 fluent Person около many cases online you ʻa when someone6 is associated to the church, temanim saani ima joy fa kwoe sumtil There's a way she dresses and she gets a lot of backlashie to answer theilen It's an opinion on the culture ofleri in Biblia. Ken petals hashtasing anyone if you want to goT but when you take a left phosphor you will not be able to continue in the culture Kablu jujaj mutu amu semikitu. Rudi kwa biblio hone kame na semani ni koeli. But, sejui dayana navaji. Sasa si ezi jua kama ni mzure, ama ni mbaya. But, tu si kwanza mavazi. Sasa, so unajua, let me say for example, so yesu akiwe kwa world. Unajua kalsia iu time. Anava, like, ni kama kadres. Vile iwa islamo unavasia ezi. Sasa, eh, sasa wu kiva ibo, sasa mutua ki engiha kiva adres. So, atasem mwasi juyo ni ni ni, but ni kalta. Ona get. So, let's not wake up mbaya culture sana kwa church. Church ni biblio nani yezu, culture ii kai kandu. And welcome back, and as you can see, tuna ii mzungumu ii tu, right here. Mambo, vipi. Ni kofiti sana, labda ui. Awesome, awesome. Let me ask, hini, like, tuna ii mzungumu ii kusia nii chachati? Kwa nge, kwa nge kizungumu nii tuna umuli mbana. But you are doing well? Asante, yeh, I am doing good, I am doing good. So, of course, atumeku pata paivi in preparation for the lab na Yorobi Festival. Nga utakwa MC Germany. Wee! Wee! Hei! Unajua watu wanaku juo kukoka, lazim wa checki kwa hanza. Wa checki waki kukoka, lazim wa. And I think, watu wengi ya wakwa na juo labda, like you do MC. I think most people have never seen that side of the world. Sasa watu ona, by fire by force watu ni ona ni ki MC. So, ya know, like, ni kitwen ni na fanya, like na penduku fanya, I think kwa hanza ni kama, like, maisha ni mbili, Pali UK ili kwa na MC. Like Mavens ni ni ni sasa ni bili tu contenti, Mikoji yo side sasa tu me, tu me unganisha. And you know, also, most people don't know that you are an ordained claim friend. Ina kwa ambiya. Let me take a land of you today. Hey, journalists, do your work, do your work. But no, ni ukweli, I think, she da too, I think like kwa Christianity kuna culture mingi imi ingiliya. Sasa, of course, mutu waki fikriya, pasta, bishop. Ni ni ni kuna image, ina tokiya kwa kiliako. Sasa, na kuna image na kuna characteristic. Sasa mi na kuja na, sasa majins ni raged, Shirt ni untugged, dwell ni murefu, tatuzi meja paka hapa. So, I think I, I enda ni na vile watwa na expect, but you know, ata yeso aki kuja ako enda na vile watwa li fikriya. So, unajwa ata, hey, watwa li piga yeso ma, mavitaba na aki kwa. So, like, this is what Christa atu faiko kwa kwa, ya ni so rigid, and I think that's kitueni utona kwa lav Nairobi festival. Like, unajwa like tuna preach the gospel, but civili umezo ea, like ya ni, umwa yo na mutu aki ubiri aki, aki ride and do the aki fly kwa mastans ni ni ni, uja ai, you know, like, I think that's what tuna, tuna leta a new wave. Civili umezo ea, you know, yeso, yeso ali kwa mutu amuta, aiko kwa ati, you know, ni ni ni ni. So, ata yeso ali break maruz mingi, you know, kwa dunia. So, kila mutu ali kwa na, na zewa, oh, ni na ni na ni. So, I think that's the new generation that we're bringing to na preach, but na fire by force, but in a way, you know, gospel idiai change, but Civili una present, lasimi change kwa small generation in abadelika. I'd like to know, when did you know that you have that calling? Which calling? Yoi a kwa rebrand. Hey, I don't, onajio mi na kwa nga very passionate about so many things. So, I think fili ni leo koka, you know, like, basically kwa biri amu kwa evangelize, ame, you know, ikuna maji na mingi, but at the end of the day, ni kwa kwa passionate about the love of Christ. Sasa kama kwa passionate, ita toka tu. Fili toka lini. Sasa ni leo koka, ni li, ay, ni li kwa kwa Christo ni kia umtiri. Sasa teenagers di li kwa na vanya vituku yaungu, halafu ni leo koka 10 ni ni kia around 19 years. So, ni nazusem around that time. And let me ask you, you've talked about maybe the characteristics that people expect a pastor, a rebrand to have, and waka tuluku jakenia, and maybe you being a rebrand. Is it something that has affected you? Maybe wata umboa na jokumbia a rebrand but waka kwa angaliya, it's not what they are familiar with, it may affect, maybe wata kukashifu, waka kukondem, and things like that. I think kwangu, CJ experience, but ni nazuma like, I think that's what Sisi kama wakristo, na, let us see ma pastor, ni wakristo tu in general, onajwa tulikuwa kwa call to love the world, you know, not to judge the world, you know, and that doesn't mean lazimu kubali kilaki 20, kama ni ba ni ba ya, you know, like si lazimu kubali, but I think, you