 Thank you so much for joining us on a brand new episode of 420 grams and before of course We get our illustrious panel Which comprises of shark ishwak amit Richard hood jay dee pasu satan tiny who's that? You were Bharati Kree Rangan Renity Singh won't be joining us today because he's unwell and so we told Renity by no problem But yeah, didn't you know Renity by me to not be on the show and I'm sure he's watching the show right now Renity Why? You can still join us. You have the link so whenever you want to drop in if you're feeling better Renity by please to join in But of course before I get jay deep and Richard on the show I'd like to say that it's been three years now Since Egos team match has taken over the team or you know here and there there abouts and You'd have to say me The people in the team the people playing the game This has probably been the best 90 minutes you've seen the team play and it's been a combination of Lord Combination of a lot of things, but the one thing that's really stood out is This you've seen so much heart from the team today That it was just and the heart came in from minute one From minute one You saw this team playing with a certain amount of intensity intensity comes in when you're putting in your body on that When you're saying he's in charge be all jay. I'm just around My leg a runga So as a my request to the Indian football team to the Indian football fraternity to the administration the people watching after the team Play like this every day. I Know it's not possible to do it every day. You're human. You're not robots You can't mechanically say key RG level five level six. Okay, but show this kind of intensity and trust me We're not fools. We don't we of course understand your limitations We understand that you're playing higher-ranked opponents or whatever whatever it might be But agar jaha api yeh liya hai dost dill Aap dil ko liya hai aur aapke bil ki aane se mere dil ko apne chu diya jo mai TV screen pe bait ke deknao Kaam khatam Kaam wahi ke wahi Khatam dost To bhai maza aga maza aga aaj esteem ko dekte we Jin coach saab ke warah mein itre time se mai to atleast mai bol raha ki inkko apni playing 11 Nipata janaab ko mere sahab se aaj ano nahi bhai apni best playing 11 dahli match ke sahab se situation ke hasab se Just be a sahab se apolo janaab ne aaj bhai sarve Green tick mare aaj maza aga dekne me bhai ye jo o match Hena, sorry me thoda lamba jaar hoon Ye bo match hai ki an ishwa kainmat will know the Richard Hed will know this jaytee Pasu will know this Ji, hamaare desh mein supo hoon sol hoonna hamaare desh mein khaar sol hoonna hain to un me se pchatar log asi hoon gayo, he will say Indian football Bha bhai Ab hai kya maza aaj yeh kya maza aaj aaj ye boh wala match hai jo us pchatar me se 15 or 20 loron ko convert kar bhai boh kainge yaar yeh to kus tha bhai maza aaj ja bhai dekne me So guys, thank you so much for joining us on a brand new episode of 420gms, joined by Ishwak, Richard and Jaydeepas. So sorry for this emotional start, because I had a lot of fun. Today I had a lot of fun. Ishwak, thanks for joining us brother. Sir, more than anyone, you know the capabilities of these players because you see them from very close quarters. Whether it be your club players or whether it be opposing players. Aj, for a coach who's been here for three years, is this the best you've seen this team play? And forget the result, 2-1, 1-1. I'm saying result, out of the question sir. Is this the most you enjoyed watching this team play? Well, first of all, I think we, you know like very, very good game, intensity was there, intent was there. For me, the intent was there, I think that's why, you know, like you could see they are playing according to the plan. And I still felt at times like, Sunil was alone in the box, because we also needed three points. But great, you know, like there was physicality, there was pace. And I was so happy to see Jigson playing because I, even if you see the last match, I wanted him to play because I believe he has shown in last season also how good he can be. And he has that physical ability, like unfortunately he got fans, that's because last time full match he played that was in KBFC, fine, so that was in March. So I think one of the reason he was not, he was pulled out, but I think they played great. There were a lot of foreign set pieces which we unfortunately should have scored at least two goals. Two clear opportunities we got, Jigson himself got and most of the times he scores from those positions. You know, like he always runs with that first post and glides, you know, like just you have to do the direction, not just to the move, that's the coaching point we usually teach him. But unfortunately I think you must have forgot it, you never turn your head. But yeah, but it was really good to see, you know, like, I think we should thank Abhinash Thamkut also, who played with Chingari and you could see and I was so happy, so happy there was a fight there. It's funny, we talk about tangibles and intangibles. Richard will, you know, understand this because he is very theoretical and proper coaching manual kind of guy. The intangibles have such a massive influence on you. So Chingari is an intangible, sir. Boom. Of course, that's why I said, like, that is, that is where sometimes when we were talking, so important, like I was happy even for the ego, the way he had, like in a funny way, but really great reply. I don't think which match, whether he was watching those two matches. That was this, you know, like, Maritu said from that answer. But honestly, I believe like, great match. I was really happy. I don't care, I told you like, I think when we did the pre-match, pre-ABC, this show, I said that it's not about how you play, it's about how you win. And they still have a root step, I still believe. One of the best team in this group is Hong Kong, the way they are playing. But that doesn't mean they are, they are invincible. They have been not tested enough. If India will show same intensity and intent up front and pace, hopefully, first everybody is going to be fine and recover at the given time. I think we will win against Hong Kong. Sir, in your words, Ghee Shakkar. Richard, my brother, is this the best 11 you've seen the coach put out? And by the best 11, I mean, I know, I know, you know, we, we play high ranked opponents so the job is different sometimes. So you play a different kind of player. But in terms of going out there, trying to get a result, you know, did it have a mix of everything this 11? I think, firstly, the overruling power of this game was the consequences that were at stake. Whoever the team will lose, will take at least 3 points in this game. That is what set the temperament of the game. So whoever will be 11, they are faced with that. Afghanistan, if they lose, they are out, which they did. And if India made a mess of this, which this was supposed to be a group, we were supposed to qualify from either which way. And we were supposed to walk through? Yes, I mean, this was supposed to happen. I mean, and had anything else other than a win happen today, we would have, I mean, a thousand questions would have come up. So firstly, we have to first acknowledge the consequences that were at play today. I mean, whatever the chingari was, I mean, coaching battle, the, what was at stake and stuff, these two factors kicked in. So whatever 11 was, in terms of, let's just say, with Cambodia, whatever 11 was, none of us would have been convinced that Cambodia was just defending the space. There was no tactics there in terms of whether we wanted to do this or not. Afghanistan came with a plan. And you saw that Liston was marked. I mean, there were two people on top of that. Chhetri went somewhere, Amiri went to him. I