 Well, my coaching journey kind of started way back, like, in high school, I could say, you know what I mean? You know how, like, when you play, okay, so I played football. Well, I actually played three sports in high school. I was a triathlete, but kind of football was like my main thing. But when it came down to it, like, just training and preparing for not only football, but just being able to transition from football to basketball, and then from basketball to track. You have to train and use your body in different ways. Like I call it movement training, skills training. So just having to do that so repeatedly, like over my high school career, I just kind of just grew a love for and then, you know, kind of just let me know. I went on to play football at Georgia State. And then from there, it just kind of like, I always kind of knew I had to kind of coach in the back of me. Like, even when I was on the field, like, my teammates looked at me as kind of like a coach on the field. So it just kind of came naturally to me. And then once I graduated from college and just kind of getting the feel for life is more so. You tend to always get back to your passion and kind of what you love. And it is for me, my passion is just giving back. But I know so much about training and just like sports in general. So just being able to actually give back what I learned growing up and everything I have learned from training and playing different sports, just being able to give back to the youth. And I guess my own form of fashion. I guess that's kind of why that's why I created my business. That kind of what helped me grew my business is just me being genuine and kind of giving what I love to give. And that just knowledge about training and different sports, most of. Nice. So tell us a little bit. What does your business specialize in? I'm being specialized in skills and movement training for a variety of sports. Right now lately, I've been mainly working with football players and lacrosse players. But it's more so, I just want to say, yeah, all around training for an athlete. Like development, not only in, I just footwork and do to be also hand our coordination and strengthen as well. So it's just about training the overall athlete also, you know, offering mentor shifts so they can also tap into their mental aspect as well. But my, as far as training, why I specialize in skills and movement training, you know, and with, I guess, yeah, most of sports performance. Yep. Nice. Who's, what sports your favorite to train? If I had to say, I like football, but learning the game lacrosse and kind of actually having a few friends that play lacrosse kind of just learning it. Yeah. Training lacrosse players is kind of almost the same as training football players. It's just, you know, it's just a different sport, but same type of movement from making sense. So yeah, it's football because I played it and lacrosse is kind of red there because I didn't get to play it. So I'm excited to, I've been excited to learn about it and kind of just continue to learn about it. So it kind of keeps me on edge and it helps me kind of stay engaged with my players and train them in a way that I know can be beneficial to them. Nice. So question for you. So what's the difference between skills and, and the movement side? So for me, for me, I think skills is the basic, you know, your footwork and all that, that would, that would that entail. As far as movement, it more or so goes more specific to the sport that you play. Because let's just be honest, you want to train the movement that the athlete is going to be doing repeatedly. And yeah, let's just say, and I just, everybody got their own definition of skills. Most of, like I said, most of my skills is just basic footwork and just kind of knowing how to move as an athlete. Movement training is going more, so sport specific and more advanced movement to train your body, to be able to, okay, they say my lacrosse players, knowing they have to cut and move on the right, just doing kind of exercises and changes as to where they can put power on their leg repeatedly. And kind of don't, don't wear down over time. It's everybody kind of build a strength up for those specific movements over time. So that's kind of how I kind of explain the difference to them. But no, everybody has their own definition. So when, when parents bring athletes to you, what is a very common problem they're having? Why, why do they seek your help? So when most parents come to me and sometimes other team, the athlete kind of, it's still growing into the, I guess, the natural figure. So they're not necessarily going to hit that growth spur when they own the virginity growth spur. So they kind of, you know how that, when you, when you young, your body changes so fast. So you kind of, oh, how do I do this? And you kind of, oh, I can't, I don't know how to move this one. Just learn how to really move with your body. So I kind of target that area of keys for that. So not only is your body growing, but the mental capacity and the work that you can put your body through, that's kind of what I kind of get parents to see when they come into the program. And that's kind of why parents see me out. Cause like I start from the basic, I just kind of help the athlete get to know their body first with a basic training like that. And then the, the more the athlete grow, you know, the more the training, I guess, level of the training and the depth of the training. Because you all want a player to get better each and every year. So tell us a little bit about how you got your first client. So it's kind of crazy because I used to always, one of my good friends is a quarter, a quarterback coach, which is a passing game