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You said you totally should Co-host on the 404 as well. It's your story. Don't don't be selling Bacalar and and Ariel short either. I Will sell them long Let's go along. We got Apple pay experiences to share with you We both went out and bought something with it, but let's start off with the headlines iOS 8.1 came out today that brings back camera roll Which apparently a lot of you are very excited about Enables handoffs of text and phone calls to OS 10 Yosemite and enables Apple pay the payment system is set up in the Passbook settings does not store credit card info but creates tokens that are used to identify the phone's owner Near field communication is then used to transfer the token to a credit card terminal Then conducts the transaction entirely with the bank This is a little different than how things like Google and Amazon work personal information is not stored on the phone 220,000 locations in the US can now accept Apple pay. It's not a lot as well as a bunch of apps as well We'll talk more about Apple pay in a bit Freakin Apple Let's talk about some Google stuff Android police reports that are forthcoming update to the Gmail app in Android 5.0 Lollipop We'll be able to handle email accounts from other providers like Yahoo and Outlook Users will be able to swipe the screen between accounts or choose them from a drop-down menu. What's set up? The accounts will still be separate from the users Google accounts So no forwarding or pop access setup will be necessary. Yeah, that's kind of cool actually because I use Gmail On my Nexus 7 and then I I could pipe my Yahoo mail there But I don't I use a Yahoo mail app and it's it's not as nice as having one app pulling in everything So I would like to be able to use the Gmail app that way I know I could use it, but there's a bunch of other mail apps you can get for Android But that's kind of nifty The verges sources confirm a Forbes report that Microsoft will launch its own wearable fitness band within the next few weeks In fact sources say it will be stocked in time for sale during the holidays while it will tell time The device is more of a fitness tracker than a watch It'll focus on things like tracking your steps your heart rate your calories burned and it will also supposedly support Windows Phone iOS and Android so cross-platform It's like your personal trainer that spots you they get call it as spot watch or something. Yeah wait No, you beat me to the spot watch joke. No, I apologize Giggle over for us. That's Spotify Has announced a family option plan that offers up to four extra accounts at a 50% discount The accounts are under one billing statement, but each family member gets their own Spotify account So no more confusing modeling of your listening history recommendations and playlists Existing accounts can be linked under the new plan spotify says the new feature will roll out globally over the coming weeks Family could mean co-workers roommates and or chat realmers, right when your family you listen together When you listen here your family So that's all you know I actually have a family plan with Ardeo and the Spotify one is just a slight bit cheaper now Like a tight like a sliver And my wife's been wanting to move to Spotify anyway, so we may end up moving this may be the thing that does it Giga home also reports Apple reported fourth quarter revenue of forty two point one billion dollars net income of eight point five billion dollars That works out to a dollar forty two per share Carl icon The results beat expectations from analysts who are expecting revenue just under forty billion dollars And that would have worked out to a dollar thirty per share 39.27 million iPhones shipped versus thirty three point eight million a year ago, and that's with the launch of iPhone 6 in there Thirteen point three million iPads shipped versus fourteen point one million last year. That's not with the new iPads 5.5 million max shipped compared to four point six million last year, so a nice little rise there for the max The BBC reports forty thousand e-sports fans filled souls world cup stadium to watch the 2014 League of Legends World Championship this weekend between the Star Horn Royal Club from China and Samsung white Thousands of more around the world filled up movie theaters to watch the match for the record Samsung white beat the Star Horn Royal Club to win one million dollars. That's a lot of money Then forty thousand people I Don't think well, you'll probably get that at the World Series, but it won't be that much more at the World Series this week It's crazy Time now for some news from you. These are things submitted at our subreddit daily tech news show dot reddit comm We got lots of folks out there in the audience doing this So go join them daily tech news show dot reddit comm get in there and submit some stuff do some voting Captain Kipper passed along the giga ohm report that IBM is reportedly paying a company global foundries $1.5 billion but not to acquire them instead global foundries is getting paid to take over IBM's commercial chip making unit Which has been losing up to 1.5 million dollars a year IBM missed sales and profit expectations for the most recent quarter Earning a profit of three dollars and sixty-eight cents per share, which was 14 percent below the four dollars and 32 cents that had been expected That's crazy. Okay metal freak submitted the slash that posting that OS ten you 70 Sends a lot of data back to Apple and