 Alright, thanks for staying with us. Corruption has eaten deep into the country and good governance is lacking, but is it still possible to rise above all the current challenges that impedes good governance, right? Can Nigerians look forward to a Nigeria that works? Now according to the United Nations, good governance is measured by eight factors of participation. That's rule of law, transparency, responsiveness, consensus oriented, equity and inclusiveness, effectiveness and efficiency and accountability. So how do we begin to create full proof structure that works? Now is good governance possible in Nigeria? That's a question today please. Let's hear what you have to say. Remember you can join the conversation, send us an SMS or WhatsApp to 081 80384663. You can also tweet at us at Weshaw Africa one with the hashtag Weshaw. I want to hear your thoughts in the second because I want to bring in our guest. Is it possible to have good governance in Nigeria? Yes, it is. Really? Yes, it is. Chinelo, how about you? There's hope. I said that there's hope. Let me just reserve my comment. Olu Bankole Wellington, right? That's Olu Bankole Banki W. Wellington. You know the full name. He's a Nigerian singer, actor, entrepreneur, philanthropist and politician. On February 23rd, 2019, he lost the Etiusa Federal Constituency election to Babaji Day, Obaniko of all progressive congress ahead of the 2023 general election. Olu Bankole Wellington announced that he had decamped from the modern Democratic Party to People Democratic Party, seeking the party's ticket to again vie for the Lagos Etiusa Federal Constituency seat in Nigeria's House of Representatives. Now, in June 2022, Banki W won the People's Democratic Party ticket to contest as the party bearer for the Etiusa constituency ahead of the 2023 elections. We are really, really honored to have him live with us in studio, looking very dapper as always. Thank you so much. You are far too kind. Thank you so much. It's an honor to be here. Thank you very much. Oh my God, where do we even begin from, right? Anywhere you like. You know, okay, so first of all, a lot of young people were heartbroken that why would Banki W go and associate himself with the corrupt party? Because if you look at Nigeria, the bigger parties, for instance, the PDP and the APC, they have been tagged corrupt by the Nigerian youth. They don't believe anything good can come from those parties, right? But I understand, because I understand politics and I understand that for you to win, you need to actually be in a very strong platform. So it is easy for me to understand. But maybe you should walk the young people that are watching through. Why exactly was that decision made to go from a party that was seemingly good to a party that is tagged as corrupt? Right. Okay, so thank you for the question. So in terms of what we did in 2019, the modern Democratic Party was really, honestly and truthfully, just an effort of two candidates. There was the chairman of the party, BK, a friend of mine, who was running in understate, and I was running in Atyasa. Outside of the two of us and our team of volunteers and friends and family that were standing with us individually, there was no party. There was no structure. There was nothing. No funding, no support. The party just, it was just two crazy young guys who said, listen, let's try and do this thing. You work in your state, I'll work in mine, and we'll see what we can do. Now we ran the kind of campaign that I think most people were proud of by God's grace. We're very grateful for what we did. However, structure wins elections, okay? It's not vision that wins elections, it's structure. And one of the things that we learned in 2019 coming to this point is that we must engage with Nigeria where it is, not where we want it to be. And that means looking at the landscape in your state, in your constituency, in your country, and saying, okay, of the structures that can win this election, where do I think that I can stand and find enough like mines and fight for what I want to fight for? Guys, let's be honest with ourselves. Is there any church that you can vouch for 100% of the people that attend? Is there any mosque? Is there any company? Is there any school? Is there any group of people? Is there any family that you don't have one or two people in the family that... I mean, Jesus Christ had Judas in his clique, in his innermost clique. So I think we have to move past this soapbox mentality of saying this place is all good or this place is all bad. A system is only as good as the people that are involved in it. And the more that we sit out this process, the more that the process will be bad, the more that we infiltrate the process, the more that we put good people into the process. And at the end of the day, we looked at the political landscape and the PDP ticked those boxes for us. It is a truly democratic party. When I was meeting with the party leaders to say, hey, you know, I think I'm coming on board. We're looking at it. They were all very happy that I was coming, but they warned me. They said, this is PDP. Nobody can impose you. Me, as a party chief team or a national leader, I like you. But if you don't convince those people in your world, if you don't get that consensus, there's nothing I can do about it. So you have to go back to the words in your constituency and go and convince your people in the grassroots. And that's what we wanted. We wanted a place where don't impose me on people. Let me go and earn their support. Let me go and earn the opportunity to lead, the opportunity to serve. Whereas on the other side, I mean, the incumbent they were running against didn't win his primaries in 2002. He didn't win his primaries in 2019. But it didn't matter because, you know, that's the way they go. And, you know, different groups have different ways of doing things. But the PDP's truly democratic process appealed to us to say, again, it