mean, even if Chhetri's dropper of the line came and dropped in 20, 30 yards to get the ball. So what was in this, everybody showed up today. That was the first factor. I mean, whatever 11 was, compared to the last game and see him play today. I mean, it was a totally different player. And we're talking just as you said, intangible. I mean, in terms of effort, in terms of focus levels that we had, and it never looked like the game was done, right? I mean, it was until the very end that we would win. Free kick came, and we got a little bit of hope with every set piece. I think we had 12 of the corners. So with each one of these things, I mean, the hope was alive. I mean, the whole, what do you say, in terms of our group, there was a lot of debate about when to start. I mean, the game is still going on and things. I mean, it was a great, great game to watch. Thanks to the, I mean, the situation also, I mean, the games only in such a situation. I mean, we'll never find it again. You compare it to Afghanistan, India, World Cup qualifiers, it was a dead rubber to watch. I mean, the intensity, the fire, I mean, that's not by accident ever. So today, we have to look at all the circumstances and hats off to the team and coaching staff. I mean, it was fun. Jaidib sir, you've seen so many a coach, you know, head the team. You've seen so many teams going to various situations from an Indian perspective. Under Mr. Steematch, and we've all been very critical of him for various reasons, which we find constructive, right? But they might like it or not, it's a different thing. But we find it constructive and we come here to give our opinion. Is this the best you've seen this team play? Did they take all the boxes for you today, the way they played? I don't know whether they would take all the boxes that will, that thing will come later when we really look at it again and, you know, look at it again and remember every incident. So immediately after the match, it's very difficult to say whether they bought, for me at least, it's not very easy to say. But of course, this is the first time it looked that team is willing to fight. Yes. See, if you compare the Cambodia game, it was like some other team was playing. Cambodia match was played by some other team. And this match is being played by some other team. It looks like that and it also takes a, what you say, see, I don't know, it's a great relief as well for the simple reason. Can you remember when we last beat Afghanistan in a match? We were in Qatar. Yes. I think it was a draw. It was a draw. It was a draw. So it slowly started looking like that Afghanistan has done a great favor to themselves by leaving this south, south of these nations and they are improving like anything and we are being blocked by them each and every time we are playing them. So for me it's a great relief that, okay, it's not bad and we can always win. At least we can win against them. Again, if you... Of course, they played very well but I had a feeling in the till the last... Things changed after the 80th minute, no doubt about that. Things changed in the last 10-15 minutes that changed. But before that what was happening when we scored the first goal in the last 10-15 minutes when we scored the first goal 80th minute, 85th minute we scored the first goal, 85th minute. So before that it was looking very frustrating that as if we have so much to do but we cannot do anything when we go at the end. Like Richard just mentioned 12 corners. Missing 12 corners is not a big deal. I am not saying why do you have to score 2. That's not the right thing. But I had a feeling there is not much what do you call it? There is not much planning behind them. That was bothering me. But to be fair, all the corners that were scored, at least 3-4 of them hit Indian heads. It's a different thing that they didn't put it on target. But at least if you connected it that means that 80% of the job done. You have to give them that credit. But after 3 or 4 corners I think Richard will be able to talk about more. But I felt it has become very what you say. We knew what is going to happen. That is the thing. I am not saying they are criticizing them for their lack of planning anything. But somehow it became quite evident that what is going to happen. So I was a bit disappointed at that time. Win is a win. So it is always better to say they have played good football. Obviously they have played good football and qualifying from this group Arjun is not a big deal. When there are 47 it is not a big deal for the simple reason when you have 2 teams going out of the 6 groups 5 runners-up will go. 5 runners-up will go. I get your points. But my point today is one of those games where even ne seers like you and me let's just put it out there. We haven't been too positive about close. I am saying it with all due respect. We have said it. We have put it out there on a platform. You can go back and see our shows. Even ne seers like you and me you will come on to say it is fun. It is fun. In the last 10 minutes I really liked it. And at one point of time also I would thank them because I was thinking what I was thinking I will tell you that footballers have appealed to the spectators to come and what Sunil Chhetri said he said that Calcutta Public never let us down. So I was thinking till the 80th minute I was having a feeling that public has not let them down but the players have let them down if they don't win this match. But that is one great thing. Now the spectators will go back home satisfied. Their team have won. And I am very sure that in Hong Kong more people will come. Today only I got a request request for 4 tickets in the morning I request can you manage 4 tickets which I managed somehow. But I think next match I hope there will be a rematch for 8 tickets. Not 4. Recently in Ferozha Kotla there was a cricket match so I got a request from there to get a ticket. I asked which world are you living in tell me a month ago otherwise you won't get a ticket here. So that is the quality of the cricket. But Ishwak is this C Sir is this one of those games where the unit and by the unit I mean the Masoos by the unit I mean the physiotherapist by the unit I mean the coach the player who is not seeing any minutes on the field they all come together. It really brings you together. Because today Sir this match this was a match for Parishram more than tactical more than anything this was a match for Dil or Dikla I think honestly players play well that midfield brilliant I think the passing they look cool composed especially I think for 70 minutes as I told you from the early when we were talking Jigson he tried to hold and make that game play and the compliment was Suresh he was breaking it and then keeping it simple and then Suresh was chasing also where he won really good balls and I think when you get that midfield combination which is very important for a team because that's your core and I don't know I think we were chatting and I was trying to tell you guys that I strongly believe that he should bring Ashiq behind Sunil and let Liston play a little bit from the left because that is where I think Liston usually come into life and but at the end you know like it did happen but he took out Liston and Ashiq also had a wonderful wonderful match he created that one more really good open chance for Brandon and then great assist he has that physical presence everyone was like really good regarding corners like Jaidith was asking let me tell you but we even we and coaching team I don't think they must have thought they will get 12 corners in a match you may be able to plan 3 or 4 short corners 3 or 4 is still a lot in a match if you do a 4 combination that is really a lot for the set piece corners and when you get 12 corners if they