 You know, it's one of those ones that I'm guessing, you know, you put something together. Yeah, yeah, I think I'm going to go with it. Yeah, it's fairly minor. Man, that's awesome. Yeah, I think there's enough stuff and it shows it. Sure. Alright, it is four o'clock and we will call the April 28th architecture review board to order. Steve, if you could please run us through the rolls. Sounds good. Joe Clark. Present. Alderperson Savaglio. Jerry Jones. Here. Richard Lindy. Here. Pam Lanyon. Here. And Robert Heimerle and Charlie Wiggs said that they would not be making today's meeting. Alderperson Savaglio. Right, but we do have a quorum so we can get rolling. If everyone could please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. And any of our board members have a potential conflict of interest with anything on the agenda today. Hearing nothing, it looks like we're all good. Move to item 2.1. Approval of the minutes from April 12th. Motion in a second. Any further discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Minutes are carried. Thank you very much. Items 3.1 and 3.2. We've got some housekeeping to take care of. Need to elect a chair and vice chair. Do we have any volunteers? I'd like to nominate Joe Clark as chairman. I thought you were going to vote yourself in there, Dick. So we've got a motion and a second on the chair. Any further discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? All right. Thank you for your confidence, everyone. Vice chair, I would, we have a motion and a second. Well played, Dick. Any further discussion? If not, all those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Congratulations, Jerry, and thank you very much. Thank you. All right. Now we can get down to business. Item 3.3 is the proposed exterior remodeling of 1234 Kentucky Avenue. I believe we've got the applicants on the phone. Good afternoon, everyone. Scott Myers here. Are there other folks who are part of the group? Yes, there are. Yeah. We have Gary Gertman and Sam Leroy with questions construction. All right. Thanks, guys. If you could give a brief introduction. We've got the images that were sent through. They're up on the screen here. I think we've all had a chance to look at them. But if you could just give us a quick rundown of what you're proposing. And then we'll, we'll have further discussion. Yep. With regards to the exterior, we'll let the pictures do much of the talking, but first of all, there is going to be an abatement of the siding as well as the removal of the window coverings. Window openings are going to stay mostly intact with the exception of the second floor. And then many of those windows are going to be moved over or replaced with windows just in the corners of the building. So we've got a mixture of a couple of different types of windows. So we're just going to go on the exterior of the building. We'll be replacing doors, meaning both the, the rollup doors, a garage style doors, as well as dock doors and the, the man doors. Gary, would you want to add on anything to that? I believe Sam correct me if I'm wrong, but I think we have samples for you to look at. So the orange panel is actually an ACM panel, a positive metal panel that has concealed fasteners. And there's two types of metal panel that will, they'll have a color steel color and the charcoal color will be a complimenting metal panel siding. Gary, could you walk us around the elevations of the building and just kind of describe a little bit of what's going on on each of those elevations? Sure. Sam probably could do a little bit of help here too, but I think the, the featured corner is the Southwest entrance points. The featured entrance with the canopies with feedback from, from the city. Good feedback. That's going to have the orange aluminum composite material accenting that area. And just trying to carry some consistency on every elevation, both in highlighting the corners, the orange panel and then consistently carrying around the, the charcoal band to break up by the building and floors with compliment gray color, the lighter color and the darker color. So then this is your south elevation you're looking at there with the main entrance Southwest and then the accenting corner to the Southeast. As you roll around to the East side, we'll show the dock doors that are currently there would access to the lower level storage. And again, then from your viewpoint for me, and I'm going to see the accent corners, the orange accent. And then again, I'm going to see the accent corners of the building, that's the north elevation. Again, to keep it in consistency of the dark gray lines wrapping around the building with the, with the lighter gray sighting. And again, it kind of repeats again on the, on the West elevation to keep it consistent around the perimeter of the building. And maybe you can mention the second floor and that there were no windows on that floor in terms of the uses that are available. Correct. So the, the second floor is planned to be storage units. The, the windows have been eliminated. So, you know, you can't visually see the, the storage units and then the accent band again, breaks up that floor, the floor right now. We do have windows on the second level that'll be obscured. So you can't see the storage units through the windows, but we want to maintain the kind of consistent look with the windows at the corners at the second level with, you will not be able to see the storage units through the glass. But again, just keeping the consistent look and then also just maintaining the existing openings on levels one and three, filling in those with new window openings. Great. Thank you very much. I guess first comment from my end is, it's fantastic to see something actually proposed to happen with this building. We've seen it come before several times and never get beyond discussion. Certainly an eyesore now and fantastic to see it being done so