there doesn't seem to be a way to shut it off a github repository says it provides a corpus of network Communications automatically sent to Apple by OS ten you 70 among the info cent is when the user selects about this map and search terms entered Safari no matter what search engine is left is defaults It's unclear if all privacy options were selected in the OS and what the network communication might be used for Yeah, and I just saw Molly would tweet that there's a wired story out talking about your spotlight searches Phoning home as well because they do bring in web searches now So a lot lot lot to figure out about what is actually going on usually when we have these phone home stories It ends up being a lot less data being phoned home and a lot less serious than then at first it appears Everybody kind of goes crazy, but this github repository looks pretty interesting and it's worth checking out Evil ninja 01 tipped us off to a stop the cap calm posting claiming South Korea is about to get 10 gigabit per second broadband It's not quite that good for the South Koreans digital trends reports SK broadband is set to unveil the service at the 2014 ITU plenipotentiary conference today So they'll be demonstrating 10 gigabit per second internet, but it's not actually launching in South Korea today The service would be able to transfer one gigabyte of data in 0.8 seconds There's no word when the service will actually be available to customers and don't forget Bell labs showed off 10 gigabits per second over Copperwire back in July South Korea though does have an average internet connection speed of 24.6 megabits per second ahead of number two Hong Kong with 15.7 megabits per second so it's no wonder that Samsung light won the eSports competition They've got good training grounds so fast Along with this even even a half. All right So Ernie v 23 flagged us to a guardian report that the 12th doctor has a new mission Teach children to code a new doctor. Hope who oh very funny Easy for me to say Anyway, like I was saying poorly a new doctor who online game debut is Wednesday, October 22nd on the CBBC website And includes voice narration by Peter quality who portrays the current incarnation on television The free web game is aimed at children 6 to 12 using puzzles based on programming concepts to help the doctor rebuild a Dalek Don't rebuild a dog. It's a horrible. No, it's probably fine. They're just learning the code It's the eyebrows and another quick note from metal freak It looks like the Chrome OS devs have changed their mind on ex2 2 3 4 support networking world reports the team changed its mind It plans to re-enable support in files app immediately according to a post in the dev channel They say quote it will come back just like it was before and we're working to get it into the next stable channel release so really actually one of these a good example of Devs sensibly saying we want to propose doing this and then the reaction wasn't Unfriendly or hostile. It was just you know, it was just strong like no we'd rather you did not do that Please do not do that and the devs going. Oh, okay. Well, then we will not do that like this is actually the way It's all supposed to work right here It's pretty cool and that is a look at the headlines All right, Apple pay 220,000 US locations by the way, there are about 8 million retail locations that take credit cards This is a very small slice But McDonald's Subway Whole Foods Chevron Texco Radio Shack Pekko Panera if you like your muffins, perhaps you'll use it there Macy's and of course Apple stores It will work with apps and in fact Apple's already starting to spin this of like most people are going to be using it for apps That's what it's going to be best for And it will work with things like Groupon hotel tonight lift open table if you're paying for for a food member open table Let you pay for your bill through there through their app staples target stuff like that also Getting getting in there with iOS 8.01 as we mentioned is the iCloud library camera roll and continuity Now we might want to talk about a little bit continuity because that's interesting But Apple pay is the big one. It's supported by Visa Mastercard and American Express You can use cards for many of those you can use cards from Bank of America capital one Chase city in Wells Fargo now that may cause some confusion because if your Visa is not from a bank that Supports Apple pay these the fact that visa supports it doesn't mean it will automatically be supported and in fact if as I found out your Brand of credit card Visa Mastercard American Express whatever is from a bank that supports Apple pay But it's a corporate card. It will not be accepted as well because one of my cards are like, oh, nope We don't we don't do that. They're not doing corporate cards right now. So Not every card you're gonna use is gonna work fact Ryan block I think he said none of his cards as well. It actually worked which was pretty crazy It's also Gonna be hard for you to find a place in the real world to use this Walmart's not doing it. They say that that's just they're gonna set up their own system Because they don't see that many people with high-end iPhones coming into their stores Starbucks is doing it in the app, but not in the store, which I find a little odd It was fairly easy to set up you had to load iOS 8.0 1 and or 8.1 then you had to go into settings and Set it up in the Apple in the passcode settings That's how you get it going and start adding your cards there