coordinator at the high school. Well, and he used to just go out and throw in his quarterbacks in the wheel. So I was just go out there and just be with him. And then eventually, athletes start to come, like skill players start to come. And it kind of just took, it kind of just took over me. Hey, y'all, you know, come, come, let's, let's, let's get some work working. Let's train a little bit. And then kind of just grown from now, like just kind of doing it for free. Every weekend they would, the quarterback will go through. I just get a little level athlete will come out, skill player will come out. Hey, it's come, it's coming training. Eventually a parent kind of helped, helped to what I was doing. And just more so, hey, my kid, can we kind of do this extra time or two in the week or something like that. And it's more so just started. That's kind of what I made it into a service when a parent asks, oh, hey, can I get my kid extra of this? When tomorrow is just naturally doing it. Because, you know, that there, that would kind of lead me to actually, okay. Then just making the side hustle. But now like, you know, having business for like a year or two and kind of just seeing how it's kind of just taking me more over and over and more. So my ultimate goal is just ultimately just to become a full-time sports performer coach. So, you know, just kind of learning everything now and just growing over the last year and two as well as, you know, jumping in the program and kind of learning the things that are being taught in the program as well. Nice, nice. Tell coaches watching this video, what is the importance of offering three sessions to players and parents? Because a lot of coaches don't want to do that because they feel like it's, sometimes it's a waste of time. But how important was it for you to get yourself out there? So, I mean, it really, okay, so you know how I said, I was anti-social and I'm not really kind of like a person, I'm actually shy. So for me, for me though, it was just about giving back. Like, in order to kind of receive things, like, you know how they say, give in order to receive. So it's kind of like that for me, kind of just thinking of it like that. Okay, I got to give a certain bit of my knowledge and what I know. Just so people can, you know, parents and kids go, oh, coach, you actually just taught me something and then once a person learns something for a second time, that's when they come back and that's when you kind of just level up and build up and everything. But offering free sessions, I would recommend it like on a regular that way because who doesn't like free things, you know what I mean? But not only is it just about getting it for free, but it's about if it's something you love to do, which is obviously coaching is what I love to do, I'll do it free any day. You know, it's just thinking about it like that. Like, I got in it because I love to do it and I'll do it for free. Like, it's just so happening that you can turn it into a business. So now it's more so I'm just learning the business aspect of it and just growing that way. Yeah, like that. So tell us a little bit about your challenges. So what challenges have you faced so far since having your business? So my biggest thing is, I guess, marketing and I guess catching up in today's world as far as with social media and being able to, I guess, provide content and also sell yourself on social media. I've never been a big social media person, not just me. So I guess now, and I guess, not never really knowing how to market. I mean, it's still kind of, I can admit, it's still something that I'm asking that I'm trying to get over now, more so because it kind of also kind of deal with my shy side. It's more so just like, when I say learning the business part, it's okay. How do I market this as a business and kind of grow to where people are? I want to pay in for his services. So it's more so my main obstacle is just marketing and actually getting engaged with social media to represent myself as a business. So you've been part of the Sports Accelerator program for a while now. Talk to us, well, talk to the coaches watching a little bit about the program and how it's helped you. So for the main, I kind of feel like I came in at the right time because like I literally started training like two years, two, three years ago. So when I started kind of training stuff like that, it more so naturally I didn't like kind of a parent, not paying a parent, this paying this thing. So I'm more so a structure type person. So with me at first, I didn't know I could turn this to a business. So once I figured that out, it's like, okay, how can I turn into a business, but know exactly what I'm doing and kind of move in the right way to turn it into a legit profit in business. And, you know, just out researching and looking around and just constantly kept coming across videos and make money coaching and sports. So eventually I was like, let me just tap into this program and, you know, you got to take risks. And that's what I tell people, like if there's something that you really want to chase, if there's something you really want to do, just take risks and it's, I could say it's a good risk now, but it's the risk that I took to investing in this program to be like, okay, I need something to actually teach me how to engage with parents, how to make sure I'm going about it the right way to what it don't fall back on me or, you know, certain situations. So it more so gave me structure. And then it, like I said, it's good to this day. It's teaching me how to, I guess, continue to grow market and continue to scale and grow my business. If you were to pick one area of the program, what is the best one? Or that's