 Okay, saving Mr. Banks. This movie will go back and forth with two different stories simultaneously, but that's kind of symbolic of what's on the surface and then what's underneath because whenever there's control or hurt or pain, there's a belief system underneath and there's really hurt underneath. So anytime there's anger or anything that gets expressed on the surface, it's really because of what's underneath it. But I think for this one, it's really, it's a real good forgiveness movie and it reminds me a little bit of, you know, Jesus is teaching if somebody smites you on one cheek, turn the other cheek or if someone asks for your coat, offer your cloak as well. And Walt Disney is quite famous, you know, because of all of Disney productions. We're still going and seeing all these great Disney movies that his company started making with animations years ago, but I guess even recently with like Maleficent and there's just so many great movies. These in our collection like The Kid with Bruce Willis and so forth, we get to see a little slice of Walt Disney's life out there in California and Emma Thompson plays the woman who invented and wrote the Mary Poppins character. And so the basic gist of it is that Walt Disney read some of the story of Mary Poppins to his daughters and his daughter loved it so much that she really wanted it made into a movie and that's what Walt does, he makes movies. So he made a promise to her. So now he will face a series of forgiveness lessons coming from this promise to his daughter when he encounters the writer coming across the ocean and it's just a tremendous forgiveness movie all the way to the very end, you know, where Walt has to meet her many seeming behaviors that, you know, we would say are called for love. But generally he does a pretty good job for the head of a company, you know, considering we're working with The Courses and Miracles and devoting our life to it, but Walt is a really, I think he's a good role model. So when you're tempted to think this is unworkable, this is completely unmanageable, just think of Walt. John Hanks plays Walt Disney and Emma Thompson plays the woman who invented Mary Poppins. Okay, ready to roll it. Okay, go ahead and pause this recording now and enjoy the movie, Saving Mr. Banks. And then you can push Plague in on this recording and it will continue with the after-talk by David. Well, back in Australia, in that part of the film, he was talking to his daughter about the world being an illusion and kind of beware of money that will come and bite you in your bum or something like that. And so she, like everyone who comes in this world, has a mistrust of the world and she has a love for her father and so really that part of the movie, the Australian part of the movie is really acting out of that belief in loss that you could lose the ones that you love. Like Jesus says, you have a lot of crazy beliefs, but perhaps the most crazy of all your beliefs is that you can lose the ones that you love. So it's kind of nice how it goes back and forth, back and forth between these memories that Walt Disney talks about, his own memories at the end of the movie, in the snow delivering papers and newspapers and his thoughts and memories. But he really recognizes at the end that it's all about forgiveness and encourages her to let go of those memories and those stories. And that's also spoken about at the very end that it's whatever is to come is what's already come before, just retold again and again, but it's beautiful how the spirit pours through him and saying that its storytellers, what they're to do is they're to inspire hope and really to inspire another way of looking at the world. So he was using our language there at the end, really explaining to her that that's what the only purpose of storytelling is. It maybe can't set things right, but it can in imagination and so you might say it's the spirits, the Holy Spirit's use of imagination that brings inspiration, that brings the blessing, that brings a new purpose, a new way of looking at the world. And so in the end it seems like he had to go back all the way across the ocean to open his heart and tell her what it was all about for him. And then he really understood at that point that it was about saving Mr. Banks, that Mary Poppins was called in for that, it wasn't as he and other guys thought originally for the children, Mary Poppins for the children, but it was actually to try to save Mr. Banks. And so the bitterness, I would say under the sarcasm and under the control and under the anger is the hurt, that deep, deep, deep sense of hurt, that sense of loss, like losing your father kind of loss, which is really what this whole awakening process is about is this belief that you've lost the one that you love, the one that created you, and that there's no way back, like it's that what was seemingly done can never be repaired. And so all these countless opportunities that we have that were given over and over that Walt Disney was given, that all the songwriter, the lyricist, the one that the choreographer, everyone, the secretaries, everyone