 Welcome to Toffy TV, it's a match preview, West Ham United versus Everton. A huge game for both clubs El Saccio, what it's called, isn't it? Frank Lampard and David Moyes, both facing Sac with defeat. Both clubs on the same amount of points, West Ham have got one more goal than us. West Ham are obviously at home, so you would see them as favourites, but it is a massive game, isn't it? It is a massive game, I think, for Everton in terms of just everything going on. This could lead to a sack and it could lead to things with the board, it's just massive, it is, but it's huge. They've actually lost two more games than Everton as well, they've lost 12 of the 19, and a minus 10 Everton, a minus 11. Of course on, the other side of that, the glass side, the full side of that, if results went Everton's way, Everton Monday could be 14. That could have happened last weekend, it didn't. It's a huge game, obviously West Ham are home, so the advantage you would think would be with them very much as it was with Everton last weekend, we didn't take advantage of that. So it's a big game and I do believe one of these two will be sacked over the weekend. The mad thing is, the funny thing is, though, even if West Ham win, it still would be more likely that it was David Moyes, I think it's been sacked, just because the peculiar nature of everything that's going on, just because of the, just because of, you know, I think people probably thought if Everton got beat last week he would have been sacked, or even maybe the game before he was sacked. It's convenient, though, the two week break, isn't it? Oh yeah, for us. It's that thing for us where you look at something and you go, if they're going to make the change, it's probably going to be done, and they give them. I don't want to feel like this about Frank Llandbeth, that's all. But it's, you said it last week, it's got that Mark O Silver feel about it, where at the end where they were just playing a couple of games out and they were going to make the change no matter what. That's how it feels. And I hope I'm wrong because I hope Everton wins. It's funny that because I'd like to think that there was people in charge who were capable of making those decisions, but I don't think there are. It just feels to me like it's just dragging now. It just feels like there's no one really out to do it. Realistically, right? Realistically. We know the board stuff and all of the nonsense that's gone on with that over the last week. Stories, conflicting and everything else. But do you think that it matters what they think in terms of this decision? So that board might have, wherever they were, I know they were apparently watching the game together with you. I don't know if you put that out, maybe that didn't get out. It just sneaked out another way, but I'm sure they were watching the game together over there. Right? And then it's, yeah, the fire stick. And at five o'clock, we've lost. And that sat there going, that's another home defeat. Terrible three wins, bloody, bloody. I think we should chase him. And they go, yeah, yeah, and then he found Farad and he's like, lad, I'm on my yacht. I don't know what I mean. Bella. And they all sitting there going, Bella, Farad, lad. If he, and what I mean by that and the shame is the other way. Is that board strong enough? Is any board strong enough if you've got an owner or what? I don't think the board's strong enough. Do you really think, do you really think on a four man board that's got grand singles in Grimeshap? It's capable of ringing up Farad Mishiri and telling them to make a decision. But it's not strong enough. It's got a leader on it. Even the other way, even the other way. Farad wants to sack them. And that board's strong enough to go, no, we think you should keep it. No, of course not. Farad will just ring from Clampant and tell them he's sacked. But that will be convenient meeting. And that's it, I think that's the problem with everything is that. And it could be, listen, it could be me, you, John and Ned on the board. Farad Mishiri on the football club and we're going, don't sack him. Cos give him a bit longer and he goes, 94% here, don't sack him. The difference is, that's directing me, you, John and definitely Ned. One of us would resign or walk away. One of us would have the bollocks to walk away. Well that might still happen right now. And I think that one of us would have the bollocks. Are you saying to me then that right now in this situation is that, even if everyone was to lose, that you don't think, you think Farad Mishiri would still be in scratch? I have no idea. Because I don't think there's a, I don't think there's a, I think there's a vacuum of leadership at this football club. And I think that's very evident because you can't, it's all well and good saying the fellow who owns it makes all the decisions. If Joe Lewis ring up, dingio at space, lefi and say, you know, lefi look at him as a character, strong, vocal, as a presence, puts himself on the sky, fronts it up when decisions are made. Joe Lewis sits on his boat. Now Joe Lewis might pick up the phone and say, I think you might need to sack this fellow. But there's a presence there. I don't think we have a board that has any kind of presence. Then each bar at Baxendale, Bill Kenright, they go hiding, they only come out when things are good, which means we haven't seen him for years basically. The other two are non-entities even though they've got their own flags. Yeah, I've got their own flags. The non-entities aren't they? Like even, no other football clubs around the world, they get claim sharp and they use them as