 Big shit, big shit, big shit, big shit, it's a unique hustle nigga, big shit, big shit, big shit, name another podcast like this. Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique hustle, it's your boy E.C.O. and I'm here with the lovely, amazing official Miss Jamaica. What's going on? None, none, you know my dad? Man, we got a blessing today in here, y'all. Somebody who I've been trying to get on this show ever since I started this damn show. She is beautiful, she is talented, she's one of the ones that I look at as one of the ones that I call staples in the whole Dallas area. The south, you know what I'm saying? Because I got this little chart I keep, and in certain ones I'll be like, we better than everybody because of this one. And she's one of the ones, man. I appreciate that. Since Mali is in the building. I appreciate that. Big dawg, for sure, niggas don't be respecting me. Man, please, these niggas in trouble. I'm here now. I don't be giving a fuck. Why do you think they don't respect you? Oh, I mean, like, you know, they respect you behind doors, like, they don't like to do that shit. Well, we gonna kick the dough down. Oh, yeah, it's been open. It's open. It's up. You know what I'm saying? Like, you're one of the ones that I always think about, like, how did you manage to make it happen, you know? You're from Arlington. Yeah. How did you manage to make it happen? Like, is a lot of people want to be in your spot? Well, like, let's say I started off as Sneaks on Mali. I had a lot of sneakers and I was just trading shoes and shit, buying shoes, all that shit. So people in Arlington knew who I was and I was at parties and all that shit. But then I turned 18. I danced for a year and then I got paid for my first feature. It was $1,000. And I was like, shit, I ain't finna dance because if you can pay me to rap, you ain't finna come to the club and see me dance. Like, shit, I'm finna get paid to rap. You dance for a year. Do you mind telling me where? V-Live. You was at V-Live? With A-Self Roxy Nail. My Nail girl down there. You feel me? Roxy down at that hole. I don't care if there ain't nobody here. Yeah. And I danced for a year and it's like, that ain't even what I wanted to do. But my ex, you know, like, no, my ex's sister stayed with me. And she was like, she dancing. Her friend was too scared to dance with her. So she came home and told me I was like, well, shit, I just turned 18. Bro, I'll go with you. Went to the club. First time I went there, I made $1,000. I was like, shit. What did you think about, like, your first time doing it? Because I know y'all start off, because I've been there when they started. And it really don't be good. They're trying to learn the tricks. It takes them a little while to get into the mode of learning the tricks. Well, look, you know, like, females there, they already got their ass done. Titty's done, like, wigs, lace fronts, all that shit. I'm fresh out of it. Like, well, I ain't graduated, but I'm fresh out of school, basically. I'm 18, just turned 18. I'm natural, bun on top of my head. Like, shit normal. So I'm walking in like, well, we gonna see if they fuck with me. So like, like, yeah, because everybody had the fake boobs, the fake butts, and everything is working. Yeah, when I walked in there, it was fuck with me. So I was like, but females never fuck with me. They don't pose to. Like, it's fake love in there. So it was just like a learning experience. So did you get into a fight beyond? Hell nah. You ain't fighting nobody? Hell nah. That's the thing. These, they needed to be there. Like, that was, they shit. Like, you know, like, they did this shit. That's their money. Like, they need this shit. They got kids. They got me. I'm really just in this home making free profit. Like, I'm just like, fuck it. I'm on my, I'm on finding my journey. I'm finding my route. Like, so there's some money coming in. Like, here I got a thousand. This day, a thousand. All bands like shit. I'm 18. Nobody got there right now. Like from Arlington. You know, like shit. And then I was around the studios and shit. And I was like, all right, I'm rapping. And you met a lot of entertainers who come in too. Yeah. Yeah, of course. It was a good networking place. But I had already like 20,000 followers type shit. Okay. Yeah. They be cute. So they have followers. I had followers because when I was young, I used to take pictures. Oh, the sneakers. That's true, but I used to take pictures with guns and shit. Oh, you're a killer. No. No. I used to take pictures with guns and like blunts and just stuff like that. It just went viral. Really? So it was. And now they'll take you, they'll take down your whole page for stuff like that. Yeah. Early on they let you get away with yourself. How many pages have you lost? None. And they're not going to lose any because I respect Instagram. Okay. When they do send me something. She read it. Yeah, when they send me something, they be like, we can review it. I'm going to definitely send it back to you to review because I'm going to be like, well, I didn't mean this. Yeah. Because I don't like, you know, like I've had my business. I've had my Instagram for 12, I mean, for 10 years. Yeah. That's good. Because a lot of people be, Instagram be getting snatched. And it's like, at a point in time, I was all about Instagram. Like I was so fucked up about Instagram. But hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. No, no, no. But before we get back into that, I wanted to ask a question about the strip club. Okay. So what was the worst case that you've ever had at the strip club? Whatever happened. They just like, man, I can't stand it. Whether it be a guy who came in or... It's like, when you said that automatically thought about a good time. That's right. What were you kicking in? I don't know. I just prayed about positivity last night. So I don't really know. But I didn't really have no bad times. I was always just like, I told you, like I was there just there. Because you know, you have weird people come in though. Yeah. And me, I was always just like, a nigga could play with me. I never liked people like, I was, I didn't want to talk. I didn't want to talk. I ain't want to do nothing. I was just like, here's your little dance. Throw your money. Come on by. Like anybody that tried to do too much, talk too much, touch too much, nah. Leave me alone. I'm out of here. How frustrating was tip out? Oh yeah, that shit was... But some nights, bro, let me tell y'all. Let me tell y'all some nights I walk in. They talking about $100 tip out. I'm like, but it ain't even two people in here. What you mean? That's the one, man. So it doesn't depend on how many people in there. It's just marital. It's just like some, like Mondays it's this, you know, like... It's dead. So one night at the tip, I was like 200. But nobody was making money. I walked in and I was like... Do you just leave? Can you just... And I walked out there, I just was walking around. Boom. Some Africans was like, come here. And then so I walked over there. I started dancing for them. And then other girls tried to come over there right. They were like, no, no, no. Then they threw like four bands on me and just me. Oh, you're cute. And I was like, they said, do you know why we chose you? And I was like, no, they were like, because you're natural. Hey, that's what I'm talking about. And I was like, bro, what the fuck? Man, that's dope. But like at 18, I'm like in the club. You got to have a really strong mind not to give in to like... Like I said, I've been on Instagram for 10 years. So I've been around a lot of folks, like a lot of scenarios. A lot