 So hello and welcome to the project slam. I'm Rebecca and I work for the communication at Nemo And I have the great pleasure to introduce six very inspiring individuals to you who would tell us about six equal inspiring projects and With this session we want to empower you to either get started with climate action in your institution Or maybe get a motivational boost that might be needed after a while when you already launched a project and Projects buying climate change can sometimes sometimes we can feel they have to be really big and huge and We all heard Kirsten yesterday saying that we do need systemic change, but we also need to start somewhere and Therefore we have invited these six people to showcase that there is several steps between the big and the small actions that people and museums can do for climate and After all I would say that all steps are important because at the end of today was the most important is that we do act and do something So I will tell you a bit more about the format So we'll have all six presentations All six people come up and do their presentations one after the other and then we will open the floor for questions So while they're doing their presentations I would suppose that you write down your comments or questions that you would like to bring up in the Q&A and And first to take the stage is Anna Salvador who works as the project manager as a house of European history in Brussels Anna has been part of the team that developed the recent exhibition Throwaway the history of a modern crisis which made the House of European history take a very critical look at its own operations and literally start to sort through its trash And because after all you have to practice what you preach and this is how operation rubbish was launched and Anna Would love to hear more about this so the floor is yours So I would like to ask you do you happen to think twice before closing the trash bin lid? Have you ever stopped to check what is already inside or? When throwing away do you happen to think where is a way? If you don't don't worry. I was not different until three years ago My name is Anna Salvador as Rebecca said and I joined the House of European history for a not so secret operation rubbish and What was supposed to be only the fifth? Temporary exhibition of a very young museum meant indeed much more for us With the exhibition throwaway the history of a modern crisis We were grieving our modest Contribution as an history museum to the current debate current and urgent on the climate emergency But why rubbish? rubbish is for sure not the only part of that environmental crisis but it's maybe the most visible the most tangible one and It is everywhere including in our museum. So was it fair? to invite our audiences to reflect on Consuming and disposal patterns if we were not ready to do it. So so this is how this exhibition open space for experimentation in our museum and We start moving from a linear to a circle circular way of building exhibitions Because at the end we were doing an exhibition about rubbish that was supposed not to produce too much rubbish or at least less than previous temporary exhibitions very wasteful per se And could we tell the story of what? Europeans were throwing away for the last two centuries if we didn't even know what we threw away the last two days This is why we got our ends dirty and some of us in our team became the modern rag pickers and operation started We asked everybody in the museum to start using clean beans and to clean their waste which is contradictory and We would collect it everything that was organic or Zardos waste was to be kept away for obvious hygiene reasons, maybe not so obvious every week someone failed to comply and Therefore all the waste was Verified meticulously a second time before we would Move it starting carrying out from our two buildings to a third one Through check securities long corridors Elevators many stairs many doors and really reach a secret room in the basement Where that waste which we kept away from the diligent stuff cleaning stuff that wanted so hard to get rid of with the Off it what did did once against our will? Finally after eight months we got enough waste to fill in a visually attractive Installation that would be the opening of our exhibition. It would be the testimony of our self-critic exercise The visitors should be able to see in detail everything that we threw away for eight months Well, not everything some things were kept away because they were too small or too big or too dirty Or too wet because we complained about it every day But somehow we forgot that in Brussels it rains every two days So those things out we finally started Installating it and We suddenly realized we forgot a not so small detail it was simply not safe to Exhibit all those Inflammable material in an open installation So at the very last minute we had to add a second container a closed and Fireproof one to contain the first container. What does it mean? That's after weeks drafting technical specifications with sustainable Criteria after months collecting the nicest reused Materials or locally recycled ones. We finally added ended up adding and not reused Not recycled brand new material and this is just one example that building a circular exhibition is not always easy Circular materials are not always safe from museum conservation point of view. Most of the time they are more expensive than the linear version of it and Only when dismantling this exhibition with what will happen in January 20 to 20 for 24 We will be able to fully assess our wasteful We were because circularity is much about the afterlife of those materials And by the way in January 20 24, we will also be organizing with nine other partner museums as symposiums to share our experience and You are warmly invited to join us online and talk about those throwaway culture and What next? Because we already Anticipate that much waste. Oops. Sorry much work is still to be done at the house of European history We just set it up Sustainability task force and we will be doing our best Efforts to ensure that the lessons learned during operation rubbish are at least not thrown away and thank you Thank you Anna for sharing your garbage with