 Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique house, it's your boy, E.C.O. and I'm here with the lovely, amazing official, Ms. Jamaica. What's going on? Nothing, you know my dad walk on. Man, hey man, we got special guests in here today, man. He really don't need no introduction, man. If you're watching YouTube, man, you see Country Wayne, any of these other platforms. I even seen him. It looked like he was on the news, almost, when it was at some magazine and all kind of stuff, man. Michael Anthony? Yes, sir. What's going on, man? What's up, man? What's up, family? Good to see you, man. Thank you for coming. Thanks for having me. Yeah, man. So, I know the way we usually start, we got a little way that we start, man. We own, hey, make sure you guys like and subscribe to our channel, man. We trying to blow this thing up, man. I always say like the World Trade Center, but that's really blowing, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? So, just tell us a little bit about yourself, man. Let's get into it, right? Yes. We want to take it way back. Not just a little bit from a year ago. We need to take it way back as a child coming up. We want to know all of that. Oh, man. Ooh, we going back to Akron, Ohio, Spring Hill, West Side, Akron, Ohio, Spring Hill Projects, right by Lebron J, Same Street. Really? Yep, East Avenue, Same Street. Wow. That's cool. That's dope, dope. Did you know the family? I ain't going to say that. We wasn't like best friends, but you know, I definitely saw him, you know, I went to it. I've been to his house before, not his house, but when they stayed in the project. Okay. Yeah, I've been over there before. Always just, was just a different dude, you know. You already knew. Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't like, oh my God, like you knew. This dude is the only 18-year-old in the world. You can give $200 million to it, it ain't going to change him. Wow. Special. And that's rare. Yeah, he did that elementary school. That impressed me. You know, like when you start dealing with the kids and trying to find ways to, you know, do something that's that impactful, when you start dealing with trying to make sure that you place yourself in the midst of it, that's where it's at. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like everybody don't do that. Most people trying to find out something to try to push themselves up high, not to try to, you know. Jordan, Jordan. You knew I was going to do that. Jordan. I am not a Jordan fan at all. Wow, why not? I am not. I was always a Shaq and Kobe fan. Never a Jordan fan. Wow, yeah. Yeah, well, I was a Jordan fan. They ain't going to lie to y'all. I was Jordan fan too. I'm not going to play with y'all. I'm not going to lie to y'all. No, I was Jordan fan too, but you man LeBron, you know. I like the Honor Dogs. I remember, okay, I went to a game with him, with his mom and my boy, Dre, back in the day. Shouted Dre Gut and Glow. Went to the game with them. I think he was a senior. Okay. And it was like, you know, everybody was there. They had the reps sitting with her, Nike, Jordan and all them. How old was he then? He was 17. Okay, cool. High school senior. And I'm like, man, this dude watching them. I'm like, oh my God, this dude is, you know. After the game, we went back to a spot. Me, Dre, and Glow. LeBron went to eat with the reps, you know. So he came to the house. This is why I will fight somebody in the bar above LeBron. He came to the house. He came in here like a stout. You know, they poor. Yeah, yeah. All these magazines, they live in Spring Hood projects. He come home and he has a styrofoam that has shrimp and stuff. You know, all the stuff he got from the fixings from the restaurant. He sat it down in front of his mom. He opened it up. It was full. It hadn't been touched. He went to the cabinet. He put out some oatmeal, instant oatmeal, put some water in it, heated up. He ate that. Wow. And I was like, he didn't, he ain't going to, she said he always do that. When he gets, when they really give him something, he just bring it to me. He just eat what we got. That boy doesn't stay humble, man. So from that point of, so that's why I get, I get personal. I don't Facebook. You should. I'd be like, hey, meet me at, meet me at my house. Nobody ain't meeting you, Mike. Mike, nobody's meeting you, bro. I didn't know you were this big, man. No, I ain't nobody meeting you, man. You don't have to worry about that. I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a teddy bear, man. So have you always been this big growing up? I was always taller and I was big. I was fighting boys way older than me growing up. My mom is funny. She apologized to me. She was like, baby, I'm so sorry. You know, she was having me fighting these boys that she had no idea. It was like six or seven years older than me because I was the same size as them. But it helped me because, you know, he was my age. She had you fighting them. Oh, my mom was a gangster. My mom ain't playing no game. That sound like that movie I saw where the mama took, took him back out there and be like, no, you're going to fight. Come on, we're going to fight. That's her. No, she locked the door. Go out there and handle that. She ain't trying to hear it. And if you ever lost a fight, what would she do? Oh, I lost. I was losing all of them because they was, they was so stronger than me. We just was the same size. It was older, you know, but she would sit there. She told me, she said, she said, baby, because I was like, man, mom was cold. But she said, you know, I used to watch you get out there and just get your butt. But she said, I was just turning my face and cry and leave you out there. Because I knew, you know, you're a black man. So you had to deal with what you had to endure. So where was daddy during all this time? He was in my life, but he was, he had moved to Ohio. They had got their divorce separated. He moved to Ohio. So she knew because she was a single mother. And how old were you when they got divorced? I was 10. 