 I think you'd be happy if you said acting. I'd be happy with your rumors name. I call him Tom. Tom Bedowski. Okay. Additions or changes to the agenda, Tom? We don't have any, Mr. Chair. Any public comment? No comment. Hearing none. Treasurer Dunyan isn't here, so no Treasurer's report. He gave the paperwork to you folks. I think they're going to throw it down. Okay. Let's see here. Emergency medical services in Berrytown? Put into your packet a letter from Car Rogers Town Manager at Berrytown. I think the contract is coming up with the town for their medical services. And I also put in a note from Keith Van Eyderstein. He's the town fire chief. I wanted to get a comment on the relationship. You can see the chief is saying he's very happy with the relationship. He put in words in people's mouths, but if there's a way to extend it, we wouldn't have an issue with that. So I'm just seeking the pleasure of the board on this contract. In the past, we have put it out to bid. Each time it comes up for renewal other than the additional years if we do it that way. I don't know if there's going to be any other service providers. What I would recommend is that we have a motion to put it out to bid. Let's put the Berrytown EMS services up for RP this year. I'll second that. I'm coming in contract. I'm coming in contract. I'll amend the motion. Any further discussion on this? What term are you looking for? I would think three years right out. If they want to take and give us any additional years after that at a separate, you can consider that when it comes up. It's pretty much what we had the last time. So it's again three years initial term with an option for one additional year or one or two. Because usually what they do is they just, however, how are they extrapolated out another additional two years. I think we think that Berlin's done it for the three years with the additional two simply because it gives us a chance to see what is happening as far as expenses are going. You don't know if there's a template for this RFP. Should be in Dana's office. Okay. Any other comments on this? Those in favor? Motion carries. I see Roberts not on the phone yet. I know he's traveling to try to get there. So Brandy Saxon is on the phone. Brandy, you're on the phone, correct? Yes, I am. Thank you. You're up, Randy. Okay. I was just going to give you updates on where we are with town center planning. We're still working through some of the background materials. With hopes and plans to still have that draft application ready to go towards the end of October. So we're moving through the elements and checking them off as we get there. We've made progress on the water and wastewater pieces. There are two components to this. One is getting notifications and sort of sign off from ANR for confirming that indeed you do have water and wastewater service and adequate capacities to serve development within the new town center. We've done those calculations and come up with an estimate for planning purposes of an additional 100,000 gallons per day of water and wastewater capacity and those are within your current unallocated reserves. So there's not any issues there in terms of not being able to have enough capacity to demonstrate that you could support the proposed development at the new town center. We've gotten a sign off on the water component. We're still working on the wastewater piece with the EC to get that form signed off on. There is an element that will be coming to you. There needs to be an ordinance done that will allocate wastewater capacity to the new town center. Based on that estimate of 100,000 gallons per day. That's about 30% of your current uncommitted reserves. My recommendation is that you would write this allocation up with a requirement that at least 30% of the uncommitted reserve be dedicated to the new town center. Another element that you could add to this that would help with the new town center application process and demonstrating meeting those state's rules would be to set aside an allocation for affordable housing as well, something like 10%, to show that you are making an effort to support and plan for affordable housing in the new town center. Those elements will eventually come to you. They could either be adopted as a standalone new ordinance, second ordinance for wastewater, or they could be incorporated into your current wastewater ordinance and you'd have to open that up and amend it. So whichever way is the simpler route forward, we can do that. It isn't a lot of additional material that needs to be added fairly like a page. It has to get put in place for that. So I'd like to add, Brady, that the Public Work Board, this was on their agenda last Monday. They reviewed this and their sense is that they would like a standalone ordinance in case the application is applied. There's not mudding of the waters of the regular wastewater ordinance and water ordinances that we have. So that's what their, theirs or others would be. And as you know, the Public Work Board has been working to, there's been a significant percentage of the $200,000 on a day allocation from the city of Montpelier has been allocated but not connected. And when we started this, there was about 110,000 gallons of that. We're down about 54,000 gallons. So we're making some progress in getting those gallons released back to the town, which again helps support the new town center. Anybody have questions for Brandy? Well, I guess the only question I have is why would we allocate so much of this so far in advance? Did you hear that