 Blind people like to keep their phones in their pockets, not out while they're trying to walk and pay attention to their cane and that sort of thing. But they need to be able to interact with their phone at the same time. And a company called Hable is hoping that their product will make this a little bit easier. So I'm here with Frank van Velsenis. Hi, good to be here. It's a challenge whether I could say his Dutch name and I think I nailed it. Really well, better than most people, yeah. Great job. All right. So what is this about Hable? This is audio and video, so pure audio. Describe what's in your hand. Yeah. Pretend your listeners are blind. Okay. Well, so what I'm holding in my hand, it's like a really small controller. It's around the size of a phone. It's a little thicker. And you have eight buttons on one side. And these are physical buttons, so it makes it easy to control your entire phone with physical keys. So we take over the input of voiceover, talk back, and we make it a little easier. And this works with iOS and Android or just iOS? iOS, Android, tablets, works with all of them. Oh, very cool. So it looks like the standard six braille keys, but it's also got two black keys to the side. Yeah, the six braille keys and two function keys. And we use braille, but actually a lot of our users don't know braille. It's really based on making navigation easy, and a lot of users will learn braille in the process. Oh, very cool. Very cool. So do you want to demonstrate? Do you want to do what we did before? You talk with the microphone and I get to hold the controller. Oh, that's good. Yeah, that's good. I'll give you the Hable. You've got to hold that up. All right. If I say anything interesting, bring the mic near me. I will, I will. So right now we're on my home screen on the phone, and we're first going to do basic navigation. So going an item forward or backwards. So moving an item forward, you have the two big function keys. So you hold down the left function key and you keep holding it down, and you press the other function key once. Am I doing that? So I think we are connected. Is it working? Not yet. Oh. He's got to wake it up. I'm going to wake it up. So you should feel some vibrations. Oh, there you go. Yeah. Okay, let's try it again. All right. When it's talking, put the mic down there. Oh, yeah. Okay. So I'm going to hold the left button and then the right button. Yes. To move. That's long. Oops. I held it too long. Held it too long. So we go back to the home screen by just holding down the H in Brille. So dot one, two and five. Nope. The opposite of that. Yes, the opposite. Hold it down a little longer. Okay. I tell people on the audio what's happening and I'm messing this all up. I'm doing it all wrong. We're almost there. Yeah, there we go. We're back on the home screen. So hold down the left big function key and keep holding it on and just press the other function key once. There you go. Okay. So just move from notes over to books and now to the app store, how do I go backwards to notes? So backwards you just reverse your actions. So you hold down the other function key and press the left function key once. Oh, there you go. And you can, yeah. Once you do it, you get a hang of it quite quickly, right? Yeah. Yeah. I'm being able to know which one's one, two and five, that's really, but I could probably do it the second time. Yeah. Okay. Great. So that is moving forward and backwards and then opening or entering an application is by pressing both of them at the same time. Both function buttons. Yeah, both function buttons at the same time. Okay. I'm pressing them down. Yeah. And, whoa. Okay, I did it wrong. Mm. Yeah, it takes a little of getting used. Yeah, yeah. I was actually being too hard on it, so I hold down both buttons. Yeah. You can do it long, short, doesn't really matter. There you go. There you go. Yeah. So now I'm in notes. Yes. Now we're in notes. And now, so something but a no-brill, you can type in brill grade one or two. Now, if you don't know brill, we just have a shortcut for dictation. Okay. So if you hold down the dot two, the second button, the two, the second button. Yes, in the middle. Just hold it down. And now you can start dictating. Okay. Just don't put up dictation inside notes. Yes. How do I stop it? Hold both buttons down? No, hold dot two again. Oh, hold the two again. Yeah. And there you go. Now it's been dictated. So actually a lot of our users, they all start learning brill as they learn to use the Habl one. And because it's only typing, it doesn't take that much effort actually, and you'll learn it quite quickly. Yeah, this might be a good way to learn too. Yeah. So how much is Habl? So we're actually just launched in Europe, and we're now here for the first time in the U.S. Yeah. We're pre-launch. And here at CSIM, we're taking pre-orders for $2.99. It's not very bad at all. Yeah. And that comes with the software. So it comes with everything. Two years, we'll have updates for the coming two years for sure, and probably for five years. And actually we'll have a whole starting guide. So we have a whole guides and Habl Academy with all the videos which are audio driven that teach you how to do your personal banking, how to open email. But you just said audio driven. This is for the blind. Yes. So it's a video, which is focused on audio. Okay. If video is a supporting there. Yeah. I was going to say that's just mean. Yeah. We do it in sign language for the blind. No, that would work. That would work. All right, Frank. Thank you very much. Where would people find out more about Habl? Yeah. You can check out our website, which is imhabl.com, and Habl's H-A-B-L-E. Very good. Thank you very much. Thank you very much.