And then you go out in the real world and you try to find somewhere to use it Where'd you go? I was doing read and setting up my card I also ran into some difficulties setting up the thing because I had a capital one card and says use the capital one wallet app And so I click the button, but I don't have an app So it just gave me a white screen didn't send me to the app store to go get the app So I fixed that took care of that took my my Took an enterprising reporter from CNET over to do a read we took our phones and We purchased some just random stuff I bought a pineapple pineapple because I like pineapple makes me very happy and so put my phone to the little machine and There it goes as it works. It's like that the a little ad there goes the card on your screen You hold it your finger down onto the touch ID verify the purchase and Then the weird thing is you want to leave because it says everything's done But you have to hit the okay button on the point of service machine, but that's it You're done was ridiculously simple. Yeah, mine was a little bit different I had one card that wouldn't be recognized at all was corporate card as I mentioned Sword and laser has a card and wouldn't take that one. That's probably good for Veronica The other thing was I had one card where it wouldn't take the security code off the back now that card is actually fine I mean, I've used it recently for something. So I'm not sure what's up with that but Once I got you know, I got I got a card that worked in there I went out and Whole Foods was the nearest business that took it to me McDonald's was the second So that was my backup plan. I'll try it at Whole Foods if it doesn't work there I'll go to McDonald's so I went and I bought four oranges and a chocolate bar Walk up to the the counter and I say well, can I pay with my phone and she's like Oh, you're the first person to do this hold on So while she's turning around and getting someone else I see because I have already got passbook up, right? I see that it says would you like to pay with this card and I say, okay, it says press the Press the your your thumbprint on touch ID So I do it and it says all right And then it says please wait on the terminal and then she turns around by then and I'm like I think it already did something She's like, oh, I thought maybe you had to tap on it somewhere or something Whole and then she looks she's like oh and then she presses a button on her side and it was done And there were like three people gathered around waiting for the bugs or the weirdness or the instructions Like a totally intuitive. I did my part. She did her part. She already knew how to do her part We were out of there. It took three times as long because we were expecting it to go wrong But if we had not been expecting it to go wrong, it would have been like that Yeah The physical I'm located in New York. There's like PC magazine the building seen that's in the building ZD I'm pretty sure this Dwayne Reed probably don't like maybe 30 of us trying out this stupid little minimum purchase thing I'm like, oh, let's buy this let's buy that so they were very well prepared for us They they weren't weirded out by the fact we're using our phones and and let's not I'm sure everyone remembers that Google wall It's been around for a long time tap to pay has been on credit cards as well for a long time Which also wears out people if you have a pay pass on your card. So yeah, Apple's not the first but it works Yeah, well and and that's a good point. I've used Google Wallet. My wife uses Google Wallet and it works Well most of the time but the first time we ever used Google Wallet was not like this the first time we used Google Wallet It was sort of like oh wait. You have to hold a closer. No and pull down here. Okay, hold on Oh, you need to log in. Did you not log in on your Google Wallet? Cuz cuz here's the difference Google is handling your payment information Apple is not makes it a lot simpler. All Apple's doing is saying we have asked your bank for a token, right? And and it's not the same but it's similar as if you had one of those little one-time Or our two-factor authentication dongles, right? It's just basically saying we're asking for token We don't want to know who you are. We don't want to know your credit card We're gonna store that in touch ID. So it's not even stored on your hard drive We'll never see it and then when you go to pay we'll send that token through NFC to the terminal the terminal go Oh, that's the token and send it on to the bank the bank does all the processing it makes it simpler Which makes it less bug-proof prone. It also means more privacy whereas the Google Wallet has to go Well, we have to make sure that you're the right person not only with the token But also because we're gonna process it through Google Wallet We're gonna handle the transaction that also means that Google has to file as a bank They have to like qualify under federal rules and do all those kind of regulatory stuff apples And for all intents and purposes, we're just turning your phone into a dongle We're turning it into that tap-to-pay device Yeah, it could be like I think discoveries to have it They used to have their pass the little pay pass thing and they had a little key chain version of it So just just making a device that you already have it's weird because beyond the Apple pay page You see the devices that are supported for all the things it's iPhone 6 to 6 plus They can do in app and in stores if you want to do that