 In this episode of Mind Pump, we answer questions asked by listeners like you. Just like you. What they do is they post these questions on our Mind Pump media Instagram page. We pick our favorite ones and then we answer them. Now in the first part of this episode, that's the introductory portion. That's where we talk about current events. We talk about our own workouts, studies that we found, and we have a lot of fun. So here's what we talked about in this episode. We start out by talking about our favorite bachelor meals. We talk about when we were younger and far less, I guess, knowledgeable or wise when it came to nutrition. All the terrible things we did to our body. Nothing in the refrigerator. Then I talked about beet juice. Again, beet juice showed to lower blood pressure. And I talked about OrganiFy's red juice, which has a lot of similar properties. So if you don't like the taste of beet juice, it is disgusting. Not gonna lie. It's dirt. You could try OrganiFy's red juice, which also has rhodiola. Rhodiola is an adaptogen supplement that can help your body deal with stress and adapt to exercise. And OrganiFy is one of our sponsors. They make 100% vegan supplements like protein powders, the red juice I just talked about. Yay, vegan! And more. If you go to organify.com forward slash mind pump and use the code mind pump, you'll get 20% off. Then I talked about my workout, the one that's making me so thick. What the thickness. A bunch of C's after that. We talked about Adam's power lifting routine. He's on maps, power lift. And it seems like he's getting much stronger. I talked about the Jordan Peterson documentary that's available on Amazon. It was really good. We talked about Disney Plus and the Mandalorian launch. Oh yes. Justin literally is losing his mind. You're a boner. That's ridiculous. Adam talked about DoorDash and his experiences with DoorDash. We talked about the future of cars. Justin mentioned the owl box he's gonna be using to help combat his rat problem. And then I talked about San Francisco's new district attorney. Looks like they're trying to keep going downward. Then we get to the fitness portion of this episode. Here's the first question. This person wants to know if cardio is a waste of time if you're lifting heavy. So what are the benefits or detriments of cardio when you're trying to get stronger and lifting heavy? Next question. What are the benefits and disadvantages of doing barbell complexes? This is when you do exercise after exercise after exercise versus the traditional straight sets. Third question. Do you really need to eat multiple times a day like five meals a day in order to see progress? And the final question. Is it awkward when someone just asks one of us to be on their podcast? Short answer is no, but you'll get to hear us talk all about it in the end of the episode. Also this month, maps performance. This is our athletic minded workout program. So you'll build muscle, burn body fat, but also workout more like an athlete. So it's more fun. There's more focus on functional exercises and there are mobility movements. That program is on sale all month long. It's half off. So 50% off. Here's how you get the discount. Go to mapsgreen.com and use the code green 50. G-R-E-N-5-0, no space for the discount. Chokey walked in. With salt. Hold on, she walked in, she goes, she goes, you guys need to let a candle in here. Oh no. Oh it smells. It's like a stuffy man meat here. It's musk, you know what I mean? It's just, it's male. It's hot, like breath air. Well it's the caramel. It's the complete opposite of our front office because our front office smells beautiful. Like Zufu, it's very, this is how it goes. You know, you got the men's bathroom, you got the women's bath. It's completely different environment. Justin said it's like the, he said it's like those hot dog things at 7-Eleven. Yeah. The rotating hot dogs. The rotating hot dogs that are just there forever. Just to hydrate it and you're like, I don't know about this. When was the last time you guys had like an emergency have to eat something and you ate something like that? Like an AM, like an AMPM hot dog or not? I don't like them, they're sweating. It's like a long road trip. I didn't know hot dogs sweat. Why are they sweating so much? Just constantly sweating. What's going on in there? I don't know who eats that. I feel for those, like whoever goes in there and buys that. I'm not gonna lie though. As a kid, I ate them. Of course. Yeah, as a kid. I don't want to eat anything as a kid. When I was a kid I ate everything. Terrible. But I love hot dogs. I ate a whole thing of Pillsbury. You know those big like sausage tubes. Like I ate the whole thing. Just straight dope. I ate the whole thing. And I was fine. How old were you? I was probably 29 dude. 29? No, like you guys haven't dude. No, I've never. I have never done that bro. I've never eaten a whole sausage tube of Pillsbury. No. Chocolate chip cookie. No. Come on dude. You're all alone on this one. I mean I want to be with you on this but I'm just you're all alone. There's gotta be some listeners who have my back on this. Hold on a second, you went to the store? Yes. And you had some money and that was the thing you bought? Yeah exactly. It's like there's no parental, you know, people like stopping me. So I'm gonna eat the whole damn thing. So when you open the tube it like pops. It like the whole thing. It starts coming out a little bit. It's just a lot of dough. You just crushed it on the way up. Do you guys remember like the first, like your first either dorm room? Because Justin I know you went off to college with that or your first apartment or house that you got into. So like how you stocked the fridge and the cabinets. Like do you remember what you stocked it with? Dude I got shredded, you know why I got so shredded? I ate tuna fish in sandwiches in the occasional bowl of cereal. I just got ripped. I had yeah I had frozen chicken breasts and like all condiments. Like that was it. Everything I could put on a George Foreman grill. That's true. Every guy's fridge is like that right? You open it up and it's like just ketchup, relish. Yeah, there's no food though. There's no food. Yeah what about you? And beers. Mike and I actually do. A lot of yeah I had a lot of candy for sure because I talked about my candy addiction. But I had a lot of frozen burritos, a lot of frozen corn dogs, a lot of hot pockets. Oh bagel bites yeah. Top ramen and canned raviolis. I mean that was. Oh canned raviolis? Yeah the big one that was like. Oh that hurts his Italian heart. Like 1500 calories the shift boy or D ones. You know and you know how I justified that? It was like 70 grams of protein. Yeah I know dude. To eat the whole can. I feel like I'm going to start crying right now. You know what would happen if I ate a chef boy or D anything in front of anyone in my family? Yeah it'd get hit because of what happened. I'd get hit in the face if I did something. That's what I used to do. I used to judge food. Now this is when I got, I was still a kid. I was just a little older so I'm like late teens. This is when I'm like oh protein builds muscle. Therefore that's the only guiding principle for anything I ate. I remember buying a box of pasta looking at the box of pasta and I was like dang. It's like 50 grams of protein in this whole box of pasta. They're just eating the whole thing. Eat the whole thing. Yeah gotta get it all. That's when I figured out nuts. That's some protein like peanuts. Oh I used to keep in my drawer even as a trainer. I kept a big jar of peanuts in it just all day long. I used to just take handfuls of it because this was back when I couldn't get enough calories in right. So it was like this was one of the ways I got calories is I get one of those big jars of peanuts and just throughout the whole day between clients that throw handfuls in my mouth. Oh did you guys ever go to hometown buffet? I did for a little bit. Oh guys it's disgusting. So we used to stack plates when we were playing football and we'd go on the road especially we'd go to those buffets and that was like the thing. It was like a competitive thing. Competitive eating. Like you would stack like my roommate. I always tell you guys about how big it was. I mean he was like almost four and pounds. You'd stack like 10, 12 plates and it was just disgusting. Oh I used to do set. We would do rounds so we would do sets. So we'd go through the food then we'd go to the because they always had the soft serve ice cream so then we'd eat the ice cream and then we would all just take a breather. They can't kick you out you know what I mean? So then we would just chill for like an hour. And then we'd do the oh round two okay and then we'd do it again. And it's weird for me. And he hated us. I don't even know why I have gut issues now. It's really strange. I don't know what could have caused that. That's some of those problems. You know after the one of the last episodes we just did I've been getting a bunch of DMs. I don't know why people DM me stuff about something. Does this happen to you guys? You guys get DMs about something that one of us the other person says. Like Sal will say something and I don't know if they think it's you. I don't know if they think it's me or not. Well they asked me a question that's like something that you talked about. Like it was I was getting questions about the beet juice that you were you were using. Like oh what beet juice did Sal say he used? I'm like I don't fucking know. You know I listened to it the one time you listened to it. I have no idea. Ask him that. Dude I've been doing it in the morning and it legit works. And I've been doing more research. Do you know that beet juice has been clinically proven to significantly lower blood pressure? So forget working out in performance for people who want to lower blood pressure. It actually low it actually because it boosts nitric oxide so well. Is some of this information relatively new because when I think about all the things that I remember hearing about