being a democracy is the majority, right? So if the majority of people that you allow to play in the system are bad, then the result will be bad. But the more that good people say, hey, we're going to come in, we're going to get down into this soil and get our hands dirty, and we're all going to work on this thing, then you stand a chance to turn things around. And the PDP gave us that opportunity. It's a truly, listen, if you were following my primaries, you know what happened, right? I won. The next morning we saw a different result. But the party had processes already in place as a party. It wasn't even something that was just me. It was just like, okay, after every primary election, there's an appeals committee. So you follow the process and you fight. And yes, it's draining and yes, it's expensive and yes, you have to work and it takes blood, sweat and tears. But it is possible. We can do this thing. And that's the message. We're building a bridge into mainstream politics in a place that is welcoming us. The PDP is welcoming us. They are saying, hey, we've been running it our way for all along. Where are the young people? You guys come and let's drag this thing out, let's figure this thing out. And that's what the PDP did for us. And that's why we're here. Absolutely. I'm happy that you put that background there because again, we're discussing towards good governance. Let me quickly just say that you are a good brand for the PDP. Thank you. That was stupid of them. For them not to have. Yeah, because again, they are also looking forward to rebranding and trying to see how they can be seen in a different light. There's a brand that is tagged in most of those major parties and that is the big problem. I don't see you facing that, you know, because now Nigeria is a bit wiser. We're no longer focusing on parties. We're focusing on the individual. So it is very possible that you would have gone to any other party as long as your values and the vision that you have for it to sound was really good. And people believed in it. They will still go with you. And that's why I'm sure they had to give you that yes at the PDP. Let me just state that. So now let's discuss good governance, right? There's a big issue in Nigeria. And people think that it is people like you that are elected into office or people that are vying for offices are the problem. There is a structural problem, a systemic problem. People don't understand how deep those things have really eaten. Our civil service is horrible. If you want to get anything done in Nigeria, it's going to be really difficult without having to do the greasing of the palm like we see. So if we say we want to fight and we're looking towards good governance in 2023 and beyond, where do we begin to start off this journey of good governance? So there's something that I say, which is that even though the problems that we have run from the top down, I believe that the solutions are from the bottom up. And I say that specifically talking about politics to say we have to be intentional about engaging with and beginning to plant people at the table of political power. I have been part of more peaceful protest than most people that I know. And I say it not to brag. I say it's just a fact for those who followed my career. You know from back in the day we've been doing enough is enough and light up Nigeria and occupy Nigeria and bring back our girls and ensars and all of that. So we've been raising awareness about the need for good governance. We've been raising awareness about the need for young people or progressive people or enlightened people to engage with that system. But you see the goal of activism and advocacy is eventually improvement and impact. So until we start seeing that improvement and impact, then our activism has not yet been successful. Awareness is good, but awareness is not the goal. Awareness is a means to get to an end. So how then do we make good governance possible? I believe that we must move from protest to power. We must bring like minds into political power and see them at the table of policymaking. Now, when I say the solution is from the bottom up, what am I saying? Elected power is more powerful for lack of or more impactful than appointed power. Because if you're appointed, you serve at the pleasure of whoever appointed you and that one basically controls your time in office. Elected power you serve at the pleasure of the people. It is the people that essentially appoint you and give you that position. And you have that term to make the kind of impact that you cannot make any other way. Not as an activist, not as an advocate, not as a private citizen. All those things are good and necessary. But until we start to be intentional about saying how do we put somebody that we can hold accountable? How do we put somebody that we can, that listens to us, somebody that will truly represent us? And when you're talking from the bottom up, guys, it would shock you the numbers that it takes to get into elected office. In the National Assembly, in the State Houses of Assembly, I'll use it just as a perfect example. In 2019, there were 337,000 registered voters in Etyasa. 337,000 registered voters. Ask me how many people participated? 50,000. 