10. How did it affect you when he left? I think it affected, I think, I think divorce. Now that I look back on it as a dough, I think it does affect how we view relationships, how we deal in relationships. But he was there. I can't sit here and say, my father was definitely there. You know, he, he just had to go out there and get his, you know, get his stuff together and get a job and everything. Because he was, we was doing, we was doing bad, man. You know, it was, it was rough. But it made you into the person that you are today. Exactly. So you wouldn't trade it for nothing? I wouldn't trade it for nothing. I ain't, listen, my mom, my mom was a gangsta. And, and, but she taught me, you know, it was a balance. She was rare because, you know, she would teach love and integrity. And, and, but she just was like, you ain't even to be no punk. So, you know. You had brothers and sisters? A little sister. A little sister. So you're the only boy. I'm the only boy. Me. So it was me, two boy cousins and like 20 girls. So he was always fighting. Like, well, when I would go to Ohio, my uncle Joe, shout out to Uncle Joe. I was probably going to laugh and to see this, but he would have a list. Cause I, cause now I live in Buffalo. So when I would go to Ohio, he peeped me up from the, from the Greyhound bus station and say, all right, this boy did this to your cousin. He had a list. And I had to go fight these boys. It's a wonder you didn't end up being a boxer or something. How far? I didn't mix martial arts. You did? How old were you when you got into that? That was 2003. I was a Scambri County, um, DT champion in Scambri County. So you didn't lose any more fights after that? Oh, I lost. When you win, you lose. See, people don't know about the mixed martial arts fighting. You know, you win, but you still lose. How? You get beat up. Yeah, cause of the injuries. Yeah, when you block a punch, see people, when you watching on TV and somebody block a punch or a kick, you're like, oh, he blocked it. But this still hurts. Yeah, it hurts you. And she is, you know. Let's go in a tub of ice after you get done. Man, listen. Oh, man. So you, when you was young like that and coming up, you said the projects. And so how the projects up there, was it like every other project? When you hear Callio or when you hear about the projects here in Dallas, you know, whether it be over there at Bond Town, 007 in the South or when you hear about stuff like when you go to Atlanta. Go to Cali and Festa. Yeah, like in Vegas, when we live, we live in Doolittle when I lived in Vegas. So how is it like for the projects where you were from? Uh, in New York, it was, you know, the buildings were high. So it was more condensed. I think that's what the violence was so different, because it was like you really couldn't get away from people. You know, it's like all the building, you all live on top of each other. So you got these small stairwells and elevators and, you know. Pretty bad. Pretty bad. The building I live in now, we got Concierre. Ain't no fight going on in there, but you know, security is just, you know, you had to deal with your problems. I think it made, like I said, made me who I am today, because you had to, it wasn't on running from it. You had to deal with it. You got a bully, you know, you don't see him every day on elevators. You're going to have to throw some salt in his eye and get him out the way. Yeah. Yeah, you got to work. You got to fight dirty. Yeah, yeah. I say it in Vegas. I never forget it. I used to have to fight every day a lot of times in the projects because they were going to bring it. Every day you go outside, it's somebody looking to get to you and bring it. A lot of times you were starting it though. Oh, she was there from the beginning, y'all. Yeah. Go ahead and tell us this. You know, she was not there from the beginning. That was when she was young. I heard the stories. I know all of the stories. You look like a fight story. Yeah. When you basically, when you around all of these people, you know what I'm saying? You got to keep yourself amused. Some kind of way to see me. He was a bully. We know who the bully was. Not a bully. Not a bully. Just always trying to figure out who was tripping in the neighborhood. Here's this metal song. Yeah. You know what that's like. So most of my fights, when I was younger, all of my fights about me, always because I was kind of like Chris Rock. I was saying the wrong joke. I would like mess with people. You know what I'm saying? But I didn't mean to harm. But you know, I would just mess with you. Damn, you get mad and say, you threatened me. I'm like, what's up? I got me. You got to get it. As he's talking about at Chris Rock, because I was going to event, he brought it up. So I'm going to go ahead and tackle it right now. What are your views on what happened at the Oscars with Chris Rock and Will Smith? Wait a minute. I don't want to ask him like that because I heard his views. I went on his Instagram. But I understood what he was saying and your perception of it. But I don't know what he said. I know we about to get into it, but it just was funny to me how you broke it down. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You know what? So being an actor has taught me to be a more empathetic person. Okay. That's right. And also with my mom transitioning with the heaven, I went through this phase of life where I was kind of mad at God, because I didn't realize that death is a misunderstood reality. So I had separate... You can't separate from God, first of all. You think you can, but you can't. But I went on this... I just was like, ah, I wasn't praying, I wasn't doing nothing. And then once I got back, it came back to life. And really, I went on this spiritual journey across the world. I just became more empathetic and realized that, man, everybody has a lens they're looking through. Exactly. You know, it makes me treat my woman different, because I understand that this is a woman. And she ain't supposed to look at it like I'm looking at it. You know, I'd have bought her this watch and $14,000 watch and this room, this cabin and took us a trip to here and all this stuff. And then she said, baby, you didn't give me any flowers. And my mom, I was like, what the hell? You tell me some damn flowers for a girl. That's a Cartier watch. But... But she don't care about that. That's her lens. Right. With all that being said, I look at both guys. I am... Wayne's turning me into a comedian. I've always been a comedian, like a hood