question, Brandy? I think I heard the question, why do you need to allocate this so far in advance? Yeah. The requirement, one of the state requirements for the new town center program is to have an allocation. You wouldn't necessarily have to have 100% of what you anticipate is going to be needed for the new town center. But you need to be able to demonstrate that you can provide enough water and wastewater capacity to serve the proposed development over, you know, a reasonable planning period. So a 10 to 20 year time horizon, given that you've got a significant more wastewater, uncommitted reserve capacity than the 100,000 gallons. Like I said, that's about a third, a 30% of the current uncommitted reserve. It doesn't seem like that would be a major, you know, impinging on your ability to serve other other portions of the community to put that allocation there. And then you can adjust the allocation, you know, annually when you look at it in terms of what's available. And you would have the opportunity to make adjustments to the ordinance if you needed to. And this may be a better question for Tom. Tom, can't we just buy more allocation from Lima Bayer? We have a contract now for 600,000 gallons. We have an option to extend that contract for another 16 years. There are some benefits built into that contract for the town of Berlin. If we open up that contract, things can change. I guess my second question is, we have to pay for that allocation one way or the other, right? Or the rate payers still? For folks that are, once it's used, when the town didn't, when they negotiated this contract, didn't pay a lump sum, the City of Montpelier has been saying to me that likely in the future they're going to pay, you're going to have to pay for additional allocation. I guess my worry would be that the rate payers now will have to pay for that unallocated use for a decade or two decades. No. Okay. Good. The other question ahead is, with the wealth we have now, do we have capacity? The water is the limiting factor. I mean, that's the one of the two utilities that we have is what we have to... If the town saw a tremendous amount of growth, we would be looking for a fifth well. Again, that... As long as the man's there, it makes absolute sense. It absolutely makes sense, yeah. But we've only got now... Well, the way up now, it covers this request with no issues. Okay. Any other questions? Brandy, thank you. You can go. Okay, thank you. Have a good evening. Municipal planning grant, Carla? So, I'm just here to... There's a formal resolution for the Planning Commission to sign to or agree to submit the Municipal Planning Grant. It requires a $2,200 match for the $22,000 budget. So, you would essentially be committing to the 10% match. And this, again, is to do a municipal needs assessment. And I think it's a... It is tied to the town center application, but I think it's a good independent project, standalone project in itself, because I think it's a good time to start looking at the needs of the town and assessing what, you know, with the growth in the facilities and having the wastewater and all that. I think it's a good time to see what the needs are. There'll be a new town administrator at some point, and this might be a good time to just sit back and assess that. So, I think regardless of the town center application, it's a good project to apply for with minimal investment and with good return. So that would just... I signed it as the Planning Commission recommending it, and Tom has that, and it would just require that commitment by the... So, Mary-Paul, that this application has to be in to the state by end of the September. And requirement of the municipal support is one of the items of the application process. So, you'd be committing to approximately $2,200. Do we have that in budget? I don't know. Tom, that was not the right answer. I mean, the other thing to remember is the application can go in. We don't, you know, it's not except the funding if, you know, there's a problem. So, there's no harm in applying and then, you know, seeing what happens. We don't even know that we're going to get the grant, and if we do, we can always reassess at that time. Any other questions for Carol? So, I do have this letter of support. You guys saw a draft of it at last meeting. If you could make a motion to support this, and you as the board sign it, I would in the planning commission would appreciate it. You hear a motion? I make a motion to sign a letter of support for the municipal planning grant. Second. Any other discussion? Those in favor? Aye. Aye. Motion carries. Thank you, folks. Thank you, Carol. We're on. Good to see you all. Thank you. You too. Thank you. I still see Robertson on. Robertson on. So, I would like to talk to you about the Crosstown Road culverts. Okay. I put a, the assessment. We had a team come in and do an assessment of the two culverts up here on Crosstown Road. We're in good order. That's just some minor sentiment and material like that on the bottom of it. A little bit of where showing, but nothing that's critical. So, I would encourage the board to start looking at a capital budget. That includes those two culverts. Those two culverts, yes. They have no rotting on the bottom or anything like that. Nothing. Last and good news. That was good news. I think anything else on Crosstown culverts? Okay. Thank you, John. Still not Robert. I'm going to move to this that thing. I spoke to him today. He spoke to, you remember the one we left at the last meeting? We talked about the possibility