know, ata yesumonyewe, he usually showed people the gospel rather than told people the gospel on a get, so I think that's what we should focus on, let's show people the gospel instead of just telling people about the gospel. What about you being a content creator and a rebrander, moji mevutengine zaidi? See on purpose, I would say, wana jokontu indana chukwa timingi, so pengini sijapata time ya kukwa kwa pulpech kilawiki, but si kami mevuta, but you know, that's what I would always say, si lazimu chagwe moja, ya ni, you know, like people, like one comment I always get is, like how can you be a Christian, you're so funny, and it's like, so basically when I say Mark, how can you be a Christian, you're funny, and if I evil, ya ni, ni ya ni you can be, you can be a creative Christian, you can be a funny Christian, you can be, you know, a fashionable Christian, all of those things, si lazimu moja evutengine. Polpech, are you planning on maybe starting your own church? Well, hachotu ni zemezze, si wezze, si wezze, si na yougres badu, but ni kipata yougres, so wezze juwa, na iken nisa ito kwa na ito haji. The Revren's Church. So I'd love to know Revren, kus iusutu ritu ya wekwa Revren, leo le kimi dushok, ami ben wondering what are the challenges, what are the challenges you face when na you get to know someone, alafuana kujwa kama komedian, and then that other side shows, reactioni na kwangavit. I think iku tu saawa, poli. Iku tu saawa, kuna mutu wana iata anastuka or anything like, I think, nivili utu wana jipresent. Sasa ukitaka kukwa, ya ni ukonama ringo, ni ni ni watajajka mo ukonama ringo, kama wana kujutu kawam zeya kwaida, piwa ko tu saawa, ya ya. Okay, speaking on being a fashionable, clearly you can tell you're a fashionable Revren. Kuma kwa na so many cases online, ya when someone is associated to the church, kama nimsani ama the waifakue something, example Diana Bahatia, these are where she dresses and she gets a lot of backlash just because she's married to a Gospel artist. According to you, what are your thoughts on your situation? I would say to see where kama bia culture kwa biblia. Onaju wa, like, for example, Kenya mutu anava, mi, okay, sijui Diana anava aji. But, vili mutu anava, wewone zamjaju, wone sama siyo right kia biblia, but then uki enda maju, wone pata ato mutu ama ivaivi na ana uberi. Like, ju ni culture, sa zengini ni culture, alafutu nasema atini, ni biblia, ni church, siyo evo, like, I think, tunafaku, kablu wejaju mutu ama usemi kitu, ru di kwa biblia, wone kama ni nasema ni ni koeli. But, sijui Diana anava aji, sasa siyezi ju wa kama ni muzuri, ama ni mbaia, but, to see, to see, kwanza mava azi, sasa, so wone ju wa, let me say, for example, so, yesu aki wa, like, kwa world, wone ju wa culture iu time, anava, like, ni kama ka dress, vili wa islamu anava azi. Sasa, eh, sasa wu kiva evo, sasa mutua kia engiwa kiva dress, so atasema sijui wone ni ni ni. But ni culture, wone get. So, let's not wake up mbaia culture sana, sana kwa church, church ni biblia nani ezu, culture ii kai kando. Mm hmm. Maybe ni gependa kujuwa, what is that one thing that has shocked you, eh, kia engali amebi culture hii eni kenya, and maybe in land and where you come from? I think to be honest nowadays, culture ii maju inani shoku kusinda apa. Yani ni lepega, ni lepega tu transfer, akili, madomo, pakatumbo, ame mepega tu transfer. So, I think sana sana ni kenya madju inani shoku kusinda apa. Kwanza comedy, so, mi ni comedian. Yani ni kenya wuko, yani siwafain fani. Yani wana checka tu, wana checka, yani wana, awana figria, they've made the funniest joke in the entire world. A lafumi na kato ni kizuba like siya lewe atiyo joke. Laki ni kenya, I think kenya humor is just different. So, I would say that's the thing that niko so much different power sayzi, a lafu accent piya. Awana zema accent yango ya yuke imeisha kapisa. Mm hmm. Talking of that, I don't know whether now the fact that you know most people aki kongalia sayiata, like you're so much into like Kenyan, Kenyan. I don't know whether that has cause maybe some for lack of a better word, issues back at home. Like kwa tkwambia labda wewa sasome kwa mkanya, like maybe you're not part of us. Ya, no, ime kwa kidogo, but at the end of the day, maisha yango ikwa apa. You know, like I live here, I go to the UK like maybe six weeks a year. So, saka mwa naske biba ya? Tuna zema, naske biba ya na uko? Any ways you're family based? So, like my mum and dad, my parents, ati my mum and dad and parents, so na bili kizungu ime lebt. So, my mum and dad, my siblings, what you are kwa UK? I'm the only one here. Nili pika tu transfer? Very alone, you just moved like that