 I'll take the hit for this one is for changing everything last night. Yeah, at least you can't blame it on me this time It's usually me that changes everything. Yeah, I Didn't go anywhere near it No, no, it's the There's a sheet right there That's the password for the it starts with the same yeah, but if he goes on the Wi-Fi there's another person using the Wi-Fi Try Conrad guest. It's a house of cards. You can jump on the Conrad network called Conrad guest Ready if you're ready Okay, I'm trying to log in a rumble talk I'm giving up on the chat room I'll just hang out on Facebook Okay, I'm glad you love the behind-the-scenes Liz That's why you're all here live right because you like to see us crash and burn and then get out of the car and wave We're okay. Really? That's why you're here live So Peter, I do not have control over your mic on your end. So if you don't want to be heard Move your mic If you want to be heard mute your mic. Okay, get it. Yep. Very good. What we verb what reverb? Please explain what that means That's not right So that's what it sounds like test one two three four two hearing a double. Oh, okay one two one two one two one two one two one two one two hey hey hey test test now there's two feet coming back from There's two signals coming back Well turn one off And people are saying they're not hearing any problems. Okay, so the broadcast is clean Yeah, so it's just hard monitor. I know what it is now It's remember the settings so you had a line two and a line four Nobody's complaining down the rat hole. Okay Okay, they say it's all fine. It must be fine. It must be fine. If it sounds good It is good Just she just has to hear a stadium effect right right right right right Hey It's still monday night It's been a monday night for like a half hour now. Yeah, really pretty much and it's fall too Anyway, voiceover body shop is coming up right now. Our guest tonight is peter bishop An englishman in new york as he is and he loves it there. I apparently he's still there because he's still there We're gonna have an interesting conversation with him. We've got some news tonight lots of interesting tech And of course, we'd love to get your tech questions. Paul Stefano is in the uh chat room tonight. So We got all sorts of stuff for you. Thanks for hanging out. We'll be right here in a second on voiceover body shop two men twin sons from different mothers with a passion for voiceover recording technology And the desire to make recording easy for voice actors everywhere Together in one place George widdum the home studio engineer to the stars a virginia tech grad with an unmatched knowledge of all the latest gear and technology in voiceover today Dan Leonard the home studio master a voice actor with over 30 years experience in Broadcasting and recording and a no holds barred myth-busting attitude for teaching you how easy it is together To bring you all the latest technology today's voiceover superstars And leading the discussion on how to make the most of your voiceover business This is voiceover body shop Voiceover body shop is brought to you by voiceover essentials dot com home of harland hogan's signature products Source elements remote connections made even easier Vo to go go dot com Everything you need to be a successful voiceover artist j michael collins demos award-winning demo production Voice actor websites dot com where your voiceover website won't be a pain in the butt And voiceover extra your daily resource for vo success And now live from their super secret multimedia studio in Sherman Oaks, california Here are george widdum and dan lennard Good evening. I'm dan lennard and i'm george widdum and this is voiceover body shop or vo BS all right Well, who's who's room are we in tonight? This is uh, Mr. Cipriano's uh temporary quarters Well, it's a permanent house with a temporary booth. Oh, if anybody is that ever had to order A studio bricks booth will tell you It takes a while patient. Yeah, his delivery date is somewhere in december i'm not kidding He ordered it like i'm like a couple of weeks ago. Well, that's that's how popular they are right now They're literally back they're back ordered on making them. I figured they were just sending them by clippership You know take a couple of months. They're very very popular products. So he we built him a nice moving blanket temporary studio And it's it's doing the job. It's not soundproof But it pretty much deals with the reverberation in the room and that's really the most important thing I put a second coating of blankets on knocked down a little bit more reverb, but it's working Or just have any step sit out the outstand on the outside and try to catch all the sound waves It's your typical modern home with zero soft anything in the whole room, right? It's all hardwood floors There's nothing on the wind, you know, it's very reflective. So we did our best Cool. All right, peter bishop is with us tonight and he is waiting patiently by in new york city Uh, and he is on zoom, but uh, he still looks great Yeah, whether he sounds great or not is a whole other deal But we're gonna have an interesting conversation with him about all sorts of cool topics And we've got some tech you've got some tech I got some cool toys that i've been playing with and All sorts of other cool things hopefully some of your questions gang Yes, we'd like to see your question get to the questions We're we're purely in facebook live tonight. The youtube live was not cooperating So if you have questions, well, you're obviously in facebook already So just put your questions in facebook in the facebook chat, right? That's the best place tonight and our Faithful backup chat room moderator will catch them. That's paul stifon. Hey darin. Well better. Alrighty. It's now time for Voice over body shop presents the v obs voice over extra news All the information you need for a successful voice over career And Here is the voice over extra news for september 24th 2018 tell a story Story makes the voice over message stick, especially when you make it personal So what's your relationship with the voice over copy you read? Kim handy size explores this in a recent article at voiceover extra dot com We love stories. She says we swim in it soak in it eat it up daily Hourly even so kim suggests making the copy in the script personal to you that way the script becomes your story Kim relates the advice