's You can have a wedding at your sister's You can have a Christmas night at your sister's You can have a nice marriage at your sister's You know there's so much ties That's the truth You can't be together at the stage, you can't be together We're friends 3 months later, you guys now are in a real relationship Tungu yosu kumilipata na kwa stage sikila, mumsasa wne ishiku ake The next thing, one year later, konam toi na boli apili Bakata na kutia, aki piksimu, mama na piga Mama, na tadri mama ya ko So when you think about the relationships from that aspect Ata ku break up, see kitu rai, see kitu ngumu He has no ties, he doesn't know your dad anything Your brother na monangai lesi kumodyam na watchbol Muli watchbol yuku esto, evil too So ame miti de mwingini, ame move on Akunja kwa mbea, see msi dai ni Mental health mazi, unami pati anxiety You make me, you bring it for me bad energy I'm not growing, I need to spread my wings Kai, 2 kids later You see this, you're throwing God's name in vain I have to live So ame kwa cha apu Sosa wne na kwa mbe mama ko nini Unamo bian tu shikili awa toto chande nitaftibwana So when I think like that I feel like the fabric of what is to hold society together haiko So when that confused space trying to figure out what's next The church and the government here try and tell people Let's go back, that the society is like let's move forward So in that confusion nimesema I'm going to date myself I'm going to date for Jesus Christ, my Lord, God bless me So sir, what do you think we should now do Because the society wants to move forward The church wants us to remain there But it's sort of impossible Nimi nimesema Relationship in St. Paul told the church He said marriage is not a mass But it is good So wneza changua na wneza decide So nimi nime decide wa chatu nifanyu watu zingine Iko tu sawapia na jua So that's why I don't like talking about relationships Because I'm like I don't have a positive peace to see It's okay because there are people who are in the same situation as you Maybe next week you might find Na jua ii dunia na kwa crazy Next week wneza patapia nimesema Oh my God Oh my God Now these are beautiful Never say never For sure Now Kwanboks because you deal with the youths and these young kids a lot Mental health issues like you just mentioned Is quite on the rise Especially for men I feel like we really do not talk about men a lot I mean talking about men Sorry? I mean talking about men Yes What is it Something that you'd like to tell a man That is just going through it all And they're not even able to speak up Because they've just been told Kwa ma na ume What should you do like to tell that man Kuna mege ni mudadyo mochachi Yes This is what I tell any human being Right You know The one thing you know for a fact is like The one thing a human being who came here Kwa ii dunia wna jwa ni tadini Nia You need fact Yata kifanya ni nima backflip Sapa suju me umoka wna sota The one thing all of you have in common ground ni tadini One Namba two wne wlinge ii wwal Datakamu li kwa triplets Muli nge one by one Nataka wuna penda na namtua ko keyaji Yata muzikwe pamoja kudedi ni Atakamu tashutiwa pamoja na bulet moja Ibtik utrata iita kwa moja moja Right What I'm trying to say is that Even if we love you as much as possible And we do an amazing thing Like you save the world and you create You figure out world hunger Mias And we create a statue for you And the sky just painted your name Trust me, after five days, ja kusaho We think of self-fast everything else. I like the Bible and it says love your neighbor the way you love yourself. So what would they say? I'd say you have to fast love yourself. I don't think you can love anybody if you don't love yourself. So even that man who's been told. I mean man, who's telling you, you're the one who says man. You're the head. How can someone create rules for you? The one who create rules that make your existence and the people that you're leading are beautiful existence. If you're letting the next person tell you, you're supposed to be like this, you're supposed to be like that, you're supposed to be like that, then there's going to be a problem. So if you're feeling that the shoe you are wearing is tight, listen to the foot, it's telling you you need another shoe. You need to fit, you need to. I was itemena kiatwenye na kufinya. So I can't tell you man or woman or child be like this, but I can tell you fight for yourself. Fight for yourself. Like I fight for myself every day, every day. Yes, I love so many people and I support them and I'm like, I think I try to be a good sibling, I try to be a good sister. I try to be a good colleague. But yo, I cannot love you more than I love myself. So I try as much as possible to fight for myself. So I'd urge everybody fight for yourself and see how better you would be to other people. For sure. Thank you Kwanbox. Sita and Iliut, sita se macho chote, that was really good. I don't know, I feel like we don't really get to see this side of you so many times. I feel like, hey, ma wizdo mume rusha rusha. Sasa nini nadiwa nani asiki zangisho yangu, kusabu mimi nakuwa nga tu wizdo. I don't know what a niliutwa wizdo miti. In wizdo mili kwenu jatia. Thank you so much Kwanbox. Thanks Miskitinji. And hey, before, relax. Now it's my time to take over. So Miskitinji. Yes. Tell us a bit about yourself. Oh come on. The table's time. What I'm trying to say. SPM buzz muna fana kazi fitisana by the way we see you. And I think come on and watch SPM buzz. You know what it is. Shout out to the team that does it. And it's no plaga ojani lipa. Namesi apabe ni promistisha to SPM buzz. So please, play along. But for real though, muna fana kazi fitisana. And you should be proud of yourselves. I like that the team is young. I like that you're vibrant. I like that you're shaking things up. And keep at it. Thank you Kwanbox. Asante sana. All right. Shokran. Hey, I'll judge you are COVID. Eh? Apana. Okay. All right guys. That was Sheila Kwanbox. Thank you so much for watching. Make sure you leave a comment down below. What is it that you've picked from this interview? I'm sure there's something. Tell us no down below on the comment section. Thank you so much for watching buzz with stars. My name is Miski Pinji. Until next time, it's goodbye.