of places, parties, like people, like everything. So you got to have a real strong mind not to give in. Like, ain't shit wrong with whatever people do for themselves, but just to not be like, all right, fucking, I need this shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I definitely... Your boy was on here the other day, Mr. Hit That. He was on here. He just left off him over here. And I always think about my guy, Jack Frost, a go DJ Fresh. We all... I'd have been in them strip clubs in that Dane DJ booth. Yeah, hit that fuck with me. Yeah, that's what... He started out here as a kid, though. He been coming here all his life. We was selling him designer. Yeah, I was a kid when I... He was doing the dance and all that. Yeah, I was a kid when I seen him go viral. So when I got older and I'm in a club working with him, I'm like... What the hell's going on, though? Like, shit's so weird. Like, when I was eight years old, I did not expect this. You know what I mean? No. Anyway, we jumped the gun a lot with how we started. I wanted to ask about that. It was something that you jumped me. I knew it. I wasn't going to remember it. I knew it. It was something about the Instagram or something. Yeah. You don't like me. I can't say nothing. But we want to go back. We always like to go back when you were younger, when you were a kid. You know, growing up in Arlington. Did you have any siblings? Were you raised with your mom and dad? Stuff like that. I got two grown brothers. They fully white. We got the same mama. They fully white. That's dope. Yeah, but then my niggas. So your mama white. Yeah, mama white, my daddy black. Okay. I'm broke, mama white. Damn. So you don't want to rap. The fuck? Why? No. No. So did I just turn? Oh, I thought I turned my shit off. But brothers, I got two brothers. They grown 37, 35. So on your daddy's side, you don't have any? I'm his only child. Wow. I grew up with both my parents. We never like lived together. Like for real, for real. But it's always been love. Like we all cool. They not together now. They got their own shit going on. But my mom can come stay with us when she in town. When she needs to. Like whatever the fuck going on. Oh, you still stay with your dad? He stay with me. Oh, he moved with you? Yeah. Look out for him. I hope my, you hear that boy? Hell, I hope somebody look out for me if I ever need it. Finna go big house, all that shit. Oh, really? Say you have a close relationship with your dad. That's my best friend. That's good. He finna control all my shit. That's dope, man. That's dope because you trust him. Yeah, he just finna like, I've been teaching him shit like here and there and doing all this and just little shit. Cause he went to college. You telling me that your dad is going to help you deal with your estate? Yeah. So basically, I mean, I don't, Beyonce tried to be careful. Nah. My dad, he done taught me some shit. That's, I don't know. You trust him? What's the most important thing that he's taught you? Shit. I don't even know it's so much shit. I'm talking about be you, keep hustling, shit. Never let people know like when you just fucked up, you know, that's what they pray for. I like that, man. I love to see that. When did you realize you had the talent to rap? Okay. Well, with that being said, like in elementary school, I've always had a sense for like music and shit, but I didn't want to do choir. I couldn't sing. They don't want to do band because I didn't want to play one of them instruments. I'm like, shit, but what can I do? Like rapping ain't real, I ain't Jay-Z. Like, you know, like, I ain't Beyonce. I ain't, you know, I ain't Fergie. Like, you know, like, I ain't. I'm thinking I'm watching these people on TV when they songs come on in the morning. And I'm like, that can't be me. They already famous, you know, like. So my brother was a rapper. Like when I was a kid, his name was A1. His name was A1. Yes. And he could actually rap. He was an artist? Yeah. A1. I'm trying to think back. Like, this nigga probably wouldn't hold on. He said they're older than you. How much older are they? He said 37. I think she said 1 with 37. That's like 10 years. 15 and 13. Okay. 15 years apart and 13 years apart. I'm 23. I just turned 23. I know. You're the baby baby. Yeah. You know, I'm still figuring shit out. You know, I'm blessed though. Highly blessed. Highly favored. What was I saying? Oh, yeah, he rapped. So like, you know, I was like, well, he can go to a studio and find a microphone. So like, as I get older, I'm like, I guess it's possible. You know, like, then I start seeing people who rap in and shit. So my 18th birthday, we were just playing. I turned on some to treat. I said to treat Detroit style type beats. And I'm just rapping freestyle and just doing whatever, doing whatever. I'm like, shit, what if I did this for real? Yeah. I grabbed a notebook. I got a whole, I still got it to this day. The same notebook. Just, I don't write no more. But like, at that time, that's all I could do. I didn't have a studio. Well, if I write songs, like something, you know, like, I'm gonna find a studio. I'm gonna find a microphone. Boom. Started writing all that shit and found the studio. I started recording and recording my first song. And it was like, you got to keep going. You can be a star. I'm like, I know it, but like, I don't know, you know? Nah, you dope, man. Oh, I know. But now it took time to be like confident. Because normally a lot of people always say the first time they hear themselves after it's mixed and mastered. I was in the studio like this scared to rap. My voice was just cracking. I was like, they were like, just relax. I'm like, all right. And then like, I did it a little bit, but you can still hear like in my voice, like I was scared, you know? And then when people were in the studio, I was scared to rap. I don't know why I was just scared to do me. And then they had to come to a point where I was like, nigga, they fuck with me. They're here because of me. Like, why am I caring with y'all? What I sound like. I done been around in the studio, bro. One person I was in the studio with was Lil Key, rest in peace to him. But like his songs go crazy, you know? But when he's recording and you're listening, like you wonder what this gonna sound like, you know? Like it's like, but me at the time, I was like, it gotta sound perfect when I'm recording the mic because they're listening to me, you know? But you didn't know that it doesn't have to at that time. Yeah, at that time I didn't. So like I got around people and I was like, okay, this is rap. Like I got a song with Pablo Juan. He went in the studio, he did a verse. She just saying random shit that rhyming the sentence. You know, like the end bars might be harder. Like the first bar might be hard. He just saying random shit. It sounds crazy. And then at the end of the shit, he'll go back in and be like, all right, delete this. And he'll replace the stupid word with like a real word, you know? Somebody else I know that they came on and that's what they do. So I was like just seeing people do different things and shit. I'm like, shit ain't gonna be perfect when you saying it. You gotta find your own rhythm and you gotta find what works for you. Hell yeah. So after, so when, how old were you when you would say that you found your confidence? How long did it take you? Like, ooh, my voice cracked. Like complete confidence, 22, last year. What made you find your confidence so late? Like you know I've always known that bitch. Like always known that shit. But in rap? No, oh, rap I knew for sure I had that shit in like 2018. Like I knew that and for sure I