with your iPad Air 2 which would look ridiculous in the store You're not allowed to do that because there's no NFC can't do that the mini 3 and I was looking up about the 5s You could do this with a 5s as long as you have an Apple watch Yeah, and a 5c it just it seems a little strange that there's even though it has this extra touch ID There must be something different about the hardware or they're just limiting the availability of this kind of service To see how it goes over time, but it's it's really limited to people who have iPhone 6 and 6 plus if you want the in-store thing that's nifty and everything But I think this is going to cause a lot of in-app purchases Which means Apple's going to see 30% right there whenever people buy stuff So they're gonna be really freaking happy when we see their next quarter and it's oh look everybody bought subscriptions or whatever Yeah, I mean I already have one person who works for a credit card company saying that their primary link from Apple To the from Apple to their network spiked approximately sixteen hundred percent people are using this they are trying it out, but that said It is a limited number of people in a limited number of locations Relatively speaking to the number of credit cards that they get used worldwide You would I think you'd expect a spike on the first day and this this is a pretty big spike for it sounds like but it also I Got really excited over square when they did geofencing and they say you know and you could go into member You could go into the coffee shop in Petaluma And you would just walk in you wouldn't have to take the phone out of your pocket It was even better than Apple pay because it just said oh you're here. You've been here before They'll recognize your face You know and you just say yeah, I'm Tom you pay You know you could dispute the charge if you needed to there were security precautions But it when everything worked it was the easiest thing possible it didn't catch on because not everybody Wanted to use the right thing on the side of the merchant right to make that work Now this is easier to implement because the terminals are all supposed to be put in any way that can handle this It's a matter of whether they want to go with Apple on this It's easier than setting up Apple store because Apple's not taking a cut as far as I know right you heard anything different I think I was just They get a cut on the transaction fee itself not necessarily the purchase like I was thinking with the other Bank says we process this many Apple pays And we collected this much transaction free from the merchant will cut you in on that But they don't get a cut of the purchase that you pay right So so it's coming out of the credit card company not out of the not out of the merchant or the customer Okay, that makes that makes sense But this is not gonna be good for most people in most parts of the world the reason Google set up Google wallet as a Funds processor is that gives them more flexibility it may cause some more bugs in here but you go to Anywhere in Africa and suddenly Apple pays just not gonna work because most people don't have credit cards You have to be able to have a credit card to make this work I mean that's gonna be a problem for a lot of people in the US Alone not to mention in large parts of the world. So I don't see Apple pay conquering the world I see it becoming very common Possibly, but it's you know, it's and maybe it popularizes paying with your phone and make some of these other Efforts finally get more traction because of that But this is not the thing that the transforms finances worldwide for sure Yeah, I'm taking this probably gonna revolutionize like So for purchases when you're sitting there, you're like, oh look at that. I just have to push that okay good I didn't have to get my wallet my wallet's way on the nightstand. I'm not gonna know and and that's you know And that's that's what Apple has said like we think apps in app purchases and app purchases are gonna be the way and you know It's kind of cool that OpenTable supports it because your app is your way of purchasing in real life It with OpenTable. I haven't you ever used OpenTable for that I'm not sure how many restaurants are on board with that But that could be kind of a secret way for for Apple pay to get into things where the merchant doesn't even have to Do anything they just joined some kind of app Ecosystem like that, right? I've yet to use that but I probably would have that fear of like Ditching you know like you can buy out the products in the store with your phone and people get like caught like you're stealing our stuff Like no I think I have that fear out ways that usage for me right now for that kind of stuff Have you never done that with an Apple store? It is kind of weird to just be walking out like that ever talking to anybody I don't frequent the stores very often So like maybe I'll try I'll try to find an OpenTable restaurant that does it and and then have to explain it like no No, sir. I did not die in Dash. I used my thumb. No, well, they know they they can they can tell if you've paid It's just like leaving the money on the table, right? They don't really know until they go look but they get a good idea It's kind of weird though. It will have Uber paying with Uber or paying cabs now have apps You could you could pay through Apple pay that way. It's you know, it's it's It's a it's got a lot of different ways to go. I am though initially impressed in the ease of use I don't think