50,000 is a 16.3% turnout. So less than 20% of the registered voters in Etyasa. Now, don't forget, registered voters is not everybody. That's just the people that even bothered to register. Less than 20% participated. Ask me how many votes it took for the ruling party to win? Ask me now. 21,800 votes out of the 50,000, out of 337,000, out of the greater population. So what are we saying here? This thing is a numbers game. And I maintain that our biggest problem in politics and governance is not one candidate or one political party or one godfather. It's apathy. It is the idea that my vote doesn't count, or I'm not going to bother, or they're going to do whatever they want to do anyway. It is that mindset that actually makes it possible for the rigging and all of that to occur. Because the more people that we have that show up, the more those people are the ones that will decide the outcome of the election. One thing I like about the PDP is it says power to the people. When the people take their power back, there is no politician that will not have to answer to those people. It is because the people set out the process. So you want good governance. Start with good elections. Start with putting people in place who believe what you believe. Who will fight for what you want them to fight for. Who will answer to you. Who will be responsive to you. Who will truly represent your interests. And maybe you even say, okay, presidency is hard. Presidency is 15. It's always about 15 million people give or take. House of Reps is 20,000 or 21,800 according to the last election. Senate, you have Senate, House of Reps, State House of Assembly seats that take 70,000, 100,000, 20,000, 10,000, 5,000 people in this country can sway those elections. So we start there at the end of the day. And this is the other thing that I want to, and I think it's very important that young people especially understand this. Most of the time that I'm in rooms with young people, I ask two survey questions. One, how many of us are registered to vote? Because for me that's the bare minimum, right? You have to at least be registered. But the second question I ask is how many people are card-caring members of any political party? That number is very poor. It's very, it's almost nonexistent. Now here's the catch. Delegates select so that citizens can elect. So until we start playing our part in political parties, we're talking about me being in the PDP. More of us need to be in the PDP. And I'm telling you, at least use me as a living testimony that the party is welcoming like minds to say come and let's do this thing together. Let's rescue and rebuild Nigeria together. At least I'm there. And you can see no matter what whoever tried during my primaries, we came out the other side. So this thing is possible. So let's get in to the party. Let's start playing our role. Let's start working hand in hand with like minds who are there. And start saying, who do we want in the State House of Assembly? Who do we want in the House of Reps? Who do we want in the Senate? Yes, we will play our part in the president and the governorship. But those National Assembly and State House of Assembly seats have as much to do with the quality of life that we live, with the environments that our businesses are able to succeed or fail in, with the environments that our children are raised in, with the issues that they have as much to do with the laws that govern our society. And we ignore those things at our own peril. That's one of the reasons why I even ran. Because I was like, I would sit with the young, I say, who's your rep? Who's your senator? They don't even know. Talk less of joining a party to, you know, to be at the table of. So I think I love that we're in a place where Nigerians are engaged, where a little bit more aware, where, you know, there's energy in the air, but channel it, channel it before it fizzles out. And channel it into something concrete in your local constituency. Yes, do what you want to do nationally, you know, but let's build from the bottom. Let's get people into the party. And, you know, me, I'm advertising for the place where I'm at, because they welcomed me. They gave me a seat at the table. The people within the party encouraged me to come. And some people didn't, but some people did. I say, yeah, a good brand addition. So that's what I'm saying. Let's take a break, right? When we come back from the break, we'll continue the conversation. I believe Manny and Chinelo have questions. Stay with us, we'll be right back. All right, thanks for joining us. Thank you for tuning in. We're discussing the topic towards 2023 and we're asking, is good governance possible? And we have with us Uluban Kolei Wellington, also known as Bankid W. Now, remember, you can join the conversation. Send us an SMS or WhatsApp to 031-803-4663. You can also tweet at us at WayshowAfrica1 with the hashtag Wayshow. I mean, you've said so many beautiful things that I'm just smiling. And again, I wish young people would understand this thing. But at some point, I had political parties top also offering card because they now saw that they were coming to combat infiltration. But hey, that's what I'm saying. I wanted to carry card just for the sake of delegates. That's all. You understand? But Manny had a question. Okay, well, I had a question but while he was talking, he answered some of my questions. So what I would just say is we know that democracy is for the people, by the people. We've talked about, you just talked about ways that these people can come out, you know, instead of just giving up and saying that my food doesn't count, they can come out and join in. But do you think that these people are ready for good governance? Because we may talk the talk, but we can't walk the walk. And are you talking about the general population? Yes, the general population, the people. So that's a good question. I think the way that I would answer that is based on the personal experience that I have had in engaging the general population. So when I was running during the primary season in the party, what we did was we attended every word meeting in our constituency. It also has 10 words. So in every one of those words, we would go there, we would engage with the people. Not just the delegates or the party leaders, this is just people. People with grass roots, indigens, non-indigens, residents. And one of the things, something happened, and it actually happened quite a few times. But for me, it was like, okay, maybe the game has changed now. Because we know that in previous elections, remember we discussed apathy before now. We said that they would, you