know that shit now just because it's a lot of shit that I didn't influence. Regardless if people see it or not, I see it. People see it. But confidence all around was age 22 just because I didn't experience so much shit and been around so many people, seen so many things. It had me realize like, I didn't see so many different paths, so many different lanes. So I'm seeing where different people are and I'm like what they experienced this shit. I'm like, well where the fuck is mine? Like why am I not at the top right here when I'm doing the same shit, you know? I'm like why am I not at the top when I'm doing the same shit? Let me just stop. No, no, just chill, keep going. Keep going, don't worry about it. And then I just had to come to a point where I'm like, bro I'm me, like I did not live in the moment. Never knew how to live in a moment. I didn't experience so much shit that I forgot about because I was so worried about what's next. Like I don't, it's crazy. And were you the type of person that was always wondering what people think? No, I really ain't never given fuck with people things because I thought things about myself. Okay. So you decided to learn how to get out of your own head. Yeah, like other people would be like, you're tripping. I'd be like, no I'm not tripping. I don't like this or I see this. Get out of your own head. Now just tell me, I want to know how you and Brooke met. Lil' Brooke is my dog. She been coming on here. She been on here about four times. I bring her on every time. I don't know God gave me favor with this little girl and I'll be riding with her. Big Brooke. But I can't find her. Don't put it on front of her name. Listen, I can't find her, right? I can't find her. She just pops up like when she want to. This is weird, but I always wonder like where is Sency. Because she knows she's always welcome. When I look on my thing and I be looking up stuff about her, you pop up. I'd be like, what the hell is girl that? Boss talk got to get this girl on here. So tell me, how did y'all link? Like I said, you know, Sneaks on Mali. I knew a lot of people from Arlington and surrounding areas. She had followed me. And then I followed her back one day. I was on live. I'll shoot my first video. And probably 50 people on my live. I'm like, I need somebody to come be in my video tonight. Brooke's like, I'ma come. So Brooke came. After that, this girl never left my house. That's kind of what she said. My wife called me. I'm up. Bro, can you make sure she go to school? I'm like, Miss Dusty, I don't know. I'm trying. She would meet from your house and go to school. No. Sometimes. But how did y'all know that y'all, was she rapping at that time or no? No, not yet. She was around. And then one day we were just all like me and this other girl. We don't talk to her no more. Ain't no problem, respect. But we don't talk to her no more. We was all just sitting on the bed. We were like, fuck it. Let's make a song. Three of us. And we wrote a song in the bed. We were just all helping each other come up with bars and our notes and shit found to be on YouTube. All that shit. And then we shot a video for it. Made outfits and everything. And then after that, she just started rapping. Damn. And we're good at it. Y'all both was great at it. Yeah, cause like she was in the studio with us all the time. I was like, bitch, come on. She was like, what? I'm like, yeah, come on. And then she just started liking it. She started loving it. I got to get this story, man. So you guys end up on Def Jam. Yeah. How does that happen? Y'all was manager at the time or no? No. No, we had something like, we were fucking with gutter. But like, yeah, he was, he was my manager. Okay. He was my manager. And then shit came about one day we was on live. Had like 20 people on live. And one of those 20 people was a fan of us. Screen recorded it. Screen recorded us dancing to 223. And then screen recorded us dancing to 223. And then Brooke woke up, posted it on Twitter. We were like a million views. What the fuck? And that was your first million views. Yeah, yeah. It was just a video of us on live dancing. Like not even dancing. We were just like rapping our song, you know? And then so we check our emails. We both get an email from a Def Jam and our time. But hey, we seen your video. We like it. We like, fuck. Next thing you know, we flying out meeting with all the labels. We in New York meeting with everybody. But Def Jam actually like, they spending money on us before we sign. Wow. That's the determining factor. So is that why you chose them? No, we chose them just because we felt at home with them. Like they wasn't pushing too much. They wasn't doing too much. They just felt good at the time. The only reason why I wasn't good no more is because our original team left. Oh, that's what it was. Yeah. Like the team that we have behind us were not even our team. All the teams left. Like everybody. Why did everybody leave them? Def Jam got a new thing going on. And they just knew new roster, new employees. Rosenberg lefts. The CEO, he left. Like, you know, so I was just not getting no more. They wanted to, they wanted to do a new like venture with me. Let's, I'm gonna use the word venture, a new route with me. And we had a zoom call and I was like, that's not you. I'm like, no, I'm done. Right. I don't want to be here. And they're like, well, I'm like, I'm done. But when you have a contract, can you just do that? No, but that's the thing. They broke our contract basically. So without us making it the long run and going to court. All that long run shit. Just let me go. Right. Let me go. That's cool. So you, you basically, you left. But I want to talk about the time that you were there, the budget that they had behind you. Was this a 360 deal? They, they ain't do shit. Was this a 360 deal? They ain't do shit that they're supposed to do. First. That's what I heard. Listen, listen. So they were, we had a video. You know, we had a song with Lil Yachty. We have a song with Lil Yachty. I asked about that. Yeah. We had a video treatment. Crazy. Everything. But he had a funeral at the time. So the video got canceled. You know, and they settled him back during like, come on. We got this company and said, like, you know, this is a treatment for this video. Let's go. They didn't do that. They slowed down after that should happen. Team left. Now we're not at the top of the show because at the time Danny Lay is top of the show. You know, like, that's how a label work. They not, it's a priority, priority list. Like, you know, just depending on your numbers and shit. Like, you know, and when you do how those numbers, they going to put more behind them numbers to make sure they stay high. So you know, at the time it was Danny Lay. Like, she was doing her shit. And so we just wasn't, we were the priority. Yeah. That's so crazy. In business, always a numbers game is who producing more is who. At that time they signed like 15 people, you know. So when everybody left, they didn't know what to do with those 15 people because now those new A&Rs are signing 15 more people. So now it's just like, we got 30 folks in here that we don't even know what to do with. Everybody else leave? Like, all the 15 people that you're talking about that day. We had, yeah, what was it called? Undisputed. I don't know if y'all seen that. Dev Jam Drop Undisputed. Mm-hmm. And basically everybody's gone. Let me ask you this about, like, Lil Yachty, that had to be big for you guys to find out that he wanted to be on y'all's track like that. See, that's the, I asked him to be on it. Okay, that's what I want to know about. How did that happen? I