that is a predictor of how widely it gets adopted necessarily But it's definitely got a wow factor me and the three grocery store employees that were gathered around we're all like Wow, that was amazing. That was easy, you know, like we were all pretty impressed with it All right, let's check the calendar real quick Set your watch market calendars the one phone from one plus will be available for pre-order October 27th for one hour only That hour is 11 a.m. Eastern Standard Time Please convert to your local time interested buyers can prepare their pre-order now via the one-plus site to give themselves a Little leg up, but you must log back in on October 27th in the magic hour to confirm If this sounds cumbersome remember this phone was originally going to be invite only they've done invite only sales before So now they're like, you don't have to be invited in but you only got one hour Yahoo and Verizon released their earnings reports Tuesday the 21st Marissa Meyer is expected to have a lot to say about Yahoo regarding that tomorrow's also the giga home structure connect Conference in San Francisco focused on the Internet of Things and the quantified self and down the 101 in San Jose The 21st of the 23rd is the quick books connect conference How about a pick of the day I as this one I like this one because it has two things you like raspberry pi and xbmc. It's from Titus James He says I know I'm a little late, but I'm just catching up on podcasts I wouldn't normally dredge up stories mentioned six days ago However, I've been in search of the best home theater PC solution for almost a decade I've tried and owned everything Roku Apple TV Google TV Chromecast and of course simply hooking up my PC to my TV Which I as and I talked about last week the best solution though came in an unlikely package the raspberry pi With Cody let's xbmc now called Cody obviously a PC is the best solution, but computers are big They're loud. They're hot. They're expensive and when it comes to the UI it can be a bit clunky the raspberry pi with xbmc Raspbmc is the official name gives you all the power imports you need in an affordable package I've got a Panasonic VR a smart TV in the house So I simply hooked the pi to the TV by HDMI and it automatically integrates with the TV remote It's a little long-winded, but this video goes into all the details and we'll throw that in the show notes as well It's a YouTube video. This is my first time riding in but I just had to share the solution because I never hear it mentioned And it's incredibly brilliant You can run 1080p video with all the features of xbmc all from an affordable raspberry pi that has such a tiny footprint Hope you find this as interesting as I did really xbmc has some issues with some users For some users. I've noticed some people just find it hard to set up But if you're not one of those people if you looked at xbmc, you're like, yeah, we can do a little configuration. Whatever. It's easy This this is the way to go. Don't you think? Yeah, I was clicking the video like is it my long-winded video on how to set this up because I did an episode about this of some other past life of mine, but It's a great solution. I figured you would know how to do this Yeah If you're quite tech savvy and you want to know how to do something like that It's it's pretty simple to do if you're willing to take the time There's a lot of other boxes out that you can check out that can do similar things that can handle the same kinds of File formats xbmc is a great streamer and it's very good at handling online video as well But again, it takes a little bit of work So yeah, it's a great point and it's a great front end But you probably need to serve or somewhere in the house still feeding that if you have other content Good stuff send your picks to feedback at daily tech news show calm keeping coming We love hearing from you and you can find my picks at daily tech news show comm slash picks our messages of the day Kick off with Glenn Huff and Jason in Stockton both writing in with a tip for two-factor authentication for those without cell phones Glenn says for the non cell phone crowd a Google voice number is treated as a cell number and can both originate and receive SMS texts for every other so for every site other than Google that could suffice for second factor access by SMS He's got to have an internet connection for that to work But it's a good one if you're on an internet connected computer, you've got a phone number, right? You can use Skype the same way actually Yeah, Google voice is free Skype got to pay for that's the difference right Hey guys says Christian a few shows ago You were discussing why Apple's first 5k display was the iMac And I think the true reason has finally been revealed while trying to justify the cost to myself I discovered that the 5k iMac does not support target display mode meaning it can't be used as an external display After posting about this on Google plus. I got the following comment No current cable has enough bandwidth to display 5k at 60 frames per second Thunderbolt 2 maxes out at 20 gigabytes per second But of course my calculation doesn't include any overhead and there isn't much scope for that That means we need new ports and new cabling to make this work I guess they could technically use two Thunderbird 2 ports with two cables and divide the screen into but yeah Let's just wait till it actually works Christian says a little more research led me to this article on Mac rumors Which backs up the