us Next line is Harry cut more from the National History Museum in London where Harry works as a partnerships and program producer and In 2020 the Natural History Museum boldly declared planetary emergency and set up our vision for a future where people and nature could thrive together and With this project the generation hope act for the planet the museum moves beyond being a source of information to actually providing Or like being a source rather being a source for empowerment For young people so that they have the tools to be part of the solution and ultimately the museum would like to Create the next generation of climate advocates, but I believe Harry you will tell us a lot more about this Thank You Rebecca And as you so perfectly summarised I want to talk to you all to say about a program that we're running called generation hope and We think this program exemplifies a lot the strategic changes that we've been undergoing in the past few years And we start with a question And I think it's a question that we've been asking ourselves over the course of these last two days And that is what are we doing? We are Europe's museums galleries science-enters and what is it that we are doing in the face of a planetary emergency? We asked ourselves this question in our strategy in 2020 in 2031 it will be 150 years since the Natural History Museum first opened its doors and so to mark this of course We had to write a very long and very dense strategy paper outlining how we would get there But we can surmise this strategy in two ways Firstly, we declared that we are currently in a planetary emergency We felt it was very important to us as a trusted museum that convinced thousands of visitors every day That we make this declarative statement that we are in a state planetary emergency Not just a climate crisis, but we are facing habitat destruction and biodiversity loss at unprecedented rates We are very much Facing the extinction of not only countless species, but our own as well So we had to decide what are we the Natural History Museum going to do in the face of this crisis and our answer in our solution Our proposed solution is to create advocates of the planet to take our visitors and empower them to make a change We identified three key ingredients about what makes an advocate for the planet and advocate is someone who speaks up on behalf of People and planet for the benefit of both These three ingredients are one that we want to inform our audience I mean, this is pretty simple, right? We are museums. We teach We are also an active science center with over 300 scientists And we want to make sure that the scientists at the heart of the conversation that we are having with our visitors It's probably nothing new to a lot of us. It's maybe the second ingredient the inspiration That is more of a shift for us as a museum We didn't just want to center ourselves in this conversation We wanted to invite the change makers the activists the young people at the front of the climate crisis who are experiencing the worst impacts across the globe to tell their stories and the solutions to platform the solutions that they are Implementing to both adapt and to mitigate the crisis And finally we want to empower these visitors We want to give them the tools to leave our museum and to make a change in their own lives to continue the conversation with others in order that we can build a network of advocates So we built a program called generation hope Generation hope uses these three ingredients by creating a program that works for young people That platforms our scientists in conversation with climate activists so that together they can discuss solutions moving forward We want to give the visitors that visit our program the resources to make a change in their life We convened an advisory board of our scientists as well as young activists from across the globe For example Daphne Frias, who is not only a climate justice activist, but also a disability advocate awareness Campaigner who lives in New York Like Mitzi Jonal Tan who is living right now in Metro Manila in the Philippines facing constant flooding and hurricanes People like Selena and Lim who was the youngest person to ever speak at the COP 21 conference These are the people who we want to platform at our museum and the people will we want to design programs with Because these are the people who are our future We designed a program of 18 events convening over 3,000 people over the course of six days This was our pilot program This is where we wanted to experiment with the advocacy model that we created in order to see if it worked for our visitors and I'm happy to say that it did it had a lot of the Intended outcomes that we wanted to achieve People felt like they understood more about the climate crisis and they wanted to take away the fact that they They could engage others themselves learn more and change their own behavior Of course, these are self-reported outcomes. They're not perfect and neither was the program There were plenty of learnings that we found and I just wanted to share three key ones with you But they can all be surmised by the fact that people want to know how they can make change in their life And as a museum we wanted to provide that for them So what is next for us in this program? We ran this program in March of this year and we will continue to run it again in February 2024 we will convene again a program for young people aged 18 to 25 Engaging them on topics all across the range of the planetary emergency For example, we are convening audiences on issues such as eco anxiety We are engaging people on topics such as how indigenous people Play a role in the conservation of our climate and our environment and the rights that we need to champion for them But we want this to be more than a program that just runs in London We want this to be a global program that builds a network and creates a platform to people to come together We of course want to root our program in what is locally available to us in our local communities But we also want to work with you nationally and globally to create local communities That you can speak to and empower to become advocates so that we can together build a global network So if anybody