nicely. I think your general approach deals with the huge massing of the building really nicely. It's, it's simple but effective. My only concerns with it come from the proximity of the window edges to your orange trim bands. And that's maybe just a, a detailing or proportion issue. The areas where you have the windows right up flush to the edge. I don't know if it's possible to either eliminate a window to have three instead of the four grouping to leave a little more space there or just to give just a little more space to the orange so that it runs continuous. The one that you're indicating there was fine. The other one looked to be right up at the edge of the windows. Is there any elevation you would prefer to show it, Joe? So like the south elevation is a good example that at that feature corner, that south elevation, the orange band at the edge of that feature corner is right up at the edge of the jam of the windows or maybe just a little sliver beyond it. And that, that's just a little awkward to me. It's just not balanced nicely. A couple of thoughts had been either run the orange over to sort of the midpoint between the banks of windows or in that instance, if you did three windows instead of four, just to give yourselves a little more breathing room there. And then that same sort of philosophy carrying around the corners. Some of them, the windows are completely within the orange trim. Others, they're up to the edge. Just looking to get that a little more consistent would be good. I think that's a good feedback. I think that's a good feedback. I would like the idea of splitting between the windows to give it enough material around the windows and then maintaining the window with. So they're consistent rather than eliminating windows. So I think as we work through the construction documents, and we're going to be using all the recommended manufacturer trim transitions that I like the idea of maybe splitting between the windows where we transition the orange to the gray. I prefer that option as well. I think if we stick a different window size in there, I think that that's a good thing. That sounds like a good idea. Thanks, John. It seems to me that solution from where I'm sitting, I would be happy with staff approval on that when it comes back. But once again, I'm monopolizing the conversation. Thoughts from everyone else? Dick. Sorry. We need to get your mic. Yes. On the corner of the south, the Southwest corner of the building, there's two canopies, both independent. They don't touch at the corner. if it would be possible to continue them to create a continuous cover at the entrance to make it a little more welcoming as a shelter in there. Yeah I think that was just a design consideration but as far as uh connecting them connecting them at the corner wouldn't be an issue if that's uh desired. Thank you and did everyone hear Dick's comment? It sounds like everyone did even though the mic wasn't on. Great. Any other comments or concerns? Feedback from the board? Chad. So I know you guys can't see me I'm behind the podium but anyway I just want to state that we've worked diligently Steve and I with cautious and with Scott Meyer to come to a plan that we think works for everybody on this property. The planning commission denied a use back in 2017 that was all storage at this location. I think we've come to a compromise that works for both the city and for the developer and you know we've hear over and over every day complaints about this building particularly from the neighbors so we're happy to see a design that we think kind of fits at industrial look and deals with some of the issues and we're excited to see this project move forward. Thank you Chad. We are too. And thank you to everyone for the time and effort gone into this to make this an improvement to the neighborhood. I much appreciate it. I make a motion to approve subject to staff recommendations including the change in the setback for the windows as Joe mentioned and also the continuation of the awning all the way around as Dick recommended. We have a motion and a second from Pam. Further discussion is one item Steve you would include it in your notes was the outbuilding it's a pump house or something. Oh yeah thanks for mentioning that. That was one of the things that staff would be able to work with the applicant on. They are going to see if they need that. I believe Scott that was something you guys are going to think about raising if it's not needed otherwise if it was needed the applicant was going to work with staff with regards to making that outbuilding similar material and design and look as to the structure. Absolutely correct with the goal of eliminating it if at all possible and if not then coming back and making a mini version of the larger building out of it with the same ethos and materials and colors. If all the nominating members are okay with that we'll include that in the motion. If there is no further discussion Steve if you could read the roll for the vote. Joe Clark. Aye. Jerry Jones. Aye. Richard Lindy. Aye. Pam Langen. Looks like that passes congratulations and thank you guys very much. Thank you very much I appreciate it looking forward to get it started. What is your sketch on that one of you anticipating it actually starting to see construction? Getting out final numbers of farm cautious obviously from that point we're at least 90 days out from getting bank financing and then also raising the balance of our capital so if I had to guess I would say roughly 120 120 days. Okay great fantastic to hear it's actually moving forward thanks again. Thank you. Appreciate it. Any further items from the board? If not do we have a motion to adjourn? And a second from Dick all those in favor? Aye. Anyone opposed? We are adjourned and next meeting is looking like May 10th. Yeah and we will have a meeting. Great thanks everyone see you then. All right thanks everybody. Thank you.