know, there's a mindset that they trust you to believe, to sit out the process. And then they would go to the people who are engaged in the grass roots and say, I'm going to buy your votes for X amount, or this rice, or this Indomie, or whatever the case may be. And I'd be sitting in word meetings and I'd be hearing from the people. And they would actually stand up and challenge themselves. Like we were in VI, in a grass root community in VI. And a lady stood up and said, no matter how much money a politician gives us, how long does it last? Because really, how much can a politician afford to give every voter? Really. Let's call it, no matter how loaded the person is for every single voter, 20K, 30K, that's a lot. It won't even reach that. And so the woman was like, no matter how much they pay us, how long does it last? Maybe a week, maybe two weeks, maybe a month, maybe. And then the next four years are gone. So they started challenging themselves that you know what, when a politician comes and gives you money during election season, that money probably was stolen from Nigeria. So it's your money. Take it, but vote your conscience. Take it, but vote the right way. We saw that in my primaries, if it was a money, last minute money game, when they did the rerun, we would have lost our primaries. Because my opponent was ready to spend, I mean he understands politics and the way that it's always been played and he was showing that. And my team, we were in the office and they were freaking out that ah, he's done this, he's done that. We're hearing that he's giving X, and I said to them, I said, you know, if the work that we've done and the little money that we've spent, if it's not enough, then that's the story. And we walk out and we say, you know, it is what it is. But what we were finding was that people were actually calling right before the rerun. And they said, Baba, I don't chop the money pieces but I will vote for you. And that's what gives me encouragement to say that I think now, people are, they understand differently because that's what suffering does. When you talk about the people being ready, you just made mention of the grassroots people talking because I don't think it's the elites talking about how much they are bribing them. The grassroots people are still ready. Yes, we know. They've always been the ones that determine the elections. How about the elites? Are they ready? So, I would say that from my vantage point, I think that the elites are probably more engaged than I have ever seen them. And I think if you looked around and just caught the energy that's in the atmosphere, I mean, if you looked at what happened during the NSAR's Peaceful Protest, if you saw, I don't think the elites have ever been disengaged. You do raise up a good point, right? Because it is incredibly easier to participate in a march than it is to participate in an election because in March, you see the post on Twitter, you see it on Instagram, just wear your t-shirt and you go. But for you to participate in an election, you have to have registered, you have to have done your biometrics, you have to have gone to pick up your PVC and then you show up on election day. Those are four very distinct processes that you must be committed to. The elections are a marathon, they're not a sprint. We like sprints. Which race do we like? It's the 100-year dash. Which food do we like? It's the one you can put in the microwave. Snapchat. So whether we will see a better turnout in 2023, and I believe that we will, how good it will be remains to be seen. However, let us also acknowledge that the votes in the grassroots come by the elites. Easily 10-1. There are way more votes in the grassroots than in the elites of Nigeria. But it's also in the grassroots where most of the pain is. That's where people are not living on $2 a day. That's where the pain is, that's where the poverty is, that's where the hunger is. That's where a lot of the problems that we have as a nation reside. So for me, what I mean is that if the elites would just rise up to the plate and join the process, you would be surprised at how influential you would be. Because you only have one vote. But by the time you come and you attend the award meeting and you are helping rent chairs and tables and helping organize and you're just involved. There's so much need. Every day, I can't tell you the amount of problems trying to put out fires and help people deal with sick children and school fees and house rent and you know, there's so many issues and there are not enough of us that say, hey, let me come and help out. They have this explaining but the laborers are few. God bless you. And for me, that's the key is that elite Nigeria needs to come to a bargain or an agreement of sorts that listen, the country needs to be on the path towards growth and development. That is something we have to agree as the elites in Nigeria. The people at this table are not the average Nigerian. You know, sometimes they get offended when you call them elites but it's the truth. Where the 1% or the 5% the majority of Nigeria is not at this table. But this table is incredibly, has the potential to be incredibly influential in saying how do we partner if it's not taking too much of time I'll give you a perfect example during the COVID lockdown, all businesses were shut down. You know you'd be driving to the supermarket you'd see that the number of people on the street that were just begging because poverty went up overnight there were people whose daily income was tied to that daily so there was poverty that shut up overnight. There were so many people that fell beneath the poverty line because they just couldn't afford to eat. And I'd be in my residence association group in Lucky Phase 1 and you start hearing somebody was driving to the supermarket they broke her window because people are hungry. Thank you. So what happened? Some some elites would say because I was seeing