asked him to be on it. One day I woke up and I was just testing my water. I woke up, took a picture of my arm, you know, a black screen. I'm just like, take a picture. I said, um, at Lil Yachty. Oh, I said at Lil Yachty, what's up with the feature? And, um, 30 seconds in, he swiped up to my story, talking about y'all fire. Oh, you went in. I'm like, wait, huh? Like, wait, I'm fine. All right, cool. So then I was like, what's y'all remember? We FaceTime. And then one day I text him. I'm like, I still got the messages. I text him. I'm like, um, what I got to do to get you on a song. And he was like, you can get my manager number. I was like, all right, cool. I have my manager. Hit your manager. How much it's going to be? He was like, send me the song. And so I sent him the song and literally he sent it right back. Like, I want to say the name. I want to say the same day, but next day. Wow. And I was like, what the fuck? Broke, listen to this shit. That's fave, bro. Like, you know, but it was just awesome. And I took a picture of my arm, a black screen. I'm like, what's up with the feature? He must have been following y'all before. No, that's the thing. A lot of people was watching. They still watch. Yeah. Yeah, y'all dope. So yeah, they watching. That's why I'm trying to be the manager. Because everybody acting like they don't want to get on no more. I'm for the story. I'm for the shoot night this whole thing. You know what I'm saying? I'm she'll igniting this thing. I got to get in here and just show them I'm here. You know, and make some people do some features, nigga. You know what I'm talking about? You know, we got shit up to see, like I told you, I can't just, I stopped letting people in on my good shit. No, you shouldn't. Until you're ready. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So it's like... Because people try to steal your dream, you know, or they try to hate on it. So you don't want to give it to everybody. I used to post everything. No, you ain't got to tell me that. I'm like, I only post what it like, I'll post something, I'll post something. And people will take me like, you're at the store or like, you're there. I'd be like, that was five days ago. Yeah, yeah. That sound good to me. Like, I used to post every single day. And so at the time, like the time, 20... What was it, 2020? I signed December 2018, I believe. Yeah, December 2018. And so they started, by the end of 2019, I was depressed. Yeah? Hell yeah, I was like, bro. How long did you go through depression? Shit my whole life, but... Just say hi. No, look, he just laughed it off. Well, what was the worst case of depression that you had to go through and how did you overcome it? Because a lot of people watching are still going through depression right now and you might can be the person that helped them out of it. Shit, me too. I would just be like, fuck it, I'm alive. I'm breathing, you can't think about negative. Like I said, live in a moment, you got to just pray for positivity and protect your peace and protect your surroundings. It's real. Shit like that. That's real. It's really just praying. Even if you believe in God or not, you ain't got to believe in God, but you got to believe in the higher you. You know, like you got to... You got to do something. You know, like you got to believe in some sort of power if you want to be powerful. How the fuck you going to be powerful with no power? Yeah. You know? So, regardless of what you believe in, it's got to find your power. Yeah, I mean, I definitely agree with that. You got to figure it out and you got to find out a way to love you. Yeah, I got that shit written on my mirror. Like when I wake up, it say love yourself. I got other things, but I got to love yourself a lot. Yeah. So are you... So I know you say that you go through your depressive moments, but every time I see you online or whatever, you looking fly, I see you. But that's why they made social media. Boom. That helps, too. They can hurt or help, right? If you go back to the... Back in the day before, you could post videos and all this other crazy shit. People made Facebook and Instagram to post their good times. They're having picnics with their family. They're having... You post good times. You don't post bad times on Instagram. When people post bad times, they say you're searching for clout. Don't even worry about it. That was good stuff right there. But on Instagram, when you post bad stuff, they say you're searching for clout. But Instagram, not even Instagram, social media is made for positive things. I'm not thinking on there and dread and shit and be like, I'm just sad, because what the fuck am I sad about? I could be way worse, but I'm not. Like I said, I'm here. Yeah. I shake it better. Let me ask you this. Fifty Shades. Soldier boy. Hard to shit out. That's my nigga, man. You see us a few times up on that wall. I used to talk crazy to him, because I know already I'm fly. I see him at the convention. He got clothing brands. I see a clothes nigga. This boulevard ain't going to work for me. Why are you over here now? With these palm trees. I'm that nigga. I talk to niggas like this all day. But every time he was having a damn good time. So, I mean, how did you guys link? I was in LA one time and there's this girl, she rolled blunt professionally and we cool with her. She ain't one of our videos. Wait a minute. She rolled blunt professionally. I didn't know you have professional. We so damn old. I mean, just a professional blunt roller like this. I mean, like, you know, they pay her to roll the blunt all day. And she professional with it. I wonder how much it cost to, I mean. Shit. They paying good money for the blunt professionally. But it was real cool. And he was at a hotel on time in LA and I was there and I just introduced myself. We spoke or whatnot. And then when he had his challenge out, the clap, clap, clap challenge, I had did it. That was the song you had. Yeah. He posted it. I just followed bro. Like, you know, it was just cool. And then one time he posted on Instagram. He was like, I ain't doing features and none of you lame ass rappers no more sauce wiped up to the story. I was like, what should I do a feature with me? And I was like, I ain't one of these lame ass rappers. Like, you know, sold the boy a legend. And like, when I was eight years old, the eight year old me could not imagine me having a song sold the boy. Damn right. You damn right. You know, I'm cranking out. I'm like, now I'm grown. I'm like, what the fuck? You know, but no. So then he literally recorded a song while we was on FaceTime. And then I flew to LA and I paid the cameraman. Got a spot and all that shit. We just shot the video. It was really last minute though. But it was on some cool shit. You got it. You have fun, like he looks like he's having when he works. He's really cool. Yeah. I done met a lot of niggas, a lot of rappers, a lot of people and he cool. That's it, man. Like I said, so who would you like to work with next? Like, if you could, if it's anybody, did you pull the body of your bag? Which one would it be? Anybody. Anybody. Little baby. You like little baby? I do like little baby. I want to do a song. Little baby. I want to do a song with ESTG. Okay. Not Drake. You know, everybody's saying Drake. Yeah, you know, that should be cool. Like, you know, definitely it would be legendary, but on my like genre type shit, nah. Any females? Yeah. I'll do a song with Milado. I fuck Milado. But like on another level, I say, um, that's a couple of females I fuck with. Um, Summer Walker, I do a song with her. Yeah, I hear her name a lot. Yeah, I do a song with Summer