have done 2 or 3 combinations I think 9 has to be direct then it's a delivery it depends upon the delivery how you set up what they how Afghanistan was setting up I still believe we still got 2 or 3 really good chances like where they should have at least hit target if you see are you talking about set piece or open play corners I am talking set piece play and then if you see Afghanistan they got one really good connection and they scored and that's how important it is and I personally believe like had we been little bit more clinical we should have won this 3, 1 or 4 one because we were dominating them and in first half Afghanistan was nowhere yeah in terms of threat in terms of threat they were nowhere and I think maybe their coach must have got the reality check now he must have been woken up from his sleep Sir I am in fact waiting that when will our brother leave the team for sure and then brother will come and update us so what I was telling like I think we need to give credit to coaching staff also by motivating player to play and this is what we are capable and that's why I think mainly 420 grams all of us were disappointed you know because you understood what I mean I got your point Sir that's what I am trying to say if you look at the chat of the kids who are on the chat and I am sorry I am judging you all as kids because I believe you are all 20-25 year olds so don't look at me you are kids for me so kids are all saying this was the best match we have seen in the team play this was that kind of a match that you don't need to have an Ashwag Ahmed or a Richard or a Jedi Basu level of technicality and experience this was that kind of a match where you just see it and you say wow this was nice the 90 minutes was really nice to see Richard I am tired from that 2019 Asian cup I have gone mad saying that this boy keep this boy ahead keep him ahead back I was waiting for someone to put him on the goalkeeper luckily this coach has brought him back up again and you see the way he played today Richard he is a threat he is always busy that's the best part about him he is always there you are mute guys like Ashek, listen players like Sahal all of them cause trouble because at least technical quality they can play across the width of the pitch they can play in the centre also any part of the pitch where they get a little bit of space they will cause problem especially when we are looking at the sort of opposition that we have here even with Hong Kong if 3 of them happen to be on the pitch at the same time then we will start to see some real sparks because after listening the other guys were getting a lot more time also because they gave him quite a bit of attention after Brandon came in then it started to open up a lot more but on the other side you have got great patience if you have had to wait 3 years for a coach to figure out obviously he has been trying his best whatever the circumstances were at that time most footballing countries aren't this forgiving that you have to wait for 3 years to get this feeling that you are playing with Jhan Jigar it shouldn't take 3 years if a coach comes in it's an impact appointment and you start to see these intangibles immediately but you have to keep our system in mind you have to keep the amount of days you are playing so certainly that is what you are expecting a coach to do in 10 days I am just saying as you make because there are so many issues it has been more than 3 years the pandemic has also come and if you see a majority of the opponents they have played, they have been higher ranked majority of them are higher ranked you cannot say majority because half of them at that time I had to show something from what I am saying Jhan Jigar played for respect they don't want to go out of this everybody has seen this as a golden opportunity whatever the coach has said I am just saying whatever the players were it came through today from what I am saying we are so patient that we can wait for 3 years to see the best game in 3 years in 36 months when the correct opposition so this is like an ideal setting we can also say all credit as mentioned initially but all I am saying is as a footballing nation our patience and heart is very big some of the comments flying in are so positive and so great to see since 2010 nobody has seen this quality the boys are fighting playing and things but it shouldn't be taking this long we have got a benchmark now this is how the Indian national team plays but Richard tell me something when matter is concerned to the heart and the intangibles have played into effect there is a key suddenly there is a thing on the line it is about respect do these kind of games do these kind of games come regularly and they are one of those games that once again you have to build up for that situation see it comes up against the factor of history we play them very often and the facts are sort of favouring us the times we played we have come out victorious on most occasions I had seen some tweets where I think we won 13 times and they won hardly 3 games against us historically so this is the thing whatever you want to trigger to fire things up it only comes in the context of between two teams you cannot conjure it straight out of thin air suddenly with Cambodia we have got a benchmark this is how the national team will play we cannot expect it as fans we shouldn't be expecting one level below this at least in terms of effort about hard work all the GPS stats we have got this benchmark that is Calcutta's Dhoop and Humidity we cannot expect it whatever happens we should bring about yeah this has to happen today Calcutta's fans have applauded a lot however the old Calcutta fans I feel it's a very different demographic from the usual Calcutta fans that you get this is a much more vibrant and a much more awesome demographic of the fans who are coming into the stadium it was really good to see and you know I just feel that it brings the team together so it really sets it up for Hong Kong sir it really sets up this tournament for Hong Kong yeah that is true but and see I don't understand what you mean by the more vibrant in what way I can I mean sir the usual the usual people who are coming into watch Calcutta games are your club fans I feel in a way the demographic has expanded a bit I think this people are also on a regular basis I am saying I feel with the advent of social media with the reach going out to a lot more people with the branding going out to a lot more people I feel a lot more people are coming in who are still at that very nascent stage right? yeah even at the club stage that has changed what I have seen even at the club stage that has changed it's not the old prototype kind of things we see that has changed even at the club side because things have changed people's outlook have changed see I have seen at the Mahanmugan gallery 4-5 years ago I have seen the local league match the supporters are watching the match and they are continuously putting Facebook lives on what is happening in the match that time I think Instagram was not there even Twitter was not that popular at that time so people are putting it on the Facebook things have changed with an umbrella in hand the supporters Limbuja Limbuja hand if a fight breaks out and the umbrella will be used for some other purpose those things have gone now I think so people are watching and see as I said I am very happy that the team has been able to at least tell them that what they wanted to do they have done it see they ask the people to come to the ground when you ask somebody please come and watch us then you should have something to offer which in the Cambodia match it looked that was a very cool call given by the Indians some people my career is but after today they will have nothing to