comedian. My partners thought I was funny, my family. But Wayne is cultivating me to become a real comedian where you go on stage and I'm in training. You know, he's got me into the skits as we all know and he's... I've always been funny, but he's like teaching me to put it out there and be confident and say, hey, you know what? I'm a comedian. So, even before that, I've always loved the art of comedy. Okay. Not this nuke shit. Yeah. I'm talking about the real comedy where you go up there and you say anything. The Patrisso Nils, the Corey Hockums, the Phazon I love. The Bernie Macs. The Bernie Macs. The D.L. Hughes. Yeah. Robin Williams. Yeah, Robin Williams. You know, so that's real comedy. Comedy is... comedy is the thing that hurts. Or the thing that we don't... What do you want to say it? Because we know that... We know that lady is... I don't want to say fat. Yeah, yeah, she big. Somebody might want to come in. But we know it. Mm-hmm. Like the picture... I'm going to give the worst myth. But the picture of the lady from the Me Too movement. Y'all know who she is? I think so, yeah. You know what she look like? Me Too movement. Who started the Me Too movement? Damn. Watch his face. I'm going to show you what comedy is. The Me Too movement. You both just said these... Oh, damn. Now, y'all see that? That's comedy. Okay. Wow. She said, okay. But I'm a woman. It's different. See, different lens. Now, comedy is this. I took her picture. And I was trying to prove a point to somebody. And I posted it in my store as I said, this is the woman who started the Me Too movement. That's all I said. And a bunch of women came in my comments and was like, oh, don't you... You know, you better not. And don't you dare... And I said, you know what y'all just did? All I said was, this is the woman that started the Me Too movement. And because you think she's unattractive, you try to push it on me. Comedy is the truth. Right? The truth that nobody want to say. So that's my job. That's the job. My job is to say the things that we all know, but we don't want to say it. Because if I'd have posted Beyonce and said, this is the woman that started the Me Too movement, they wouldn't have said nothing. So that's what the audience is that. Yes. The audience is people that say, that's not right. You shouldn't say that. And I'm the person that says, look at this motherfucker's face. That's the comedian. It makes you a superhero, right? Yeah. So I understand, we're looking at Jada and she ball-headed. Right. It's not a big deal to be ball-headed. A lot of days it doesn't matter. But Chris Rock was just trying to be funny. Exactly. He made fun of other people, right? Made fun of people. And that's a light joke. Now, here's the thing. What if she had cancer? This is the risk about comedy. What if she had cancer? Wow. You see what I'm saying? It's a risk. That's comedy is a very... You think rapping is... Comedy is dangerous. Very dangerous. Because I got to just say it. If Wayne sees something, if we do a skit and not coming in and anything off, you know... That could offend somebody. No, no. He's going to say it. If I got a bump right... He's going to say it. He'll say, don't have it for the skit. I'm going to say something. That's his job. That's what makes it special. That's a community. Anyway, so let's say that was the case, right? Really human being. Now, that wasn't the case. It was alopecia. Right. Here's what really happened. What really happened is, and I'm about to go deep and I went on Instagram, Will Smith already said, man, since I was a kid, I always felt weak because I watched my mama get hit and I ain't doing nothing about it. Okay. I felt like a coward. He said that. Now, you fast forward. So that... Your woman... I can't see where you're going with it. Goes on to the red tabletop. Until late... We talking about this Will Smith. 30, 40 million dollars a movie. We looking... We like, oh, my God. So we can hide behind that a little bit. Then your woman come on and say, you know, I got this younger guy. My man don't even please me in the bed no more. So now, let's just be honest. If LeBron James... If Savannah came, I said, LeBron is six foot nine, 270 pounds, but he got to be in the sausage. I ain't calling the nigga King James no more. It's just kind of take... You know what I'm saying? Like, man, LeBron gonna look... Oh, man. Right? Right. So now, Will's back into that space again. Wow. Watching his mama, because now your wife is putting it to the world and everybody on them. Man, Will, you a sucker. Man, you a bitch. Man, this man from Philadelphia. Born and raised. Yeah. Born and raised. I spent most of my day. So it's something in there. You know what I'm saying? And he's an alpha. Because to get to that point, you got to be an alpha to get to LeBron. Michael Jordan is something in you. Yeah. So now, here I am, in front of the world, he's telling the jokes. And that's what we do. He's a celebrity. We laugh. And I look over and I see her reaction and she's hurt. My mama getting hit. What am I going to do? Because if he wouldn't slap him, we would have said, man, Will's a bitch, man. Look, he talking about his wife and shit. She all sad. You laughing? Yeah. So it was like the pressure's on. I got, this is very inappropriate. I done did. I'll be the, I'll be the benign at the funeral one time. So I can't judge nobody. But this is inappropriate. But I got to go slap fire at this man. When I beat that man up at the funeral, I knew it was inappropriate. But I said, I got to lock the door. I'm outside with the booty. I got to do this. So we was put into a position. So wasn't inappropriate. And then Will Packer is my man. That's my big bro. Will Packer, the first person from TV. Will Packer, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I felt bad it happened on his day. Because he basically had produced it. Produced it. And Will's a great guy. And I was like, damn. But I understand. You can't put me in a, I don't care where we at. You know what I'm saying? And like I said, Chris Wright wasn't wrong. Yeah. He's doing his job. He's a comedian. Comedians. Who do Wayne talk about all the time? His family. His family. His self. His self. And he being real. Like, I was with Wayne one time on the road, right? And we went to, he got a new baby mama. Went to her house. The lady came in there with the child's poor thing. 