 My message to young people about ASM is that it's not just about what they see on the media, that all the negative things about ASM, there are a lot of good and positive things about ASM. I have learnt a little from this forum even though I've not had the opportunity to visit the site with them because I had a lot doing but I learnt a lot from the small-scale miners that it really contributed a lot to societal development. In fact, the communities have built clinics, health clinics, they've built even police stations, they've renovated a lot of structures and I believe this is positive contribution to society. So I believe it's not just about a bad aspect that the media keeps on portraying about small-scale mining. Even from a mining school, there are a lot of people who still have this negative mind about small-scale mining and therefore sometimes graduates questions themselves about being employed in small-scale mining as to being employed in bigger mines and I believe that this is the opportunity I have to tell the young ones, people of my age, those who are still in school, those who are hoping to get employment after school that this is another sector you can contribute your quota to its development, not just enhancing yourself but enhancing the development of the sector positively.