that were popular in bodybuilding and training and stuff like that. I don't ever remember people talking about beet juice. It was never really popular. Because it's yes it is relatively new that it does that we know that it really has this effect. But the initial studies were done on endurance athletes. So endurance athletes have been supplementing with like beet root or beet juice powder for a while now. It's been around for a long time. While meaning like longer than we were trainers or a while like in last decade. No I'd say yeah last decade. Okay so that's what I mean like I don't remember early on like anyone ever talking about. No there was one study that came out that showed how it improved athletic performance endurance and it was a significant improvement. And so then everybody started all the endurance athletes started taking it. And then the bodybuilders didn't really become privy to it until they started realizing that it raises one of the ways that it improves performances through its nitric oxide boosting properties. And it boosts I mean according to studies it's the most effective way to. So if you take like a pre-workout or like a NO pump whatever you know argonine citrulline beet juice or beet juice powder like organifies red juice. That's a lot of that. The reason why it's red is it's got beet juice powder in it which is actually better because it tastes better. Here's the drawback to beet juice. I can't do it. It's gross dude. I have to cut it with a lot of water. Now is that like pretty much most all their red juices or does it have other things? It's got other stuff and it's got rhodiola in there also. So rhodiola is a very one of the number one most studied or backed by studies adaptogenic supplements. So it helps the body deal with stress. It's also an energy producing supplement but it's not a stimulant. So if you're sensitive to caffeine but you do want energy a lot of people respond really well to rhodiola. Rhodiola was heavily used by the Soviets. The Soviets made a big deal about rhodiola. Now is this common that we see this in the pre-workouts that are stimulant free? Is this what typically is in it? Like when you look at just not just organified but all brands. Is this what's common to see in a natural pre-workout without any stimulants? Well you'll see because you also have things like Like cordyceps. Yeah you also have things like pomegranate juice also boosts performance, boosts the pump. There's these really really red deep red type of fruits or vegetables seem to have a lot of these properties being one of the number one ones. Some of them will include them. Some of them don't. Some of them that are stimulant free will have things like citrulline, beta alanine which also have some stuff supporting them. But I like the natural stuff. You know what I mean? That seems to be the best for me. But I tell you what though I need to like step back for a second with the whole like bulking thing. I saw your story. That was the saturation point here. The thickest I've seen you in a while. It's a little I'm a little yeah it's going too far. I need to reverse out of it. I bet your girl likes it more. Does your girl like you more? She does. Yeah. So does Katrina. She does. Yeah. Katrina would rather me be like almost. Do you think now do you think it's reversed like or do you think they're saying that because you know what I mean? They want us to get a little rounder so that we don't get. I think there's a little bit of that. Yeah. Yeah. Trying to like no you know don't don't go too far. Yeah. Well I think for I think for my girl it's because she's she's not small. She's five eight you know Katrina walks around lean at 150 if she's even soft or thick at all 160. So she's not a tiny little girl at all. And so I think. Does she like it when you give her weight out on air like that? She's in phenomenal shape. Bonus points. She does not mind. She's in incredible shape. I mean she sometimes she. She is fit right fit. Yeah. Sometimes she dunks lower than I do. I can't believe how low her body. She's it's she's one of those people though that you know she'll dunk at 11 12% body fat and still not see like really defined abs. So she's kind of the the the opposite. She's an athlete. You know that that that that is one of the reasons why men store body fat in their trunk and not on their lower body is because it keeps our limbs free for for like hunting or before for activities. That's the way we evolve unlimited. And of course women have babies. And so the lower body the body fat in the lower part of the body just balances out their center of gravity. But you'll notice this with really really high performing female athletes. They'll have less of the the waist to hip ratio type thing. Yeah. It'll be a little bit more straight. And if they store body fat sometimes it'll be more in the midsection. Yeah that's her that's definitely interesting if you think that it has something to do with that. I wonder if she was a D one. Yeah. Yeah. No. She's been an athlete her whole life. And so and and had older brothers that she were pushing her at a very young age. So maybe you know I mean that's an interesting. So she likes you heavier too huh. Yeah. But so my theory on it is that it does make her feel smaller. Right. I mean she I mean when you're a girl who walks around at 150 160 and 58 you probably aren't a big fan of having the boyfriend or husband that's you know 510 and 175 and you guys are close in weight right. So I think they I think she likes feeling more secure in my arms and me being bigger and bigger. Yeah. Just bigger in general right. That's what it is. What about you Justin. Yeah she likes it when I'm bigger. Yeah. You said that creepy that I look. Bigger. How tall is Courtney. Yeah. So she's about five eight. So she's pretty tall. Yeah. She's pretty tall. And Jessica is way small. She's like five three right. Five two five. She's even shorter. Yeah. She's a little bit. Yeah. You're right. Like she does like she's I mean she's glad I'm six foot but I like you know the fact that I can be a bit bigger. So it doesn't yeah I think it shrinks her down a bit. Well I haven't been this because I'm like two twelve maybe right now. I haven't been this heavy or this strong in a very long time. And what's happening is I mean. You feel good though don't you. Well I injured myself a couple times now because because I'm getting so strong my ability to stabilize isn't catching up. So and I'm trying to be careful. I'm still trying to be careful but I can rip some weight now and I'm like okay. I've noticed that too but you start it starts creeping back in the aches the pains and things that I'm kind of dealing with to try and you know mobilize and recover like the recoveries become like way more important. Well remember I told you I hurt my QL on my left side. So that I healed up right. Right side boom pull that one. The other one. Yeah. So I'm on week three right. I just started week three of PowerLift and I remember I think you guys asked me after the I think the first full round and I was into the second round last time and I was talking about how I was going to boost my calories and I was a little bummed about my chest day. I didn't think that I was progressing. My legs did really deadlift day squat day definitely progressed there felt good. Didn't I felt I thought I had felt regret what I was thought it was for sure until I went back and I was tracking because I've been logging all my numbers what I'm hitting rep wise and what weight I'm doing. I didn't realize that the first week that I was working out and I had started with 200 pounds on the bar and I jumped to 221 because I didn't realize what I had put on there the first time when I went through the program and the second time the second round I had put on. You are stronger. Yeah so I was because and so because I fell a rep or two shorter than the previous because I was telling you guys on air that I was like yeah I'm a little disappointed in my chest workout because I didn't feel stronger maybe it was my and I was alluding to maybe it was my calories but then when I went back this third time and I'm entering my numbers and then I was going back and I've been videoing a lot of my progress too just to like watch my form and everything like that. So I've been kind of picking apart everything and I looked at I'm looking at the video and I'm like oh fuck I stood on the blue one instead of the yellow one the second time like no wonder it was hard for me to get seven reps out and you gotta get ones that are pounds like we're gonna get rid of this whole kilogram who's the asshole that did that whose idea was that was me at first I'm like you know it's kind of nice because then you don't really know like oh wow what I'm actually capable of a lot more you know I was like tricking myself but that quickly faded out I'm not trying to do math when I work out the fuck man brainbusters as you know I'm I'm so you're up though huh oh yeah definitely great progress and I mean and now on week three you're doing five so the first week you're only doing three sets the the second week you're hitting four sets the third week I'm now up to five sets of bench and I was moving more more weight for more reps and then on and more total sets so I was able to increase volume significantly and and felt pretty damn good so I'm really excited to see I'm and I know this and because of however many times I've ran or gone through a program is you know the week four to six area is normally when you really start to see the big gains so I'm really excited about this next this next coming week after this week if what I'm going to feel and see so yeah normally I love so I've been going through power lift as well and normally I love to like have interactions with the kids and Courtney coming down and kind of like saying hi and like doing their reps and stuff beside me at that home and now it's like at a point where I'm like lifting like significant weight again and I'm like oh yeah I can't stand when anybody's near me when