4,000. I had, I was one of the people that signed and said, we here. Showed her ID. And the girl was saying, I'm going to sue you. They got to a little back and forth and this and that. And then we went to the show. And that night, he was like, hey, y'all. The reason why this is the first city, y'all, because I find I got a baby mama here. So I come here and use it when that time stops working. And everybody laughing. But I'm like, this is really, this is really happening. Right. That's comedy. But you see, when people take, when he tell a joke like that, people are looking at like, he not really see it. I think it's just a joke. It's serious. Yeah. Everything Wayne's on that stage. It's for real. But you got to understand and just, just tapping into what happened with Will again. I have a question about it. Do you think that Will should apologize? Um, he should apologize because he was wrong. But he was right. I know it sound crazy. It sound crazy. He was wrong technically. Because what he did, aiming to do it, Chris Rock. Yeah. So what I would say is, Chris, man, listen, bro, you know how this world is we live in. I've done, I've been the perfect, I've been almost Jesus all this long. Yeah. He didn't even curse in the rap. I ain't even cursing my rap. It's Chris. And everybody, my girl telling everybody, I got a little thing. Yeah. She messing with Augusta Sina. My kids and they, I don't know what the hell they got going on. And everybody clowning me. And you came at the wrong time, bro. I'm sorry. Is that how he's supposed to apologize right there? Bro. That's like all of them apologize. Because it's like, it's not Chris Rock. No, it's not. It's not. All that, all that stuff I talked about, that was dead. Because that's what a comedian is supposed to do. Yeah. And when I heard the, when I heard the joke, it wasn't this day's fault because at the same time, he might not have known that she had alopecia. He didn't know. Right. So you couldn't really just blame him for something like that. Well, at the end of the day it happened. Like, how do we pay, how are we going to move on? And Will was laughing. Will smirked when he walked away. Well, he laughed. The smirk was No, when he walked away, he slapped him. I seen that. But the smirk was I beat the man up to hit my mama. That's what it was. I did it. It was like, I'm a man. Because we have been tearing Will's masculinity down as a society. All the black folk out there that's saying he was wrong, we have been tearing Will down. Yeah. We've been tearing him down. But we know he slapped a dude one time. You know, when he was trying to get back. Yeah, but he said I should have went on whooped his nigga. He slapped the pebbles out of Chris Rodman. Niggas say a lot of stuff when he ain't around. I wonder how he didn't end up on the ground though. It wasn't that hard to say. But I said he should have been on the ground, bro. He should have been. He said, See, if he'd have popped them on the hook, see, you got to pop them inside of his head. He knows, see. You can tell him he's playing. Yeah, when you want to take them all the way out, you got to hit them on the side. Because that temple and that impact. He kept his head. It's just a lie. It's a lie. It's just a pop. It's a warning. It's just a pop. Because it sounded really loud. It was not. It didn't hurt him. It's a shock. When you hit somebody like this with this. You hit him with these hair. That's just a little I'm going to let you know I really don't respect you. Yeah. When you hit him with all this. Yeah. See them calluses. Yeah. Put them calluses across that nigga. And nigga, you're going to have to talk no more. When you knock your head off his neck, the body will fall. Amen. How many times did you because everybody did it? I watched it over and over again. How many times did you pause? I was like, yeah, I've seen Chris kind of lean into it. All of that. Because people were wondering was the stage, was it fake, was it real? It was beautiful. I'm sorry. The form. The form was beautiful. The form was beautiful because we'll see as a fighter. When he popped in, see most people, they just throw this. Will had the hand up. If you watch it, watch it. Oh. He popped it. I didn't realize that. I said, oh, Will could fight. Chris lucky he didn't try to fight back. He whooped his ass. Yeah, well, that bring up another son. Let me say this. That bring up another son. You're going to say exactly what I said. That boy Shannon Sharpe said that if he, listen, Shannon Sharpe said it couldn't have been him. No. Because he said if he came up there and he'd hit him, he said, oh, we'd have told that place up. Everybody. Everybody. Then he said, if he came, it'll be on site. But some of the different type of dude, that's Shannon Sharpe. You even, first of all, you even go try to slap Shannon Sharpe. And you got good sense. He's ready. He is a country boy. You're just laughing no country boy across his face. I'm a country boy. I'll be honest with you. I'll get to you. You got to. Yeah, yeah. It's going to happen. If I see you, I can get to you. Everybody said that would fight everybody who's seen it. If I can get to you, you can get it. I wouldn't have let him least rock paint behind the front. Life. You even slapped T.K. Kirkland. Yeah, T.K. Kirkland going to come over with it. You even slapped Corey Hokel. You did not put to slap Corey Hokel. Dean Cole. You said they won't. Dean Cole on the tub. He put Chicago. You didn't slap with Dean Cole. You damn serving. Mike Emps like that. You didn't even slap me cultural way, cuz I'm going to come out there and straighten your ass. But it's over, right? But he does do a lot of talking like he really about that, you know, like he just, yeah, he don't mind. He don't talk, he don't talk like he was somebody else. It really be the white crowd he trying to appeal to. But he speak up for us to the white crowd. Yeah, yeah. Chris Rock is like Dave Chappelle. Dave Chappelle ain't gonna fight you. If you slap Dave Chappelle, the same shit would happen. Damn. Dave Chappelle ain't gonna fight, but they are, their strength is in what they're saying. They're brave. Like to me, Chris Rock is still, I still look at him, you know, who