like, they put them out because he has got that link to the fans, but they don't do that either. And because he was a tremendous football player, he played in the game. And they're confused, they're like Bayern Munich and stuff like that. All of a can is now the presence of Bayern Munich. All these things. We're so weak, as a football club, we're so weak to communicating that the owner will go on talk sport or put a letter out. And the club football club don't really understand or don't have any dealings with it. And then they stay silent and it's a weak football club, which means that what's the point of the board? Is it there just to deal with the day-to-day stuff of running a club? Does it have anything going for it? I don't think it does. And that's why I'm not 100% saying that Franklin Pad will be sacked because it might be a case of, because to sack them means you've got an idea of who you're going to bring in next. I don't think they know who's going to come in next. I actually thought around the Manchester United game that they would probably start talking to people. Doesn't sound like it. We're not being linked with any managers. There's no one out there sort of fronting it. There's no one going on Sky going, oh, well, you know, I'm not really interested. You know, Sean Dice is not sitting there going, well, you know, I don't want the job, but you know, because that's no way what happens. People get wind of what's going on through their agents and stuff. And they start coming up and getting appearances on Sky and the BBC and they get asked. Sam Alladeig, don't forget, before Sam Alladeig's got the job, he was like, well, no, no, oh, I'm flattered. Braffa Bonita's literally was bleeding. Most of pity's honest to me. I'm back in Liverpool. Hey, lads, I'm out of city. I'm out of city, lads. I've got my fast pass. You know, all these things were not in. To me, it's that side of things as well. They're just for calling it to this game. Listen, Franklin Pad, I'll give him one thing. Whether he's a good manager or not, he is front, he's going in there. He's not sort of setting himself up as in, like, oh, it's just another game in a way. I think he does genuinely believe that he's good, not to do the evident job. He wants to do the evident job. You go to Westamware, obviously, to form a club or place that. He's not really liked that much. Obviously, he had a little bit of a go with them when we beat them at Goddison, one of our two victories. So, obviously, he'll be trying to set us up to get three points down there or at least get something out of there ahead of, as you said, a two-week break before we play Arsenal. You know, if we go there, and, you know, we do play the five again, and, you know, we get a couple of chances. Listen, these are level with us. We shouldn't be going there flapping it. I know confidence is obviously in the mud, but we should be going there thinking, right, we'll have the fans behind us, because we've seen that last week. Fans will be behind us, apart from the fan of whistle. Let's go and have a go with them. Absolutely, and, you know, I think you're right with Frankie. It's not for the want of trying. You know, I think he's working hard and he's trying to come up with a way to get wins. It's just not happening for him, and people can discuss that all day long whether he's good enough, whether he isn't good enough. As he's being given as much help as what he should have done, no, not at all. As he's been given the tools to do the job, probably no, not at all. So he, regardless of what happens, if he does end up paying the price for it, managers do it, just why we've just been discussing it. Don't win games or footballing in the bottom three halfway through the season. You probably should be relieved of your duties. They know the score. When they take the job, that's why they're so well, you know, recompensed. They know that. That's the game you play and it's a result game. He could walk away and go, I gave it everything I had, everything I had, but he didn't get me these forward players and all that. No one could turn on and go, should I off rank? You've had everything you messed it up cos he hasn't. He hasn't. And that's where you've got to look at it that way. But what you've got to do is, like you said, come up with some kind of game plan. West Ham are flowing with confidence. You know, they had a good win at Brentham and FAQ, and they followed up with a defeat against Wolves who were down there as well. So, their form isn't great. It's a bit like that. I think the win list in seven, which is probably, I think the win list in, feels about 30, but it's about 18. One win in 13, we've had, which is absolutely diabolical. But we did beat them at Godderson. And that was a tight game in I am Matian. I am Matian, Saturday will be another tight one. Yeah, let's just have a look at everything seen from the game against Southampton. Obviously we did go, we did start with the three, at the back. And obviously, like the Marry Grey playing off, of Dom and Cardiff Llewon. Didn't really play like that. No, no. We had a look at the final. The final positions. The Grey was ahead of Dom. The Grey was ahead of Dom. Dom was on the after round. Micheleco was the deepest. Can you see any changes from that? Or would you make any changes from that? I think, what I think is really difficult this time, is obviously, you're a wet. You touched on it last week. You know, the man is just thinking, with 25 minutes to go on Saturday against Southampton at 1-1, probably should have been to, people be shocked here, but probably should have been to put Dwight