Walker, just because like she real just her. She don't care about shit and she big, you know, she got her own shit going on. She don't give a fuck. She real just fuck it. I mean, you're going to get me and take it. You realize how God has really made it to where, even though y'all was with Def Jam, it's like y'all still can peek. Like y'all, y'all, y'all, it didn't do nothing to the world. It's because I left the mark that you can't cover up. You can't take it away. But I can see you got skill in hiring her. Oh yeah. It's on the way. And that's the thing. Like, you're like baby face, right? This nigga been rapping for years, years, years, sprouted out out of nowhere. Went crazy, still going crazy. You know, it's just shit like that. You can't, you can't rush it then. You can't rush shit. You can't compete with nobody but yourself. You can't question that thing. Yeah. And like I said, I just know that when I look at y'all and when I look at you and when I look at little Brooke, it's like they still. No, big Brooke. I'm sorry. Y'all nigga, I gotta get used to that, you know? Yeah. But when I see, it's like y'all, it was a time when did y'all get tired of working together so much? Let's be real. Oh yeah, we're going to cut this out. Oh, we're going to leave. We're going to let it ride. Are you going to cut it? No, we're going to let it ride. Get cute with it. You know what I'm saying? Nah, but. I mean, was it a time? Are you asking that? I'm asking. No, I said, are you asking that because you've seen the time where we wasn't together? Yes. No, that wasn't it. It's just, you know, like, she's like my family, you know, time should happen. We just, should happen. Yeah. You just gotta grow. You gotta grow up. Kids. We just kids. I was thinking about the label having y'all so needed together and that being a part of it, you know? Yeah, that's it. But it's just, just life shit, personal shit growth. Like I said, we was kids. We thought we was grown. We were just literally laughing about shit the other day. We was, I got, I sent her a text message and I was like, we thought we was grown four years ago. Look at us now. Like, you know, like, back then niggas couldn't tell us shit. So it's just like, grow. It was shit that she had to learn and I had to learn. And then after we learned shit, you know? She told me y'all did about four songs down there side by side with. Yeah. So how do, how do you just do by side? I'm so damn lame. How do you do by so, is it a studio down there and y'all niggas just locked in? I mean, if you get a studio, I'm just asking how it happened. Like, did y'all do four songs down there? Or y'all just performed four songs? Or did y'all, is this new music? We recorded four new songs. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Y'all just. But side by side West, we performed too. I seen that. I looking it up, I'm like, oh, they down there getting to it. I think it was on gut or stuff. I was like, damn, they doing anything. Yeah, people was. They was filling you? Okay, so side by side West is old to us. Like, we did that shit years ago. So this year we're like, fuck it. We still peeking, whatever. We did all that shit. You hear me? Like, don't get me wrong. But, we was out there every five seconds. Niggas like, Molly Brooke, Molly Brooke, Molly Brooke. And I'm like, I never doubt myself, but it's at the same time. I was like, shit. I forgot y'all fucked with me like that. Wow. It's good reassurance. Yeah. You know, like I was walking down that strip. One of these girls then dropped to blunt, dropped to phone, dropped to her knees and everything screaming my name. I'm like, calm down. She's like, oh my God, oh my God, I love you. I love you. I'm like, damn, that's crazy. I'm, I'm human. Just like you. I fuck up just like you. But it's cool that like, you can change people's life, you know. Yeah. And you have to influence on people's life. You have to always, you know, make sure you're doing right. I know. I pray about that shit every night. What's the biggest thing a fan ever done for you? Was that for me? Or, well, it's the fact that I got, I got older fan. I don't know if this is what you mean. Like, this, okay, let me explain it. And then we'll see if you get what I'm saying. Okay. So I done had older people be a fan of me walking to Walmart. I'm like, 30 and up. Like they're like, oh my God, Molly, I fuck with you. You know, like, I'm in the club, 21 and up, a girl crying. She's like, you know, like, oh my God, I can't believe I got to meet you. Like I really appreciate, a 13 year old can focus me and a 33 year old can focus me. It's like my influence of me being whatever age I am and my influences and my experiences and everything, they make you feel a certain way. You know, like, I don't know if that makes sense. That doesn't make sense. But that's, it did something to me. Like if that makes a fan, what a fan did to me, it did something to me. I seen you in a little brook or big brook riding around down in Arkansas about a week or two ago. What the hell was y'all doing down there? What the hell was y'all doing? What the hell was y'all doing? What was y'all doing? That picture right there in Arkansas. Yeah, when I seen y'all riding, somebody was in the store. We was getting to that bag. Okay. Feature and a video. Yeah. How did it come out? How do y'all pick who y'all going to work with? Like y'all, if the money right or they got to be some talent there? I mean like, shit, both, like if you just look like treacherous, it's just like, no, you sound treacherous. It's like, I'm cool on your money. Yeah. Because my career means more. I'm just like whatever, whatever I got to say. Lil Uzi did a song with a snitch. You know, he still don't know what he had to say last year. He's still Lil Uzi. You know? Yeah, yeah. No, no, that's real deep. You know? Yeah. And so, go ahead. Where do you see yourself in about another, say a year? On tour. On tour? Yeah. On tour within a year. And just doing shows back to back. Mm-hmm. So what would be your biggest achievement? Like, that you have done so far? And what would be your biggest goal that you are shooting for? My biggest achievement is just being able to say that I've done so much at a young age. Like, I signed to Def Jam. That's so major. Real major. That shit's like. I couldn't believe it. You know, it's just like growing up. Who the fuck thought that? I dropped out. I know. Like, you know, my dad was like, what the fuck? I'm his only child. He went to college. I was supposed to go to UT, too. He graduated from UT in Austin. So I'm like, I'm supposed to go there and shit. You dropped out of high school? Mm-hmm. My senior year, only because. Y'all just in the 11th grade. No, 12th grade. 