I'm lifting this kind of weight because all I'm thinking about is like hey don't jump around you too close and I'm like and so yeah I've been real snappy with it I'm like I probably shouldn't do this here anymore a different mindset different totally different I was what Justin was benching here the other day and I was over by the closet such a decent distance away but I kind of could see what he was doing and he hit a rep there that was it was a little iffy man he was like and I'm like do I need to I was struck do I need to run over there I had that yesterday and nobody was the only reason I got it up I think it was definitely my form went on the last rep because it was like none of you were here and I was gonna have to lay the bar back down on my chest so I got there's no easy way to get out of the bench press that one is like oh shit how many times have you guys had to do that maybe I would say a handful of times five times yeah and you just what you do you bring the bar I got good at it because I used to do it all rolling yourself out like dough rolling down your stomach which when you're getting strong it doesn't feel good to know it's like foam rolling but with a metal bar gets the hip and then you got to sit up with him huh yeah the first time I the first time I did that it was with 135 it was the first time I ever benched with 135 and I was in my backyard and I remember I did a few reps or two reps or whatever got stuck and I'm like and I'm yelling at my mom oh well you know she can't hear me because she's in the house I put it down on my chest I keep yelling she doesn't hear me I'm like fuck I roll it down but then what ended up happening is when you roll it down I rolled it and like pinch the top of my wing bro oh yeah because it was you know kind of pointing up a little bit and I'm like yeah it's like that bad boy yeah it wasn't it wasn't good this was this explains which why Justin said it looks weird yeah yeah yeah I was really confused it's like let me show me it got swollen and never went down anyway dude have you you guys watched the Jordan Peterson documentary no no no I watched the trailer and was like and so you actually watched the whole thing I watched the whole thing yeah it's actually it's you know what not bad so I was afraid I mean we've seen so much of his we've read his book like did you feel like you got anything new out of it well so here's the thing with it I he has to be one of the most misrepresented people I've ever seen right like it's crazy that people like like hate him the way they do it's like what does he make sense yeah he's painted in a particular way that's completely not accurate I've seen you know hundreds of his videos I have yet to see anything that would make me think that this person is a that he's a bad person that he's you know sexist or racist or all the other stuff that they throw at him but he is a complicated individual you understand that about him he can be very emotional at times you've seen him on the on certain podcasts or interviews where he just he did that with the Bishop Baron interview where he you know you cry he's talked about being depressed he's got an interesting house well he seems have you seen the inside of his house the paintings and oh I did see the I saw the preview to that he's got tons of really cool art Soviet era propaganda paintings wow so here's a man that studied you know the communism and fascism and just totalitarian regimes and the reason why I studied them obviously he's he's a he studies humans this is his passion he want to figure out why humans have done such terrible things to each other especially in the 20th century but then it's strange that in his house he's got a massive five foot you know painting of Lenin you know what I mean and other paintings and it's but I think he just because he's just obsessed with his work but it's very interesting Justin has tattoos of like demons and shit on himself right that's what you did so it's like maybe he's just my parents loved that yeah what would you have to put the evil one in front yeah do you really have a demon on that yeah yeah right here dude really yeah why would you do that because on the back you have I mean it's it's the whole duality thing it's it's good and evil it's I acknowledge that both exist and you know and it's art this is the art I was drawn to as a kid when I was sitting in back like at church and everything and I'm like looking through these it was like Dante's oh yeah like all those types of things like I was just very much drawn to the spiritual end of everything like because to me that was like okay if you believe it like you're believing in these types of things too and like what does that even look like that's a very good point I just was very much fascinated with what people didn't want to talk about that's a very very good point well this documentary was I'm going to be honest that was pretty in the middle I think it was a non-bias documentary it wasn't like a pro-propaganda you know film for Jordan Peterson it wasn't this anti film of Jordan Peterson it kind of showed who he was it showed the who did it complexity I don't I don't I don't know who the person was it was it done by him and his no no no someone did it yeah but it was like I said it you could you could you really kind of understand the complexity of that kind of person the weight of what he had gone through or what he's going through it's very very very interesting very interesting person I think he's more of a sign of you know changing times like there's a lot of young men that do like him but I think it's because there's a lot of young men without dads and don't have that you know that direction and then he's kind of that type of figure you know shows you how different all of us so much are it's so hilarious that this is what you're watching it's like Monday was the the game of the year in football with with Seattle and Niners right most I mean I hated the outcome but it was amazing yeah one of the one of the best games go down it'll be talked about for years Seattle Super Sharks yeah yeah Super Sharks that was going that was going on and then yesterday was the official launch of Disney Plus and Apple Plus TV and I mean I was so stoked to watch Mandalorian and that was fucking fire oh it was it was epic I signed up man I was like secretly because they had like some people were kind of trying to compare it to Game of Thrones I think everybody's trying to compare themselves that's like the new standard of you know you're creating a show with all this content like and put a lot of money towards it and so I was like half of me was hoping it was going to be like like they're like hour plus long shows you know and so this was a little bit shorter but man they did such a great job but I was I was like stoked as a you know a super fan if you will like I went back and was like researching like all the different ties that they were kind of pulling together the Easter eggs and everything so yeah dude I was I was pumped on like how this is you know where it's set like you know the environment so this is you said this is before this is after the Clone Wars but before no so this is actually after return of the Jedi and so after like the fall of the Empire and so like he's kind of going around and like I mean I can't give away like because spoilers some people haven't like watched it yet but at the end they reveal something that's really interesting yeah makes you kind of wonder makes you wonder yeah like what where they're going to go with it from there but like yeah like solo you know the movie I didn't really like it they brought back and so if you haven't seen it yet you know you're I mean it's tough dude I'm going to talk about this but they they brought back Darth Maul and I was just like what's like why like he got cut in half like what are we doing here you know now you're going to put like little robot legs on him and all the shit and like so now they're making this whole like underground you know like basically like like a criminal ring that he's created and then like infiltrated and became like like you know another part of like this whole government conspiracy thing that's like creating a whole another sub story that's that they're tying into the Mandalorian I think it's was all you know it's how fascinating was it to see our boy Tay the first like five minutes opener he's like the whole opener in the first five minutes yeah I saw a little bit of that I love it yeah that was great I have no idea what language you're speaking but I was like this is great I watched the Rick and Morty Rick and Morty came out with another season do you guys watch that? you know that song they did? yeah I'm gonna have to check that out they're now part of the Disney plus and Apple plus so when I have Disney plus is it automatically give me all the Apple plus stuff on there or do I have to go on a different app? yeah that's yeah that's they're different right so they're Apple plus is doing a bundle that I and I don't shit I just send it for Disney plus by itself I'm sure you could probably get it all bundled together if you want to so they have a deal where it's Disney I believe HBO and Apple plus all together for like $1299 or you can do a la carte for like $699 for each one if you make maybe you don't want HBO but you want the two of those because I already have HBO yeah yeah so do I so I gotta look into seeing how I mean we're talking about a few dollars you save but you save it but did you see how many subscribers yesterday? no you guys didn't see? yeah no what was the number? do you want to take a guess? it's first day okay first day millions 10 million 10 10 million subscribers wow that ad must have helped them a lot now hold on a second to Disney plus and what is it what is the trial? $699 it's $699 wow wow right out the gates yeah $60 million basically $70 million if they stick if they all stick right yeah because that's the trial period or whatever right right I mean what would you think I mean I think everybody who signed up