of concreting the floor of that culvert. That was plan E, I think it was. So Robert has spoken to the regulatory agent about that plan. Jared has asked for some design on it. So where it was maybe a 10% possibility. Robert is thinking it's a 50% possibility today. We've also asked the state to allow us to go past October 15. They allow this. We want a positive vibe from that as well. The weather rolls. There's no water in the snitches. That's correct. So I don't have anything definitive for you today. I hope to have some further hopefully good news in the relatively near future on that culvert. The property buys you about 10 years. It's not like the solution that the sleeve was, but at least it allows to have some better planning and maybe some... Sunside before that. Correct. Can you make a notation on that so we don't forget that during the budget cycle? Okay. We're not going to win anyone this year, but I'm not thinking so much of the concrete part of it. No, I get it. Capital part of it. Okay, anything else on Fisher Road? No. Okay. Draft town administrative search committee. It sets you folks around in an effort to move this hiring process of town administrator along. It's purely a draft, good, bad, and different. Let me know what you think. It spells out a way to move forward on the selection. And you could see who I populated with already. Chairman and Justin as two select board members. And I said one from the five standing committees that we have, and one from that same group and then a fifth one to be determined. Five member hiring committee that thinks manageable. But again, I'll take your lead on this and I would like to encourage the board to move forward on this hiring. Number five to be determined. Have you talked to Rosemary? I have not. If you see, I added her to the second committee down there. I know she would have an interest in serving. Yes, okay. You can approach her. Have you got any names from the item three and four? Conservation, DRV, Fire Planning, and Public Works. I've spoken to DRV, Public Works, Planning, and Conservation. I've not talked to anybody from the fire. I can talk to Chief and I'm either signed on that and see if he would or has a recommendation for that. I haven't asked the folks from those four committees. I said this is the process I'm thinking of anybody to be interested in serving. I haven't got any names back. Does the board feel like for the town administrative position we should all just be on the hiring committee from the start? Well, I don't think we all need to be there to thin out the hurry. We need to get down to the final two though. Two or three, I would think three. In the past, I've done this before and what has happened is we have one person that we really love. They don't accept the dollar amount, they don't want to relocate, whatever. We get the second person and then half the board, they didn't help or it wasn't part of the process, gets pissed about a year down the road when no one likes the current person. Hypothetically, I'm not having managers and just talking about some positions in general. Just trying to think of how do we get buy-ins from everyone that this is going to be a long-standing position, hopefully, for the town as an administrator. Can we bring in, I don't want to make the committee too big, but it's always good to have some community involvement too. If you guys meet as a board, it's a public meeting, so you would have to go into executive services. So you'd have to be warned that way, but that's the only stumbling block. I'm certainly not looking for more me-ins. I'm just, you know, a past experience of just... Would you be more comfortable with your replacement? No, it's certainly not about me. If everyone feels comfortable with two people and narrowing it down to two or three people, then I'm good. I just wanted to highlight it as something that... Well, I mean, even with, well, the thing of it is, with two people on the bus board, at least it's not a quorum, and there's not going to be a, quote, select board favorite, you know, because it's only two members and the other three members, hopefully, will be able to do some critical thinking. What are you thinking? There should be more feel-up. Other opinions from outside perspectives off today is what I heard you say. I mean, for me, the town administrator, it's all about, he's got to be able, or he or she hasn't got to be able to work with the town, the town up here in the office, and they've got to be able to work with the public. What about Diane? Have you thought about putting her on there? He's in the second committee. Number four. Okay, very well. I think if we narrow it down to three, I'd feel a little better. And if we're going to keep it up just to select board members, if we're going to down to three... I agree. I mean, it gives you that little bit of buffer. Yeah. It's the first two, for some reason, don't come through for you. So when you say we narrow down to three, that entire step forward? Just the hiring committee. The hiring committee, yeah. Then the sub board will hire out of the three. Okay, yeah. That makes sense. Anything else on this, Tom? Do you have the TBD? The 2B Determined? You mentioned Rosemary. I know she'd like that. She could be on that. Yeah, I actually no problem with that. So nothing else on that, Tom? No, I'll clean it up. And are you guys okay with the rest of the schedule where this can no longer be a draft that this is our working document? Yep. Alright. Any comments on that? Okay. There are volume buttons on that speaker