is interested in finding out more Or would like support and getting involved in running your own generation hope programs I am available to talk to you more information or please just reach out by email. Thank you Thank you, Harry, and I hope you will get some emails later today and some conversations in the coffee break. Hopefully Next is Kato Eberling who is the head of development at the National Maritime Museum in Amsterdam And I think we all know about Agenda 2030 But do we know about equity positive by Agenda 2030 2030 and more concretely how a museum can be eco-positive by 2030? Kato will explain how the museum is working towards reducing its ecological footprint and becoming a circular museum So Kato, please come up on the stage and share your positivity. Thank you, Rebecca First of all before I start I want to thank the Nemo organization to giving me a platform to spread our eco-positive words But To be honest the main dilemma for me during these past weeks was Should I even go there in person? Please raise your hand who took a plane to Finland in order to get here Well quite a lot of people so A round trip from Amsterdam to Helsinki has the equivalent of Over 600 kilograms of carbon emissions and we can do all those things with these total amount of carbon emissions Even enlighten the entire Eiffel Tower for seven days. That's insane, right? So several ideas crossed my mind should I do this presentation digitally go by sailboat like Greta? But why that would take me way too long so my final thought was okay Hope I'll get there I will go there for the six minutes and minutes and hopefully I can inspire my peers With our eco-positive story and learn from them as well. So I hope to exchange with you all more in this afternoon So here we go. Well, I already I was already presented by Rebecca very nice and then I will go directly through To my position in the National Maritime Museum is besides that I'm head of development. That's the Department that is responsible fundraising and partnerships I'm also a member of its green team and a co-initiator of at last the future of exhibitions Which is a platform and also we organize meet-ups for the Dutch museum sector around sustainability topic This is the National Maritime Museum as you can see your beautiful monumental building We as a museum take the responsibility for our planet and in particular because the shipping industry as we all know is one of the Signific has a significant proportion in the global climate change problem more than 3% of Our global global dioxide emissions can be attributed to ocean-going ships So as a museum we set ourselves the ambitious goal to be eco-positive in 2030 and We are aim is to provide in the needs of today and Without putting the needs of future generations at risk Here are some facts on the museum The more critical viewer immediately Immediately sees some obstacles to our ambition in 2030. You see old monumental building although it's renovated in 2014 We have a museum and a depot too we that have Climate challenges, of course, and we reach and we have the travel movements of our public The best thing we could do as a museum is quit our operations, but hey, we are museums and we can do better so We have the unique position to inspire our audiences to take positive climate climate action as we are doing with these conference Then to our sustainability journey Imagine yourself on a ship pointing towards an eco-positive museum in 2030 and you have your steering wheel But in the one hand you the possibility to reduce your negative impact and in the other hand Enlarge your positive impact. So above Underneath the water. We have the negative impact that's divided in five areas energy IT and data storage mobility Horeca and materials and waste and we're working hard to through to read to reduce our footprint by reducing our Negative impact and on the other side. We're working on enlarging our positive impact on four areas personnel or staff the public Programs and partners and in this slam. I will mainly talk about our carbon dioxide Emissions, but we include all nine planetary boundaries in our roadmap to 2030 To minimize your negative impact you have to know where you stand So this is what we did first we did a maze baseline measurement because to know of two measure is to know Second we set a long-term ambitious ambition and we formulated goals on the five themes and calculated the CO2 reduction that it will yield and also we set 15 measurements And we specified our positive impact So this is the baseline measurement We did a couple of years ago and that resulted in 5,000 ton of CO2 CO2 or carbon emissions 39% belong to The waste and materials and 49 due to mobility so that are all the suppliers and visitors coming to our museum What obstacles did we encounter along the way? I have a whole list, but I will enlighten some of them of course the footprint of our International tourists is huge And in addition to our Income as a museum We get revenues as a very popular event location. We host around 400 events every year from gala dinners to Conferences this has a huge impact on the mobility area for sure Suppliers who drive back and forward with materials and products and But what I think is that we have to talk to our suppliers if they are willing to invest in for example electrified trucks And we cannot avoid Hosting less events in my opinion furthermore. It's hard to reach a agreement on vegetarian menu in our employee contain and since climate activists Have glued themselves to pieces of art. There is an ongoing discussion in my museum, and I think many others Whether we should accept money from our sponsors like the Dutch aviation company the harbour in Amsterdam because they use fossil fuels and I must say in our new sponsor proposition. We take a close look on the sustainability of Our company or our new partners what I've learned along the way is that We should start a conversation with the partners because most of them are also working on sustainability and Talking with them They will think along for sure Then I will talk about our positive impact as a museum. I talked already about Mobility and we are promoting public transport in in our museum in Amsterdam and next year We will