signed up to fucking use it right I doubt you signed up to just oh maybe maybe some people wanted to but I tell you what I was so I went I went through all of it right I even went through Apple plus of course I because I've been talking so much shit about watch what these guys do and boy I tell you what man Apple original series so I got hooked last night I couldn't fucking stop watching the the new one with Jennifer Aniston you said her name right that's not thank you I like the old way you pronounce that yeah Aniston yeah Aniston Aniston and Steve Carell and Reese Witherspoon they have a show out called The Morning The Morning Show oh I saw the I saw it really good really really good dude I'm telling you this is the this is how TV is going to be remember remember a couple of years ago when I called it so what what Apple was trying to do okay so I watched a whole video on this so what Apple is trying to do different than all the rest of them is there and that's why they they partnered with Disney they partnered with HBO is you don't have to leave their platform so right now if you have a favorite show on Hulu you have a favorite show on Amazon you have a favorite show on Netflix you got to switch over well Apple plus is if you want if you have Apple plus and Disney and HBO it all could is all lives under Apple plus so you don't have to go out of that app to go to all these shows and if you were to search the top sure your show it just goes directly to that and you're and you're and you drive right so here's what I foresee I foresee a an app that you can get on your TV that'll do that for you so you'll be able to go to this app it'll have access to all of these other apps and then you'll be able to go through each show so just remember is your login and all that it'll show you yeah like oh here's on this is on Amazon but it's also on Netflix or here you know and then you'll be able to choose which one you want that's what I think is going to happen and I'm sure that there's that they're trying to prevent that or whatever but I have to have an you'd have to have an open API to do that I don't know if all of them do or not I have no idea what the tech is like but I foresee that happening but this is the future of entertainment you're going to get it's going to be all a car and it's it's and it's great it gives you lots of choices and people say oh it's it's more money it's not more money it's more money if you buy everything but if you really only watch what you pay for it's actually a lot less people still watching like regular cable yeah no a lot of people isn't that crazy yeah and I guess so I guess Comcast when you came that's where you watch your sports sports isn't that how you watch your sports sports games Comcast I watch it on youtube tv no I stream it I stream it through sling oh well now it's done so uh well I guess and maybe Doug you can look this up I believe uh Comcast check out the name of this Comcast is coming up with their own streaming service so they're putting their name in the hat they have to yeah also do that out of spite see so what I think is gonna what I think is going to happen is because and this is why I still disagree with your a la carte theory is that it's going it's so many people are going to go a la carte that eventually one of the big dogs where that be netflix or amazon or uh apple are going to scoop up and buy all the small ones and just bring it underneath that what happened yeah that never happens it never happens in markets for example okay has a big cereal company bought all the cereals or yeah general mills yeah but they don't own all of them well I mean they own post maybe yeah post in general most of them you're going the wrong direction no no no you said one yeah you're I think you're right that there may be big investment companies but all these small companies are going to remain that way and competition continues they'll buy all the ones that matter you know HBO Showtime you know they'll buy that might happen but I don't it's not going to monopolize into one no way there's gonna so it's it's too easy to compete yeah maybe maybe maybe they'll be it's not that easy actually the amount of content and money you have to have to be able to do that well what I mean is it's much easier than it ever has been to compete like before you know if you had a cable if you paid for cable cable controlled it that was it now you have internet access you can you can go to all these different people if you want it's crazy how so it's how so many these models too are not built off of making a lot of money right up front now I don't you know like they're trying to win the freaking your attention yeah like the uber eats and the door dash like I was like a hella pissed at my door dash the other day if they fuck up again yeah you know and I use it a lot right so you know they eat your french fries right yeah I know dude oh man I know you can so now companies what they're doing so like when you order from places they they'll put like a a tape seal thing on the back so that doesn't so you know if they broke the seal or whatever like that because I think that's probably been a complaint imagine some guy scratching himself and there's but I had this so we had somebody who didn't speak very good English and didn't know the area very well and you know Katrina ordered five guys and we were waiting for it to get it was like 40 minutes to get to our house and you you can see them on the map and so I I see her like fucking you know nine minutes away oh 11 minutes away now oh six minutes away oh now 15 minutes away like just forever ice cold but yeah by the time it gets there it was completely cold they pulled up to my house and it was actually like a little and I was so I was heated right I was so mad hungry yeah yeah I'm hungry and we've been waiting forever we're trying to we're getting ready to watch Amanda Lauren and it's like okay we're gonna sit down and it's a little hamburger night and what can watch a show right we're all excited yeah and so it's a good night yeah and so we're all prepped and ready to watch the show and our order takes literally like 45 minutes longer than what it should to get to us and I'm like so upset about and Katrina's already filed a complaint and you know getting half our money back and stuff and I'm telling her fuck it let's order she's on top of it yeah you know she's all over right yeah yeah so she she gets half our money back right away and I'm like ready to like give the the driver a piece of my mind like why are you doing this if you don't fucking know the area and you don't speak English very well like I'm pissed right so pulls up like it's a family and the the person who I thought didn't speak very English was a 12 year old girl that was talking to Katrina on the app and she gets out to hand the food to me and the dad's driving you feel like an asshole yeah and there's like a baby in the car seat in the back seat they all live in the car yeah I don't know they had a nice they had a nice car but it was like that's such a random thing that you have you know dad 12 year old daughter and then you have the baby in the back and you're running oh maybe you didn't have a babysitter I don't know I don't know but like it definitely I didn't say shit yeah of course not yeah just I just took my food said thank you hey tell your dad and we took your happy meal a toy yeah tell your dad you know I know he's working hard to support you guys can't afford a babysitter and all that stuff but he's a jerk my burger's cold so I had a this reminded me actually of a story I wanted to share with you guys that I thought was interesting too though and this was another door-dash story that was being so I ordered Nick the greek a few days ago and I had which is like one of my favorite places Doug's laughing at me because I yes I fucking I eat out every day at least once if not twice and I have the dad pulls up and he he gets out of the car and he makes his kid bring the food over to me also yeah so he the kid yeah but he's this guy you could tell what he was he looked like he was like his son had to been somewhere between the ages of 13 and 16 somewhere in that range and I think he was probably showing him how easy it is to probably make money by doing something like this and I was watching him come up now what was interesting was the kid couldn't make eye contact with me and like he was looking at the ground when he handed me the food and I could see his dad was kind of watching him and as soon as he got in the car I could tell he was like kind of coaching him before he took off and left so I thought that was kind of interesting like you know a dad probably showing his son you know how way I mean how cool is this because this didn't exist when we were kids like I had to go mow lawns and go do door-to-door type stuff totally to make money but man I guess I probably would have done something like uber or door dash if I was a oh it's brilliant teenage kid who's no I don't know now maybe maybe because you know like let's say you have a teenage daughter or yeah maybe even a teenage son would you feel safe for them doing that going to random houses and shit you know what I mean you're 60 you're 17 year old kid well I mean going up to a house I mean how dangerous is it how many people have been abducted or killed doing that I don't know so I mean statistically speaking it's probably yeah maybe I'm just I think you're being a scaredy cat dude that just reminds me I read an article or actually kid to work day I read an article that said that the title of it was I think it was in the economist I think that the last the person who's going to have the last driver's license has already been born in other words they talked about the future and how it's going to come here pretty soon where well that's a trip you thought people are not going to really they think that that soon automated cars 100% and within 16 years that we're going to we're going to no one's in a people need to know and the bottleneck is the loss that's the