there. It's all the way up. It's probably the muffle of our masks. Yeah. Okay, that must be the problem. Okay. We're about to Department of Public Safety, State Police Barracks, you location, Tom? You all received emails or emails from the Department of Public Safety. I'm going to let you know that they are going to pursue moving the middle sex state police barracks to their pain termite north campus with an anticipated completion of December of 2021. I've reached out to their building managers and talked water and wastewater allocation with them. They believe 25 headcount will be in that building. And for those who aren't, don't really know where that's at. It's on pain termite north, nearly directly across from Richardson Road there. So I'm just letting you, if you didn't see this in your inbox and just let you know that it's there. They're going to be coming out. I've suggested as soon as possible that they come in and present to the slack board on what their thought process is, their design and stuff. So you'll be seeing them coming into you for their initial review. Are they going to change you outside of the building at all or just be inside? My sense is that there's a likelihood they want to keep the building itself. But they, I believe they will change the exterior and I know they're going to change the interior. I followed up with Commissioner Shirley about about the relocation and he was he was excited about it. You think it's a good opportunity for Berlin, which I agree. I think, you know, having that much more public safety in our neighbor is a good thing. And, you know, I think over time we'll see that expand that office into more of what the other barracks look like. But for right now, there's a bigger capital improvement plan around the buildings that the state owns and lease base. And this was one of the many moves that's going on. But I think this is very positive for Berlin. It gets them out of falling down building in middle sex. I agree with you, John. It's a win-win, I think, for both of us. Anything else on this? Uh, Police Chief Recruitment Interview Schedule? Uh, so the Police Chief hiring committee is, uh, have scheduled three sessions of interviews with two interviewees each beginning September 22nd, continuing September 24th, and the last one will be September 29th. They really haven't discussed on additional interviews with candidates, second interviews with candidates, but that'll likely occur in early October. The plan is to get it vetted down to two or three candidates by October 15th. So that's, I think we're well on track of getting that done. The committee has been very active and, and, uh, and, uh, again, we're meeting, uh, we'll meet tomorrow with the first two candidates virtually to start those interviews. And, uh, Berlin Police Force training course? So, I met with, um, Sergeant Bessette, uh, last week, um, and sent around, uh, some communications and, um, this was one of the things that came up and we talked a lot about training and training plans, and you can see here he outlined it for all of us, but this is something that, uh, while not required, it's certainly a good, good training for, for this officer to go to being real. Um, I have a number of personnel related things that I'd like to bring up in executive session if we have one. Um, as the liaison to the police department, I listened to, you know, kind of what, what he had to say and what some of his, his offices are feeling, and I just want to make sure the whole board is aware of some of the personnel things that happened. Okay, um, the, um, stormwater treatment? You may recall that, uh, last meeting of the open bed, we were over punching, um, for the... Sorry. Do we need to make a motion to allow him to go to that training or... You can come out of it, I guess, session and do it. Oh. Okay. I just wasn't sure if we did it now or... I don't care why, I just wanted to be able to give him an answer. Yeah, right. If you're, if you're, I think you should do it now then. Yeah. There a, uh, motion to allow the, uh, officers to go to police training? Some move at a cost of $575, I believe it was. Second. Okay. Any further discussion on that? Uh, those in favor? Aye. Aye. Those opposed? Motion carries. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Uh, sit here here. The stormwater, uh, we opened bids and, um, we did not have enough grant money. The folks from, uh, Central Ontario Regional Planning Commission went back to the funders and, um, they believe they have got the funders to agree to, uh, to the difference in the grants amount versus the cost to do the project in 2021. I'm talking about, I'm talking about $12,000 extra that we needed. Um, uh, they, the Central Ontario Planning Commission does not have a definitive, uh, device contract yet. I saw it draft today. I believe it's going to occur. So, um, I, uh, in the near future, but I'm suggesting that we table this award bid until we have a definitive contract from Central Ontario Planning Commission stating that they have obtained the additional grant money. The grant that is now we have gotten, when does that go away? At the end of 2021. So we have to use it or we have to take it and accept it by 2021? We've already accepted the, uh, $51,000. Yeah, but not the $12,000 there. We have to use it by the end of 2021. Okay. And that's why we, that's why we bid it with two construction seasons, 2020 and 2021. Uh, emotion to table this to, when you want to take and have it, uh, you said emotion to table to, I think you're next meeting. I don't