complain we are playing against that's a very big thing to say that's a very big thing to say that's half the battle once with the fans they will have I think there will be a bigger number of people against Hong Kong when you play the next match qualification is not a problem as I said qualification has never been a problem from this group but if we are going to play the final round then we should show them something if we start playing the Cambodia match then there is no point going to the final round you better sit at home I would say what do you think after today's match you are talking intently sir I think last time when India played a good match like this I think that was against Thailand in 2019 yes sir I was talking to myself I was also saying the last time I saw a good Indian performance after watching it and I was showing it for the Starsports then it was against Thailand then it was against Thailand then it was against Thailand of course Thailand was a much better site they played the ball quite well among the Asian teams they played among themselves very well we have noticed but they played very well in that match J.J. was there J.J. was playing very good in that match but after 2019 I think this is the best match that I have seen India playing much better football than this against much better opponents so it's not that this is something out of the world but if you take the recent past if you look in the recent past in the last 2-3 years this is perhaps the best match they have played football is out of the 210 countries in the world only 32 qualify but that doesn't mean the rest stops playing it is about enjoyment you play you enjoy, I watch, I enjoy so this is one match which I have enjoyed that is the biggest part of it am I go back home satisfied that I have enjoyed watching a good match it was fun Shwak about the free kick before I get to you I will tell you something about Sunil because he doesn't want to say that he knows from Delhi since the time he was playing with us any free kick there is no penalty suddenly no matter how far you are suddenly you see there is a guy he is taking the ball this is how the player is you must have seen him since then he has been playing free kicks he practices so much in the training session after the training session he practices the free kicks he has finished the goalkeeper keeping in mind the distance keeping in mind the distance and the fact that you have this much time to dip the ball how difficult the skill was that what he has done I think it was ideal the one before was for him but this was ideal he didn't need to dip it he just needed to curl it from the right and he did exactly that that was the only place he would have scored and I think if he took the ball he was pretty much confident he will score that because Brandon is also a very good free kick takeer ideally it should have gone to the left footed player because it always curls away from the goalkeeper but I think when you see the body language of Sunil also and being like for so many years I could see he was sure he will hit the target then we got the best result over there and he had two good moments one was that free kick and one he tried that bicycle kick unfortunately it was a great skill there I have not seen I have not seen Sunil usually hits it first time but that was a great skill like making Haroon look like stupid there but he tried if he would have connect that that would have been one of the best goals in his career but see one thing when you were talking about like I think also I wanted to tell you the previous Afghanistan and this Afghanistan is completely different most of their players play in Europe in fact I think all of them except few because you know like after war they had settled there and they are kind of like I think they have the dual citizenship if I am not wrong I think Richard will correct me there most of them have a dual citizenship and they live in Europe and they train there you know like and that's why they look physically they look much much stronger and some of the players if we have those players we will beat most of the teams that physical presence some of the midfield players some of the strikers we have better than them for sure but one good couple of good things have worked today two Punjabi defenders two Manipuri midfielders that was the goal today I think they did quite well and don't forget the brilliant save of Goodpreet when I saw the save when I saw the save I said suddenly ball came suddenly ball came no sir but you brought out what a save that was because if that goal would have gone in game could have been very different see Arjun I will tell you one thing how it is so so difficult you know like when you don't get ball for 15 minutes it's very easy when you are like playing against a bigger team like Qatar and then Walls keep coming and then you are alert and when you are playing like in first half he hardly got any ball and that was so crucial time if Afghanistan would have scored there they would have parked the bus and we knew we know how difficult it becomes to beat that 8 or 9 minutes we already had difficulties against Cambodia like I think that was the very important moment in today's match in today's match the goalkeeper really saved brother look we are using the current on TV you were there you have seen the fight so before we don't know what you are doing come brother who is troubling you show his face I don't see okay come join us they can see you come we can see you are laughing non-committally which means no that's fine it's the same expression we have when our wives ask us to do something I am just saying before we get into PC and what the coach and all have said you have seen Mukkebazi what happened there tell us tell us sir nothing happened it was the whole game it was a very physical contest things were happening through the game in fact the first exciting moment of today's game was that little fraca that unfolded between Ashik and the Afghanistan captain tour in around the 24th minute nothing was happening of course I think if we go back a bit to the plan it was to be clever so India did that fairly well of the set pieces and all of those things cleverness was a bit but it was a physical game nothing was happening for either side I think Amiri had his shirt on there were 3-4 small incidents that happened what happened in the end was basically that these guys were picking on Roshan a bit and Roshan being one of the youngest teamers of the team during the game it was the last seconds of the game and obviously I guess the Afghans were a bit understandably so whatever upset by how the last 5 minutes unfolded so one of the players on the left was chatting something to him and Gurpeet got involved to kind of you know back up his guy and there were a few punches flying actually so a bit of work for the match to do in the post game to see because whatever else happens or doesn't happen there's no reason for a game or football to turn into a brawling match so football today's intensity is what I did I did it for 10 rupees they did it for Asian blood qualification our level is good but I think once we reach an international stage I'm not sure I mean I can understand the emotions qualifying for us is a huge thing we are in the Asian cup we were saying 9 points yes the truth is being said that was me I said 9 points the guy with the beard also said we did it he must have heard me basically so then press conference sorry to cut you sorry I'm sorry for this he's not the guy who tried to get worked up no who has it on his face actually in the YBK stadium I think Gurpeet has it too because one of the substitutes one of the guys of the Afghan Benz came in later you know you always have those guys in a group fight I didn't