bottleneck but as soon as we are able to get around that look people need to realize self-driving cars or going to fundamentally change society the same way the car changed society going to completely change everything everything about where's it going to start is it mainly going to be like freeways you think first probably there and also like truck what is it called like truck drivers oh yeah truck drivers you know they're bringing you know frets and stuff like that but it's going to radically change everything I was just you know I was going for a walk with Jessica and we're walking through looking at houses and thinking to myself like garages no one what are the all garages going to be converted to rooms every single one who's you're not going to park a car you know I wonder if it's going to be like that in 16 years bro how fast can be like you know those old movies where they like whistle for a horse like well that's a weird it's totally it's totally going to be just like that that's a weird fuck where that come from that's a weird tech whistle me yeah it comes up we like to combine it's better than you so uber it's whistler what do you think do you think something like my my Camaro will go dramatically up in value or will it up you think so yeah it'll become a collector so it's already one right so right so think of antique yeah so think about it this way when the car was invented how fast did horses get replaced by cars it was actually relatively fast now it was if you're living in that area like seems kind of slow because you see one car it's then you see two then it's just cities that just have cars but if you go into the rural areas everybody has horses but then they started all having cars about that now I got the Kentucky Derby now you have like these these like shows where you show off your horse and prancing around it's the same with cars well horses back then we're probably we're a lot cheaper I'm sure buying a horse now is you know probably a lot more expensive than it was back then especially if you have a really nice horse with a good pedigree or whatever cars got to be that way I would assume especially collector cars yeah but I but what if you can't really drive them on streets anymore because that's where all the self I mean would that make it more of a collector or make it more obsolete dude it's gonna be weird I was thinking about this I was totally thinking about this like what's gonna happen when everything's most cars are automated but some of them are driven by human are you gonna be shamed to not drive your car because you're the you're the one that's gonna fuck up I'm sure you know what I mean oh yeah you're gonna be the one getting in accidents in fucking up traffic do you think it's gonna be like that or do you think it's gonna be more like people that people driving me like fucking drones yeah yeah all mad I don't think because uh yeah maybe initially I think but yeah like as more people adopt it in the concept like they're they're gonna be pissed that people that are driving themselves it's gonna it's gonna take over think about how much money you spend on a car your car payment maybe or just the cost of the car itself so if let's say you buy it outright the insurance the gas the space to park it then the drive time to get to places the traffic the part paying for parking and all that stuff imagine if you just pay a fee car picks you up drops you off and that's it I'm really torn on this because one I see the value in you know being very Tom Bill you ask where he takes an Uber everywhere I don't even know if Tom has a car it takes an Uber everywhere because you can work right and I see a lot of value in that right especially like you know places that I'm looking to live right now might be 20 30 minutes of commute to get to where we're at right now and you know how nice it would be to get into my you know self-driving car and I could already start answering emails and working on whatever so like that 30 minutes isn't even if it's traffic doesn't matter to me because I'm getting work done so man I see a tremendous amount of value there look forward to the future when I think of things like that but then I'm also the same guy too I actually like that you guys know I drive every time we go to work I like to drive sometimes there's been times where I'm such a car guy and like driving so much that I will just go on a beautiful day go take a drive with the windows down and my music blaring and just kind of take off for a half hour hour my favorite part of going to the beach on those types of weekends is the drive to the beach you might have to go to special places to do that you know what I mean I guess so that part of it I'm not excited about because it's almost like you lose the freedom well I think I think it's going to be such a great a huge boom to society and the economy think about all the people that can't drive like kids the elderly think about the cost savings think about the way we organize our cities and parking structures and all that stuff all that space is going to be opened up think about the the reduction in you know carbon emissions because a lot of these will probably be electric vehicles that'll be parked and stored by some company and then when you call one on your phone it just drives up to you and drives you away it's going to or you whistle at them it's going to be it's going to change society so and in traffic much of traffic is due to user error or to people driving the cars when they can all sync with each other do you know how many cars you can fit on a freeway that are just going to move in unison yeah they'll be driving they can go faster they'll be driving one inch to be from each other probably you'll be one inch close to the car in front of you just to pack as many cars as possible but you're all moving 80 miles an hour you know what I'm saying and then easily move into the next lane it's going to be really weird man to be and the cars themselves are also driver centric so like you look inside of a car it's designed for the driver when there is no driver fuck man you get in there to be a lunch car like I'm going to I'm going to call a lunch car I'm hungry I'm going to eat on the way home or you know what I mean whatever you know well I'm waiting for Roomba to create a robot to kill rats that's that's my next the you still got prediction yeah I do and so like going in my backyard and kind of like seeing where like their nests potentially are like we found this what looks like like an open runway you know towards the chicken coop that's like there's literally there's literally I'm serious there's literally it's like packed down like there's no like any any kind of leaves or or twigs or anything like it's all spread out like completely open run runway and I looked up and it's like they actually have like rat runs like they create this so it's like the most like efficient pathway towards their a feeding grounds those motherfuckers yeah dude so wouldn't you set traps on that or something and now the wouldn't that be an idea yeah and yeah they don't they don't go for traps they're they're smarter like I've killed so many smart rats yeah they the next generation is already like if you haven't watched The Secret of Nim it's an old cartoon you gotta watch it sort of yeah so I appreciate too like everybody it's been DMing me all these like natural ways to like handle this and I've tried like a lot of these different like homemade traps and all these things and so one of them is the one that I'm getting into right now is like I'm currently building an owl box so I've gone with the cat direction which by the way the cat did not run away it it actually went to my neighbor's house and made a home in his garage oh and I'm just like you traitor you got Garfield yeah took off on us dude like that totally didn't pan out so what's the owl box so an owl box so it's like I mean it's basically a bird box but yeah you well no shit right but you just make it a certain dimension so it could fit in there and it's it looks like they see that as an opportunity to then you know obviously go and occupy it so if you build an owl box then the theory the theory is that owl we'll find it and then live there yeah or at least like you know come there you know occasionally like because it passes through we've had owls come through before you can hear them as I'm walking out fucking bad what if they're they're savage like fucking predators they're my favorite yeah what if they're hella picky you gotta build something like super custom for them that would suck yeah yeah he's like this doesn't have solar I'm moving along yeah I don't know and the thing is like how high do I have to go because dude I have redwoods and those things you can't even like if you if you look straight up you can't see the top you know so I'm like I'm not climbing up that shit I'm gonna have to get somebody to install it but I'm building one now so I'll let you know I mean are you how the owl thing goes are you reading up on like how you're supposed to do this like is there a theory on how high you go how big no yeah I haven't got that far I just built the the actual box dude owls are awesome they're my favorite you know it's gonna be hilarious when he builds it like the rats burrow up in it you see they don't climb with those trees dude I see you're right oh man oh good backfire who knows like backfire everything's been backfiring on me so far this is like a like a constant drama look at your household you got a raccoon hanging out in that owl box you end up attracting raccoons now that could happen because we've had them come through and and they've been a problem as well so do raccoons eat the rats or no are they friends I don't think so they're all friends yeah they're all conspiring against us dude did you guys see San Francisco's new district attorney what he said no you guys no no do you want to talk about it this is it's just just a second Justin try to angry as I talk about a little bit what's going on San Francisco is a funny city