think we need to have a special meeting to do it. Okay. Because the work's not going to get done until 2021. But you're looking for the answer for the $12,000. I'm looking for the answer for the $12,000. We'll have it, we'll have it by the, I do. Okay. Move the table to town campus, storm water treatment, until we hear back on the additional $12,000 shortage. Second that. Any further discussion? Those in favor? All right. Those opposed, motion carries. Uh, draft transitional return to work program. So we've been talking about this for a couple of meetings now. Um, the, the, the town in, in, in either it's, uh, non-union, hourly employees, um, uh, handbook and the, uh, the union collective bargaining agreement have language, uh, that if somebody is injured at work, how do they, how do they come back to work? Uh, that's often times it's, on light duties to transition from, from being away, um, on full disability, the light duty to them. And so it's, we, I said this to you at the last meeting, you guys, um, wanted to take another, have a, have some time to look at it. I apologize for getting, I think I sent it to you Thursday or Friday. Um, so you didn't have a great, great amount of time. But these are the templates for this, came from the Vermont League of City and Towns. Um, so if, uh, you, you don't have to act today. Um, uh, but I, I do believe that, um, that both, this should be added to the non-unionized employee handbook. Um, and then as, uh, I know the, the collective bargaining agreement is coming due soon. And that, um, the discussion of, of this should be, uh, incorporated in that contract as well. Um, so, but I'm not a fan of, uh, taking the can down the road. So I don't want to show, have this shown on every agenda. Um, so, um, I make a motion to, uh, accept the transitional return to work program policy. And I second the motion. Any further discussion on this? So there's actually two documents here. There's the policy and then there's the agreement. So I would ask that you amend your, your motion to include some of the agreement as well. And I second that as amended. Any other discussion on this? All those in favor? Aye. Those opposed? Motion carries. Thank you. Local government expense reimbursement period. It's a funny one. So you may recall that, that, uh, Berlin was, uh, potentially eligible for 70, approximately $70,000 of reimbursable COVID expenses. Uh, they, the state, um, had a, had a grant application go out. We submitted the grant application in a timely manner. They were to make a decision by September 15th. Um, on the 14th of September, they said they weren't going to make a decision until the 18th. Uh, they haven't made a decision yet. Um, so, uh, I'm believing that it's going to occur. And John has volunteered at the last meeting, um, uh, to, to help vet projects. As you may recall, this money has to be spent by the end of 2020. So that there's not a lot of time here to do these things. Um, so, uh, uh, what I'm, we've, I've talked to fire, highway police and, the town staff here, we've got a laundry list of projects. I'm going to put those together and just send them to John and with some dollars and, um, and we're going to try to, try to prioritize some items. So, um, and, uh, this talks to some contractors about, about the possibility of doing some of this work. So, um, I'm sort of disappointed that they, they haven't come yet, but. So, I hope that once I, once I get a definitive thumbs up, thumbs down, I'll share with you all. We're hoping for the thumbs up. And, um, how much was each town allowed? It was based on your tax resolution. And so it varied for Lynn, it wasn't quite 70,000, but it's, you know, just child. Anything else on this? No, wish I had better news for you today. Okay. Thank you, Tom. Uh, Vermont. A B trans bridge project. So, uh, the bridge, a bridge on route 302 that crosses, um, uh, I forgot the name of that. It crosses the brook down there. That's by, um, uh, the campus, uh, the computer barn there and rubber bubbles that, that bridge. So they haven't, they haven't scheduled for, uh, uh, major repair. And they are asking if the select board would like to, to weigh in on the project. So, I invited them to come to this meeting and, and present. Um, and then the response I got back from, from, um, agency transportation was, they're not allowed to come to live meetings. And so they suggested a Zoom meeting with the select board. And so I don't know if that's necessarily practical either because, you know, I think you, if you do that, you do it outside of this meeting, because I don't think you can have a Zoom meeting with that. Um, um, but I, I can share with you the link to their, um, planning page is, I've got 30 different documents in there, what they're planning on doing to the, so you can review it. Um, and maybe after you've reviewed it, if you think that, that more, um, explanation is needed from VTRANS, you could, you could, um, call for a, a special meeting via Zoom. At one time, trying to think, at one time they came in and discussed the project with the select board. The, with that bridge, other than the, the sidewalks getting more rough and whatnot, the, the, um, the abutments were blocks. And the blocks had shifted. Now, are they going to repair that or are they going to take it, or did they say if they were going to repair or replace? I believe it's going to be repaired. I didn't dig into the weeds and all the 30 documents that were there. Um, but I believe it's going to be, because they've been talking to the Public Works Board as