was drawn into this experience of choose again, of see it anew. And it doesn't matter whether it's in your personal history or whether it seems to be in the history of another, it's the same call. And when it's recognized, there's just this, like the driver persisting and really feeling that love for her and feeling the gratitude. And he was a beautiful symbol all the way through at the very end where she actually, when she came to the, you know, she saw him at the airport to take her to the premiere. She actually ran up to him and hugged him and he was like, oh, it was really a reflection of that deep healing. So yeah, I'd like to open it up to everyone to show your insights on that because I think it's one of those movies where, you know, the punchline is forgiveness as it always must be and it's always facing those memories of, in this case, hurt and loss that have been pushed so out of awareness. But she, even when she had very, very bad days, she was like, it's like her unconscious coming up to bite her. And that's the way it goes for everyone on the planet when you have those dark memories that haven't been allowed to come to the surface and haven't been, the wound has not been exposed then the character has just acted out over and over and over again. And there is a bitterness, you know, until the error is exposed and seen as impossible then the bitterness just persists until that moment when it's just seemed like this is not the truth. I thought it was very, also very symbolic at the end where she's crying at the movie, the very movie that she was kind of holding the card to the rights, you know, to, as Walt said, you know, you wanted me to, you know, to disappoint you or, and I didn't because that's, because that's what you wanted. So it was all, even there bringing it back to the power of the mind and the power of wanting. Whereas Jesus says in the Course, no one can convince you, no amount of evidence can convince you of what you do not want. That the mind is that powerful and if you decide you're unworthy then you'll see plenty of evidence for that unworthiness and only when you have a change of heart about yourself and about God then did you see a forgiven world. I loved it when she said enough. Yeah, enough. Like she was out there in the light like an inspiration just faced with those mirrors every day and that had a tremendous dissolving effect, you know, subconsciously probably but still the resistance was there and she left but when she said enough it was like she decided to see it differently. Yeah. And everything switched. That's when she signed. Handed it over. She said it's enough. She handed it over. She was tired of it. And there was Mickey right across that big, you know, so the first time we see Mickey she's shocked that he's in the bed and she puts him face against the wall like you bad mouth, bad boy, bad mouth face against the wall and then eventually she comes around and has tea with him and he escorts her into the movie. Yeah. There's all the Mickey Mouse symbols. The animation. Yeah. And even Walt Disney talking about how, you know, somebody wanted to take the sound like buy out his mouse and he said, he's family, you know, he couldn't ever turn him away. He was family. So in one sense that was good in this movie that the mouse character, Pete Mouse, was there all along through the very end, even enough. He was there to be right across from her when she reached enough. She surrendered and then the fruits. Yeah. Enough hurt, enough meanness, enough control, enough with those memories. I'm remembering it that way. Yeah. Enough with remembering it that way. And one tweak in the mind just opens it up, you know, to the movie being made and, you know, as Walt Disney said the children can be, you know, inspired and all over the world. Yeah. A little tweak in the mind. Turn. Yeah. And the assignment was 20 years being offered for her to break through this. I left the line when he said, you don't even know what you want me to do to make you happy or, you know, to make you feel that way. You don't even know. Yeah. Yeah, it could apply to anything. We've been talking lately about, with a book getting written in May, published and then the book launch. I've been using the 50-yard line analogy. So after 20 years, year after year of asking her to sign the rights, she finally does. The candy, the fruit, the pears and everything and all the stuffed animals and everything and really the happiness of everyone, including Walt Disney thinking, well, the hard part's over and now I've got my movie made. I've got my great writers and all the collaborations and he was quite confident. But it's like with our book launch, it's to get the book printed 20 years. Actually, that's exactly how long. And so we're getting, from the Holy Spirit and Jesus, this movie to say, now if you launch to be easier, the premier, they go easier than that. But really, it's very much like that. It was 20 years in the making and many gatherings and storing cassette tapes in hot attics and carry them from house to house to house to house and then editing all the