theory that a 5k display requires DisplayPort 1.3 or Thunderbolt 3 Which in turn probably won't be available until next year I think it's likely that Apple introduced 5k Thunderbolt displays at the same time They refresh the MacBook Pro line with Thunderbolt 3 support So in short there's no good way for existing Macs to drive a 5k display Which means the only way to do it right now is to build the display into the computer which leads us back to the iMac Yeah, I was reading that article in my spare time. I just like this is really cool. What about what about target mode? What about this and the idea of cost-effectiveness actually it was a Marco Armand post I was reading That's what it was and he was comparing his Mac Pro to the iMac and explaining that if he wanted to drive the monitor from Dell first the monitor cost $2,500 which is the cost of the iMac and You'd need to have two display ports or two Thunderbolt Cables to actually drive it which we kind of hackish for it to work as you're splitting the screen and you're hoping it sings up Nicely and neat but you never know so this is this is an oddball move by Apple to go Here's 5k why skip the five? I don't really know but it makes it impossible to duplicate for now Yeah, I I Bet somebody'll come up with a way to hack in and make this thing work But any hack you're gonna do is going to risk stability and reliability at which point I think the most important thing that Christians saying here and I totally agree is we're gonna get that 5k cinema display When Thunderbolt 3 is out and when Apple finally puts out machines that have Thunderbolt 3, right? That just makes perfect sense to me I got several messages about Netflix and HBO. We've been talking a lot about why is it that HBO in Sweden? HBO Nordic has not been nearly as popular as Netflix there They're both available over the internet without a cable subscription got an interesting one from Scott here California I think I'm a little to your north up here and The reason why I'm calling is I have a thought on why Netflix might not perform HBO and Being the father of two teenagers right now. I can tell you that neither one of them are interested in HBO However, they both love watching American death vampire diaries teenage stuff cartoon my five-year-old watches cartoons on Netflix So Three members of my household could care less about regular TV could care less about HBO But they all watch Netflix. So anyway at the huge market that HBO does not have and I just think that might be part of the answer. All right, thanks I'm Matthias who is in the in the market for HBO Nordic Made the same point kids basically all his friends who have kids have Netflix because their kids section is vastly superior to HBO Is according to him and HBO has a very small kids offering Matthias also backed up the fact that the technology wasn't working out of the gate with HBO Nordic the subtitling was bad and The launch just was was muffled in the in the way that they sold it and the price Michelle wrote in and said I'm a paying subscriber of both via play and Netflix and tried a month of HBO Nordic I think the core of the problem of HBO here in Sweden is the poor user experience the apps I tried Xbox 360 windows and iOS felt like they weren't finished too many bugs The most annoying one was the one saying my connection didn't work bugs aside The apps had many annoying things if you started to watch a new show it started automatically from the season's last episode Why would why would you want to start from the last episode the app doesn't save the episode if you stopped it in the Middle and the image quality is not good either or at least not as good as Netflix or via play the overall user experience is horrible I don't see any point in paying for it So there you go combination of lots of bugs in the system and not really friendly to the way a Cord cutter would want to watch something combined with kids. I as you guys you've got a kid They want to watch Netflix or HBO So far he's not asked to watch HBO I did try to watch Game of Thrones once with him in the room and I was like no bad idea And he's the other thing about this you have to have you have to have consistency And it's got to be really easy and if Netflix or whatever serves you using for a kid I mean if you think you're impatient as an adult that kid is crazy impatient They have no perspective whatsoever. This is the worst thing that's ever happened to them that is buffering This is literally the worst thing because they've never experienced life So yeah, it better work. You're gonna be dealing the very unhappy person Netflix my boy. All right. Well, that is it for this episode of daily tech news show. Thank you, mr. I as Aktar Man is great. Yeah, haven't you two weeks in a row now. I couldn't be luckier. Yeah Get don't get used to this but try to get used to this Maybe I'll do this much more often. 