well because we have some, uh, sewer assets right there. And so, the Public Works Board has been involved in that as well. Okay. But I'll share the link. Yeah. And you, you all can look at it and let me know if you want to schedule a, a special Zoom meeting to have D-Trans present to you all on, on that. Well, I remember when they presented in here, they had quite a few, uh, pictures and a lot of paper. So, okay. Uh, let's see here. Let's try to think of something else about that. I can't remember. I don't believe that the, the steel underneath it was getting bad. I mean it was the above its themselves. Okay. Uh, Green Mountain Power, permission to place poles, wires, et cetera. I think that put this in your packet. Um, so, I've never seen one of these things. I don't know if it's, so they've got, they've asked, they're asking your permission to allow them to replace some poles and guide wires within, um, the town right away. This is usually we have a working in the right-of-way application. But I didn't know, just, this seemed like a pretty common document that Green Mountain Power uses. So, I know that the Select Board uses this document in lieu of you're working in the right-of-way document. So, I just got this here the other day, Thursday or Friday. Um, I always like to move pretty quickly on these things because construction season is ending and such. I am, I have no reason not to recommend allowing them to do it. I understand. I think where this is. Bartlett-Hell. What it looks like. Yes. So, it's coming, the pole would end at Bartlett-Hell and then it could come from the junction. From the junction, yeah. Yeah, from the junction toward Bartlett, yeah. So, that little house right there is, the doors. Didn't we just give a permit? First one on the left, heading up Bartlett-Hell. There has been one. We're going to get a permit for the work in the right-of-way, for a new driveway. Lucky. Lucky. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There are 2 forms for this application, retake permission to allow matter of power to place poles, wires, et cetera in the town right away for the purposes of upgrading new lines, right? Yeah. Any other discussion? Those in favor? Aye. Aye. Oh. No opposed? So I've never seen one of these things I've spoken to Ashley Andrews from Central Regional Planning Commission on it. It's a pretty standard form. I'm really not asking you for any activity on it tonight into a new motion. She said they still are trying to get the final detail worked out. But it looks like Erlin would be eligible for $13,900 of grant money, of which then the town would have to match or cash or any kind of about $3,500. And it's for working and fixing roads that you may recall the Regional Planning Commission did an inventory of all of our roads. And some roads have a higher capacity for erosion. And so it's part of their program to clean up the Lake Champlain basin. And that the monies, if you agree to this grant, the monies have to be used to correct those problems. I just got the inventory of those roads here about a week ago and I shared those with Tim and Tim and Ashley and I are going to meet and just put some sort of prioritization on which one of those are. And then if you guys go with this, we'll give you what we think the priority road should be to do the repairs. So that would be like wrapping the... Could be ditching and hydro-seeding. It takes all different forms. It could be actually crowning the road, bringing the crown higher so water comes off. So you don't have water running down the road and so you chase it into the ditches. It's just a combination of...it could be track dams in your ditches. So basically what you would be looking at are the steeper roads. Correct. And those ones that have a really direct discharge to some stream, some body water. You could have a steep road that dumps onto a meadow, but that's not as... Like we're on a hill road. Right down into the Yaw River. So I don't need action today, but I'm just letting you aware that this is coming down the pipe. I spoke to Ashley... She's a pride air today, I don't know. So I really think that they'll be done with their work for the next meeting. And I asked her if she would like to attend the meeting. And I'll ask you guys if you guys would like her to attend. She said she could be available to attend. There's a lot of requests for that, so I think she's pretty excited about that. The...when is the grant after you got it? I think it's...this is what I think, not what I know, I think it's 2014. So if you want to take an ever come next meeting. I can, yeah. Any other thoughts on this? Okay, approvals, like board minutes, August 17th, 2020, August 25th. I'm not seeing the 25th minutes here for some reason. Did I put them in? In that statement? They missed it. I think they're pretty short-winded on both pages. Are we always the regular ones where all the board members present at that meeting? No. Do we have it? It's like board members on the call. Right now. Other members support that. They just make that adjustment like we did last time. That's what I was wondering about the 25th. You want a copy of it? Um, you do have to approve it. I have a digital copy here. I think I said it in your pageant, yeah. You did electronically, yeah, I just didn't have a copy. I don't have it either. I do remember reading it at home in the packet that you sent us, but it's not here with what we have tonight. We'll wait for Tom to get up. A motion to approve the August 17th. I make a motion to approve the Monday, August 