do anything in the game but he came from behind so I think he's not a guy who otherwise gets very worked up and all of those things he's quite calm and patient and composed in more scenarios so Gurpeet is the least likely person to be involved in this kind of a scenario but he was and I think eventually they managed to calm everyone down and it didn't evolve further from there or devolve very further from there correct me if I'm wrong I feel this works in India's favour and Hong Kong will be shitting in their pants I don't know man Hong Kong played a pretty fluid game and like Seemach was saying in the post-match press conference as well they look like they have a plan for each part of the pitch they know what they want to do in each third and how they want to do it their passing fluency their goal difference is higher than ours so if the target is to top the group I think Hong Kong would be fancying themselves also they're also after all everyone is in it for the same kind of reward go to the Asian Cup to say that you're in the top 24 teams in Asia and then to kind of be able to compete at that level so yeah lots of interesting things actually from the press conference first tell us about the fight what did you say in the PC I don't know man I don't talk much about the fight I think this is what happens Sir no I ask Sir did you make the incident what do you think are you going to write a report I didn't really see it didn't see what happened and I guess I'll ask Gurpeet exactly what happened because he was right there so hopefully I get a chance to see him I mean what did someone fight in our play shouldn't it be like the crucial match Afghan should be in the top yes you're asking a good question did our players get angry or were they angry they were all punches flying so we have to see what the match commissioner's report will finally say because if retrospectively and I think both the players as per the rules both the players retrospectively might be facing some kind of disciplinary action red card might happen so which means that we possibly will be without Gurpeet for last game really for getting smacked how can you you have to go you have to go and review you have to go and review the video evidence yeah yeah because his reach is good Gurpeet is not like he will eat he will give unfortunately it happens sometimes but should have not absolutely there are no consequences on our level of actions on his level it happens no matter what the provocation is you have to keep your hands to yourself I mean it's a fundamental thing especially when you have this so important match coming up also yeah actually that is one approach but the other approach like the coaches approach is going to be because since we've qualified already go out and enjoy the game and maybe like he was suggesting maybe start without Sunil before you came before you came I gave him gold medal, Olympic medal to the coach how can you because he needs a break break from what for how long what is the next big thing what has to happen in one match I don't know if that's the point before you came important competitive game before you came we were not talking about the result we were talking about how this is one of those games where you and me and the people you are trying to make watch Indian football when is the next game this is that kind of game well sort of I mean I had my moments of despair during the 19th that's for sure but like I don't know the main thing is I am carrying for all of you guys Richard, Svarth, Pandit Renidhi Bhai who is missing I am carrying greetings from Igor he says he watches every episode of the show and he is happy to come on what are you saying I am not so you are saying in the press conference when everyone is talking about what India was doing after the press conference actually I was saving it for after the last match now that I have you face to face let me ask so that no one else can say no on your behalf you say no yourself but he already said I am up for it anytime so just set it up so hopefully we should be on for a chat with Igor Simach very soon and he did honestly say that he watches the show regularly and he sends you all his regards maybe maybe not on every show you know because when I reach the press conference room it takes a couple of minutes here at the YBK you have to go down four or five floors from where we get to watch the game where the press conference room is you have to run on both sides you have to run so till today the India press conference was first so I was already missing some of that but when I walked in he was saying that the football knowledge in India by and large is very low like you said he was in a mood today he had achieved the result that he was looking for and so he was pretty gung-ho so he was saying that so you guys shouldn't put yourself in a position where you are talking about things you don't know anything about and for a room full of Bengali journalists who don't take these things easily I was surprised everyone didn't get up in some kind of rage and not only this kind of thing but also take their football very seriously so anyway so he said you shouldn't talk about things you don't know much about from the get go you are talking about my job being in jeopardy and all of that so in that context if he does watch the show he will appreciate the fact that across the board have said that sacking a coach is not an answer to any of the team's problem it's a bandaid and a quick fix and a knee jerk reaction so that's where it started from a lot of questions concentrated of course on the fighting spirit that the team showed today and all of that he much had a pretty strong statement to say he said that we are called the blue tigers but till I came here we were not the blue tigers but today we have shown that fighting spirit and we will say some of the teams at the asian cup he is taking qualification as a granted so he is saying that at the asian cup some of the bigger teams will and I guess it is pretty much guaranteed that we will qualify now so so he is saying some of the bigger teams at the asian cup might have problems I mean of course it is absolutely fair for a coach to say that after his team has won a very hard fought victory I am not sure we are there yet what I did ask him about was I don't know I missed your chat also so I am not sure what your assessment of the game was but from my perspective there was today very little interlinking between the midfield and the defence defensively for the most part that central number 8 role or whatever it is called number 6, number 8 depending on what role I guess you come from Jackson basically where he was playing and then Glenn Martins came in after that so I asked him about that he said that is the challenge for us at the moment but hopefully next round of matches when we have after this tournament Apuya will be back and a couple of other players will be back and we will be issues out I think that was Mota Mota what the best part no message for the Afghan coach no no he was just mostly about his own player and the match is over what is there to talk about the Afghan coach and I think the Afghani coach PC or anything you didn't get to hear anything no I ran back up there dedication back, thank you for this Apuya thank you for your work thank you thank you for this today was a good day 900 people watching I am very happy to see good stuff the football you see in India the average is good the average is slowly increasing it is good tell me more about the match tell me about the match because from the first minute what was the injection yes I think against Cambodia one of the issues was because the other team was offering absolutely nothing at all it's pretty hard to play against that sort of a team which we covered