 Live from Boston, Massachusetts, it's theCUBE, covering OpenStack 7 2017. Brought to you by the OpenStack Foundation, Red Hat and additional ecosystem support. Hi, and we're in the day one wrap. I'm Stu Miniman joined by my co-host for the week, John Troyer. John, we got to really dig in with a whole bunch of the companies that helped build OpenStack, and we ended up going into a lot of detail on the survey. I want to get your take, but first, we got some data that we didn't get at the intro, is just how many people are here this year. The preliminary numbers, our overall registration was over 5,000, which is about what it was at Barcelona, definitely a little bit less than we had at Austin, but there's over 1,000 companies represented. 41% of the people here are first time attendees, which is always a good show of the health of the community, 152 press and analysts. There's a lot of other things going on this week. I know we've got somebody shows we talked about at the open here, and 70% is US, Canada, or Mexico. Feels a little bit more, a very international crowd. Got to walk through the show for a little, talked to a number of people here. Definitely a global community here, but John, start with, it's your first day at OpenStack Summit, first time we've had you do like a full day of theCUBE too, so what's your take so far? Yeah, first OpenStack Summit, I was not sure what to expect. From the outside, the OpenStack story has been a little bit noisy, it's been a little bit up and down. I found this, the audience here would be very engaged. Certainly our guests were very engaged, but even walking down the hall, everyone was in conversation at lunch, I saw technical conversations going on. These are not just a bunch of vendors meeting in a giant vendor circle. This is, these are actual people who are implementing clouds, and so I ran into a few anecdotally, so I see it happening. So it was nice, a lot of energy, a lot of OpenStack t-shirts. So it seemed, I was pleasantly surprised by the amount of activity and energy here. Yeah, I haven't had a chance to check out the hashtag we are OpenStack, but right, everybody's coming in, wearing their old OpenStack gear. I have my Vancouver jacket. I've got my Atlanta t-shirt packed away somewhere. It's a good community. I've been to industry trade shows on their dying cycle. The storage world and the networking world shows that it had been around for decades, and you feel you walk around, and there's like, oh, well maybe you get some good speakers, but the attendants aren't really excited. These are geeks, these are our peeps. You know here, John, these are the people we like to see, they're engaged, they like what they're doing, they're digging into the technical sessions, they're learning new stuff. I want to talk to some more people. I remember the last couple of years, just like the container sessions would have people sitting on the floors and out the door. I'm not sure yet what the hot buzz is this year, but yeah, it definitely, people packed into the keynotes, they're streaming out of all the sessions behind us all day. But I will say this is a culture that's not super aggressive in a marketing way. If you go to some vendors' shows, right, it's very aggressive, very vision-setting, very chest-thumping. Today in the keynote, they started off with 15 minutes of self-examination. We may not have been telling the OpenStack story correctly. We may have had internal dissension. We had a working group, and we thought we were doing these things wrong. And that is very unusual in a lot of conferences to kind of set that up. Now, it can come across as defensive if you're coming from a position that OpenStack is irrelevant. It can come across as, again, just kind of internal focused. But I thought it was a real, it was really nice and a realistic way of looking at, hey, wait a minute, what seems obvious to the outside is maybe that OpenStack story has not been told correctly. But internally, we see that it's real. And so how does that translate into an external story and a way of going forward that's a little more productive? Yeah, I mean, John, one of the questions coming in is, is anybody making money on this? No better way to start off than, we started with Jim Lighthurst. He said, OpenStack is a material piece of his business. Talked about some really big deals if you go back and watch there. Mark Shuddleworth, yes, absolutely said they did over $100 million worth of bookings and OpenStack is an important piece of what he's doing. So it's a shift as to who's making money. Jim Lighthurst said, these are the Linux companies that are going to do really well here. Number of software players here. And of course, the infrastructure guys, it's another thing that can sit on top of their gear. Applications are what drive the infrastructure. Some modernization of the infrastructure here is what we're talking about. So I asked at the beginning jokingly, are we sitting on the deck of the Titanic? It sure doesn't feel that way. It feels like we've got a nice cruise going. There's a good party of people here that are enjoying what they're doing, geeking out, helping to build it, helping to build on top of it. I think an important part of that is the containerization and app framework story. Previous cloud conversations in previous years, we had a tendency to make them into all or nothing. Is OpenStack going to win everything? I think the conversation here is recognized and that OpenStack is good at infrastructure. And is OpenStack is good at infrastructure in certain contexts. The rest of the story comes from an application layer. And that could be something like Kubernetes. If you looked at the user survey with great user survey, talking about all sorts of different deployments, all sorts of different things running on top of OpenStack, certainly things like Kubernetes and OpenShift were mentioned highly, containerization in general. And I think the people that we talk to seem very comfortable with that. Okay, the containerization piece is the piece that handles the deployment and the application owner. That has to work closely in conjunction with the infrastructure, which is the OpenStack piece. Yeah, absolutely right. Another question was, is the Kubernetes day going to overtake the whole show? Cloud Foundry, I think they said it's a whole another section of the building next to this, that they're doing all of those open source days. And we'll see how all of them mesh. OpenStack's been misunderstood since day one. I think we've got a good opportunity to reset things. Anything surprise you today so far, John? The openness around the container conversation did surprise me. And the willingness to talk about real deployments, right? I think those are two things that I wasn't sure I was going to see. Yeah, good community, a lot of good guests, smart people at the show, but you don't necessarily need to have 50 of those PhDs to run this. I think one of the things you noted in one of the interviews is, I think it was the Massachusetts cloud that's involved with some of the universities. We're going to have them on Wednesday. They've got three operators that run it. Now, I want to know how many people help them stand everything up, where their professional service is. Some of those pieces, really looking forward to, by the time we get to Wednesday, we've got a number of the users on. Everyone from Verizon who was up on the keynote stage to some various size companies. So, any closing remarks for us for today, John? I think I'm looking forward to the next couple of days. I do want to do a temperature check on the sessions and see how they're doing, and I think follow the money is a good idea. I am unclear in this new world of open source, it is hard to pin a specific dollar amount to a specific bucket, so I think that is an interesting conversation to still have. They've got super users, and do they need some special evangelist group for OpenStack, or is the we are OpenStack enough that you've got a huge community here? Well, they've got the OpenStack Ambassador program, too, going on. So, definitely the community outreach is there. Yeah, absolutely. All right, well, John, really appreciate you coming on for today. We've got two more days of coverage, wall to wall coverage here. Also, check out SiliconANGLE.tv. We've got two other shows going on right now. John Furrier and a large crew are at Dell EMC World. Dave Vellante and Jeff Frick will be kicking off from Orlando, Florida tomorrow for Stu Miniman and John Troyer, signing off on day one of three days of OpenStack Summit 2017 here in downtown Boston. You're watching theCUBE.