these messages only go to the store from this time to this time and for me it was an alarm bell the solution is not for us to go and hide I mean I helped exactly helped them so I called Tywo who was a member of my campaign team and part of my foundation we found three other friends Miss Doi, Noella and Maureen the five of us put together Lucky Food Bank we started looking for people it started as what CAC was not even open so we couldn't even register it but we just started the work we formed the WhatsApp group we reached out to people in Lucky O'Neill for over 100,000 people and I'm not saying that to crowd I'm saying that to say that there is need it's possible God bless you that's my slogan, it is possible now I tell you a crazy story months after the lockdown had been lifted and people had gone back to work I saw a tweet on Twitter one day and a guy said he overheard a cleaner in the shop right mall talking to his colleagues and the guy said Lucky Food Bank he doesn't know how his family would have survived the lockdown those are the kind of words that stick with you that's why you do it because you know that God has used you in some way to be a blessing and to sustain people and to be a channel of blessings and that's what this is about that's what getting into office is about government is called public service for a reason we turned it into this red carpet there's not a miracle inside this matter is there no entitlement in this this is supposed to be about people that have a heart for service people that have a heart for service people that you see somebody's antecedents you know that this is who this person has always been and for me that's the driving ambition, that's the goal that's what I'm looking for at this stage of my life is impact its service how can God use me as a vessel to thank you WU for precedence God bless you thank you for precedence thank you from the bottom from the bottom oh my God I thought you had a question okay so I mean it's really good to hear just that I've done quite a bit I'd like to know to you what are the parameters of good governance the parameters of good governance I think if you're talking good governance about accountability you need to talk about transparency you need to talk about responsiveness you need to talk about communication you need to talk about competency you need to talk about engagement and you need to talk about empathy for me those are some of the things that you have to take you must take those you must be the kind of person that is accountable to the people that put you there you must also communication is such an important part of governance because people need to understand you have to be a good communicator you have to keep people informed you have to have regular forums town halls where your constituency can come ask you questions see your report card those problems are available because I want to quickly narrow it because as we are having a great conversation time is running I want to narrow down why you think you are the best person especially Etiusa I jokingly said when you were sitting down Etiusa is one of the most if anybody can solve the problem Etiusa alone has I received it because there is so much movement here Etiusa is the way people are jackpot in abroad people are jackpot into Etiusa it's one of the most heavily populated heavily industrialized there is a lot going on in Etiusa and I believe that if we had smart people in that city that would bring up laws bring up things that would help do some level of and ease some level of challenges that we are going through Etiusa this would be one of the best place local governments to actually live in in the bid to talk about some of the plans that you have what would you say are the top priorities for you your top five list of what you think should be in Etiusa right now that is absent I will start by saying that our legislative agenda is a living and breathing document so we are still tweaking it but it is available for anybody who wants to check it out please go to banky2023.com if you click on the manifesto there you will see the legislative agenda you will see what some of our plans are what the mindset is I am digging into it a little bit and I know that we are short on time I will say this first of all the overarching mindset that I have and that we have in getting into office is that the way that we get out of the mess that we are in as a nation is through innovation and reform innovation does not happen in government offices innovation happens in ways it happens in the private sector in fintech, in entertainment, in media in our greek, in private businesses and in restaurants in Africa Nigeria has five so that for me shows you that we are chasing innovation pretty well the problem is we have been ignoring the chance to put people at the table of reform reform only happens when you put reformers at the table of policy making people who can look at the laws and look at the environment and look at the policies that guide the environment and say is this the smartest way that we can do this thing and we rethink it so now let's get into what I mean by reform take education for instance I think that there is some reform that needs to happen in our educational system number one tech for me tech is an equalizer it's something that levels the playing field at the moment and I'm sorry to say it and I'm not a prophet of doom part of the reason that we are going in and not come true but at the moment we are raising potentially armed robbers and terrorists and gang members and cultists when you go into our secondary schools and see what kind of education we are giving our young people in our public school system we are setting ourselves up for failure we are setting them up for disaster these are the future leaders it's supposed to be the future so for me it's like what does that mean private partnership that introduces a free tech education for people in Atyasa