it's it's it makes no sense dude it's becoming bad totally okay to be naked and shoot heroin but you can't like yeah let's take shits on the street it's fine it's getting bad over there so you know what he said so what he's gonna do now is he's not gonna prosecute prostitution so prostitution San Francisco will no longer be prosecuted wonder what's gonna happen with that yeah public urination no longer a crime which I think is crazy listen I think that's crazy have they never seen back to the future too would biff biff takes over yeah that's exactly what's gonna happen he's also not gonna they're not gonna say anything when someone blocks a sidewalk with a tent so if homeless people are camping on the are you taking this a lot of context or is this like no that's literally what he said really yep wow that's literally what he said this is interesting yep yep that's the dumbest idea I've ever heard my life well like now okay now prostitution fine if it's a if it's a voluntary action between two people you know maybe there's some laws about where you're at or whatever I can get that I think the best way to handle that would be to legalize it and sanction it somewhere like like the way that they do in Nevada right public urination you gotta get the fuck out look if I'm with my kid and a grown man takes a piss in front of my kid they're gonna receive an ass whooping you're attracting and inviting more bad behavior and it's just begin it's this beacon now for like people to just come and and do whatever like now bad shit they want what's his justification of it because he says he doesn't he are they spending too much money on trying to fight all that no he what he's literally saying is because it's costing them money and if what's gonna happen is if he if he really does all this then the it's gonna get much much worse and San Francisco is gonna start losing money people are gonna start leaving businesses imagine if you have a business and there's people camping in front of your business and you can't and the cops are like sorry we can't do anything about it what's the 10th law you said again I it used to be where if you were if you were blocking the sidewalk that you would get cops would come over and say hey you need to move or you're gonna get a ticket or whatever nobody wants to live next to that shit nobody now they're now they're saying they'll just leave it and what he's saying is he's he doesn't want to criminalize poverty which is a very nice sentiment and I get what he's saying doesn't solve the problem whatsoever it's not a solution and what's gonna cause now is a lot more animosity yeah more people migrate there yeah but the whole especially the peeing in public that's great that's like you're exposing yourself what are you doing you know lawlessness weird first question is from the iron princes 17 is cardio a waste of time if you're lifting heavy or do you suggest doing some in your workout you know why I picked this question because I think people get the impression that we're anti-cardio that you should not do cardio that it's terrible no did I just share on the show the other day that I ran I mean I'll do that every once to make sure I could still do it that's important you know I read you ran to the fridge yeah yeah I get on there and run a couple miles every now and then just to make sure that I could still do that well here's the thing with cardio we are anti-cardio being the answer to everything and a lot of people have overdone cardio especially when it comes to fat loss that's where you get into problems but can cardio help you get stronger and build more muscle sure if it improves your health yes and I actually experience this I experienced this in my early 20s when I was you know some of the heaviest I ever was and biggest I ever was and I was lifting heavy and all I wanted to do was build muscle and I didn't care about anything else and I remember my buddy actually made a compelling argument and he said you know your cardiovascular endurance and your health or your lack of those things are preventing you from building muscle and he says you should try doing a little bit of cardio and you'll probably build a little bit more muscle and so I thought okay I'll give this a shot and I did I didn't do a ton I did like three days a week of elliptical or whatever and I was totally totally terrible cardiovascular shape so it took me a few weeks to get used to and it was like 25-30 minutes and I did notice I got stronger in a lot of the exercise that required a lot of effort like barbell squats well yeah increase your aerobic capacity and you do deadlifts I mean right now going through the first phase of power lift it's eight to 12 reps of deadlifting and squatting like I can be gassed totally yeah definitely winded from that so just me doing some cardio to increase my aerobic capacity is going to carry over into my ability to get right back into another set and it not win me or gas me so much so yeah there's definitely benefits to it I think that's and you know it is a good question to I think talk about because we have been labeled as team no sweat and you know we've done videos on YouTube that cardio sucks for fat loss and I think the message that we're just trying to get across is just that is that it's not for many many years it was promoted as the best way to burn body fat and it's completely the opposite it's not the best way in fact it's not nowhere close to the best way to burn body fat at least not long term right maybe in a short term window like hey Adam I got 14 days I need to burn as much fat as possible yeah running like crazy in those 14 days is going to burn a ton of calories which then in turn can help burn fat but it also gets you adapted to that and to maintain that is going to be really tough for most people you're far better off building a bunch of muscle which will speed up your metabolism which makes that losing body fat a lot easier right but now if your cardiovascular fitness is really bad your strength is going to suffer if your health isn't optimal your muscle building potential is also going to suffer and is cardiovascular capacity does some of that improve your health well yeah it does now you don't need a ton you know you don't need to be a runner or an endurance athlete but if all you ever do is lift weights and especially if you if you always lift weights like a strength athlete like a power lifter especially if you don't do things like supersets or giant sets or strip sets which are body building techniques but also tend to train the cardiovascular system a little bit like if you've ever done a lower body superset where you're going from like lunges to barbell squats like that's going to work your cardio but if you're training really really heavy all the time and you're doing these long rest periods you're going to benefit from having better cardiovascular endurance and I mean you're going to benefit in terms of your your gains your strength and muscle building also just don't like to lose abilities you know if I've been neglecting it too long and I know you know I'm not involved in like highly competitive sports anymore but even just like daily activities or playing with my kids or you know coaching or doing anything like I'm still moving in like I don't want to be the guy out there just like completely gassed because I haven't even given it any attention so it's definitely something that I make sure that I have that as something I you know intermittently will throw in because it's very important to me that I maintain certain abilities as I age two years ago I let my cardio get so bad I was I was in a competition with one of my top trainers and my fitness manager this was back when I was running sanatrisa and the competition was to see who could put on the most gain the most size yeah and we were all young dudes and meatheads and so we would lift weights together and then we would just eat and we would eat anything to get as many calories as possible and this is when I got my body weight over a little over 240 pounds and I I'm a six foot tall guy I don't have a massive frame I weigh 212 right now so it's another 30 pounds on my body much of it not muscle because we were just packing the food back and that was this really really big heavy dude and I remember at the end of the competition you know we all tallied who gained the most weight and you know and you know whatever and uh the joke was at the end of it that we were all going to go on a stationary bike because we're like at the end of this we all need to do a little bit of cardio just to see what happens so we all get on a stationary bike the three of us and we're all like bro 10 minutes into it I was we were gassed we were bringing from a stationary bike my friend desk was talking so much shit they were making announcements about the three gorillas on the on the cardio everybody come come to the zoo come look at the three gorillas but we were dying 10 minutes it was terrible I have a similar story I uh I was the same thing it was this was the biggest bulk I'd ever been on I was you know weighing first thing in the morning at 235 throughout the day I was definitely pushing 240 and this was also the same time that I was just getting into starting up boot camps and you know my boot camps were predominantly like you know people above the age of 50 right so most of advanced age clients for the most part most of them pretty deconditioned every once in a while I had one or two athletic people but for the most part most people were really everyday people yeah and even more advanced age didn't over weight right so they weren't they're not moving fast is where I'm going with this and you know part of the I would do this you know dynamic warm-up with them and then we'd run one lap around the track is what I'd have them do and uh they were all kind of razzing me about how big and big I was getting some of that and like oh you gotta run with us and of course I'm not gonna like you know act like I can't do a single lap with my my clients you're not gonna