 This is the SF Productions podcast network Streaming Wars the umpire strikes back from the pop culture bunker I'm Mindy and I'm mark you can check out our audio podcast how I got my wife read comics on iTunes or on our website SF podcast network comm Believe it or not. It's been three years since we last provided an overview of the streaming services Since then the major players have consolidated their control But now new players are there are on the horizon and they got a lot of dough and there are several markets that Streaming players can buy for like the smorgasbord market vast programming libraries award seekers high and original Programming with a big push at award time court cutters Which are suppliers of over-the-top programming from single or multiple traditional broadcaster cable channels niche? Specific programming for tiny dedicated audiences not tiny midget people. Let's start with the established players Netflix has 130 million users or at least accounts There's a lot of sharing going on with 62 million in the US The cost is from nine to sixteen dollars per month with 27 billion dollars in 2018 revenues They spent 13 billion dollars on content 85% of which was for their originals their markets are the smorgasbord award seekers and niche So Netflix finds themselves in a race to replace their traditional programming sources TV and movie studios with their own original programming Before the studios finished creating competing streaming services There's also the question of what a Netflix program is is it a movie or is it a TV show when it comes to award time? And both industries are pushing back as Netflix encroaches on their award chances. They've done very well despite this black mirror The crown and Roma we've been Netflix subscribers since the days when you got your DVDs there But we're wavering on whether we'll remain or not especially as new services arrive Amazon Prime Video over 100 million users of Prime But only 26 million actually use the video component cost is 13 dollars a month or 119 a year But that includes the free shipping and a lot of other stuff their revenues mmm They spent five billion on content last year and their markets are smorgasbord award seekers court cutters and niche through bundling options like HBO go crunchy roll, etc It's difficult to determine how much Amazon actually makes with Prime video since it's part of a much larger Prime service We know they're a distant number two in terms of user base and will likely remain there for some time It's also unclear how much they make by bundling other streaming services It can't be a lot since the other services don't charge much or any premium for it It's more of a single bill convenience factor for users They also push for award eligible programming to compete with Netflix such as the marvelous mrs. Maisel We have Prime video as well, but we don't heavily use it. It's really more for the free shipping Yeah, Hulu has more than 25 million users in 2018. The cost is six to twelve dollars per month Their revenue is about three billion dollars in 2019 with 1.5 billion dollars in ads They spent more than 2.5 billion dollars for content in 2018 Their market is the smorgasbord award seekers and niche Hulu's always been an odd duck in this race created as a youtube killer by abc nbc and fox It wound up being the place where most per broadcast tv programming goes to stream with the exception of cbs Which we'll get to it also competes in the award space specifically the handmaid's tail after recent transactions hulu is now owned 66 percent by disney abc With 33 percent by comcast nbc cable town shineheart wigs and the latter will likely sell out to the mouse house We've had hulu for years, but we'll see what remains after corporate musical chairs comes to a stop Then there are the up and comers acorn tv at five dollars a month about 800 000 users and brit box at 6.99 a month About half million users their market is niche to different sources for uk centric programming acorn has deals with itv channel 4 and bbc worldwide along with producers in canada australia and new zealand brit box is an official partnership between bbc and itv and the closest we'll ever get to the bbc i player Only available legally in the uk neither includes any content you could get on bbc america One has to wonder if both services can coexist long term We did the acorn tv trial and it's decent, but not something we would keep as an ongoing service Maybe when a new season of a show comes out and then drop it CBS all-access cost is six to ten dollars a month eight million users including showtime streaming their market is Cord cutters cbs was the only broadcast player that avoided hulu decided to go their own way Which took a long time to come to market? They're hanging their hat on new shows based on cbs own properties along with runs of their existing broadcast shows Star Trek discovery supposedly pulled in a lot of people along with the good fight and the just released twilight zone remake They also provide live cbs streams in many markets CBS is mining star trek for a number of new all-access series Keep in mind that all-access is us only which means these new series are ending up on netflix elsewhere We've sampled cbs all-access, but it's hard to justify it so far even for us trekkies DC universe cost seven ninety nine a month seventy four ninety nine annually No real data so far on user base or revenues. The market is niche. Definitely As a long time dc fan see how i got my wife three comics on sfppn I was so excited to see what dcu would be It includes a selection of dc movies dc tv archive new original shows and digital comics We jumped in with an early pre-sale deal. I've enjoyed it so far Especially the original shows such as titans and doom patrol However, dc intends to sell those shows elsewhere after an initial period