in the post match chat that day as well today was a definitely different energy somehow more tickets were distributed so more people ended up in the stadium I think everyone was expecting a pretty hard fought game so that helped a lot I think your audio issue was earlier because I turned the youtube thing on now it's stopped it's you so the team was I mean Manveer for example the court chided quite a bit about Manveer in the press conference saying that he had an absolutely horror show first game so the choices that he had was to play Manveer and Roshan Dheke and Udanta because on that side they wanted to have at least one big biggest guy because Afghanistan are a big physical team so on the right flank he wanted to have one of those two those were his options Dheke I would say he's carrying an injury I'm not saying it's fortunate that he has an injury but I'm saying whatever reason this election worked out the way it did was great because Roshan had a cracker much better game than in the first game very good so I think he's fairly convinced that he has not a playing 11 but a playing 23 or 25 in place out of which he wants to get up to a level where three people are competing for the same spot the issues of course will still remain like he was also saying there are issues in midfield ideas if you can't teach someone overnight even in the context of like Sahel he was saying being your player you can maybe come back on this one that he puts in a lot of work and he puts in a lot of he has a lot of ability for sure but he needs to rationalize when he makes his runs and how effective he is because about 50% of the time he's putting in that effort but he's not really anywhere in the team concept the problem is like when he talks about the people that do their knowledge good you were not that time so it was not to you what do you know if he saw Annie then he would break the mic and hit his head no he was they were all very very welcome welcoming so none of that any what you said regarding Sahel there are many other players like that if you ask Sunil when he was like 22 or 23 and then he was still growing that time and I think when he moved to JCT then he came in real picture like when he scored 11 goals or 12 goals in iLeague so it takes time you know like Sahel completely played last year the season where he got many I'm not talking about Sahel there are many other players they will take time they are the future and there are many other players who are waiting in like from the 123 squad also and if you won't play them they won't they won't learn especially the international matches are completely different than the league matches and you need to make them play and that's how they will grow and you have seen like a great finish it's not easy to come as a substitute and then have an impact especially players like Brandon Sahel who are taking who need time you can't expect them to come and do something they might deliver a ball or some goal but usually these kind of players they need time they are not really really quick players you will put them a throw ball and they will go and score but yes some of these youngsters are doing well in fact they are helping the team in fact I think he should praise them they are the one who are taking the load also who are doing the labour also very good actually actually the biggest Richard sorry would you agree with Shwak that the one big positive is the people coming off the bench who are making a difference to the game in these two games your audio level is low come close to the mic Brandon and Sahel have a bit of license to play ahead maybe Jackson and Suresh today if they tried it went well the youngsters coming through and doing the job you look at Aayu Shadikari I don't know if India material is there but it is at the level just in terms of I hope there is a good crop of midfielders coming through I like the player I am telling you for the fight if you look at the job in front of the back four then it will give guys like Sahel a bit more of time wingers bigger or if you keep them out on the wings a lot more then it opens up space in the middle area I mean look at how Messi is playing for Argentina Chetri if he morphs himself into somebody who is playing behind the front line today we essentially played a 4-4 I mean Jackson and Suresh and then front four with Ashik Colasso and Manveer so if we get Chetri to drop off just I mean dedicating three people to the last line because Chetri's passing ability is also brilliant through ball which was given by Ashik which didn't result in much but Chetri's quality to pick these passes from a deeper area and complete them even that is incredible if the legs give way a bit but the passing ability stays just as Amiri played an international football is just showing up for those 90 minutes international tournament and doing the job Amiri hasn't played for a long time today he has taken it out so when the experience all of it comes together Chetri is nowhere near maybe retiring I mean he doesn't need to lead the forward line but even retracting a bit and playing behind him he will get a bit more time and space on the ball his passing ability will be used a lot more he will get a lot more setties nothing works and at least we have definitely in fact I think that's a huge positive that the players where the game time that the players get the midfielders don't really have a chance to grow in that sense so it's a great positive for us that we got so many guys now who can do things with the dead ball and in terms of the practice session as well yesterday luckily it's not that cordoned off the training ground at YBK so outside the curtain you can kind of see so they are focusing very much on those kind of movement the movement that is required in attacking Chetri and how some variations and things like that to maximize at least our chances these are our best chances to get goals whatever you say on the Jackson question another one of this thing for you guys you have never seen a settle midfield right on the last decade or so sir settled 11 settled 11 it's me midfield club form into a national team form that we've never had in the longest time that's what I'm saying in fact I was going to Jaidib sir with that only that you have players who have come in to this team courtesy of club form Roshan Singh Jackson Singh Suresh Wangja Akash Mishra who else is there who are the other guys who are doing really well there are at least 5-6 players Jaidib sir who have come in to this team courtesy of ISL form for what they are playing with their team and now it's showing at least in that one game today you got to see that they are delivering and that's a good sign to see like a long time we were having a conversation that this team needs a bit of a reboot it needs a reboot for the way it plays international football Roshan Roshan Hoga Sir Akash Hoga Jackson Hoga Suresh there are at least 5-6 of these players how long do we have please tell him 15 minutes okay, 10 minutes right thank you you did it right? 