launch a fully electrified boat together with a shipping company and 15 other cultural institutions in Amsterdam And we will stimulate our public to come to the museum or the other institutions by boat and by train Furthermore regarding our program we Schedule at least one exhibition a year to put the sustainability topic on the agenda for example we Presented the exhibition rising tide in 2019 that was a photo exhibition on the climate crisis and the rising sea levels around the world and This year or at the moment We are presenting an exhibition that's called food for thought and that reflects on the huge role The Netherlands has in the woodwork world wide food industry in this exhibition we The construction of the exhibition took an important role the sustainability on that we use we rented out Shelves you can see here to for the construction from a distribution center and we used cardboard boards to for the text and Last but not least Last year we initiated at last the future of exhibitions, which is a platform. You can look it up online Where we share our where we share Best practices from the whole Dutch museum sector and tips and tricks you can use and we also organize physical meetups Around several sustainability topics so to end up I Have a thing that I would like to talk with you further more Okay, that's this and To end with a quote with Simon Sinek Dream big start small, but most of all start Thank you cat. Thank you Catherine. Sorry for cutting you short, but Remember the question and we can talk about it in the the coffee break. I'm sure So we halfway through the exhibitions s are not except persons, but the presentations And next up is Oscar repare who works as the curator for cultural anthropology at the Museum of Recent History of Selje We're all probably familiar. We're working with tight budgets and limited resources and having to find creative methods and Urskine will highlight that being inexpensive economical and practical We are often sometimes without knowing it already being sustainable So even if you think you aren't able to get started with this the sustainability measures It's possible that you already have several green practices in place without maybe knowing it Urskine excited to hear more about this So please the stage is yours Hello, my name is Urskine and I come from a quite small museum We are 15 employees all together So this is how to introduce green strategy to a smaller teams in smaller museums and in terms of Sustainability we are actually we have quite a lot of room for improvement We are in this old and energy and efficient building, but that is something that it's not easy and quick to solve Most of our employees and also visitors come to us by private and not public transport But that's also a problem of society and not so much of a museum So it will take time to change it But what we can change and where we started was that not many of our employees will Actually aware of the impact that their work and also their private life have to the environment and To be honest the institution as a whole is not really fond of changes So they come slow and in this case they come too slowly So when about a year ago we started the discussion about how to introduce a green strategy for our museum To do some changes for a better future We didn't start with radical changes because we knew exactly that that would lead to more Opposition than the approval, but we were started we first started with evaluating what we already do Those are the practices we use for other reasons sometimes because we have to because we don't have any other options But indeed it turned out that some of them are The best starting point for our green strategy So let's take a very quick overview of what we actually do in our museum. We reuse all kinds of material So we keep elements of past exhibitions all the exhibition furniture different materials and try to adapt them to new designs This also means that we actually keep thinking news and If we keep them in the exhibition space, then we don't need storage space. We don't have it all So it's really useful for us We try to repair a lot of things sometimes we even try to repair things that are not possible to repair like plexiglass You see it on the picture This is on our current exhibition on the topic of waste So we used this sticker. It looks like a visible mending. So it's completely safe to put the objects in although it was broken before and At the same time it fits into the topic and also into the design of the exhibition What we do is we work in a really small teams That's something I always complain about because it means that you don't have Enough experts to discuss with you don't have architects You don't have a big company to do the setup you normally have just one or two curators External designer and one technician who is employed in the museum, but if speaking of sustainable production It also means that we have a complete overview of the process from the very beginning till the very last detail on the exhibition So we know what materials we have on disposal to work with what we're going to use and what we also know From the beginning is how much waste are we actually going to produce? so That could be a really good motivation for us to keep it low In order to avoid printing text on different plastic materials two years ago We decided to use Cardboards and we even thought that it's possible to reuse it My idea was that after the first exhibition we would print on the other side But in the very last moment when we brought it back to the Company to print on it It was it turned out that it was actually not possible because the reverse side was not smooth enough anymore So what we did was the cheapest and the simplest solution by now We printed on the recycled paper and use drawing pins to attach them to the existing cardboard Some of them were printed gray with the but water-based color So even after it it was still completely recyclable It was very simple and even our designer was satisfied with the way how it looked Those kind of very less Last-minute solutions are mostly possible because we always work with local companies Even if their prices is not or not at the lowest at first It always burn paid off at