12th grade. Why? You almost finished. I didn't want to. Look, they wanted to send me to alternative school. And I'm like, what the fuck? No. You were fighting a lot. Hell, no. I've never gotten in trouble in school. I went to jail the previous year. And so, like, it's like a rule that if you go to public jail, you can't go to public school. I was in a class about to fill out college applications. No, I'm not don't want to go to college, bro. I don't want to do that shit. I know how to be some sort of entertainment. Like, I was in theater in psychology. So I was like, fuck it. If I can't act or do some shit, I'm going to help people with their mind because I'm psycho. I'm crazy, too. So I want to help somebody. And they called me to the office. They told me that. I'm like, all right, cool. So I'm going to try to be homeschooled. I'm going to try to finish this out just at homeschool. You walked out. Well, I was gone already when they told me to do alternative school. I had applied for online school. And after I applied, they told me I had to do junior year. And I was like, fuck no. And what did your dad say about it? He didn't really say nothing. He didn't really know what to say. He was mad, low key inside, but he knew that I was going to figure some shit out. So. It's the great ones that learn early that they got there. They understand it. I'm the only one like me and my cousins. They still like, you know, but I'm really like the only one who done said, fuck what y'all think, fuck the rules, fuck the order it goes in. I don't care what I'm doing me. Like I'm a figure it out. I didn't graduate. None of that shit. Like, you know, like all they want to college all that good shit play sports or teachers or some other shit. They from the cliff. My daddy's side from the cliff, but they good people, you know. And just me. I was just complete opposite. I didn't go around my family because of the fact that I dropped out. I went them thinking like, damn, how do you raise this? You know, so I'm like in my head. I don't care. Like I'm cool, but I don't want them thinking my dad just was a bad dad and he didn't do it. You know, but when you got your record deal, did you go around them to be like, hell no, I still want to. That's the thing that fucked me up because I didn't live in the moment. Like I still was like, it ain't big enough. I need to pull up. Like I need this. Like y'all think that like I don't need y'all to think shit. My dad passed away and I did not go see him cause I was like, I gotta go like bigger and bigger and bigger. Dang. Wow. Man, bitches. Don't cry. All of that affected you. I'm cool. Yeah, but I was like, damn, like, bitch, why you do that? Yeah. So you've learned from that now or are you still like that? No, like I live in the moment now. It's like the little shit there. It's not little. So you appreciate everything that goes on with your life? Yeah. Like when I opened up for no cap the other day, I'm like, I don't open up for a little baby when he's one of his big, big now. Like, you know, I'm like, damn, that shit was big. But at the time, I'm like, all right, whatever, what's next? So when you think about it, just the things that you've accomplished, man, you've seen trends for like younger kids, younger girls, that they're going to look to you in the future as somebody look up to something that they can achieve, even the ones that didn't finish school. That's dope. Yeah. Like what that being said is I want to start like a cheerleading squad, but I'll be looking at my videos and shit. I'll be like, damn, the parents might be like, guns and all that other shit. And I'll be like, shit, gunner, thug, baby, Wayne, everybody. Like they do shit for the community all the time. Like Megan is staying. She talked about a whole bunch of crazy shit. She got a key to the city in Houston. You feel me? Like just shit like that. So now I'll be like, I could do whatever. You ever think about balancing it though? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, like now it comes to a point. At first when I started rapping, I didn't think about shit. I wasn't know how having fun. I'm rapping, rhyming, saying whatever the fuck I want to say, whatever cool. Now I'll come to a point where I'm like, all right, let's create. You know, let's see where we can go. Like I like making beats with people. I like trying new shit. Like even if I don't like it, it comes to points where I'll be like, this sound cool, but not for me. You know, I'll come up with a flow for somebody else or somebody rapping. I'll be like, hey, say this, you know, or go like this. Just shit like that. At first, music was just fun. Your style changes. It's, I heard your, it's like a whisper. I heard some of it. And it sound good. It's dope. I'm enchanting sounds like a whisper. Who started this sound first? What do you think? I'm asking. I'm going to answer your question. What do you think? I just want, I know what she didn't rap like that when she went over to go to 1017. With that being said, it's like a whisper. I heard some of it. And it sound good. It's dope. I'm enchanting sounds like a whisper. Who started this sound first? That being said, it is. I ain't never said shit bad about her. We had a conversation. Ain't no problems. It's just the fact that I said I just want credit. I want respect. It's just a lot of shit that I feel like I did influence. She said she don't feel like she's influenced by my sound. She said that? Yeah. But she said she rap slow because she sings low. Whatever. But like I said, I just know that her sound changed when she went to like I just said, I just want some credit. Respect. You know, I ain't know. Like I said, I ain't ever say shit bad about old girl. But we know you type in my name on Twitter. You type in our names together. You can see who did it first. Not even that. That's why I said I don't be for nobody. Let me let me put this shit first. Let me clarify this. I don't be for nobody. I ain't got beef with nobody. I like receipts. I like facts. Respect. Like I said, this is it. This receipts. I got receipts for whatever. I ain't say shit. But I know what the fuck I did. And I know what's going on. You know, my fans know about Pablo. Okay. Pablo, Gunu, shit like that. Respect. I used to listen to them. The song, Le Cuelle, young mom, phone book, too many wrecks in my phone book. At that time, I started rapping crazy. But, me as a female, females wasn't coming like that. They didn't know if that shit was cool or not. I did an interview. And I said, I was just talking about this in the car. I did an interview and in the interview, I was like, that's what made me difference because like, I rap like a nigger. And they were like, girls was dragging me. They tell me, you need a man's approval to rap. You do this shit for men. Like, you don't have to down another woman to rap. I'm like, I'm a twerk. I might not turn it on on a daily basis, but, you know, problem with other female rappers like, you know, shit like that. So it's just, they try to make everything you say, negative. And it's just the fact I'm talking about me and what I do. But with that being said, I got my flow from me. It's influenced by who I said and whoever come after me is after me. I get it. I get it. Respect. So, I mean, I had a question because I see you were your headpiece all the time, different colors and stuff like that. New signature. Well, I mean, I don't be wearing them all the time. It's just the fact that I got curly hair. So sometimes I don't be wanting to do my shit. I just braid it back and throw it. Okay. It's cute on you. Thanks. You don't see a lot of people doing that. I mean, nowadays you do, you know, they call it the I don't see a lot of females doing it. Yeah. It's a couple of us. What new music you got coming? Give it to me. Should we look for some big bangles from you and Big Brook? Yeah. We got seven. Two freestyle on the way. When is it coming? Oh well on the way. I got back in full effect on the way. If y'all don't know my first tape I ever dropped was called in full effect. So we're going to come back with back in full effect. That's dope. That's dope. That's dope. Yeah. So when is when is any of these releasing? Next month. It's going down next month. All of them? All of them. Be ready. That's cool. It's coming in hot. And videos? And videos. Yeah, I got a new video. It's crazy because from my tape I didn't really drop no videos. But I got a video for it dropping probably in about next Wednesday. Okay. About a week in a couple of days. But yeah, I'm going to definitely have videos for