carry and Jeffrey and Jason went through with these kind of wobbly tapes to try to make the audios and then the transcribing and on and on and on. Literally, yeah, it was 20 years of hanging in there. And now we're just to the point where we're kind of reached the top of the mountain. Now it's time to go down the other side. But in this movie, it just showed that the persistence, the dedication, the devotion, to keep a promise. And really, in one sense, that's why we've all showed up, to keep a promise for Jesus. This is not about just a few words going on in a book. It's the same with all the things that the Bible went through to even get published. And the course itself, and then now with this book, to give people a straight pathway that makes it very difficult to twist and distort the words. Even though the words are made by the ego and the ego can distort anything in form, it's just a great inspired use of words to make the path straight. And so we have the teachings, the metaphors, the examples, and then even with modern-day month coming, some of these characters trying to go up that summit, trying to climb out at Everest or something without freezing to death, but to make it to the top. So yeah, it feels good. It feels like that's a big part of it. Just like with Strawberry, it takes a huge synergy to put that on, and yet it's magical when it happens. It's very miraculous. We're going for miraculous. Because, like, this movie, just for me, is so powerful because it's very close to the actual experience I had growing up, and I thought you had to be Mary Poppins to come in and keep straight. And I don't believe that anymore. It's just the playfulness, the evolved magazine, the way it came in. That's all I want, that's all that I'm offering now. You've got a few ducks lined up in a row, and now we're to be playing and allow all the miracles to come in just to do only that, like touch things in a miraculous way just to allow them. That's my call. Yeah, it's like the higher interpretation of Mary Poppins. From the kind of staunch and stern and everything to Julie Andrews. What a wonderful actress, what a wonderful symbol to play Mary Poppins that all of the children could relate to. And who played the father. Yeah, and Dick Van Dyke, playing Burke. Yeah, just amazing how it all came in. And the songwriters and the songs that people still remember. I remember seeing this film when I was a little boy and I think we went for one of my birthday parties and coming home with all the songs remembering let's go fly a kite and a musical, something we could all sing along with and remember. And yeah, it's a beautiful inspiration. That's what it's all about. And that's what I'm getting. Sarah was talking and Suzanne about, possibly a book tour on the east coast right around in September when the book is launched. Jason called in today, Lisa called in this morning. They've had all these holy encounters at bookstores. Some of the bookstores where the woman would say something like what are you here for and what are you doing? And then Lisa just felt the spirit move through her and talked in very simple terms of what it is for her and how it just melted and it would go to some bookstores they would say well we really don't buy books but well since you're here let's take one of those books and can you leave it on consignment and let it out with these holy encounters that are happening. But we talked about that this morning that it's just like these are just the props, the backdrops, the props for it. So just getting into the swirl of all these holy encounters out there, just shining the light, sharing that love, sharing that joy and in one sense it's like a calling card or a context but the focus is never on the context. It's really on the joy at the moment. And so just like the props and the symbols of a stage are not really about the core of what the story is about. It's not really about the purpose but they're being used in a maximal way. So I feel like that's part of it too. It takes it out of the mundane like daily life and do this, do that, and to just feeling called into a higher purpose. And you know, we used to say that when I took my first trip to the south, southeast and the car was taken away and I would tell the parable how the car left and came back and I would tell people on the west coast of Florida if Jesus had asked to borrow the car for a few days, would you have given it to him? People would be like, yes. And if it was just used as part of the parable that all things work together for good, that everything is taken care of, we need to agree to such a thing. Oh, yes. So really that's really what's happening here. There's nothing happening like that we can point to in form that's meaningful in and of itself but then you start to realize nothing exists in and of itself. It's all your mind and it's all for sharing the love and the joy and then these are all the props that have been so graciously given. We've fallen in our laps and we can simply carry forward with what's happened. We've got our script, so to speak, our book. Happy dream. I find