is hard? Anybody else I don't know if I would still respect him. I do respect Chris Rock because I know who he is. Yeah. But what about, what does this career go from here? Cause I heard them teases in Dublin. I heard they up to 400 now. I heard they went from $70 to $400. Of course, because they know he gonna talk about it. We wanna hear him talk about it. Chris Rock is a real comedian. He even talk about it. He not gonna get on stage and talk about everything but that he gonna be like, he gonna make it funny. Cause that's who we do. And he not gonna put it on social media or nothing. You gonna pay to come see it. He gonna be like, and that's the good thing about comedy. Comedians don't stand the dog house long like rappers do. You know, rappers gotta be tough and all that shit. I used to be a rapper. Yeah, we're gonna get into that. I love this life so much better. It's way better. It's better. Cause I can just express, comedians are expressive. I don't gotta wear sunglasses in the club in the dark. No, that's stupid shit. You know what I'm saying? We can really talk about our real feelings. So when Chris talk about, he gonna talk about how scared he was, how shocked he was, and it's gonna be funny because funny is the truth. Like I said earlier, it's true. He ain't gonna just tell everybody else it's true. He talked about him cheating on his wife. Yeah, yeah, and he did. That's what comedy is. You know what I'm saying? So that's crazy. He'll be all right. Let me ask you about the rap. You brought it up a little bit. So let's get into it. I seen you, man. I seen you. Not only a rapper, it seemed almost R&B. Yeah, R&B. You know what I'm saying? R&B gangsta. Yeah, R&B gangsta. I said, damn, he going in. Cause at first I looked at it and I seen gunplay on them. I'm like, I need for to go in. Then when I listened to it, we started listening. I just let it play in cause it kept going after you bit it on the plane. He's always about the ladies. Yeah, so what, how did you end up linking with gunplay? I was trying to figure it out. You was hanging with Rick Rawls and gunplay and then I'm down there some kind of way? Nah, I was like the Nate Dogg of Florida. Okay. So I was a street dude, but I sang. So all the hooks, Iceberg and Briscoe and, you know what I mean? Anybody had something coming out, Time G, all the different Florida rappers, Papa Duck. You know, I was the guy that was giving hooks and you know, singing about the gangsta shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And yeah, did you, how long did you do that though? Cause when I looked it was like in 2010 or something like that. So how long did you stay in there? I got signed in 2010 to Slippin' Slide Records. But before that, I was on the, yeah, Ted Lucas shot to my big one, Ted Lucas and Julian and Milk, all them guys down there. But yeah, that was my family. I signed with them in 2010. But I had been doing the, cause I was hustling before that. And I had got a name in the state and they came up to Mobile, you know what I'm saying? From Miami and I drove from Pensacola and performed in front of them in front of the crowd. And it was like, oh yeah, fly down to Miami tomorrow, I flew down to Miami. But the contract, at the time I was, you know, getting street money. And they was trying to give me this contract. And I'm like, pfft, a lot of much. As contractual. I ain't doing this shit. You did that on the skits. I was like, yeah, I just ain't gonna work. So I didn't sign, but then, you know, man, on my mom transition, I just like lost myself. And how old were you when she transitioned? 29. Yeah, I was about 23. 29, my place got, both my business got reposed, my townhouse got, I got evicted. I had like my credit score. Everything went, God stop living. You know what I'm saying? I was homeless before I knew it. And then when I called, I was trying to get back on my feet, trying to get back, moving again, once, you know, after about a year or two. And then the guy I called, the DJ I called, he was like, yo, DJ Smalls. Okay, yeah, DJ Smalls. Shout out DJ Smalls. Shout out DJ Smalls. He don't even know, but that conversation we had, he was like, he changed my life. Cause he was like, man, I said, I'm ready, I'm ready to get it going. I'm out, yo, I'm broke. I'm living in the 97, 20, Corolla. I'm thinking I'm hiding in the city, no, I ain't got no damn money. I'm like, what's up, y'all? They like, broke in. Mike, Mike, come in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Eddie Cainan. That's it. I thought I was killing him. I think, they don't know. They knew. And he was like, man, Mike, I was trying to give him to do a mixtape for me for freaking I had no money. I said, bro, I need you hosting mixtape for me. I'm gonna jump back out of there. He's like, Mike, and I told him my real situation. He's like, bro, you ain't got the money to push this mixtape. If I do it for you, you can't be out here selling CDs by yourself, that's not. It's not like. It ain't gonna work. He was like, you need to cost them a slide and see if they still want to sign you and take the deal. So that's what I did. Roy Jones Jr., I had a case. Shout out Roy Jones Jr. Roy Jones, that's my bro, man. That's one of my first mentors in the entertainment industry. How'd you know me? Man, when I got to Florida. Did I skip something we shipped for the go into that I needed to go into? No, I want to hear about Roy Jones, man. I'm a big Roy Jones fan. At his just pinnacle of where he was at, man, I'd have put him up against anybody in his weight class and I was gonna ride with him. Here, dawg. Roy is a different human being. I thought I was a tough admins. Wasn't Roy Jones like Jamaican apart, Jamaican or something? Oh, here we go. Let me do this, man. In every episode. I wouldn't be surprised if he ever had one. He'd put a rooster. So he'd be hanging with the jigs here. What's that? I got some stories about Roy, man. Roy ain't no punk. How'd you meet him? I met Roy. How did I meet them? I started coming around when I moved to Florida, coming around in their labor. They had body head and I was like, you know, I was like, yo, I was carrying bags. I just want to be a part of it. And Roy, he took to my honesty. You know what I'm saying? Same thing with Wayne. Like, you know, when you