the next week. For seven, six, two. Dope. Dope. Who do you like to produce your music the most? Well now I've been working with really out-of-the-country producers. The one I've been working with most, his name is Sluzzy and he's in Switzerland. Okay. He just produced the song for Migos. Fuck I can't think right now but fuck I'm mad because it's going to cross my head when I get in the car there's songs that they just recently dropped that was popping. But I want to go work with him in Switzerland. Oh, it's going down. They can't come out here because of COVID they got to have vaccines and shit but I can go out there. Oh, you can? So I'm going to bring my studio to Switzerland this summer in July and I'm going to go record it. That's going to be dope. You've never been there before, right? No. I've been to just Mexico out-of-the-country. What made you work with him more than anybody else? I had a lot of relationship but I was one day I was in the studio I had no beats and I was just scrolling down all the way to my beats from 2018 I'm like I had a beat from Sludzie I'm like this motherfucker hard what the fuck so I found his Instagram and then I locked back in with him and he just been sending me beats and he'll send me six beats in a pack and I'll do four of them. Oh, okay. So what about the clothing line? Is it still popping or you ain't doing that? I got it but it's just I had so many ideas so many thoughts so many things I wanted to come about so at this time I'm just doing one step at a time I got hella ideas me and my home girl over there we working on dropping the hat collection I want to drop it tomorrow but I'm doing other shit so it's like you can do everything of course but how I learn shit is I want to certain goals I want to accomplish during the certain whatever I'm doing if I have three things going I have five goals for each thing I got to accomplish at least five of these goals for this and then I can move on to the next one and be working on both because I've already accomplished half of this task if that makes sense Do you have a team? Me? I'm here I'll just go in on these things What I've gotten to is I've shortened my circle it's real small and I think about who I bring around to what things and everything so everybody and certain people that you see on the scene certain people you don't see on the scene Team is important Yeah, it is I know and knowing their strengths and weaknesses and where they need to be at what time and stuff like that Correct to benefit You got to be able to be a leader and see that You got to be open see it as a leader and my circle is everybody a boss you feel me because you got to do something we all got to do something different you got to be a boss and whatever the fuck you do because you know like you not here just because to be around you know like you here because you got to do something Yeah I definitely know that's true because there's so many different ways you got to be able to be responsible for the people that you trying to lead you know what I mean because at the end of the day if you're not then you're failing them as well you know what I mean cause you're the one that's I learned that shit young like I'm 23 I got I can't say what I got you know cause nobody know but I know I got hella more shit that's coming my way regardless if it comes in the next two days or two years it's going to be tremendous Yeah no but I like the way that you're doing I see your brand I see you posting I see you working and that's important so many people try to come on the show that they don't have nothing really to talk about a lot of time because they're not working and then it's like I failed them too when you just put them in situations and they're not even ready for what you put in them I see yeah like for a whole year I was working but nobody could see me working so at the time people tell me what are you doing like what's going on then I'm like nigga let me live bro I'm 21 like fuck I'm figuring this I just left the major level like I'm just I'm trying to figure out my circle like niggas like me niggas don't like me like not niggas like boyfriend I'm talking about society you know but um we find somebody that we love their music and then all of a sudden we know everything that you have we're looking for you to drop something all the time can we just like a theme for your new music we want to hear I wish that I could when you're signed to a label though it's not on you you know like I was dropping as much as I could in my little YouTube videos but I couldn't post nothing on Apple music or you know shit like that because I was in contract so you're independent right now though yeah everything is mine dipped in white publishing that's me and any artist is just you right now not right now but you take later on I definitely will after I like go on tour and do some shit like that for myself then I'll bring somebody around would you ever sign to a label again yeah if they come with the right bag and they come with the right paper work okay top three artists of all time dead or alive any John Lil Wayne number one Lil Wayne number two um oh yeah Lil Wayne was easy Lil Wayne if I had a biography I want my song to be Mr. Carter hey but yeah um number two um number two who the fuck do I want to say Sensi Mali hey number three two and three be tripping out that's shit crazy it's a lot of folks number two and number three you can change it another day I know but like alright Lil Wayne give me ten seconds you hmm who can I say there's so many people bruh I can't choose it for you number two alright we're gonna do number three me no two since they ain't gonna be one we not letting them make you alright who can I say I don't know y'all Alicia Keys okay that's number two number three and uh cause it's any genre any genre yeah and then I'm trying to switch it up um Katy Perry Katy Perry that's dope I like it that's first Katy Perry for sure yeah I had to like think of three different categories because I can't put them in all the same cause it's like I could have said some other shit but I'm like no Lil Wayne Katy Perry and Alicia Keys when you look at this market that we're in cause I know you're pretty much to me you're you're one that have over exceeded the most by touching other states but when you look at Dallas and you look at just what's been going on in this market um it seems to be a place where things are somewhat quiet to me when it come to music like I said but that's me now I'm just that's my opinion behind doors okay in public like now I'm talking about the music I'm talking about the hits the music where is it at what's popping where is it that's where I'm at you're saying like where are we in Dallas we is not it there you go I want to talk about that I want to know that's why I'm telling you because people respect you behind doors they won't salute you in front of everybody on social media or whatever when they see you at their show they see you they're like what up what's up man I love you I've been seeing now you now repost to you and that's cool it's like respect because I don't feel repost to everybody too just because I don't see everybody like yeah I stream shit though that's the difference though like I don't know or if I see something on the ground that I might fuck without clicking and give it a you know a little whatever or even if I don't follow you I'll come in fire marks you know I wasn't like that at first just because I was off social media and I was like my name got a check next to it I can't be seen just coming on the wrong shit or doing the wrong like you know just because people do too much they make