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See you then Done Yeah Well played That was great Four oranges and a chocolate bar versus did you buy an actual pineapple like a Cubes of them as the funny thing like pineapple chunks. Yeah, okay, but he bought a kid cat and Was like I was that like an apple and Google joke like So stupid should have gotten like a lollipop and an apple because he got a kid cat It's like I didn't think about it at all somebody's like did you buy apples? I'm like, no actually I bought oranges hilariously enough. Yeah, it's a person a lot of missed opportunity for real life Ponery I guess I guess that's the name of the show is apples and oranges Bang yes it right now Everything's taken me a little longer today cuz my first time back in the studio for a week But but so far everything's working well, I never took this streaming machine to Mavericks even so it's very stable It's always good when something works like it stays in this in a stasis forever for me Yeah, till I'm forced eventually I'll be forced I Sort of wonder if I'll be forced to actually upgrade the operating system or if I'll just have to buy a new computer because Things won't work. No, there's no port for this. Yeah, exactly. Oh, I need Thunderbolt 3. I Have my 4k camera So to follow up by as You can let me know offline if you want that how often would you like to be on the show? I gotta figure out my Monday schedules. Yeah Today was it yeah, we'll talk. We'll definitely talk what works. I'll send you an email because we'd love to have you back Thank you. I really have fun doing this I just I accidentally volunteered to do something and I was like, oh right and there's a video component And then I have to write something And they're like, oh, yeah, you're gonna test something brand new at the same time So I did not plan my calendars correctly. I have my personal calendar of my work calendar But I have them both up at the same time So That and then I'll you'll see how to for me Tom on how to unify your calendars if I do this again Yeah, we it doesn't have to be a Monday I think we were just doing Mondays because it worked well for you, but yeah, we can talk Cool, I'm gonna I'm gonna go to my desk and try to do some things and all right, man Thanks for being honest. Good having you. Yeah, great being out. Thank you so much. Yes. Cheers. Go enjoy your pineapple chunks So we have a wealth of excellent titles today, of course, excellent Top hook at it right now is Tom buys no orange with Apple pay Which is really on par with the Daily Tech news show in terms of title clarity We have pineapple pay One I really like from Carl, which is who's coding All right, that's good Dr. Ho Man I hate after a reboot I Have to fill all the ID three tags out again So hard it's the worst World What else we got the one I did like a lot was Orange is the new chocolate, but I just like that. It's probably a little too Yeah, it took me a second and I actually made the purchase so But I do like a bunch of them All right, I'm almost to the point I mean Tom buys an orange with Apple pay is the whole show so That's pretty funny It sort of like sounds like the beginning of a children's book Tom buys an orange with Apple pay see Apple pay go Go Apple pay go. No, don't say go. Oh, right. Oh, no Jane has a Google wallet. She's taking a long time No, no Bobby has PayPal he can't buy anything for Bobby. Oh You're right. Lou says I liked also wibbly wobbly Cody woody. That's good, too Yeah, I'm torn between pineapple pay and Actually about four oranges, you know the other nice thing looking at this receipt There is nothing on here that would identify me Because you know, they only show you the four last four digits of a credit card anyway on these receipts And those last four digits are random Like they there they have nothing to do with they're not actually my the last four digits of my credit card Because it creates a new one-time credit card for every transaction you know why that is also awesome and it's just terrible to say but Lots more deductible things if you can't really tell who you are like doesn't that make it harder like for your receipts? Like you could now like collect receipts for deductions and nobody would know Well, I actually It could work the other way, too Yeah, I could say like With this doesn't show that you you bought it. Yeah, it's actually Aside from the slightly illegal thing I just suggested it is gonna be a bit of a conundrum I guess for the IRS although I guess they would know it's not it's they would just ask you for your I guess Okay, but there aren't the receipts really meant for cash. I I'm always confused by this I'm like if I've got a credit card statement that says I bought it didn't doesn't that mean I bought it like yeah I don't use receipts anymore. I use them to double-check and make sure I didn't miss anything Right there. I still keep them as a backup to be like, you know, okay. I've got I've got a paper copy essentially, but Tax accounting with Jenny and Tom our new show Fascinating So hey look at my background in my new office in which I have all of Len's art I've got not looking at us Dtns all-stars. I've got my favorite one of all time, which is the the top remember when they did Mark Zuckerberg as as The guy from Watchmen. Yeah, Dr. Manhattan. Dr. Manhattan. I was gonna go with naked blue guy But I also known as naked blue guy And Yeah, it's super exciting and right now the office smells like brewing coffee Because someone somewhere in the farmer's market. That is the most beautiful smell ever It's like something else It's all very exciting. I do need more DTNS gear though Up on these shelves. Hmm. If only we had a store Only we had a store Well, you have a mug, right? I have a mug that I have to bring in. I'm bringing in like one bit of thing a day Yes, bio cow is correct. No more husband walking by in the shot in his boxers There is it. Yeah, so there's that downside. Yeah, we have upped the professionalism of the show by 6.8% with that Although you will occasionally See Katie editor walking by in the shop because she is my office mate But she is fully