got a guy that's taking care of everybody, people tend to just, they always kissing their ass to tell them what they want to hear. And I told Roy something one time that I ain't gonna share, but something that I disagree with that happened. And I wasn't like trying to check him or nothing because I was a little bro. But he peeped at it. You know what I'm saying? And I remember, he just took to me. You know what I'm saying? He liked me and I learned so much from him. He was a good dude, man. Took me in a role with him. Yeah, real good dude. So he was at a lot of those fights? I didn't go to a lot of the fights. I was at a lot of the fights. You was on the body head and the head that must have forgotten all that. Yeah, I was on the videos. Wow, I gotta go back, man. I gotta go back. Now I'm way in the back. I'm like, do you want to see me? I'm in the back. I'm in the back, man. I'm in the back. I'm in the shadows. I'm already in the back. Now I go in the back. So like, when you, how did you meet country Wayne? I gotta get into that too. And hold on, what did you wanna do as a kid growing up? Is this, because you went from martial arts to boxing, to rapping, to like, what is it that you wanted to do? Entertainer. Just entertainer. Just entertainer. I'm like, Sammy Davis drink. So you always wanted to do that? Mm-hmm. Cause I was a kid. I just wanted to be a famous singer. I just wanted to be an actor. I just wanted to entertain. Because it was different back in the days than it is now. Like back in the days, people only wanted to be like an actor or a singer or this. Now it's like, you have to be an artist which is everything all in one now. That's it. So it's different. Yep. So the, can I get into the country Wayne question? But let me say this. That's why when I went and saw Ted, he told me, he said, Mike, when I signed you, I knew you was a star. Wow. I just didn't know what to do with you because you did too much. You did too much. I got a guy like that. I love him. I don't know what you, he's like, you telling jokes on your page and he singing to you, rapping to you, boxing to you. He's like, I knew you was a star, but he said, bro, I didn't know what to do with you. Damn. So like the time now is like, everything is coming just to full circle because it's like, oh, now this is, this fits into my head. This is in your industry of what it is. Man, it is new. The thing I, when I first seen you was really like my first time seeing you. I'm being real. And when I seen you, I was like, man, what is he doing on here now? But you didn't look as big on there for some reason. I don't know what the hell, the camera's tripping. So like you look bigger in person than you do on there, but- But they always say you're supposed to look bigger on camera than you do on camera. No, this is backwards. So, but as you all, Yeah, I promise it is, but when you- It's the angles. Yeah. When you and country won't admit, or how did y'all, how did you even make it to meet him? Like, so Chase, his brother doing a bridge. Shout out to Chase Walker. Chase Walker. Chase Walker is the, first of all, let me give him his flowers. The camera, you know how, that's all the iPhone. That's dope. One iPhone. I have that whole filming. Can't nobody do what he do with that. That's Chase. I've always heard that you can do really great skits with an iPhone. But you can't, can't up like- Everybody can't do it. Can't nobody, can't nobody- I had a camera guy like that. Remember, Tyler's like that. Jay Tyler's like that. There's no cutting. There's not no like, hold on. There's one camera, and he's catching the reactions and the- He's serious about it. He's using a tripod too. He's using a little- Yeah, yeah, that's for you. Yeah, gimbal. Right. Can't, listen, can't nobody do that like he do. I told Wayne, I told Wayne the other day, I was like Wayne, bro. And Wayne was like, him and Wayne together, they just- Make magic. They make magic. And they've taught me that they brought me in and they kind of cultivated me to show me a different, it's a different form. I'm a trained actor, but this is a different form because it's not, usually how we do one take- And then you cut- A wide- Right. We're gonna go medium, boom. Okay, we're gonna get your close up, bro. Yeah, yeah. You know, we can every, so that you're catching everything. But what this is like- It makes it so much easier too. No, it's harder. It's harder like this. It's way harder. Y'all don't, y'all have to do over and over. I mean- No, no. You do one take. But editing is easier. Editing is easier. Right. One take, I thought it would be easier than all these- It's like a live show. Ain't no cut. Ain't no cut. It's like a live show. It's live. If somebody messes on one thing, it could be perfect. If I say one thing wrong, I can't say that because, you know, we gotta start over. But how many times do y'all feel that? It makes you good. It makes you better. How can you do that, though? For us, our chemistry, probably once or twice. Yes, okay. But because, you know, like Ro, she been doing it for a while with them, you know. So the chemistry, it don't take us long. But how did you come into that? It was the camera guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We don't get it. We don't get it. So it was the camera guy that brought you in. Did he call you? Or how did that happen? Were you in Atlanta? Or were you in Florida? Where were you at? I don't know how the hell they found me. I was in Atlanta. But Chase hit me up like, yo- And he known you how long before that? Well, I'm known in Atlanta as an actor. Like in the acting world. No, but Chase knew knew you. No, we didn't know each other like that. So I was actor of the year, AAC, Greenlit. Was that the magazine? I keep thinking about that, yeah. So I'm known in the acting community of Atlanta very well, though. So he knew who I was, you know, but we weren't like friends or anything like that. He was like, are we doing this skit? And in my mind, I'm like, I'm an actor. I don't know if I should do this skit. That's right. That actor voice, you know. I'm gonna act right up this year. I'm gonna be dumbing myself down for this thing. Some people probably would think that skits are below that. No, no, no, no. They know some people. Most people. Most