the end Because not only that we save on transport coasts and total emissions They understand the way we operate that they come to the museum We can take them to the storage and show them what we have on disposal So that way we support the local business, but also local community So those practices are probably something that most small museums do or at least those who are on tight budget But these are also something that we can include in our green strategy because they are sustainable and The most important part to encourage our colleagues to do or to go with us on this way is to present them as the first steps Because the first are always the hardest and as you've seen we have already taken them So from here we can really start to do some more radical changes. Thank you Thanks a lot. Next up is Anne Lavens who is the director of the Bellevue Museum in Brussels And after pondering the role of museums in fighting climate change, the Bellevue Museum decided to curate change And went on a journey towards sustainable tomorrow Anne will share the museum sustainability initiatives and what kind of effect they have had for the institution and for the visitor So Anne please Thank you, Rebecca for this introduction. So I'm Anne Lavens. I'm the director of the Bellevue Museum You see there and I have six minutes and Rebecca will cut me short if I take too long To talk to you about our sustainable Journey we are taking so when you look at this image You see I place the Bellevue Museum on an ice lap which brings us to the key question of this conference How can museums take action to face climate change? So the Bellevue building was once a luxury hotel when it was a royal residence three consecutive museums had their place in the building and through societal change the building has Changed very little Interior changes were minimal exterior even less except for the huge class Atrium that was placed in the inner courtyard now facing climate crisis. This needs to be addressed We need to get this enormous carbon footprint of the building down So but first I'm going to do a little experiment. I've never done this before Please take out your phone Scan the QR code and let me know the word that comes to your mind when you think of museums and sustainability So you have about 10 seconds to do this. So you have to be quick And then afterwards we'll try and see if this will bring us a word cloud which we can after This short talk maybe talk about during lunch or the reception this evening So let's try and see I think was that 10 seconds maybe yes Not sure this is going to work Looking at the technician Let's see You need to click. Yes It's not clicking so Let's keep that I would propose and maybe we can send you the word clouds after the presentation So I made a slide Hoping that these were the things that you would put in the word cloud and I'm looking at waste management but in an exhibition context an eco-friendly building Waste from a temporary exhibition and climate control in our museum rooms But I was also hoping to find Education engagements awareness other things that I esteem are also very important and Inspiring to talk and to think about but as we explore sustainability in museums Let's also think about how it connects with making our spaces open and how Inclusivity is Important now in the two decades that I have worked in the museum sector at first You know museums was still a bit of an ivory tower, you know closer from society But we started opening up and being accessible Physically and on the content level we started to be inclusive inclusive. We were there for everyone participation became important co-creation with communities making exhibitions and workshops together and after the digital rush which stressed many of us I think during the pandemic We are now maybe facing the biggest challenge of all which is sustainability and So that as Kirsten Dunlop suggested yesterday We need to create spaces that continue to be relevant and inclusive but where to start For me Sustainability starts with the team, you know, it's been said in the previous Presentations you need to get your team on board the colleagues service provider suppliers Inclusive transition getting everyone on board and making sure we leave no one behind is key And we have noticed like many of you have undoubtly as well that every new change encounters, you know difficulty There is some resistance. It's hard to change working habits It takes some time because before these changes are integrated and they become just the way we do things So you have to persevere you have to talk about the reasons and Importance and maybe like it was mentioned yesterday Sometimes you have to be a little bit of a dictator and implement certain measures if you want to accelerate changes So with the team we're on a steep learning curve Questioning every aspect of our functioning and our operations But at the same time we are more working more and more on climate education So we are learning and teaching at the same time Organizing workshops and exhibitions on citizenship and climate themes we aim to create awareness stimulate critical reflection and show that all actions matter even the small ones but most Important for us is that we empathize that is crucial to find the common ground in the different perspectives and find solutions together Polarization is to be avoided and collective action inclusive transition are what we aim for Now regarding our building we really want to bring it into the 21st century Proposing to cover our roof With a huge metallic structure with solar panels This plan is enthusiastically being supported by the heritage Administration that 20 years ago was being difficult about our question to put in double glazing So we have come a really long way and now the heritage Administration is looking to the Bellevue to set an example and how you can transform a historical building to become Sustainable we are a test case for them and happy and honored to be one. Let's be bold So our vision is clear and I'm wrapping up Incomprehensive Sustainability needs to be in every aspect of our functioning the building the working culture our activities and exhibitions With our team suppliers Contractors on board we are aiming