 Welcome to the ITU Studio here in Shamashake, Egypt, but we're here at GSR23, the Global Symposium for Regulators, and I am very pleased to be joining the studio today by Dan Slabum, who is the Director General of the Swedish Posts and Telecommunications Authority. Welcome to the studio, Dan. Nice to see you. Thank you very much. It's always a pleasure to join the ITU events. Excellent. Now, let's talk about this ITU event. Why is this in particular important for you to be attending? Well, I think as regulator we are at a junction where what used to be sort of our clear mandate is becoming much more complex and therefore the need to collaborate is increasing with that challenge of ICT becoming our new reality rather than telecommunications. And I see you've still got the name Posts as well. So what is the Postal System like in Sweden? Is it still healthy and vibrant? No. I mean, it is one of the many analog systems that are being overtaken slowly but surely I think by digital. We have many other systems that are going the same way, like hardly anyone uses any paper or coins, money anymore. I don't carry any since years back. It's all gone digital, the same with many other societal services. So it's going very quickly and it's increasingly affecting everyone's life. So therefore, finding a policy that includes everyone that makes the new reality understandable to everyone that divides in a smart way responsibilities between telecom regulators, traditional and other sector regulators and finding the smart ways of collaborating between us to make that understandable to end your increasingly challenging but important. One of the regulatory challenges in Sweden at the moment, what are you finding that keeps you awake at night? Well, I'm not sure anything keeps me awake that would be bad, but certainly we are looking forward to getting grips on platforms as a new mode of communication affecting mostly everything we do, data as part of that becoming sort of the new oil as everyone says and how should we deal with that increasingly international, of course, AI is also there at the horizon and all of these things jointly have to be dealt with in a coherent and understandable manner. So that is really a big part of the challenge and the flip side of that, of course, is having all the benefits of all those wonderful new revolutionary technologies is that we have to keep up with the cybersecurity side of things that unfortunately tend to develop a little bit slower than the usage case side. I mean, in terms of regulation, I imagine that you have to be ahead of the curve and it's not always easy. I mean, you mentioned AI before, I think that's something which is definitely advancing at a great pace. Does that present particular challenges to you? I think it does and not only to me as a post and telecoms regulator, but it's so cross cutting it spreads over all aspects of life and therefore also all aspects of government. So it really is one of these horizontal things that we need to look at very carefully and the other horizontal thing that is also happening in parallel and very much related to it is of course all the sustainability topics that come with where we are with the planet being what it is and the focus that we need to have on those topics. We've had a number of guests in here in the studio and they're talking about obviously the concerns that they have and regulatory landscape for them. They have certain challenges like, for example, the rural populations, their economic situation. I would take it that Sweden is in a relatively privileged position perhaps in that way. We have come far. We have fiber to the home or outside the home of some 92% of the population. We have 5G coverage of the entire nation, so we are indeed in a privileged position. But reaching the final percentage points of rollout to include everyone is not getting easy because you start with the low hanging fruits and as you come to the toughest ones that's still a lot of challenge and I think therefore we share much of the challenge of everyone else who is here at GSR. What about talking about being here at GSR? What about the conversations that you've heard here? Are there any major takeaways that you'll be going back to Sweden with of having been attending here and listening to your fellow regulators? I think really the takeaway is almost always the same that we share so much of the challenges and therefore we can always talk about where we are. We can get little insights into how somebody else has dealt with particular issues and we can try to apply at least some ideas when we got back home. Thank you very much indeed for joining us in the studio. 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