There's a titans blu-ray coming soon, which I think is cutting themselves off at the need There's also recent worries that upcoming shows are being reduced in length Plus the specter of warner media is yet to be announced service. Why would they compete against themselves? This makes dcu questionable long term ESPN plus five dollars per month or 50 dollars per year plus 25 dollars per month to add major league baseball and nhl sports sports sports sports blah blah blah An alternative is fubo tv, which is basically all sports not on espn for 55 to 75 dollars a month No interest for us only in the olympic season. Yeah HBO now slash HBO go now is 15 dollars a month go is included in HBO's cable cost HBO did a terrible job in marketing these two services So HBO now provides a library of existing HBO properties a la netflix HBO go allows you to watch regular HBO on mobile devices It's widely assumed that most HBO go accounts are being shared by millennials from their parents cable subscription We've never really gotten into HBO stuff Pluto TV Cost is free with a lot of commercials Pluto TV bundled a large group of niche channels some available on their own sites some curated for Pluto I'd often watch mst3k on their dedicated channel there The commercials are annoying often dropped into the middle of the scene and repeated endlessly But not bad enough that he'll watch the dvds that he also They're also about to add a dedicated bbc channel including classic dr. Who then there's the over the top bundlers of existing cable channels Hulu with live tv cost 45 dollars per month or 51 if bundled with hulu Add 15 to 30 dollars per month for a network based cloud dvr Live tv in a few markets plus a lot of cable channels Direct tv now cost 50 to 70 a month that includes HBO which at&t now owns along with direct tv And in a big hit to the service nfl network is being dropped along with a number of other channels At&t has their own long-term plans for streaming. So direct tv now's future is unclear By low tv cost is 20 to 24 dollars per month depending upon the channel lineup Basically the anti espn plus with a some cable channels sans sports It also includes an unlimited cloud dvr shows expire in 20 days Plus a lookback function that goes back 72 hours on any channel We tried the free trial and kept running into the same problem. There's so little to actually watch on cable I end up watching lawn order constantly PlayStation view cost is 45 to 80 a month depending on the channel lineup Local channels in some markets plus a lot of cable channels and a cloud dvr By the way, you don't need a playstation to use it. So why call it that worst marketing ever Sling tv cost 25 to 40 dollars per month plus add-on packages Yet another group of cable channels to get local tv. You need hardware and an antenna We actually did this they offered an android tv based air tv box cheap and it worked well for a while We it provided live tv a dvr It you just hook up a small hard drive to it and some cable channels since it was any android tv You could also run netflix hulu other services through it However, we never really watched the cable channels and dropped sling while keeping the rest But that's now become problematic because it seems like you can watch live tv for a few minutes And then the box randomly switches to hulu for some reason There's little official support for android tv and online searches turned up zilch. So we're looking for a new option now YouTube tv cost 50 dollars per month. It's another service with locals cable channels and dvr The only problem with this service was that it wouldn't run on amazon fire devices a feud between google and amazon now apparently resolved I keep getting offers for it every time I go into youtube Okay, so that's the players today coming soon the media empires apple tv plus cost Coming fall Apple made a huge introduction for this service Which has been anticipated for over a year major stars and producers were tripped on stage Reese Witherspoon, jennifer aniston, steve correll, jj abram, steven spielberg, big bird and Oprah Apple tv plus will go for the award seeking market with a handful of high budget high end tv shows What wasn't announced how much it would cost actual trailers for those shows when at all launch Maybe in the fall sometime. There's also an apple tv channel's app coming essentially apple tv plus bundling options The hoopla over apple tv plus quickly dissipated after we heard the details of Disney plus cost seven dollars a month available november 12th market smorgasbord What's included the marvel films the star wars films the pixar films the disney vault not so fast song of the south Decades of disney channel shows the fox library and the simpsons thanks to their recent fox purchase all 30 seasons Nat geoprogramming original series from star wars disney marvel Meanwhile, all the non-family friendly programming will go on hulu Convenient as disney will most likely own it outright soon So yeah, i'm thinking disney plus will do well It will be hard for any household with kids to avoid it I also think the planned price of apple tv plus just dropped Now there's a conspiracy theory that apple tv plus is fake and that apple will just buy disney outright Which they actually have cash on hand to do by the way that price is 247 billion dollars Also disney is tops in synergy so expect things like Discounted merchandise early movie tickets deals in the parks exclusive events like red carpet premieres Now there's also rumored services from warmer ner media and comcast neither of which have announced much But you can keep your eye open for them and we will tell you about them Meanwhile, you can check out our audio podcast how i got my way through comics on itunes Or on our website sfpodcastnetwork.com from the pop culture bunker. I'm indy and i'm art. Thanks for watching