 Okay, I love this chapter first and I love this chapter chapter nine the incredible nothing So since you love it so much, I'll let you start. What do you want? How do you want to start this? Yeah, so one of the most easy ways to look at this is that the Character the label the name Mm-hmm It is overly focused on Everything that has form everything that has shape everything that you can like touch and feel and Because of that it is not Concerned with who the subject is Mm-hmm. So so I'm going to focus on the differences This is what has been called the 10,000 things I'm gonna focus on the 10,000 things And I'm not gonna focus on the one behind everything right Right and so because the one behind everything aka I It's not a thing and that's what no thing is Yes, it's not a thing. It's no thing. It's nothing. Yes. I Isn't a thing. Yes. I is some crazy formless mystery called consciousness or God or whatever you want to say I Love it man. You killed that that now we have the answer. So what is I? That's it. It's not a thing. It's this what do you say crazy formless Cosmic, you know mystery like and but the greatest thing about it is that I feel it Yeah, I don't have to think about it. If I try to think about it Who I don't know what where my mind will go, but I feel it and that is enough I feel that I am I I feel that I'm this formless mystery Interpreting reality gaining experiences applying it to my shell Living life feeling the rollercoaster eating the steak But but I itself I Don't even know if you can describe it Maybe this what they talk about when you say the only way to describe it is a negation to talk about what it's not Yes, yes So good, but you know, what is I like you said it's like many things we can say it is but definitely Nothing would be one of the best things because the word nothing to me means nothing. There's nothing. Yeah, there's nothing that can describe it The Dow that can be named is not the eternal Dow So whatever word you use to try and describe it isn't going to be fully it It's going to limit it in some way and it's limitless, right and it'll box it. It'll box it in somehow Yeah, and I also love what you're saying earlier in negation Being one of the best ways to talk about it. What are you quote? negating besides the label Hmm, the right biggest thing for you to negate is your Association With the label. Yeah, so if you can what I've been calling like if you can just put a frickin Probar a little bit of a row bar It's just a little room room into the tightness of your association with your label Mm-hmm, and if you can just wiggle it a little bit wiggle wiggle relax relax and As you do that kind of like the Chinese finger trap the Chinese finger trap as you relax You can actually investigate more and more and more. Yeah, and that's where Realization can dawn that that's really where These next levels can become embodied because we're negating are I'm obsessed on 10,000 things. I'm obsessed on differentiation. I'm obsessed with separate costumes and Now I'm looking instead of at my label. I'm looking at what underlies everything what's at the source What's at the source? Yeah, and is what's at the source the same for everything and so that and so that's I and That's the power of negation to go all the way Notch notch notch notch notch notch notch Yes Nothing and that's how the universe knows itself by that formless mystery that nothing that consciousness that I God the universe knows itself by that formless mystery. Yes, and that formless mystery is Quote identity less and identity full So it has absolutely no identity But yet and yet it's full of an endless identities Endless infinite identity and no identity at the same time and to me. I just find that profound Not the realization, but the ability. Yes the ability. Yes the ability to To have it be that way. It's just like how again, this must be a powerful genius like Entity that's creating such a massive contradiction and it works Like I'm actually my mind is being blown as we're doing because I'm really thinking about that likewise pretty crazy man You just think about it, but yeah And this is as we share with you guys this course What we feel is we feel a a new level ourselves of being able to share What is you could say like one of the most powerful ways to know yourself. Yeah Yeah, and so we're learning a lot through this process and And we're just we're really grateful because this sort of like book plus core structure plus short films This type of like approach to it if you've really made it this far this type of approach to it it can Shift with greater Permanence mmm perfectly say cool. Yeah