McNeill at left wing back. Because Micheleco was just so deep. Against the team he didn't need to be so deep against because they weren't really doing anything. And the owners are with you. I know as the home team to push on. But obviously I'm hoping Alex of Obie is fitter than he was last week. I don't believe he was fit last Saturday. He certainly wasn't himself. And therefore you have a look and go, well what other realistic changes can he make? Doesn't he go and come into the side? Well, after his cameo last week, given the winner away now. We haven't really got many other options. You know, Damari Grey is going to start no matter what. I think he's scored and assisted. There's last three games for everything. I think he's never done four with a goal or an assist. So right now you'd say well he's in all right form. It's frustrating as he is. And we saw that with the winning goal. Of frustrating as he could have got that out of his feet, crossed it. Never might have scored. He didn't. He's got the ball taken off. When he lay on the floor pretending he was being kicked and he hadn't. And they score for me. So you know, you'd look. O'n arna was excellent last week. Man of the match. So hopefully you can have another good performance and obviously Westam thought they had O'n arna didn't he. But what it would do is I'd tinker with it slightly and I'd have O'n arna and Garner in a double. In a double six for this one. And I've Alex O'Wobee roaming a little bit. In front. Keep them to back and see if we can on the break. Get our full backs high. The problem is if we had. It's a pity of course it is. But pity we haven't got pattern. Cos Sheamus does well for a 65 minutes and then you can see the draw. And then. It's what comes on to the place. Last week I was saying Anthony Gordon may be coming on now for that last 25 minutes and have a go when he come on and done nothing. Does he maybe mix it up in that case and look at it and go well actually this is a game where we are playing someone who's close to us. It feels like it's a must win game. Do we start by playing maybe Anthony Gordon right wing back and say no no we're going to spin this. We're going to play two sitters. A three, a two sitters. And actually we're going to have wit in this game. And then Dymari Gray has the space behind Dominic Alvin. And just flip it a little bit and say actually no we're going to put the pressure on you. We're not going to sit back and go come on to us. I mean that might work at Man City or you might try it against Man United. You know we're going to have loads of the ball because there are technically much better side. I look at West Ham and I think I don't know of the difference between the team but obviously there are massive issues it's not clicking for them for whatever reason. And I look and think maybe that is what you do maybe you're spinning on its head and then your get change is coming on for the last 20 minutes like he did it all at City and protect the back line if we have got a lead or you know what I mean. I just think there might be ways because I was going to say it might be totally long earest though what about you know having Ben Goffrey in one of the wing back positions I'm putting Jerry Meiner in and having three solid centre backs OBA and I have people that say now and go where's the pace table we're not really going to play on the half way like we shouldn't do, we did that last year when we lost Michael Keane on the half way like I end up losing the balls from that from breaking so that could be one way does it and then you'd have Ben Goffrey he's either right wing back or left wing back or you'd have him right wing even though you know he's not his position is he because he's not tremendous with the ball he's very quick unless he went through a flat back four and Goffrey occupied one of the full back positions and then he tried to do a 4, 5, 1, 4 so he's got a couple of ways to do it I just think the problem for Frank Lampard is he's not stumbled on something that's worked and he's been able to use it regularly and I understand people who don't like the 5 at the back of Jerry of Jerry I understand why he's trying to do it though, trying to have safety in numbers and get someone closer to Dominic Calderloon but last week everything didn't play a 3, 5, 2, he played a 3, 4, 3 and the 3, 4, 3 was Dom was isolated, oh he was on one we were just all excited to me, we had the two wing backs we're supposed to be wide midfielders O'n ar yn gana, we're supposed to be central a wobe was on one wing and grey on the other and it didn't do Dominic Calderloon any favours either because no-one was close to it let's just have a little look at West Hamside and that's the team he played so they played a 4, 3, 3 that's what they played at Wolves last week they obviously got Cufal and Creswell who liked to push on and then you've got Futech, Paquetta and then obviously Bowen, Fornals and Antonio so that's still a strong West Hamside that's the team that did well in your place they got them back into your they walked out of their your confidence group it's not an issue the standard of teams is really low but they've got to win but they've been obviously they've been poor for about a year haven't they? I mean if you talk to West Ham fans they'll say last January's where it started to train for them it only shook 40 points in a year a couple of West Ham fans were telling us weren't they trying it's been pausing this January we both watched something with David Moyes on this week and he was saying it's just one of them things at the moment he's trying to change things and it's