people. Yeah, because they was like, Mike, what are you doing? Like, bro, you work so hard. And I was just like, I'm just, you know, me, honestly, I'm being rude, John. I told Wayne this. I said, bro, when I came on, I had no idea. Like Faizan. Oh, we gonna be like- I had no idea. Cause you're wearing this huge. Yeah. Were you watching him before? You actually- I had seen him before. But we didn't think nothing about it. I was like, oh, he doing the internet stuff. Internet stuff. Because we old. Yeah. Faizan old as hell. Faizan, we asked that question. When I asked Faizan, I basically was big up in the fact that comedy has taken so many different avenues. And when I was asking him that, I did not know that he would feel it like, tell me, hey, man, that's that other shit. But I didn't know. But that's why I asked him the dinosaur. Hey, how do planes making money? You talking about the big old metal things behind the sky? No, I mean, no sense. So I understand, my mind was like, ah, it skits. And I told Wayne, I'ma do it to get some followers. I'm like, you know, let me get some more followers on my page so I can get my verification, you know? And at that time, how many followers did you have? I had 111,000. Okay. When I met Wayne. So I do the first skit with him. I was supposed to come and be Blake's daddy. Okay. I was supposed to do part three or four and be gone. Yeah. Okay. I remember that episode when you came and Blake, I was like, oh, I was in and out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, me and, man, not just Wayne, but because his team is his family, his brothers, Harvey and Tay, his kids, and then Ro, it's a family. And I just fit right in. I just fit and I felt like, like I knew these people forever. You know what I'm saying? Wayne, I don't meet dudes and be like, man, this is like my brother, man. I really love that dude. Yeah. Like he's a, he is a, let me tell you something. That genuine spirit, that's what it is. You ain't gonna meet no celebrity at that. And this is the thing. This is why people don't think he's so big, like Faizan. Cause of how he care yourself. Yeah. He ain't walking around with 1100 chains on the net. He taking care of 700 people. Wow. Why he take care of his whole family? And he's still living like a king. When I went to that nigga house, I say, nigga, what else you do? I thought nigga was still selling dope. And that wasn't a new house that he just bought. No, he just got a new house. Right. He got a million dollars in furniture. I bought that new house. That's what threw me off. Cause he was like, yo, we gonna, yo, we want to bring you on full time. And I was like, all right, cool. I'll do it, I'll do it for a time. Cause I, first of all, it was just the chemistry with them and I was, it was fun. You know, I went to that nigga house. I was like, okay, what else do you do? Wow. So as we, as I got closer to him, he started, cause you know, yeah, cause he want everybody to win. He like, bro, you got 270,000 followers. You ain't making no money. Are you crazy? I'm like, I can make money. He showed you. He showed me. And when I tell you, Phazon on the wood the hill he talking about. There are so many different avenues nowadays compared to what it was. Now Phazon spoke on the residuals that he make. Let me tell you something about residuals. He's Phazon say he got residuals. I'm telling you. Didn't he say that? Cause he's been doing work. Ever since, ever since Friday. Okay, let's talk about residuals. Let's talk about residuals. Compared to what you're doing now. In the nineties, your residuals ain't shit right now. Unless it's friends. Y'all know, I get residuals. I'm a professional actor. So yeah, okay, I get, I made, I did Raising Deion. I did about 125,000 off of that, something like that. As when the residuals come in, they get smaller. Yeah. It's time to go longer. That's the reality. As any actor, it go all the way down. You get a check for six cents. I've got a check for six cents before. That's bullshit. That's a waste of people. Don't know residuals come in from the nineties and you just like, oh, I'm just sitting back and all this money. That's some bullshit. I'm an actor. We a lot of people tell them that cause we don't want to let people know. That I'm a comedian. I'm gonna keep it real. But he says, but he says, his friends on the Ford list to do comedy. Okay, let's talk about numbers. We ain't got to talk about Googling before. Let's talk numbers. Okay. The skits. Let's say you got, let's say you got a hair business and you got a clothing business, right? Okay. And y'all, how do TV, how do you make money on TV? How does TV show to make money? Is it because of the people that's picked up and the network paid? Ads. Ads. Ads, yeah. Commercials and ads and how you make money. I get it. Okay, boom. You got your hair. You got your clothing. We a, we gonna make a move. We got to invest in some ads. Snowfall is the number one show on FX. Right now. Great show. Five million views a week. Five, that's a lot. Right. Right? They got 10 episodes. Let's get the calculator out. So five million. Times 10. Times 10. It's 50 million views. Now, hold on. Y'all ain't made our decision yet. Y'all still shopping around. Now Country Wayne does a million views a day. So that's seven million views a week. But the difference is he ain't got 10 episodes. He got 52 weeks. So times 52. That's 364 million views. Now let me ask you with your hair business. Who you gonna put your money? Who y'all putting your ass on? I'm gonna put my ass on Country Wayne. Exactly. So that's what I'm saying. So times is different. Times and times. So what happens is when you, and I understand what Phaselons come from because Phaselons are alpha male. Right. You know what I'm saying? When you talk about, when you talk about basketball somebody from the LeBron era, we wanna make sure our era stand strong. Man, Jordan, Jordan. Jordan's 66, 196 pounds. For show. LeBron is 69270 and jumped the same height. Evolution is a motherfucker. You talking about David Robinson. Kevin direct the same size as David Robinson. Shooting from half court. It's evolution. But you know, we as men, we got this thing called ego. We wanna make sure our shit. Man, I know this, I know that. We ain't done though. We ain't done. So basically he