myself down the hall and I have a film team and they're editing in different rooms and they're getting music and people are composing things and I can't imagine. It's small. It's just beautiful. I'm so grateful and the joining, just the connection with hearing, what about this, can I have this, and my function is to keep asking, asking, asking from a character that never asked, ask, ask, ask, and coming into rooms and not even having to ask and I don't think it's just appearing. So, so grateful. So grateful to get this feeling like getting to be a child who's leaving. That's what it feels like. So grateful. Yeah. Yep, it just keeps, the beat goes on and on and Suzanne mentioned something about something tour on the East Coast and then ding, my inbox rang. It was airfare sale for the fall. Oh, for the fall. So I got on there and started looking around and yeah, flights to New York, Philadelphia, looking for sale in Salt Lake City. It was like a minute conversation for that entire thing to drop. One minute in the East Coast tour that you would fly into. One minute. We were talking, Christian and I were talking about the impact of Teacher of Teachers. We were talking about the inroad and the hours and hours and hours and days and days, months of listening and reading all of that content. And then just to be invited into this, just feel so really, so grateful just to be a part of it in any way. It's not coming from trying to sell a book. Oh my gosh, this book completely changed the direction of my life. So it speaks, you know. It's not that, but it's, those are the symbols. So like the gratitude to just, and the fun of it, you know, just to be able to to be part of this world. Yeah. It's been fun too, because when I've just been sending out for the past couple weeks some PDF, free PDFs of the book but also to just people that come to mind. And a lot of people have come to mind. Many, many, many, many emails including, for example, the Luckets. I always talk about the Luckets, because they're in their mid-80s. They were the Course in Miracles pioneers. It took the book all over the world. Like Johnny Appleseeding all over the world with their joy and their love. And so they were like, great, send us. We always would be happy to receive them and send them a PDF. And I said, if you'd like a hard copy, oh yes, yes, we would. We would rather have a hard copy, you know, to have in this and this. And then they started in with, have you, have you sent this to Judy Scutch? Have you sent this to Carol Howe? Have you sent this to Mary Williamson? Have you sent this to the Course in Miracles Rabbi, Benny Silverman? They started just putting all these names in there, typing them out, and Jerry, and Diane, and so on and so forth. So, yeah, they're 85s, the Course pioneers, they kept me busy. Just when I'd sent out all these emails, the elderly beamers come in like, well, what about this? What about this? What about this? So it's, you know, it's just, it's all just symbols spurring the mind on and to extend, extend, extend. At 85, extend, extend, extend. You know, it's the same thing. The ministry is shifting too. We've done a lot of mind training, and everyone, you know, we feel the benefit of coming together and the synergy of coming together, but, but yeah, I think for me it was that synergy was going, seemingly traveling and going out and going out and extending and facing all kinds of different situations and seeming obstacles and things, but just being, you know, letting the spirit be the wind under the wings to just carry it along so that it became very easy and very relaxing and, and yeah, just fun, like I wasn't doing anything, it was just beholding all the miracles. So I would wish that for everyone that's, this is another context for that. A website that's been around for years and years and now it's in a book form and suddenly it's brand new, you know, people writing into me, one woman from Wisconsin today with chronic illness and pleading and she spent $250,000 she said over all these years trying to come to some relief and you know, please I'm calling on you I'm calling on the Holy Spirit I'm calling on Jesus and here's a YouTube clip of a live stream from last night and here's a free PDF this is what the healing is all about she's right there, I'm watching right now even as I'm watching the video stream, you know, things just keep coming, the symbols just keep coming and coming and coming gentle reminders like you know, it's a call to rejoice and the symbols just keep rolling and rolling and coming and coming and coming so it was fun today then a man writing from who resigned his job today and who kind of is with send and asking for help and prayers I said we'll put you in our prayers and here's a PDF and here's this speaker and some YouTubes and da da da da da just like there you go I said when you resign then you resign your job then you can make good use of time because there's lots that you can pour your energy and you focus into and so he wrote back very thank you for holding your prayers thank you for telling me about these things, you know he was