and how many words can we put it in this is the seat of our economy this is where the telecom industry is the tech industry so why do you think it's not happening right now because I think that you've unfortunately for too long we've allowed rent seekers to be in government and not reformers and we need reformers not rent seekers we need people who are going in there saying in a different way and quickly where the country is in a bad situation but it's not it's not over because it's a good idea you don't need to bribe me to give you the contract no you don't again Atyasa is it's the headquarters of our economy so the private sector is here but now aside from saying how do I do this as a collaboration in Atyasa my reformer mindset is to incentivize this that makes it easy for it to happen anywhere in the country and the way you do it is this there is a law that is in place now that says hey where is TV or whatever company whatever bank whatever oil and gas if you pay for this road that the federal government is supposed to fix you get a tax break you get an incentive as a company because government can't pay for all the infrastructure so incentivize government so why don't we put in a law that says hey where is TV or whatever private company if you pay for these tech hubs to be built where young people can come and get a free education in tech then you get a tax break because investing in the minds of our young people is as important as building a road it's as important as fixing a bridge it's as important as any other infrastructure investment which is important but it is so critical we look at India it's a tech supplier for the world for the world because they focus on it and this is what I was saying earlier about the elites having a bargain there's a bargain that we need to have between government between the private sector that says Nigeria must immediately get on the path to growth and development how do we do it tech is one of the ways so we incentivize companies nationwide at least I know even while we're trying to get that to pass as a law we can do it here and I can walk into every company here and say guys this is something that we can start give me one tech hub let me show you what you can do and then we move so it's taking that reformer mindset into education it's taking it into healthcare security and how do we rethink the way that we come I think we need to bring you back let's quickly take comments let's quickly take comments good evening my dear beautiful sisters of water yes it is possible but on one condition it is in our hands your guest made mention that when we are bright we should take it but vote for the right person and I support him many money said that democracy is the government of the people by the people and for the people I agree with the way things are going for the wrong people simply because they want to vote for their people they don't care if the person can deliver we have to rise up we cannot give a holy thing to a dog or cast a pearl before swine so let us remove sentiment and vote wisely I must confess you ladies are looking beautiful and lovely thank you Daniel thank you go ahead money picking good evening ladies and bank uw is it possible for electorate to have impeachment power over precedent if his performance is far below expectations in the UK ruling party executives can impeach or pass a vote of no confidence on PM by calling for an election within the party we have too many party party government in Nigeria thank you Ade do you want us to respond to that let's quickly take the final comment good to see bank uw good governance is for sure a possibility in our country towards 2023 we must put our acts together and checkmate those in power now let's not make another mistake again let's lay a foundation for our children please great topic always at ways you want to quickly say it is possible to impeach a president but it comes from the national assembly which is why it is important that you put so a good national assembly should be able to hank off a bad president or impeach a bad president but you have to put people in there who know what they are going in there to do you are there with an oversight responsibility on the executive it's your job to checkmate them yes to say are they doing the right thing what are they doing here no mr president you can't do that or in the state case of the state house of assembly no mr governor you can't do that we support you for this or that but you need to have people that are going to have that mindset of their own with that mindset that has the best interest of the nation at heart and I hope with these few points of mind you have been able to convince us you have been able to convince us you have been able to convince us every young person out there you see the reason we are bringing different people because somebody is accusing us I hope we bring other people and all of that we are bringing different people across some party ways does not belong to any party what we want to do is listen to the minds of people that are vying for offices it is important that you hear that and if you feel like this is someone that can drive us that can lead us to a promised land by all means vote beyond party structures let's start to educate ourselves for what is important and what we need and suppose just waking up and saying no it is the way we used to vote blindly when we start for one party we just go like that all the way no more let me just end by saying in PDP so please remember this God bless you thank you so much have a great time I love great conversations because for me open your eyes and see wait thank you bankie now before we go I show you follow us on Instagram, Tiktok everywhere you can drop a comment most importantly follow all our engagements and social media like share invite your families and friends to watch we drive great conversations it is 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