helped you the most? Since I'm an observer, I like to sit back and just listen to people come and say the, the sports community. Like they said, being able to see other coaches go in and put their questions up and kind of see what they're going through. I don't say much, but I'm in the back of the classroom, you know, scrolling and kind of reading questions and reading people's response. And because that engages my mind and not more so physically engaging, but just observing and seeing what goes on. So I guess that's my favorite part about it. Just being able to see like minded coaches ask questions and kind of see how they respond and kind of give each other feedback and things like that. So talk to us a little bit about your, your onboarding process. So when, when you get new clients, how, how do they, they come in? Or where are they coming in? How, how'd you get them into the program? What's the process? So for me, like I said, it goes back to the free thing. Like, um, and most of mine been word of mouth. Because like I said, I'm just doing a part time to grow it full time. So right now it is more so mind being word of mouth. And with being word of mouth, I kind of actually kind of come in more physical contact with elite. So it's more so about, okay, hey, I'm going to give you a general explanation of my program and how it works. Because nine times ten, I'll be for time crunch because I'm more so having a session to go to. So I kind of get them engaged real quick and I'll be like, Hey, are you free within the next day or two? Can we hop on a quick call? Like I'll give you a basic rundown of what's going on. But on the call, I can kind of take the time to answer questions like that right there. And most parents kind of take me up on it, give me the information. And then on that call, I kind of just follow up of what I talked about with them previously and just keep them engaged. So right in from there, it's more so, hey, come out for a free evaluation session. Like you, we met from a previous, like whether it's a referral, we got on the phone. After we get on the phone, I'm more so, hey, let's go do a free session. I try to typically do it within that same week. So when they come out, hey, you know, after that session, hey, we talked on the phone, I kind of explained the program, then we got you out for a free trial session. Okay, from here, I kind of put them on the time crunch a little bit. Can we hop on the call at that point, 24 hours from now to set up, see if you really want. You got to give them time to go back home, hey, it's a program we went on. How do you like to train, let them engage with the athlete in there. And then from there, it's kind of more so, hey, do you guys want to move forward or what way can I possibly help you? Because I'm also in it about if I can help you with my program, is it another program I can refer you to, like all you do. So for me, I kind of get a lot of basic quarterbacks to come in. I'm not a quarterback, I don't know how to train a quarterback. I never played quarterback. So like my closest friend turned like a bitch part. I would refer a quarterback to him. So I kind of, and I guess that just generally me making physical contact with the parents and being able to talk and see kind of what they're looking for. And then from there, I still hop on the call with them. But that just to get them in my kind of email contact date, at least. But then I also still refer them out. And then that way, not only do I have them in my database, I also give or refer to my friend's company as well. Nice. I like that you've mentioned the referral, because I'm going to ask you a question about that. So what's important about, because this is something we teach coaches, setting up referrals with other coaches, but how important is that process? It's important. Now what I put it at the top of the importance, yes and nay, because you still have to focus on yourself and kind of get your stuff done. But being able to work in partner with and refer with other coaches, it's amazing. Because at the end of the day, we all doing the same thing. We all kind of have the same passion of getting athletes better. So whether you train them or I train them, regardless, I just put this athlete in the best position to get better. So whether they want to train with you or train with me, they just work it like that. And that's kind of how I went about it. And that's kind of, if I ever kind of, every coach that, and it only been like a handful of them that I kind of work with as far as refer from, that's kind of how we kind of go about it and talk about it like, hey man, this is your strength as far as your training and how you go about things. If I give the athlete that's looking just for that, then I'm going to send them your way because I don't want to cheat them. And if you give the athlete that, hey, they need more of this type of skill training, you send them my way. So it's kind of like collabing at the same time, but knowing and kind of, I guess, expression, oh, you are a better trainer and you, the athletes kind of more help you with this type of training than you, than my style type of training and the, you know, vice versa, just knowing that everybody at the end of the day, we offer the same training, which is skills, movement, whatever, whatever training sport you might be training, but at the end of the day, we offering ourselves. And that's what the biggest, that's the biggest thing. And once a parent know that, okay, hey, I see you genuinely care about my athlete getting better. So whoever I refer to, they're going to automatically back in the morning and think, hey, you got to be as just as genuine as training because, you know, you only