towards a sustainable and resilient future But we also know that we will sometimes fail and if we do we need to learn from that and most of all Most important of all we should never give up. Thank you very much Thanks a lot done so we reached the last and final presentation of this slam Session and the Elinia Valerio will share how the Natural History Museum of Oslo Have invited secondary school and high school students to share their thoughts about climate change and how they relate to it and This educational program climate dialogue gives teenagers a chance to Discuss climate change openly and freely in a safer space and Elinia the stage is yours Thank You Rebecca and thank you Nemo for giving me the opportunity to be here and present our program So today on this stage, I'm going to tell you a story So maybe a fairytale and every fairytale has a magic wand I can start from Once upon a time There was a small country Dressed in blue white and red The country was pretty small, but there were pretty big things happening there Can you guess what country I'm talking about? Any suggestions? No way, maybe yeah, 100 points And climate change was a pretty hot topic in Norway and Not everybody agreed on what we should do and how we should do it. So it was a sort of having two big teams one of them was the Hurray team and the other ones were the boo teams So people didn't know how to talk to each other about climate change But luckily not everybody was messed up by climate change in Norway There were indeed some brave knights and Wise wizards that every day from the wooden castle were fighting against this To make people understand what was going on with climate and the wooden castle was beautiful It had walls of glass a waterfall from the roof and a beautiful garden Let's have a look inside No sound for me imagine the music It's not working All right pretty cool, wasn't it? and One day the wizard had a brilliant idea They decided to open up the wooden castle for the young villagers to come and have some gathering there Which they call the calamite the climate dialogue And when the young villagers were coming to the castle They could visit the castle and learn more about how and why climate is changing and When it was time to talk together They like to sit this way in a circle where everybody could see everybody and What everybody could feel included and like worthy wizards as well and the reason were wise So of course they saw that these young villagers had a big potential But first they need to learn how to talk and listen to each other's Because when you learn how to listen to other's people opinion Then you can eventually shift your perspectives about things and So maybe feel free and safe to share without feeling judged by others and These make you feel included regardless what your opinion is After a while more and more villagers start to join these gatherings Because they saw how important it was to see things from a different way But there were some strict rules during these gatherings. It was not okay to attack other people's opinion like in a debate But instead try to listen to understand like in a dialogue Because actually Dialogue from comes from the Greek it means through the words There's a sort of flow of meaning and for the wizard was important to ask open questions Like for example, how do you feel about this? What solution do you like the most and why do you think we are keeping going the same way? But of course not even in fairytales. Ever was perfect Some villagers really got disappointed or angry with the wizards because well, you know someone didn't care at all but Climate change Some others were not ready to change their lifestyle because of what reason we're saying and Actually, could we blame them? They are teenagers Yes, so all in all what we learned by having a climate dialogue and We learned that teenagers really don't want to fix our mess They need to hear about solutions and not to inherit our problems And they have pretty strong opinions They know what they want they know what they mean and they deserve a place and a chance to be heard and Mostly some of them really are asking why should I do something when decision-makers don't could we blame it really? But on the way we wizard we understood that actually we could have done some things in a better way like for example It was difficult to stop teaching while sitting in a dialogue because we are wearing so many hats all the time But sometimes we forgot what hat we have on and when It's all it's never okay to judge others So we want to show the same empathy regardless the opinion that we listen to and Of course we want to be neutral when we sit with them in dialogue We just want to meet them where they are and not to get them where we want to And if you have been inspired and are thinking about having the same in your museum, we have some suggestions for you Find a suitable place So it's going to be easier to create a safe space So no interruption no distractions. I Remember to have a dialogue and not a debate and learn the difference between the two and Least meet them where they are they are teenagers They are confused, but at the same time they are the nobody what he wants. So we all relate alike to climate change and This is Important to have it in mind. So now back to the start. It's time to do the magic. So I try abracadabra Yeah, it's working. Okay So what we really hope is just to help these young people in building that bridge across different perspectives and opinions by learning how to listen to others and Of course, you know as library tell and everybody lived happily ever after Yeah, of course and well or So we never know and we are all welcoming any sort of feedback that you want to give us So, thank you Thanks a lot So we will now move on to the questions So you can stay on the stage and have a seat over here And then I would like to welcome Anna and Harry and Katya Urska and Anne up on the stage again and I'll start but please think about your questions and we will soon open up the The floor so to close the circle again, which Elena just did I'll go back to to Anna who has been quiet for so long now to ask If this circular approach that you had for the exhibition also has spread to the rest