do the old oh my knee hurts right right but I hadn't done I hadn't done anything at this point in a long time because in order for me to push that kind of way I had to like I tried not to move like I was like intentionally not moving as much as I could throughout the day so I could pack the calories on because it was so hard for me to push my weight that high that's how aggressively I was bulking and I'll never forget that lap and I remember inside being like oh my god I have to pretend like this isn't killing me right now but my shins were on fire I was like gasping I'm like jogging in front of all them and it's like a light jog one time around and I remember at that was a oh yeah like never again will I be this bad dude it was so bad next question is from Jeans Woo what are the benefits and disadvantages of doing a barbell complex versus doing straight sets so a barbell complex like a circuit yeah like like they're using the example of like deadlift for five reps row for five reps clean for five reps press for five reps I don't necessarily like the combination of exercises I definitely don't know if I like would put a row with a deadlift right away but I get the idea right it's doing you know five exercises back to back you could call it a circuit lower reps they tend to call it a complex but it's really exercises back to back now what are the advantages the advantages are time that's all I could think of well you and you burn a lot of calories in a short period of time right so yeah if you do a 30 minute you know resistance training hit type workout or circuit type workout you know maps hit is like this for example maps hit these are these are complexes that are 20 minutes long and you just burn a lot of calories in a short period of time so for short term fat loss it can be very very effective now for long term muscle building not as effective straight sets are straight sets of your bread and butter you know what I mean that's your like this is what I usually do and there's a variety you know versions of straight sets I mean I'm not a fan of it at all and I know that it does model our our hit program but even our hit program is the only program that comes with a warning and we warn people not to get stuck in training this way forever it's just not ideal for somebody who an interrupter yeah it's a great interrupt exactly it's great interrupter this is a great thing to do this is an example of something that I would do in that one off time that I have only 20 or 30 minutes and I want to get a really good workout you'll get a good workout from that but the the benefits of doing all those movements that are that this person is listed as straight sets oh my god far more beneficial totally you're getting so much more out of those extra those are those are such great exercises stand alone that after you deadlift five times and roll five times by the time you get to clean you're probably maybe cleaning 50% of the weight that you potentially could do five by five if they were straight sets and really it's about energy systems of the body that you're training because I've had people ask me that's like why rest like what's it I'm still lifting weights well it you're the energy systems that you use predominantly when you're working out or what drive or part of what drive the adaptation right so when you do a straight set you're working with the you know the the ATP system you're not dipping into you know glycolysis or glycogen too much like you would when you're doing these now what does that mean for the average person listening who's like what the fuck does that mean okay one of them leads to strength and muscle building adaptation the other one is more of an endurance building adaptation and endurance doesn't require a lot of strength and in fact if you push endurance too long your body actually becomes more efficient with calories aka metabolism may actually start to slow down a little bit this is why if you do lots of all you ever do is cardio or all you ever do are circuits you'll burn a lot of calories while doing the workout but your metabolism actually slows down for the rest of the day or the days that you don't work out so but in for short periods of time they could be phenomenal fat burning workouts like let's say you're you're normally consistent with your workouts you've been working out for a long time and you're like oh I got you know five weeks until you know Mexico I'm gonna go to Mexico and I want to look really good in five weeks well throwing in quite a bit of these type of workouts in that five week period with a good diet you're gonna get cut much faster you're gonna burn more body fat you know much faster I used to do these like barbell complexes but I mean never more than two weeks like max like I would throw them in as their own emphasis is my kind of version of cardiovascular but higher intensity cardio and really I was trying to mimic it to apply yeah I just love CrossFit and I wanted to do anything close to it as possible this is before CrossFit but it was really just to get these these quick bursts these powerful bursts and and try and withstand you know like being being able to like elongate that a bit so I could still like mimic what time length I was I was applying towards the field so if I was like in a play I'm gonna be in a play for you know 10, 15, 20 second you know bouts of like a musical play like a musical play yeah like a musical play yeah like a wicked yeah one of my favorite ones dance and really intensely football football dude oh that kind of play yeah football play yeah so I see benefit for that like if you're you know in that type of a sport where you know you are doing totally high intense bouts but you're trying to extend your endurance within totally performance performance would be another one now here's a thing and I've always told this to athletes the best performance gains you're gonna get that are specific to your sport are done practicing your sport now here's the problem with the game with football Justin can't just go practice a bunch of plays you know in order to get his conditioning up because he has to rely on other players so everybody has to meet at the same time and at some point it's gonna beat you up too much so how is he gonna train that type of performance endurance and stamina but also not tackle and beat his body up because he's already practiced X amount of time this week well this would be a good kind of a good strategy now that being said there's a lot of sports well that's not the case there's I've had people who are like runners and rowers who are like oh I'm gonna do a lot of weights to improve my stamina and I'm gonna do my weights in a way that improves endurance like no no no make get yourself strong with the weights just run more if you can run more just run more that would be the best way to do it at the end of your workout or before yeah but when it comes to something like football makes perfect sense it's like there's only so many times you could do plays where you're tackling each other before your body just starts to just get beat up but maybe maybe you have the capacity to do the workout then do that next question is from T Got Soul do you really need to eat multiple times a day to see gains I eat two big meals and one shake a day to meet my macros is that okay I train five to six days a week yeah this so years ago this was never a thing people ate you know two or three times a day it was just part of culture typically it was to break the day up type of deal so you took a break at lunch and that's what you have that and then dinner was with your family breakfast was some cultures they didn't have any breakfast and other cultures they had some and that was pretty much it for a long time then you had strength athletes who started to figure out that the more they ate the stronger they would get and the more muscle they would build well some of these guys were consuming you know four or five six thousand calories a day that gets difficult to do with two or three meals you know if you eat three meals and you're eating six thousand calories those are two thousand calorie meals each time it's a huge meal it is and that's it's gonna bog you down and it's just it just doesn't make sense so what they would do is it would start to split these meals up and they found that it was easier to digest it was easier on their on their bodies and so rather than having you know three two thousand calorie meals maybe they had six you know thousand calorie meals or seven hundred calorie meals or whatever but then you know as this started happening they would talk about it and people said oh you know that's the way that guy eats so that's the way I need to eat as well to make gains supplement companies got a hold of this and thought what a brilliant way to sell protein powder and meal replacement shakes because the average person is gonna hear the message that I need to eat five times a day but the average person isn't gonna make five meals so they're gonna what they're gonna do is eat their normal two or three meals throwing some shakes or some whatever and it became this whole thing about like eating small meals burns more calories builds more muscle you need protein all day long or your muscles start to deteriorate or it speeds up your metabolism because of the thermic effect and all that sort of stuff total complete bullshit at the end of the day it's personal preference is what you're doing do you think that there's some somewhat though of gotta be kind of a sweet spot though for each individual like and why I'm saying this is the digestive system is probably like every other system of the body and you could probably over do it just like anything else just like we could over tax our muscular system by training too hard or our CNS right so if if that's the case like you know if somebody who has like let's say you know a 2500 calorie maintenance like that's what they need to eat and so that divided up over two big meals and a shake probably not that big of a deal 900 to 1000 calories