just laying in bed just praying and then the email came in and he said oh this is the perfect answer to my prayers so it just goes on and on you decided the book is the answer to all the prayers right now, the symbolic answer and when Suzanne and Christian and I were in the room I was holding the book and I said it's the slipstream we're just, this is our focus it's our slipstream, we're all just going to slip into the stream of this book for this portal and all other things will be added onto that and we're just getting the slipstream yeah like a water slide just slide on down to the ocean and then just like with Helen and Bill you know they had a pretty hectic life there at Columbia Presbytery Medical Center and so they cried out, Bill cried out there must be a better way and surprisingly even Helen just surprised herself by saying you're right Bill and I'll help you find it and that's where this movie tonight came in because Christian and Suzanne were talking interestingly about Pam and I watched the movie and I it was it was Walt who kept delivering it Pam Pam, Pam I lost count for how many times at the beginning of the movie it was don't call me by my name and they're all out there on a first name basis and here comes the spirits swirling in there that definitely caught my attention for the first time and I've seen this movie a couple times and I was like oh because this was all about healing and collaboration that was the inspiration for watching the movie we had back in my room and now I was like whoa it was beautiful it was beautiful that was beautiful it's perfect too it's just the perfect support for what we were talking about because we had a call it was beautiful it's really do only that as long as our minds are clear and inspired it's like joining that and if there's anything that needs to be raised that's great but it's fairly quick but we didn't even have any conversation that had been brewing over the last few days it went totally into sharing about what the context was here and so it was really nice just right back into the line one yeah in the depth of it you could just feel it was Walt Disney wanting to have happy children everywhere that was underneath his visions and his he wasn't there to make a lot of money and to build an empire he was really driven from the inside to bring happiness and it's interesting that there's actually a line in the course where Jesus says to heal is to make happy to heal is to make happy and that passion for that happiness was amazing and even like reminded us from the Lego movie that Unikitty starts off kind of as a character that she's so trying so hard to be positive and then underneath of Unikitty is the darkness that's coming up and yet in the end Michael she saves she saves Emma she saves the whole world with her expressions and really that was I like that in the movie where Pam was crying Pamela was crying and that was to me it was really first it started with enough that was the turning point and then with the crying and then saying it's the cartoons still a last attempt but Walt knew he wasn't buying it she cracked open and isn't it great that it's like when you have a hurt and you allow yourself to feel the hurt and you even cry that even that's part of a catharsis it's not like the ego paints it as a sign of weakness but it's actually a necessity when you crack open and the tears come so naturally they're healing tears and I could feel that at the end of the movie that those were her healing tears she couldn't hold back she had that mask on really tight and really firm all the way through and she didn't give a hint of it but in the end she just cracked open and healed what was her father her father only wanted to be with the kids he was always like even on stage he was talking to the kids about using your imagination he said he would leave work drunk to go play with the children it was his passion and then it took like a very like a substitute father figure who was so passionate about spreading joy and holding that as the most important thing to help her break out of her her shell that she had on after her father died yeah yeah he was really a bit like Unikitty trying his best to be positive and then except when the pain was so intense that you know when he kind of snapped about Snot Yates it was a kind of a quirk because he was in such extreme pain and then she's but she still she rewrote the poem and she went out looking all over the house to find the whiskey and then he said pairs, pairs and she went out to get the pairs she wanted to do everything she could because she loved her father and then the disappointment it's like the disappointment in this world like oh I do all that I have all this love I do absolutely everything I can and he dies or he's taken away even though she did remember that memory of him saying never I would never leave you that was a beautiful bright memory that she allowed back into awareness I'll never leave you it was Jesus I will never leave you I'm with you always even to the end of time I will not leave you comfortless all the very things that Jesus taught