of the house of your European history in terms of operations Yes, indeed this exhibition was the first Exhibition where we wrote it Black on white in the technical specifications that it would lead our decisions But we were starting a little bit earlier to do something on that sense already Building some more permanent Structures in our galleries to allow future temporary exhibitions to reuse those structures We were already keeping some displays and vitrines and the example was given this morning that we could reuse later and the servers service providers with whom we worked for this exhibition were asked to Look into that material and reuse it as much as possible and for the future Exhibitions that are planned We are already reusing much of the those materials including the ones that were installed for Throw away the history of a modern crisis and that on that those will not even move They will stay in the same part of the gallery and be reused exactly as they are and Much more is to come. It's very excited to follow the Development. Do we have a question from the audience to one of our presenters Well, you can think about it And in the meantime I would like to ask you Harry And excuse me if you said it because I was preoccupied from and it removed my earrings But these young people that you engage with how did they get in touch with the program to begin with since this was the first Time you did this program So this program was preceded by an online event series that we did as part of an exhibition called our broken planet And so we did have some existing connections and but really it was just as simple as us researching about the young people Who he wants to collaborate with a lot of these young people? They they are looking for these collaborations They want to work with museums and galleries and they attend things like the cop climate conferences And are working with with the UN and within their own organizations And so I think there's this myth that it's difficult to get involved with these people It's not you just have to make the decision that you want to and they are very open to you reaching out to them So what we're hoping and as we continue the program is that we can facilitate some of those conversations between The young activists that we work with and other museums and galleries Seems like the bottom line is to just do it. Don't think so much. It's that simple. Yeah um Todd Yes, please Hi, thank you. Thank you for sharing this story. It's really inspiring. I'm a colleague of kato so I won't ask her a question Full disclosure. My name is Ninka. I was really curious for also the others How you feel about inviting in a more radical approach to this topic like we heard this morning in the panel with A wonderful person from extinction rebellion. How do you feel about bringing actual activism into the museum? Is that something that's terrifying or interesting? anyone feel compelled to answer I Don't mind starting. Um, I Think if if you'd asked us five ten years ago if you'd be able to run a program like this, it would have been no But I think the alternative is a lot more terrifying You know these young clar activists they are Working from a position where they are genuinely fearful about their future And and as Rebecca said in the last panel, you know, they they are just people and And actually what we're hearing from our visitors is that those are the voices that they want to hear And a lot of our older visitors sort of say, you know, we really appreciate music We don't want anything to change they have this nostalgia for the museum And the young audiences are telling us and if you don't change we will not visit you In the future we will lose your this you will lose your visitor base So I think yes, it is scary But but the alternative is is fading into a relevancy because if we as a big National and natural history museum and science research center can't talk about something as important as Climate change as the planetary emergency What is our existence for I Could follow up on that we had few experience because we are very young museum. We opened in 2017 But it happened that when the movement Friday's for future was on fire in Brussels We had an exhibition about restlessness you'd about different cold restlessness you'd about different generations of Europeans demonstrating their ideas on the streets or the way they were living and We invited the Belgium Leader of that Friday for futures movement to a talk that was live streamed So it happened in the museum and it was live streamed online too. It was our first experience Inviting activists in our museum Our my colleagues creators also go very often to demonstrations because they want to in their free time and As a personal decision, but they happen to bring objects to the to our collection that our testimony of today history and afterwards we invite those activists who were drawing the posters or wearing a plastic Coat made out of plastic collected in the sea we invited them to contribute for the stories behind those objects and Finally with this exhibition throw away. We were so lucky. I was so lucky because I was recruited for that task to meet people dealing with the waste management in Brussels and get their voices included in the story that we were telling and People dealing with waste management were not the only ones. We also Were in contact with zero waste Belgium, which is the zero waste Europe representative in Brussels and they are active Defending a zero waste way of life. So we were very lucky with all those Experiences we also have an experience of collaboration. We invited youth for climate justice To collaborate in our current exhibition on the topic of throw away so They were the one who decided so decided what they want to contribute and they wrote an article for the catalogue and We invited them to do the quite a tour on the our exhibition But with their own words and their own perspectives so to also give them a floor and To opportunity to speak to museums visitors. Thank you. I see we have a question here. Oh Several questions actually. Oh Does anyone have a microphone yet? Yes, a question for our last presenter for these climate dialogues that you have with the teenagers How often do you