it's not probably putting a ton of stress on the digestive system but you know what about what do you think about someone who's trying to fit you know 5000 or 4000 calories in two or three meals and consuming 2000 calories especially if you're eating 2000 calories of good calories that's a lot of probably volume as far as food on the digestive system all at once I would think especially if you have habits of doing that and then sitting down at a desk or not getting up and moving around something I mean I just feel like common sense says that also would not be the most ideal way to eat too even if if and here's the thing that I know already because I've read the studies that what I'm saying is not supported like if it because they'll measure things like building muscle if we just measure you know if you hit your macros whether you hit it in one meal or six meals the science shows that it doesn't make a difference but then I wonder about like how how healthy or how ideal is that for my digestive system if I'm stressing it with so much food in such a short period of time and would it be better like training you know smaller doses more frequently as far as on the stress level and is there do you think there is a sweet spot for each individual yeah so this so this yes the extra both extremes are not good so eating too much at once we've all done that that's obviously not good eating too frequently has also been shown to increase inflammation in the body and cause digestive issues especially in people who already have gut issues so I'm like this so when I'm having gut issues eating less frequently way better than eating more frequently more frequently really messes me up but there's a limit right like sure eating less frequently might be better for my gut but what if I you know do it so infrequently that I'm eating you know 5,000 calories in a meal or whatever well then that can definitely cause a problem now evolution you know evolutionarily speaking humans probably ate food when it was around which meant we probably ate a little bit here and there by finding it so there's its edible plant there's this whatever but not much but then when we did kill something we probably ate a lot of it I don't you know we didn't have refrigerators and you know stuff like that and so we probably ate until we were full and then you know we ate again when we were full and then the meat was gone and now we probably went for long periods without food this is why fasting shows that you know that it's got some some health benefits but as far as the what we were sold for so long and this to me was the biggest like shocking paradigm shattering moment for me in all of my fitness career this was one of the first dominoes that fell and the reason why I call it a domino is because when I realized that this was false you know the myth that you have to eat small meals throughout the day because it speeds up your metabolism you have to your muscles have to have protein all day long otherwise they'll start to cannibalize themselves I believe that whole heartedly for a long time we were told that by courses that we took we were told that by obviously supplement magazine yeah I always had protein bars in my pocket so I was so afraid every two hours muscle would fall over the gas station just to get a bar exactly and and I was so bought into this and I sold it so much to clients you know I used to tell clients there's only one athlete that eats once a day you know the sumo wrestler and look off out there I used to have these like great presentations selling this to people for so I bought into it when I finally started to look into the science which was years later I started to you know think to myself like this doesn't sound right like are these guys full of shit then I started experimenting with my own diet and realized it was complete bullshit and it was the first domino because once that one fell then I started to question all the what I thought were truths in the stuff that I did and I started to realize that a lot of them weren't weren't true and at the end of the day just boils down to this it's personal preference you know it's like what works great for you and that's it at the end of the day it's like food quality calories and macros kind of make the most sense and don't eat too close to bedtime and there's really not much else I think figuring that out like your your own digestive needs like what what works best for you that's not going to impede on your sleep that's not going to impede on your training and like detract you from energy and throughout the day that's all the kind of shit you got to figure out and then whatever structure works best for that is what you apply next question is from Xavier San five is it awkward when someone asks just one of you to be on their podcast who picked this no yeah no that's actually the only way we do it we won't do a virtual podcast with all three of us because it's well one it's we've tried well it's a couple things one you know we've been we've instructed Brianna and Ann whoever you're whoever they're communicating with when they're trying to get one of us on the show is that it just it's easier because we're all doing different projects and we're not we're podcasting together then the rest of the day we're off doing different things related to mind pump and so to get all three of us together to do a podcast really kills us business-wise when we're all trying to do other things so we wouldn't do that anyways all together not to mention like what Justin was saying is it it's it sounds terrible when we when we do a virtual with all three of us there's a lot of talking over and it doesn't sound good it's too much lag and besides that the reason why I picked this question was because you know I have never worked with a team that works or worked with partners that works so cohesively with each other and trust each other and you know are able to do work with their strengths and allow the other guys or team members to work with their strength and so it's never awkward it's never awkward if there's ever a situation where one of us is obviously the person that should be doing it not only do they do it all of us are happy that they're doing it and then the person doing it is proud that they have the opportunity to do something for their team and this to me is one of the reasons why I think this is what makes a team successful because when it starts to feel awkward I think that's when you start to have egos and who's the what what's happening insecurities which is absolutely ridiculous so much stuff that happens behind the scenes too that people don't realize where you know if you may see one of us on podcasts that doesn't mean one of us is doing there's so much stuff that happens here and it's handled independently by each of us and typically around all of our strengths and I mean if I get the opportunity to be on a podcast by myself I feel so proud to be able to do something for my team like I get to do this to pay these guys back for the shit that they do that I don't you know contribute to and I think this is the attitude that this is the only attitude you can have for long term in my opinion success with the team otherwise it gets it gets it can be a little little weird you know yeah I think too I think it's uh sometimes it's refreshing for me to do that not that I don't I mean I love doing this all of us together but they're the it's different being interviewed by yourself than it is with the dynamic of the three of us there's there's a there's something about the three of us together that that's what makes the show mine pump what it is and then there's some there's something to be said about interviewing each one of us individually you get just something totally different so it's also a nice change of pace so it's a nice change of pace it's good practice for for each each of us and it's the way we have it structured and set up so someone wouldn't even have the option so there's a lot of people so I'm sure this person's saying this or asking this because you know they probably see us on our stories always sharing like oh this is an interview and it's oh it's just me or they see oh just Sal or oh just Justin it's like no we we set it up that way so sometimes people ask they would like to interview all of us matter of fact most people reach out and ask for that and you know the way we have told our team is just like it's too tough to try and coordinate all three of us to sit down an hour in our and our goal was to try and if someone wants us to be on the show we try our best to get get on it as many as we possibly can and do that so it's a lot easier for us to divide and conquer than it is for us to try and coordinate yeah no that's a good point too none of us were media you know guys when we started this we had no experience with media so practice for us is it's a it's a great opportunity so I I never turned down podcasts I don't care how small they are as long as I can fit in the schedule right I'll get on it because it's more practice it's more practice it's more practice and I feel like that's really the only way that we're ever going to be competitive with you know professional media experts you know who are who are here's a deal with fitness like you know we have the advantage because we know fitness very very well but when it comes to media you know there's media experts out there that you know I like a guy like Max Lugavir dude super smart great guy he's a lot of experience on camera when I watch him on camera I'm just like oh this guy so polished yeah and it's I can't compete with him the only way I'll ever get that good or have an chance to is by practice practice practice practice as much as possible so it's it's a great opportunity and with that go to mindpumpfree.com and download some of our free content we've got a bunch of free books and guides on there that you can check out you can also find all of us on Instagram you can find Justin at Mind Pump Justin you can find me at Mind Pump Sal and Adam at Mind Pump Adam