clothed. Yes. I assume she's fully clothed at most most times I'm a what? I don't understand people sometimes I said I I said I just don't like the OS every time there's an OS 10 update to the look I never like it. It always looks worse to me than the last one I've never liked OS 10's look. That's really the issue here. Um I also don't claim to have any taste So I assume I'm wrong But one guy wrote so you're a chubby chaser. I'm like, what I don't know what that means Oh, because I don't like flat Is that what that's what he's really okay. So I just had to talk it out classy Oh cold brew coffee. Oh man. It just canceled sadly my other coffee service Wow, look at that. It's like beer You have pez dispensers. I do I have lord of the rings pez dispensers I've got Gandalf Aragorn Legolas golem and then a little Tyrion Lannister, which was Katie's contribution Very excited. I used to have the complete set. Oh, but you know what? They were on the certain laser set I wonder what happened to them. I don't think they ever made them that made it back Of the lord of the rings pez dispensers I got the great joke of that particular Christmas Was that I got three sets of those from people Katie got one matt got one for me and then I was the jerk who ran out and got it myself because I was afraid No one would get it for me. Oh, that's so many lord of the rings pez dispensers. It's ridiculous That was the Christmas that I bought Eileen star wars coffee mugs Because I was at the I think it was a Walgreens, uh, and I saw the lord of the rings Uh things and I bought them for myself and I thought and then I saw the star wars coffee mugs And I was like, oh, I should buy this is Christmas. This surprise Christmas present As I have my star wars glasses, which are star trek glasses, which are coming in over here Uh, I've got kirk and spock in the house and then I'll be bringing in Kirk and spock in the house tonight, but see look here. There's this whole empty shelf area that needs more gear More gear here We should start coming up with ideas for more things interesting I am not saying that that's already happening. David Michael Are you listening? I'm not saying that I spent some time You know setting up something that might or might not help that not at all because that would be pulling a johnson I gotta do better with cords though It's too many cords Well, you know about scott johnson pulling a johnson. No, I I get the context of it Like he says it without saying it But I don't basically he'll very often say do pretty much exactly what I did Which is like I got something to announce, but I can't tell you what it is, but I'm so excited And then that's it he's like but I can't say anything He did it recently he did on the most recent episode of the instance Because he's trying to book somebody from blizzard for the instance that they're going to record at blizzcon Uh, and and so he was just like, ah, I'm so excited But I can't tell you what is and then even with the extra step of sending it to terpster in through skype Without saying anything and the terpster going. Oh, oh, okay. You know, it's just like torture. I don't even know who it is Yeah, that you know, I love I love teasing things that are cool that are coming, but I understand people don't always Uh, appreciate so Well, it's one thing to say like Like a substantive tease and you'll find out more on this day, right, but he he's just hilarious for being like Like actually the instance thing isn't the best example because he was saying at blizzcon. We're going to try to get Versus like I've got a thing, but I can't say anything else about it. Like well, that's not really useful We don't even tell us the nature of it. Oh, I put that in the wrong place No, I didn't put it in the right place at the right time I still haven't got this new I don't hear a phone. I know it's buzzing Oh, I'd say you're It's matt matt's matt's virtually walking by in his boxers right now Stop me from walking by will ya I'll get in the show one way or another What is he like lucy ricardo? I'm gonna be at your show jenny Well, the cool thing is is like a now We can have other people on this show in a physical location if they happen to be in los angeles Like they can just be in this spot and the other cool thing is if we ever want to You could have a live studio audience Very exciting What are the capacity It's actually pretty it's not bad. I mean you could have like five or six people here. Oh, okay max It's not too bad. It should be really cool. It really only be worth it if we have like an in studio guest of some kind It's pretty but then they're going to bring their entourage Yes, that's true. There is no green room in this one room This one room is the everything You should just like hang something green in one corner and be like, oh Here's our green room. That's the green area. It's the green corner Now we don't have enough furniture yet. So like everything's on the floor like But you can see my really cool tv bag My bags um Let's see All right. I think I think I did everything right I feel like I feel unsure because we have we still have that second place with soundcloud to upload it It's like it's working. I think it's working When you want to support independent harness When you want to support that That is what they're hearing on alpha geek radio, but you're not Okay We're done I'm out this post. Thanks everybody Happy tim merits birthday everyone Yay He's in wisconsin. So if you're in wisconsin, tell him I said happy birthday Bye