hold them and also how do the students the teenagers become part of them? Is it on a sign-up basis? Is it part of maybe like a scheduled school visit? Yeah, how it is happening. Yeah Actually, we invite and the class to visit us but before they are working with Some activities just to get to know what it means to have a dialogue together And that's why they understand the difference for example between a discussion and dialogue debate where in dialogue is important to listen to others while in a debate is most important to talk and Not all of the classes they come across as Has had the time to work with it before And not everyone is comfortable enough to share thoughts So we have some experiences where it was completely silent. You know, nobody was just okay What's her who should start so we have some techniques? We have some ways we learned we wizards We museum indicators will learn how to have a dialogue with them And actually we see that when we ask the students, what did you like the most about coming to the climate house? Several of them just name when we said together and talk together Because it's not something that they used to do in the classroom to be heard for real Yeah It's nice We can take one more question, but I would like to ask if anyone has a question for cut or un to see if we could Do you? Yeah, can I say? Yeah. Okay. All right I'm Lena Hanrolena. I was working at the Finnish National Gallery and I was thinking about all this rubbish project how Beautifully we had Fluksus exhibition and we had Joseph boys the first of May or the rubbish He had been you know blocking some day and it has been reserved at the exhibition and and Then we have had beautiful project with young people so that We were maybe six museums They were youth who really didn't want to Not know very much about the museums and they came to work, but it was a little bit hurting because Because they hadn't been working at the museums and during our broad check we had also was with they started to love To be a part of you know stuff and and do real work they had two weeks to prepare an exhibition and then afterwards they asked can we for a summer job and It was quite terrible because we did audience work and we didn't have the permission to you know Allow to hire anybody and and so I was thinking about the administration and and how we have been talking about Communities and and so on and activism and so I was thinking that could it be possible to somehow Make it easier to have a continuity with youth so that there would be a Kind of place for young people to come and work at the museum so Just you know change people and so that they could have a small touch How it is to preserve and create and you know plan the future and and Respect the past because nowadays. I think that the administration and everything is very very complicated and At very careful and so We'd always do projects Yeah, because you work out for the community, so perhaps Yes, okay So yeah, we have some we've had two youth groups as we'd like to call them in The past the first the first one we called the Bellevue Band And they helped us with our a permanent exhibition about 10 years ago Because then we were in the phase of the inclusion and the co-creation and we really are our most important Public for us our young people So we wanted to include them in making this exhibition together So we had a group of young people between 18 and 25 or three years that helped us with the whole Development and the co-creation of the museum so it is like you say very important to find a way to have them on board and to work with them and after the tragic After the project after the three years We thought okay, you know, they were it was very interesting. It was very engaging We learned a lot from the young people But these were young people that were interested in museums And we actually wanted to do a project for young people that didn't go to museums. So we had a second group of young people younger between 14 and 18 very diverse because then we were really focusing on on diversity and We noticed that they just don't didn't want to come to the museum. They wanted to have their own space So we took out one of our libraries that wasn't really used a lot and we made a living room for them where they could come and hang out a really feel part of the of the museum work and they would come in the week Whereas the first group came in the weekend and we didn't see them and the second group came In the week on Wednesday afternoon. They would come and hang and we had regular contact. So it is You can always find ways to engage The young people but you have to listen to them And and find a way to make them feel at home and comfortable and welcome As well and also legitimate because the second group when they first arrived in the museum, they were really oh my god Can do I actually have a right to be here? Do I actually have a voice? What is expected of me? This environment is so impressive I'm not sure if I will be able to deliver So you have to put them at ease with workshops with Going on outings spending time with them and including them and giving them a voice So it is you know administration is Can be really heavy, but you can always find a way around it Very good. And then to to finish off because we are unfortunately running very much out of time I would still like to ask you a catheter if we take a step back and a bigger view of on the sector How do you feel what do you feel like the museums and we can do for the sector overall? First of all, I think we should share our knowledge and experiences more often For example via a conference like this, but More boldly I can think we should I think we should formulate a shared mission and we should take a sector-wide statement and Also take accountability to reach the climate goal. We want to reach So yeah, I think we should take action as a whole Global sector very good. That's great closing words to take action. That's what this conference is all about so thank you so much for listening to these presentations and joining us and I'm sure they will answer more questions in the breaks and at the reception But we would like to say thank you for us and I would leave the stage to our chair of Nemo David