15-10 the miracle is yeah true but all these players are also product of the India under 69 but the majority of the football is club football before they have come to the senior now the club play the club football of course whether you talk about Jackson or you talk about Suresh or anybody they are definitely product of Indian Arrows and the India under 70 World Cup effort World Cup effort and the Indian Arrows are not trying to take credit away from anybody but actually the most of the players even in the under 23 team which you are talking about a few days back in the program the under 23 team could be given the senior the entire under 23 team is Indian Arrows product almost yeah Jackson is that Suresh is that so but I am saying that's a victory for the system that's a victory for the system yeah yeah what I am saying is it's definitely a victory for the system but I wish some people admit it that it's a victory for the system that's what I mean I have often seen people don't admit it they think it is there they don't get into this that will be quite a feature what you were from my part so yeah it's a victory for the system if you look at it certainly we don't generally think a lot of players but he is someone of course we have seen for a while I have seen him since he was 15-16 years old been to his house and all that jazz he is not for me a central midfielder of international quality I was a bit surprised to see his name on the starting 11 and I think what he showed on the pitch again he is one of Isfax players so Isfax will probably either disagree or might get angry because passing his first second touch release first 45 I don't think he played a single ball even an inch forward from his own position all the balls were either bang square or played back and even in terms of his movement I don't think he is that kind of that position that is another question I did ask Seema about Jackson so he said that they are also training him and I don't know how it is at the club Isfax but they are educating him to play as a centre back because he has a good understanding to work with Anwar Ali and of course he has that physicality as well if he gets comfortable in these few games and is comfortable on the ball then he could be a decent possibility potential at centre back alongside Anwar for a longer term and again like Jairi Bha was saying it is precisely because of being a system product that a guy like Jackson I think is still in the reckoning for the national team if he had come from outside or from nowhere I don't think he would have gotten a look into the extent that he has at least in terms of starting in a game as important as this so yeah so I don't know Isfax what do you make of Jackson do you rate him as a centre back or a midfielder see I see the match as a completely coaching point of view Richard probably sees the same way if you see how important he was today in our ways I think he was really important many balls a couple of times he won balls where we were not winning the ball because of his physical couple of times he controlled some balls where we usually were playing on the first time in the game he tried to control try to drive and that's good we don't expect also him in Kerala to play that final pass we expect him to play to one of our top guy the next guy and his physical presence winning those air duels and trying to be the first line of the defense he is a counter attack and he has done that quite well and in fact he has done couple of one or two things from as a defensive midfielder brilliant turn where he beat two defenders in one turn and then it was a one on I think three on three situation which we created I am just saying I still remember I feel like as a midfielder he had a really good I was just talking to Ivan also regarding this I think I feel like he is not fit which I feel bad because he has not got enough playing time after the matches but I feel like him Suresh I don't know whether Suresh should play in center midfield there is a big way right back he can play but he is a he is a fullback you can keep him in team he gives that if you have injury Apuya comes and then you have a good physical presence in Apuya Jixson and all these guys which is good you know like as I again said club level and international football is completely different but if you compare today's match then the last match I think when you say that there was no connection between defense and midfield I feel a different way you should see if I will I don't know if we get stats tomorrow every time what is important to defensive player to defensive midfielder to be available for fullback and defend when they are in tight situation and I saw today that happening quite a lot times and then we were getting out of tight situation and then playing and gifting to the other side and that is how that is how in the first half we try we control the game I thought that was we and mind you this Afghanistan is not that easy team they were being full the intensity of the game was was something it was not you are absolutely right if we had not kind of control the game in the first half then towards the end of the game when that tiredness the humidity and all of that really has its full impact then you would not have had enough probably in the tank so this is what these kind of midfielders they will do that job for you then your players like Sahal, Brandon Liston, Sunil and they will do the other job don't expect these guys to do that job and this job if they will give you a goal sometimes if Jigson gives you a goal that's a bonus yes of course yeah I was just wondering whether how you look at him I don't think I look at him as a centre back not centre back I think he is pure defensive midfielder and if you worked on him he can be the one of the best physical purpose what do you think? there is a lot of cantees and there are 11 challenges left Richard I am going to start wrapping up you guys because I just want last ten minutes with Jadip Sir and Ben Olivier to talk about COA Richard the biggest positive brother for you from tonight's encounter and again you got a bit of an audio issue coming from your end is it okay now there is just a little disturbance I don't know Richard I will sort it out so I can let you guys also go yes brother you won't have to go till the time you don't have to go and keep the camera on because the clip will go and the viral clip Sir you go thank you so much thank you so much Ishwak for joining us much love sir we will see you again after game versus Hong Kong much better brother what's your biggest positive and if you can speak louder the people have been able to step up and this has been happening through the league if Ashik is not injured, Roshan doesn't get his debut in ISL overall we are just seeing a lot of these things working out and finding their place the reason why Jackson got 90 minutes he got today is because of what happened to Puyya I mean one person who is coming from another place I mean whatever five by baptism whatever you want to call it this way at club level as well as let's say a national team level if you are getting guys who are stepping in responding and doing the job in a current situation like this at least in the future you know what options are and who are the reliable ones and this gives feedback to the clubs also next year fingers crossed for 3 plus 1 rule India Sunday introduces 7 foreigners it was in 2013 and 2014 I hope that doesn't happen at any point so fingers crossed he stick to 3 plus 1 rule and continuously players and ISL at least in the next 2 years increases up to 16 teams then we start to see a lot more diversity of Indian players playing in different parts of the pitch so having an extensively less number of foreigners and more games I think whatever we talked about other positives we will get to see a lot more organically as opposed to them coming through because of injury or lack of availability of players and things and whoever gets a card may be Jackson play centre back next game whatever happens in the market let's see okay brother Richard much love to both of you sir we will see you after hong kong have a great day before you get your stick on your back sir the last question you are seeing Indian football from a long time and you are seeing the setup from a long time so you have met Mr. Goad do you know that you are going to the hotel to meet him so is this the best you have seen the team play under this guy under the coach oh yes I would say just in terms of forget about