associate with like people. So that's why I kind of like the referral program. And I kind of tell people, if you think about it that way, it'll make referral to other coaches and culture referral you a whole lot easier because, you know, we all are in this together. Yeah, I really like that because you, you reiterate the, the importance of special being a specialist that certain thing. There are a lot of coaches that want to be specialists in everything. And they just want to bring in players just to get clients, but then they end up getting bad clients because they're not good at what that child actually needs. So it's really good that that collaboration you have. So Dion, tell us a little bit about the sports training industry. Where do you see it going? What are the, where do you see the trends, technology, advances? How do you see it going in the next five years? I still think it is going to be a good industry, because sports forever, sports is what make countries and that's what make the world kind of give you something to live for. Sports is just a common ground for everybody just to come along and kind of play. So I feel like the sports training industry is, I don't think it's really just a limit yet, because, you know, it's key for kids are forever getting in sports now. And just the competition and the level that sports have been playing at. I feel like if you don't have a sports trainer or your team is not working with a sports performance trainer or a specific sports coach, then, you know, that's where you're kind of going to start to see a difference. And then, you know, it's just going to forever aid our industry. Now, as far as technology and stuff like that, it more so, I don't think it's going to butt heads with it, because, like I said, I feel like as a trainer and as a coach, it's about the relationship you build the client. And I don't think technology or a robot could build a relationship with an actual client. So I feel like that will always have sports trainers have the upper hand. So for me, I just think positive and know that. But in the next five years, the sports industry, the sports training, the sports coaching industry is just going to continue to go up. Now, what about your personal goals and aspirations in the next five years? Where do you want your business to be? So first, an ultimate goal for me versus just become full time training, which I have. That's the goal set for myself by the end of this year. Kind of going into 2025, I put myself in a position to where I can go full time training. And then from there, just growing scale. And eventually, then next five years to be able to open and start opening a little facility to where I kind of have a little indoor training facility and kind of grow from there. Nice, fantastic. So for you, for some, for you and someone watching that wants to go full time, what does that look like for you? What do you need to achieve? Because it's a simple answer, right? Clients. But there's more to it than just that. There's systems and stuff. But for you, what does it entail? So for me, it goes back to exactly what you just said. Like you can say you want to do it, but you actually have to put system and things in the play. I guess to speak for myself, for me to actually go full time, I have to rely and learn marketing and social media. Because naturally, in kind of this, I've just been growing my business lately. It's just word of mouth, like really just being out there getting word of mouth. And from there, it's just more so knowing that if I can learn social media, learn how to market and actually come up with a strategic plan. And kind of, I guess in crazy, being kind of actually sent out the email kind of with it last week or the week before last about investing $200 into marketing and knowing that if you sign a client, even, you know, you still making up for that. So it's just more so taking that simple email that I read and kind of, okay, how can I build a structure knowing that, okay, I have to actually invest into marketing and actually invest into, you know, the social media platform. So it's kind of about me from this learning that in this reading email, it's like, okay, how can I learn that and put it into like a system or structure that to why I can then challenge myself to become disciplined to do what just as such. And basically just stay true to the system and just let the system work itself out and eventually it'll show that, okay, I can go full time now because, you know, I got enough clients to sustain. And then I also know how to continue to bring clients in because that's the ultimate goal. Like, yeah, you can sign clients, but it's about keeping clients in your program and then bring a new client, continue to bring new clients in. So that's the biggest thing. Nice, love that. Perfect, right, Dion. So if anyone watching wants to connect with you or follow you, how can they do that? So connect with me, follow me on Instagram, Facebook, at Credo Sports Performance. If you're trying to get in contact with me, visit my website at credo Sports Performance.com. And just send a link, contact us, and I'll reach out. Always willing to reach out with your coach or athlete or parent. I'm always open to talk. Just feel free to reach out to me and just know that this is just a deep passion that I have and just just lead me throughout. Nice, perfect. All right, well, Dion, thanks again for jumping on. My goal with you is hopefully in a year's time, we jump on again, and you can share your story, how you now went full-time with your business. Oh yeah, when it comes true, I'll be glad to have a point. Let's do it. Okay, thank you. Thank you for jumping on and we'll speak to you soon. Yeah, we're good.