shit bad and it's not even a bad scenario they making songs I don't fuck with them like they just do name Big YBA he from I believe Carolina I seen him on Instagram fucked with him I sent him a verse I said send me open send him a verse say cheese poster dope see whatever just by you having that blue check and being who you are I tell people all the time just drop something positive on upcoming artists it motivate them so much you don't know how much just two little things that you could say I literally just tell them people bro be you like fuck everybody that's the only thing that you literally can do cause that's what people forget is to be them they see so much shit that people win doing I gotta do this to win too because that's what they're doing and they're winning no they forget nigga you got your own thing that you was here for it's something that you ain't figured out yet but it ain't what the fuck baby doing it ain't what Beyonce doing nobody else doing you yeah and it's all about like I said timing like God's timing is divine you can't rush shit you can go up you can go down you can go around you can't rush shit you just gotta wait I'm gonna say this man do you want to say something cause I'm gonna shut it down here in a minute if you could go back and talk to say the twelve the seventeen year old no it's about a fifteen year old you what would you advise you for the journey that you're about to be on that was before you deal that was before any of that I would give myself a hug and I would be like just keep being you stop thinking about what's gonna happen that's the way I say dope dope dope man um say man we love you don't let this be the last thing you come on my show dog let me tell you something boss talk hot we gonna get hotter I'm gonna work harder I promise I'm going everywhere doing everything to make show since it might be be back on this show nah I'm gonna come back cause of y'all y'all ain't saying nothing crazy you know nah nah we laid back bro nah everything was good I think like I said this this platform we just try to help people yeah that's it that's really what we try to do cause you know you have a lot of young people that's all they're on all day is YouTube watching videos so if you can say something positive to help somebody out there I got a question for I'm sorry but you got a I got a question for y'all how'd you hear about me I heard about you because uh what a two live that's my he you know this was the last show last and peace yeah this was the last show he done um and his mother and father was just on there as well and so when I tapped into that market because of my son and being cousins with Lil Blake uh I started looking at what he looking at and once I started looking at it I seen you in a big bro I'm sick of y'all niggas man listen and when I seen y'all I was I was totally impressed and I know that this is the way we're dealing with and I knew y'all it's organic because of the way the things happen uh with him being the last and that put eyesight on my whole you know think about it it put everything in perspective can it be came uh Barrio came YSM flip came little juice all over we all used to be around each other so as I'm looking through that scope my dancing years like that's I've known them for about five years but I'm just saying when I look through that scope that's how I feel I figure yeah I mean okay now some blog reposted me but like I know you ain't seen me for no blogs people don't be seeing me from blogs every time I ask people where they see me from it ain't from no blog or anything it's just like I just see your work or I just see you or you know some shit like that that's why I asked okay what about uh I gotta ask you this since you asked me how did you end up on a song with that's dope man I mean like I said you're a person that if you really trying to get something going then you're the person that uh basically I would be trying to get a hold of too you know what I'm saying I'm real genuine regardless of like I'm gonna tell you some life changing shit where you're gonna get something out of fuck with me like you know if you feel like if anybody got a question fucking with me don't fuck with me you know like just stay away from me cause why you questioning you know like everything that I say everything that I do is gonna be beneficial to you in some way wow I see you in gutter TV and I'm still holding it down too yeah that's my dog so I mean cause as soon as I told him he was like is she coming E I'm like really when nigga hell I've been trying to get him for a minute nigga but every time I met him I love to I mean I'm a real believe it or not we street a lot of times and when you like that that energy just meet right I was like you know brick fuck with you gutter fuck with you everybody I mean yeah but you know they might too like they fuck with you I gotta I gotta come see I gotta come see what you talking about I said I gotta sooner I gotta come see but y'all dope though and I love the fact I'm gonna be watching I'm gonna be posting we are about to get more we're about to get more more you gonna see some things happen like you got things about to happen I'm going to shut up my wife's like dang man don't say nothing else I'm like please but it's coming but so and when it do you gonna be like damn that I don't say damn I'm gonna be like I knew it I like my work speak for myself I don't even that's what I'm saying nigga talk about I fell out nigga I can't fall off I'm me what the fuck I'm me ain't no way I got I'm 50 shades of paid ain't no way you gonna drop you gonna get me I get bars right what you want you want it now it gotta be some dope man Yuri you gonna do it now next time though right you promise I got you all right that's all I need to know I'm gonna bring we gonna tie big brick up listen when I do that shit I be stuttering really nah I don't stutter but like I don't know what to call that's why I punch in oh yeah I done had some I mean I can do it though I had some people to punch in and when they got on here and try it and I didn't even put it out cause I'm not doing them like that oh no I ain't ain't bullshit no I was that put this ain't bullshit thank you so much man did we forget anything is it anything major that we should have asked how can people reach you if they want to reach out to you for a feature um go to my Instagram or at sinceimalibusiness.gmail.com okay since Instagram is s3nsi.moly dope so are you tiktok tiktok yes I'm the same on tiktok I got about 20,000 followers let's go you know I be trying to do shit but tiktok so weird you just go viral for being you like you know just doing some mmhmm we had some crazy stuff happening the other day you can go viral for being cute viral for being ugly viral for being real viral for being fake like shit viral for being fat like anything skinny talk yep just eating puffs some people sit down there and just eat yeah like tiktok just crazy instant yeah whatever man you gonna bring the next one out though bring what you mean social media platform nigga let's get this billion dollar money stop playing I ain't got time but it would be dope right yeah that would be dope but like nah I'ma have my own alpha sinceimali fans aye y'all post y'all own happiness on my page y'all ain't gotta worry about trolls and shit on my shit you gonna hold them back when you start trolling you just block them yeah and I can say whatever the fuck so I'ma defend y'all thank you so much man thank you of course no y'all we loved you I appreciate y'all man for real for real man check it man it's been another great segment of boss talk 101 what a boss is talk and we have