the result result doesn't make a difference we are not winning the world cup any day soon so really not that much riding on it from that perspective but yeah other than that just in terms of the show intent intensity and the fight that the team showed all these guys whether it's Manveer or even Jackson like Manveer justifying why he was selected today definitely right from the yeah maybe yeah and this is for me from the beginning this is why he is our number one right wing player at the moment ahead of Udanta or whoever it might be in the running because when he shows up he does multiple things he holds the ball his crossing is definitely superior to Udanta so all of those things and there was a sense that there is a plan through these last 2-3 games there has been a sense that there is an approach that we are leading up to something and that you kind of can tell now how the team might shape up how the team might play so from that perspective I think everything is fitting into place a little bit of course there are issues, there are lots of issues some of the passing needs to be much much much better of course we know all of those things but just in terms of how he set the team up what he set them out to do it could have gone differently there were many moments when Sunil came off the bench off the pitch he was visibly agitated and frustrated with what was going on he sucked a couple of bottles in the dugout and all that stuff understandably so for those 30 seconds your defence has switched off to allow that free header at the near post of a corner you have all 11 players in the box that's a gaping mistake or glaring mistake so it wasn't a flawless performance but to answer your question again, yes, best I've seen them play under steamer lastly sir, before you look what's your plan for the next two days? you've become a blogger whether you want to or not you've become one just give me a photo of the food that I'm eating biryani look at this look at this then you're an influencer bro then we'll go to a party and say this is my friend Siddhanti I was saying that why don't we have a longer chat maybe tomorrow because tomorrow is an off day as far as matches are concerned I'm grazing it with sir once you go, I'm just going to graze it with sir what's happening I'll call you tomorrow in the morning to understand what is going on and if there are some people to meet here in Canada brother you're asking me are you coming back from the train or are you on a flight? depends on the Hong Kong match you might have to walk all through I'll walk for your dandy march thank you so much for joining us Jadeep sir before we go just 5 minutes what's going on with the COA development is going on nothing after what happened in today's meeting I think things are very positive because the 7 member committee which was among the members among the state federations 7 member committee they met COA today, physically they met they all came over to Delhi to meet them and they have they have managed to they have managed to thrash out but they have managed to see give their version of what they think about the proposed constitution in the proposed constitution the state association has clearly said that anything that is in the sports court national sports court and anything that is in the FIFA statue we will accept detail 100% but there are but that's states of agreed but there are members of agreed I won't say states the members of agreed but there are certain issues which has to be thrashed out in which COA also has shown flexibility some points they said yeah we could be some points they said yeah we can discuss about it but one of the COA members is very confident after the meeting he was so confident that he said that supreme court has told us to give the constitution by 15th of July we expect to give it by 7th of July we expect to give it by 7th of July so I think when they handed by 7th of July then what is the tenure then after that by 7th of July they will put the constitution to the supreme court maybe in 15 days they will approve it and then they will go for the elections elections September you can expect and 20th 20th the FIFA TV is coming which will be headed by you I am following you on Twitter you were talking about closet to closet I have talked about what was going on so far those things are there what can you divulge without betraying sources and so on is there anything you can divulge what I have come to know which is again source best and allegations only that money has been money has been recklessly it has been spent money has been spent on salaries on vendors on something which is not acceptable lot of people are upset with it the way the money has been spent perhaps in some many cases the roots were not followed while spending big amount of money so these were all under the wraps but now that COA has come in lot of people are singing I believe like a parrot which I wrote in my Twitter so all these problems are there but all these problems will be taken care by the members only COA has not come here to clean the administration COA has come here to run the administration for the most 3-4 months and then and hold the election yeah something major comes in there in front of them something which comes they cannot ignore at all they will take action certainly they will have to take action but that doesn't mean they have come here to clean the administration their primary job is to hold the elections and to get all the members agree on the on the constitution to a particular point they should agree and then they will done sir you let us know sir when we can have a proper show you me Siddhan and when there is more on this entire discussion I think we can do it I think we should do it after 20th don't you think after the AFCP 14 comes we will have a done make sense and I would also request Mr. Kodeshi if he can join our show oh perfect brilliant I will request him whether he can join our show okay that would be better thank you so much for joining us on the show good day for Indian football today everyone will have a good sleep in dreams we will not miss a goal in dreams we will have a goal in dreams we will have a celebration in dreams we will have a fight so enjoy it because at least you go by past but the hope is that you see this more regularly maybe not the same but somewhere about the same and so you say this is what my team plays this is what you expect from my team and this is what you want to play like members of this Indian football team it's a very simple ask nothing more nothing less just give a hundred percent effort if not more give a hundred and twenty percent effort that is about you there is no need to buy the system there is no need to buy the system that I started when I was 15 years old and I started when I was 5 years old that is about you so that is what you want you will give it we will give it we will be happy Richard get well soon we hope you get well soon we will see all of you again after Hong Kong we will have a proper chat on the 20th once the fever delegation comes to India assesses whatever they have to do and then we will have something to talk about and for all of you I think we touched 900 people on the live today that was really nice to see that was a long back so you know we touched 900 today it just shows that the community is growing and it goes to show when boys give a positive performance so brother whether it is sitting in Bukar whether it is sitting in Jabalpur whether it is sitting in Imphal you touch them touch them and you have done your job that is what we want that is it for today I shared a lot of knowledge but thank you so much for bearing with it much love to all of you and we will see you again after the game vs Hong Kong good night and take care thank you