getting paid from Facebook, Instagram and YouTube, right? He's making. He don't get paid from TikTok or any of those avenues yet? Cause it's not long enough. He do three minutes. So he's making $450,000 a month from the social media. I seen it. I ain't talk about, this ain't no, this ain't no Google, this ain't no, I've seen it. You live it. Yeah, we live it. I'm getting, listen, this is 55. I live it. He live it. He live this. I'm getting some of that money too. So just so y'all know. This is an AP bust down. This is 90, I mean, I'm not trying to brag. I'm just saying. I know, I get it. This is social media money. Now, I got money like Wayne. But anyway, so. And there should be motivation for any of y'all who try to come up. Everybody who's trying to get old. It's motivation. Right. Because I want, my thing is I'm not, I'm not saying I'm not trying to attack phase on. Right. I'm not trying to brag. I hate that we as a people are always the last to know how to get the damn money. Exactly. And that's the good thing about this episode is that people will be able to look at it and say, I need to investigate how I can get me educated about platforms. Some people know how, but it's too scary to get up off there behind to tackle it. That's really what it is. You need to get off your behind. Because it's on your phone. I can do it wherever you at. This is TV. Everybody. This is the new TV. Let me ask you a question. I hear Gary Vaynerchuk say that a lot. I said it all the time. Let me ask you a question. Now you say, forget the views. How many times, how much time you sit down and watch TV in the day? When I eat, that's it. That's it. How many times you put this thing up? I force myself to do it too. How many times you pick this thing right here? All day long. That's why everybody got a podcast. That's because it's evolution people. If you want to ride a horse from New York to California, that's your damn business. I'm getting on a plane. What's this nigga talking about? Exactly. Let me tell you something. We ain't done. So that's 450,000 a month. So 450,000. And Wayne didn't want me to do this because Wayne would be like. I already know it. Let me tell you how Wayne is. Wayne, he's like. We ain't got to explain this to him. There's so many people hating on Wayne right now and I'd be like, bro, he'd be like. Well, why didn't he hit on him because he seemed like, Why'd I hit on him, Brian? Because you had to top. You had to top. You got to get, yeah. I'm gonna tell you what, I'm about to show you what I hate on him. That's 5.4 million from Institutional Media. Okay. Now, as comedian saying, Wayne ain't no, man, he ain't no real comedian. Oh, what you got to do? Do stand-up comedy, right? That's right. Let's talk about that. Matter of fact, I'll come to the show this weekend. We're on the 30th to be accused of, I can't talk to tickets. Oh, my tickets, we're coming. Awesome. You got it. You want to come to it? We got every ticket. We're coming, we're coming. So now that's 5.4 million, right? We are on a 30 city tour with Live Nation. Wayne is just Wayne. And I ain't gonna say no other comedians names cause some of these other comedians are some of my favorite comedians. They're doing packet shows. If you look on right now, I want you to find one comedian. Find one black comedian right now that's doing shows by itself. You ain't gonna find it. Wayne does clean comedy cause he's a hustler. And Wayne, when you go to Wayne's show, you have people in their 20s who love drip all the way to their 60s from church cause he don't curse. That's right. So when we go to these shows, and I tell Wayne, I tell him, bruh, like you shock it because I'm with him every day and he's so, he's so regular. He just chilling. And when you go to these shows, you're like, this nigga is like Michael Jackson. When Wayne come out, I'm talking about these is he's selling out theaters. They paying this man $75,000 a night. We got 30 guaranteed. Let's do the math on that. We ain't done it. So that's $75,000. That's a lot. Yeah. Times 30. And how often does he does shows? We doing 30, we doing weekend. So that's, so that's 2.2 plus 4.5 million. Sorry, Wayne, telling you to bend it. So now we at, we had about $7 million. Right? Wow. Now we ain't gonna talk about the investments. So Wayne this year- First you gotta pay everybody. Now I'm talking about the investments he's invested. So now we looking at them, the endorsements. Then we ain't talking about the money for every time he do a video. Like we was in, for instance, we see him do a video with, and he, a rapper or somebody he featuring, they paid for that spot, 15,000. When we ate the lot, we was eating the shrimp and all that stuff when we was in Louisville. He paid Wayne 15,000 for that skit to tag him. We ain't talking about that money. Wayne is going to, is at $10 million this year. Just this year. Wayne is 34. When Kevin Hart was 34, he was at 7.5 million. What is these niggas talking about? A man. What is these niggas, we talking about for? That's the same I'm saying. So Forbes list you gotta start somewhere. At 34 years old, 10 million, and the biggest comedian right now, Kevin Hart was at 7.5. And Wayne didn't even put a movie out yet. What? He didn't even put a movie out yet. When I tell you that Hollywood is, they knocking at the door, not like this. They banging at the door. They knocking like the feds. Trying to get that boy in there. Because if I can make 10 million dollars and I don't even got to leave my cell phone, you know what they thinking, ooh. Wow. We'll put up a hundred million in them. Yeah, but the way how y'all move, I can see him doing his own movie. We already shot it. Oh. So you know better. Okay, but we already shot it. Right, rather than going through them, just do everything yourself. To convince, to convince everybody, you know like, you know that this is the route to go. Because everybody can't do this though, first of all. Let me back up a little bit. Everybody can't do this, bro. And it looks simple because I see it, but I understand because of the world that I've built around me. And I know that people look at the finishing of what one does and think it's easy. I'm telling you. It's a gift, but you know what? Everybody does have a gift that can be shown to me money off of.