 So he went and got the tape, listened to it and he called me and was like, Hey, I'm doing down south hustlers, you know, y'all want to get down? I was like, yeah. And so that's how I started. Like I was living with my dad at the time. Cause when he called, he called and he asked for Courtney. I didn't recognize the voice. So I was like, he ain't here. He wasn't one of my homeboys, you know? And so then he said, well, tell him P call. I was like, no, no, that was me. I was like, no, no, no, that's me. I'm here. And he was like, nigga, you dodging somebody or something? Yeah, we on boss talk. That's what it was too, man. Like even during my hustle days, I was never really a born to lose ass. Nigga, like I always still kind of had, I knew it was something more for me. Yeah. I didn't know exactly what, but I did have the dream of music. And see, I signed with P. I got with no limit in 95. Yeah. So I graduated high school in 94. Whoa. You know what I mean? That was when I was 18. Yeah, I was 18. Five. What song? What rap? What, what was P? Oh, what was he doing? No, that was right. That was I signed with P right with 99 Ways of Die came out in TRU. The first true record. And right before Ice Cream Man. That Ice Cream Man was crazy too. What did he see in you? Why he wanted to sign you? Initially, what it was, I sent him a tape, you know, and I sent him a bunch of tapes. Actually, this is when he was still in the Bay Area. You know what I mean? I was rapping with my partner, Cisco. We had a group called CCG and we just didn't want to be local no more. You know what I mean? And so I sent the tape and I was just persistent. You know, I called his voicemail back then. He had a voicemail. I would fill that bitch up. So nobody else could leave voicemails. Every day I made it my business to just call back to back to back to back to back. And finally, I got on his nerves and he figured if I was calling like that, then I meant what I was saying. So he went and got the tape, listened to it and he called me and was like, hey, I'm doing down south hustlers, you know, y'all want to get down? I was like, yeah. And so that's how I started like I was living with my dad at the time because when he called, he called and he asked for Courtney. I didn't recognize the voice. So I was like, he ain't here. He wasn't one of my homeboys, you know. And so then he said, well, tell him P call. I was like, no, no, no, no, it's me. I was like, no, no, no, that's me. I'm here and he was like, nigga, you dodging somebody or something. And I was like, nah, it's like my dad named Courtney. And so it went from there. So OK, yeah, you and and so that was his initial intention was to get you on down south hustlers. Right. Now it was two of those, right? It was two different ones. It was it was a double disc. Double disc. That's what it was double disc. OK, and you was on that thing. And that was your first time meeting P. That was my first time being in a real recording studio. That was my first time being to the Bay Area. That was my first time being on the national record. OK, that was my first time on or a lot of shit. Well, well, who was in there when you recorded? Well, because because I talk, I call. I'm going to tell you what I did. I called my boy, shout out KLC. I called him last night. I said KLC, I said this nigga court coming, man. Tell me about he's amazing. Good dude, man. Yeah. I said, he said he I'm coming up there. He probably he said they doing something in Bodger City. Yeah, yeah, we got that Saturday. Yeah, I'm going from here to there. Yeah, he told me he said he coming up here. He going to come see me Sunday. Ain't that what he told us? So you better come in. If you don't, I think I'm coming in that bad room. So let me tell you about KLC. So when when P flew us out to Oakland, he had an apartment where everybody stayed in Hayward. OK. And it was when I met Beach by the pound. I met KLC, Moby Dick. It was Mia, Servon, all of them were in apartment. And KLC used to be so hard on me. We end up going out there to do the Down South Hustlers. We did the song R.I.P. So a lot of people just putting together 20 some years ago that that's me on the inside of the cover on the CCG cover. But so we end up recording the album out there as well. It was the first time we got to meet K.L.U. You know, we got beats from our knees as the folks that was doing shit for too short. You know, we we thought we made it. You know, it's up and it banks and all. Yeah, man, this nigga KLC used to like, like I felt like he used to make me stay after class. Like, you know, I'm saying he would just stand. I would be in there doing my verse and he would stand in the window and just look at me. Do it again, bro. Do it again, bro. And he would just stare at me while I'd be and I'd be like, read my shit. Like, I don't think it's standing me like. The KLC was so hard on me back then. Do you appreciate it now? I did, of course. He was trying to make me better. He was trying to pull, you know, the best out of me. Yeah, for sure. I like it, man. You know, I heard so we told so many stories when he was on here, man. Yeah, I started to repost now because I didn't have no no subscribers hardly. I was like now at that time. I was like, man, I'm going to put this boy back up. So I'm going to start back going through it. Plus, you got to come back. But anyway, we talk all the time. But it's just the fact of how people, you know, when you get to California, you in there, you do the down south. What was what sticks out in those in that time period? Just not other than KLC, what sticks out being in the studio for the first time or on people you really didn't know? Um, I'll be honest with you, man, it was just the whole experience. I mean, you have to think, you know, we're kids. I think I would just turn 18. You know, we had never been to the Bay Area. You know, P was like a no limit. You know, we didn't know the difference between a no limit and a major, you know, we thought we arrived, you know, now, there was a little bit of internal, um, confusion, just, I would say with me and my not me and my partner, but, you know, the manager we had at the time, he didn't really know what he was doing, but he knew more than us, you know what I'm saying? He was older than us. And, and it kind of, it was a strange little dichotomy because, you know, me and P had such a, we had developed and cultivated a close relationship. My partner and P, they hadn't met. They hadn't talked until we actually got out to California. They was meeting for the first time. So imagine me and P are talking for months before we go out there. You're the leader. So by the time we get there, you might not even know each other. You might not even be the leader, but in his eyes, you are the leader. For sure. For sure. I was the spokesperson, but it was just the vibe. Me and P are kind of cut from the same cloth. Yeah. That's why we've been friends for so long. Yeah. But him and my partner, they really didn't mesh.