and your life changed? I think, sii juli kwa 19 ama 20, nili hama. When I left my mum and dad's house, is when I left the UK. What was the reason for that transition? Nili, I just loved Kenya. Kenya, when you know, when I say ma home is not a place, it's a feeling. And when I came to Kenya, I felt like I was at home. Was it maybe hard because of course, kuna ile culture shock, you're not used to a lot of things? Honestly, no. Why? Like nime travel, like sana-sana niki, enda mahali, like 2 weeks nanzuku, ske yo homesick. Homesick sii jwa iske ya Kenya. Ya ni nini mule ni mumeni adopt by force. So, this means you're not hijoi fika pointu kafili, lonely? Okay, kwa kwa lonely, but not homesick. No jwa tu uko, neza kwa lonely uko. But no, like Kenya ni homebana. Sii zi nime kwa matu. If we turn be one thing, you love about the Kenyan people. Okay, sdaki kuru dea, but I would say humor, but I've already used that. Like, ya ni sisi we just make a joke about anything. Ya ni kitu ikusiriasi, ya ni kitu mi fani ka leo, leo, leo. Jio ni umeshao na mami imzimit. Okay. I would say that's like our coping mechanism. Like, ya ni like, wana zem huki boeka Kenya. You put it back in Kenya. Like, kuse ma ukueli sisi tu, humendio survival mechanism yedukabisa. Aha. No, with all that, this means muzungumu tu will prefer marrying a Kenyan lady. Aha? Adi? Muzungumu tu will prefer marrying a Kenyan lady. Sasa zi elewiki zungu. Okay, nasema, hibi inama muzungumu tu angependa kuwa, mstiana kutuka hapa Kenya. Sasa zi elewiki zwa lisa ni ifu. Ima asha, well, asha owa. Kiliuya. Okiliuya, okiliuya na kiliuya ni taji u. Una hepa suali. Okiliuya na kiliuya ni taji u. Mi zi jahe pa kama, eh, so unge kwa na kiliuya translate hapa unge pata jibu lakini. Aha. Unfoja natili. Kujalewa. Kujalewa yoswali. Sijalewa yoswali. Aha. All right. But next time tukiku tana, takuja na kiliuya sasa. But anyway, aha. But anyway, of course you run an organization and I think that's why juna dadina tokanga. Yeah. How has it been? Um, sui me kwa una jwa like pia like so kwa yu organization saizi tukuna 45 kids. Yeah. Ok ni 40, ni young people. Um, siwa toto adogo. But ni ningumu. Aha. Kwanza ki pesa. Sasa wewa wuna panga. You know like kawm was asi wana ske. So wana jwa ki panga skulfiz moja. Yeah. Wei sasa mi me na panga skulfiz ya wata toto 45. Ne ujumi. Mhm. Wei. What is the idea behind that organization? Um, sui tuna sa idea ma boy child. Um, so basically ilikwa like kuna organizations mingi wana sa idea girls and like wama wata toto wichi kosa ni ni poa. But then kamuna jenga twoside moja na wana cha yu siding gine. You know, Mia. You know, Mia. So that's why to let, to let more. Aha. You know, talking of that, maybe are you planning to have the organization extended also to other countries amaba dota. How can I do that? I would love that. Ni pesa tu. Like, kamuna pesa ita kuda. Hey! Tuna spread dunia mazima, Kenya mazima. Wata toto ni. Are you open to sponsorships? Yes, yes, lazima, lazima. So like, most of our funding at the moment ina toka maju but you know, inifalku toka Kenya. Kenyans took on a pesa. Si, si, si, woti but Kenya, hey! Pebele palimuthaiga karen gigiri wei. Uta shutuka wata waka na pesa. So we would love to get support from more Kenyans for the organization. Yes. And I think this is also a project number maybe in Afrenyanga. We see you most of the time or rather at times with the Paster Ruth Matete. Did something that you work together? Not really. I mean Ruth, we go way back. So nili kwa beshte ya her late husband. Okay, so it's weird nili patana na Ruth Kwanza and then nili patana na then it was the fiance separately and then nili jwa hawa pamoja. But no, we go way back like I think around like 2015 but yeah, I was really good friends with the late husband who passed a couple of years ago. So basically like so to call tight sana I think like neme padokus mama na yei ju yam toi piya like you know like atasazengina na feel guilty ju like I'm seeing the daughter grow up and is not able to see because I'm shy and uh so I think to call tight sana but not to kikazi ni kira fiki too. All right, I'm not talking about the organization of course you said you're open to getting help from other people. Suji mutuangi kwa pali injangependa kusahide ino eno or another neza kwa reach out ama neza wa reach out to the people. Yeah, so kwa socials for the organization kwa socials na kwa website and it was the NOAA initiative and NOAH initiative utatu patatu will be so grateful for anybody that reaches out. Yes. Right. Okay, thank you so much for speaking to us. Thank you so much. And remember next time we will have a Luya translator. Sorry omono.