17th, 2020 minutes with just the update in terms of who was and was not present for that meeting. It says here what. Angelina was in here. Second. Yep. Any further discussion on this? Yeah. I'm here on vacation accrual. Which is page three. Pulling out impacted by the false changes to COVID or Bedowski, Isabelle and TJ Bedowski. Oh, TK. All right. So yeah, I think it's important that we say who's here. Yeah. The same on the 27th. Yeah. So on the 17th, on the 17th who was here? 17th on the 25th. Angelina was still out on vacation. Yeah. Anybody else was here? Yeah. Based on the discussion, I make the approval of the select board minutes for August 17th, 2020 with the change to Tom Bedowski's name on page three and also notation of who and who. No, I was just looking at it. Oh, so you don't want to see that change made? Okay. So we'll leave it with the other as we passed it then. Here. Second on that? Second. All those in favor? Aye. All right. We'll close with Terry's. One abstention. I make the motion to approve the select board minutes of August 25th, 2020. With the same change? With the same change. Is that your bet? I thought you were going to share it. Any further discussion on the minutes for, so I don't have to watch the work or what are the changes. Just to go with the pending? Yeah. Yeah. I made the motion to approve because I had read them from home. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Motion carries. One abstention. Executive session? Yes, we do. I'd like to see the financials before I vote on it. So we'll go into executive session. We have a motion. Do we want to do round table and stuff like that? We'll do that afterward. Is there a vote coming up on this after round table? Not what I'm dealing with. No, I don't think so. What's an update? Then we can do round table. Justin? So I'd like, the fire department has an urgent committee. I don't know if I brought that up. So there, there. We'll get that. There you go. A couple of people from the fire department. Jerry D and Matisse and they're looking at the pros and cons of being potentially a volunteer municipal fire department. And so I think that the board should have some discussion at some point about that, what it would want to put it on the, get a sense of what the community feels, if they care at all, what they get, you know, if they need that to some level. Justin, who's on the merger committee? That's myself. Keith, Nick Rabachek. Those are fire department people. Both of them. Nate. Keith. Ryan Barr. Who's a relative of my work from the other time. I'm not an able to be a year older than my son, so he's a younger guy. And Jerry D Matisse. And so we're just, that's just, we're developing the pros and the cons because they're a separate corporation, they're not a municipal corporation, they're a municipality, municipal organization. Ultimately it has to go to the corporate, like there's two different boards there, so they'd have to probably own on it because they have a set of bottle houses. I think there's a lot to it, but I believe it might be, it's worth we should look at it and see if it's something that we want to look at, but see if it makes sense for us. Well, there's going to be some cost savings there. I would imagine so. I would imagine it would, I feel like a lot of things are siloed right now. Very much so. It's hard to, you know, communication. I don't know, I don't know what they'll think. You know what they'll come up with over there, but I wouldn't want, if we didn't, I mean, I don't mind having a conversation about it, but I wouldn't want to be on the pros and cons with municipal standpoint, so it's a lot of, you know, that one over there. I just didn't know if we should maybe put it, I don't know if it would come to a, I don't know if you can have it as a non-action item at town meeting somewhere. Well, I mean, it wouldn't hurt to take, have the discussion at town meeting. How soon were they thinking this could possibly, Their goal is to have this pros and cons and their determination whether or not it would be beneficial and time for us to put it in the town report for this coming town meeting. That one would be quick. That's the plan is to have it ready for this town meeting. Okay. Now they said, when you say it's ready for this town meeting, do you need to take and be absorbed by the town or just a discussion about it? We don't know if they're going to want to be absorbed by the town at this point. They don't know if, I mean, not absorbed, but partner with the town. So we don't know if partnering with the town is what they're going to want to do, if they're going to deem that it's better for the department or worse for the department, but what I've gotten from the fire department is commitment regardless of the results to give us, let us know what their thoughts are so that we can publish it in the town report. Okay. So, I mean, I think it's something. You've got to keep on the radar and the other one. Anything else around here? I don't know if this time I had something else, but I kind of made it up to you. No. Hello? No, thank you. John? I'm just wondering if anyone has an update on whether or not we've watered Black Road. You started today. Oh, did we? Okay. Okay. Good. That was your own question I had tonight. Yep. Let's see here. I have nothing, so a motion to enter into executive section. So moved. For legal or personnel? Legal. First of all, I have a contract. Ooh. Try factor. My second motion. All those in favor? Aye. Those in favor? Aye. Those in favor? Aye. Those in favor? Aye. Aye.