that loss is not real that death is not real that there's no break in connection in harmony so it was great it was really beautifully acted out and she was holding onto a memory she wanted the memory to stay was what she needed to let go of the past to share the joy she was holding very tight even hopping onto the plane saying we should just crash I feel like something huge happened here for me just really quickly like for her like it seems like she lost her childhood in a way and she became this really stiff very controlling thing and in the end like all of it was restored like it was just made clean like her all the memories were like clean in the end I feel like when I came in here and the movie started I had a really kind of weird feeling I don't know I can't really say why almost like a premonition like oh something is going to happen and then something did happen the scene where he climbs on the horse and he has her sit down on the horse with him and he says do you trust me a memory from my childhood came in that I like it just has been I would say it's not a bad memory but it's for me it's the worst memory I have and it's clean now it's like it was totally re-translated just trust it was just the whole memory scene from my childhood was just trust nothing happened at all it's done yeah it's done I feel like my yeah like childhood restored childhood innocence completely restored that he said that because for me this the scene of the songs was some of the happiest times of my childhood that I can remember every family yelling at me and my cousin we would bang on the piano we didn't know how to play it but we would just let's go as loud as we could super califragilist and chim chim chim chim chim raised right on Southern California in Walt's backyard and there it is it was so fun so fun to see those songs it was so fun to see where it was from around we would just go through the whole musical every time we would get together and meet my cousin yeah it seems like for a lot of our childhood movies there were these kind of endings that were so euphoric the music, Dick Van Dyke they took me to for my birthday to see Chitty Chitty Bang Bang they let me pick out who I wanted to take and my friends and then by the end of the movie we all were like and the up goes the car Chitty Chitty Bang Bang Chitty Chitty Bang Bang we love you chitty chitty bang bang bang everywhere we go chitty chitty we love you chitty chitty bang bang Yeah, we were just, we were gone, I mean we were just, we got out of there and then they take us home and they give us cake and ice cream, but we would just play. We would play, they would take us to great movies and, you know, so when people, yeah when I got into adulthood and got into seemingly, you know, going to college and everybody and everybody sitting around talking about the horrendous childhoods, I would be like, you know, I really thought I, even when I went, I never really went into counseling, I had my dog and chipper to let all my bushes up but I thought, no that was, I got a good launching pad, I got off to orbit. I mean some people I know I met that didn't, the rocket ship never got off, it never got, it crashed and burned, it never got off the launch pad, but I thought, I thought, well actually I got into orbit, but then it was, then that's when my life calling came in, it was like, wait a minute, there's even more, that was just a launch, those witnesses like my grandmother who never, I could never do anything wrong, she was just a witness to an unconditional love that was our true identity and that that whole launch wasn't, wasn't just to stay in orbit on earth, but it was to literally launch beyond the planets and the stars, beyond the whole idea of gravity, you know, beyond the idea of black holes and galaxies and time and space and that's, here we are, the holy instant is. It's the launch. Yeah, it's the launch. We don't need a rocket but a book. Yeah, yeah, yeah, to show the glee behind the book. Yeah, that's why I was telling Lisa because she was like saying, I just, I don't like to feel it all confined and I said, oh, don't, and it's, it's just going, it's your attitude that's the gift, these are your props, whether people take the books or they don't, it doesn't really matter, just go forth, you know. It's like that Swedenborgian minister, Johnny Appleseed, he would always had joy in flinging the seeds. He just kept flinging and flinging and flinging, a great metaphor for our life. We're here as miracle workers to keep flinging the seeds and not to look back and not even look where they land or if they land, how do we know they could be floating off in orbit, germinating in space, you know, soil, sunlight, you can just let it, let the seeds burst forth. It's just an excuse to show them, go, hey, hi, just have this prop in your hand, nothing to do with it, it's irrelevant. I just get to feel like I'm getting stand up here and go, hey, where do I tell you, you know, where do I tell you, it's really good news, that's all it is, just for me. Hey now, hey now, don't dream, so, hey now, there's no wall between us.