the dip maybe he's trying to change the team around and that's something that Everton can hopefully exploit we're not very good at exploiting anything we've won one away game all season it was at Saltampton we've beat Saltampton away and I'll be honest with you I was quite surprised when I looked up West Ham's record cos in my mind you think even though they're playing poorly they'll be a bit higher up than that so I haven't got the opportunity to beat a rival which is not something you've done at any stage this season but at the last certainly since the Bournemouth game less the rather the one before that they were down at the bottom as well so it's a opportunity this was supposed to be a decent run in the season we've not won a single game and it does feel like you just go from week to week home this is the opportunity for Everton to start the resurgence and every week we sit here on the Monday and go crap I don't like that I don't feel like this is I'm not sitting here going this is the chance no no I don't know what you mean if you ain't getting something from West Ham then you know what I mean where they are we've got nothing from teams at home that are being around us you've got a two week gap that's why I was saying about the game being such a pinnacle game it's a bit strong to say this is one of the most important games in Everton's history but when you think about what could come off the back of this game if it's a negative result you're talking about changing manager but even if it's a not negative you're looking at the next two weeks thinking what comes after that is got to be positive it's got to be new silence new silence going forward giving us something going into the tough a tough run of games and bringing the facts back doing me, what's the difference I stopped doing it and we haven't won anyway so you're getting all of these facts at the end well let's just look at sorry sorry sorry because I think he got the winner last season didn't he very very jammy winner last season 19 games 2 goals 2.2 shots and that shows you the difference doesn't it last season everything he was eating he was getting all that luck their luck from last season now it is though they were good last season he was the big man and obviously there this season it shows you that he hasn't hit the height he was in the England squad and stuff like that and obviously that went away he has been a good sign he has been a good sign being typical moist type of sign people looking at him a bit more probably a bit more I think it's gone off the boil since Danny Dyer is daughter probably it's not good it's also the singer song and Danny Dyer has to listen to that song okay so I'm not going to say anything no don't so where's the facts following a 2-1 win last season West Ham are looking for consecutive home wins over Everton for the first time since November 1986 in a long time Everton are looking to complete a Premier League double over West Ham since the 2014-15 season Everton have won more Premier League games 28 and scored more Premier League goals 89 against West Ham than any other opponent in the competition if they win this game the Hammers will be the first team the trophies have racked up 100 Premier League points against them Everton are winning 9 Premier League away games in London since they beat West Ham 1-0 which is a good place to end that winless run isn't it about this they last went 10 without a win in the capital between March 2017 and November 2018 a run which ended with a 2-0 win at West Ham Oman's this is the first league meeting between West Ham and Everton with both sides in the relegation zone since February 1995 Tony Cotty scored twice for West Ham ride out in Limpart scored for Everton in the 2-2 draw since the start of last season Everton have earned the fewest points of any of the 17 ever present Premier League sides they've won just 3 of their 28 Premier League away games in that time fewer even than Fulham who only joined the division this year no side there should be a cracker this one by the way no side has scored fewer first half goals in the Premier League than both Everton and West Ham they've scored 6 goals each which is terrible this will be David Moy's 641st Premier League match as manager and Damari Grey has been involved in each of Everton's last three Premier League goals scoring two and assisting one it's only the second time in his career he's done that for three games consecutively never ever done it for four so that says it all there's some facts I think just to summarise West Ham are crap Everton are crap Everton's boards crap and Everton don't score goals and neither do West Ham so 5-4 or a 4-4 El Sachico El Sachico the loser gets some aladeis imagine that just some aladeis hanging up on the stadium in a cage like Mad Max in his little bills and the loser gets imagine the motivation that would give you the loser gets aladeis and the winner gets dais and Moy's and Lampard just gets a couple of weeks off absolutely incredible hell in the cell there you go hell in the cell West Ham's game does resemble more of a wrestling stadium than an actual football there you go let us know your thoughts in the comments it's going to be interesting at 5 o'clock on Saturday that's the last time you're going to have to watch Everton for nearly two weeks so that's I think that's a positive that's a positive that's a positive isn't it it is isn't it there you go let us know your thoughts in the comments it's going to be a classic guarantee it there you go make sure to check out all the amazing videos and 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