of actor lavar burton remember him as kunta kinte and roots or as geordi That's how I remember him in star trek next generation Yeah Well last year burton was a keynote speaker at a conference for e-learning developers And he talked about how storytelling Helps to lock in a message to listeners a specific method. He suggested for getting into the story was to ask What if For instance, suppose the script for a weekly radio spot is about cheap chicken and toilet paper What's your story there? Well, you might ask yourself what if to imagine those prices really making a difference in your life Seriously, suppose you're a millennial who's just left home Or you've got a new family and your money is going towards diapers Or you're on a fixed pension You're what if world building will help your message connect on an emotional level make that story your own Our voice over clients and trust us to tell their stories to their clients kim says It's a big responsibility and to apply our trade well We need to understand both the needs of the messages and the message receiver Tell the story you'll find more on this in kim's article now at voiceoverextra.com go there to find Virtually hundreds and hundreds of helpful vo how-to articles and career resources All righty All right, tell the story Because that's what we are as voice actors. We are storytellers indeed. We are like we're gathered around the bonfire Yes cheap chicken and cheap toilet paper But in a compassionate way at the same time compassionate about cheap chicken Well, whatever so what's up in tech with you this week? Well, what's up in tech is uh the internet has been a real pain in the you know what tonight It's the russians. I'm literally trying to view our rundown right now and it's trying to connect to google So i'm having a little trouble viewing the show read it on mine. Mine's working. Yeah, cool Um scrolling down to my to my notes about what i'm going to talk about here. There it is Speaking of internet A lot of what i've been dealing with in the last week has been regarding getting internet accessing internet Where are you going to get it? How are you going to get it one of those products? That has come to mind speaking of joe sipriano is a product that uh joe actually found and brought to my attention called the sky room And uh, you know a lot of us have hot spots on our phones That's very common nowadays where you can turn on hotspot on your phone and be connected to the internet You may need that tonight. Well, yeah, it's a good backup to have My phone doesn't most your iPhones do However, that's a problem when you're traveling abroad or in other countries because the roaming charges will kill you They're just insanely expensive to brow not brows roam on your phone And if you get one of those little jet packs or one of those other gadgets same problem They're locked to your account here in the states Well, what sky room does is it provides for you this cool little hockey puck size router That runs on 4g or lte or even 3g whatever is available in that country Whatever is available in your region and it will connect to that system And now provide up to five of you connected on wi-fi an internet connection So it's being it's able to jump from network to network country to country It doesn't matter as long as there's something available It's going to connect to it and for what do you pay for that? It's about 150 bucks I think for the for the unit and it's about 10 dollars per day flat rate Which of course 30 days that's 300 dollars This is not something to be using Every single day of the week This is something that you use on demand when you need it when you're traveling And for 10 bucks a day, it's a killer deal Bottom line is we've talked about this before but now joe has actually used it In france, and I believe italy and he said it was pretty much flawless It worked everywhere. He needed to use it. He was even doing source connect over this thing Um, it rarely he said one time it ever gave him trouble So what does that mean to you? It means if you need something when traveling overseas This could be the thing. I recommended it to a david k I haven't heard if he bought it. I I need to check in with him He's been pasting posting on facebook. So I know he's using the internet and that he's alive But uh, he's going from uh, he's going from switzerland to russia this week So I I recommended it to him as a secure way to get internet while he's in russia I figured having your own hotspot. It's probably the best way to go. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah But is it secure? Who knows? Yeah, I mean it's it's secure as the isp that you're connecting to So hopefully it's secure enough that it's going to provide him some way to get on the internet while he's traveling Another thing I've been wrestling with a little bit or experimenting with I haven't fully committed yet Is using what's called project five for my mobile service. So I I've been using verizon for a long time and la verizon is really strong Um, but it was getting it was really expensive and I thought I'd try something new. So project buys google's Cellular or mobile phone service and what it does it bonds or Connects together or switches seamlessly between I believe it's actually more accurate AT&T T-mobile and sprint. So basically everybody but verizon And uh, it supposedly gives you seamless call jumping from wi-fi To these mobile networks and we'll move from one to the next It's worked okay for me. It has not been as strong at my house I live in a canyon and t-mobile Actually verizon really pretty much Rules the roost where I live. So it's not been as quite as good But everywhere else I've used it. It's worked pretty well At the only downside and I will I will warn people for those of you are considering this If you're a google voice user and you have a google voice phone number for your business Like I do And you want that phone number to be able to forward and make calls from your google five phone using your personal phone number Not gonna work I found out the hard way and it's a pain in the neck that I can't now Seamlessly make calls and receive calls through google Because I have two different systems that are both google that won't work together It made me want to bang my head against the wall So I'm having to now use skype to make my business calls on my mobile phone It's not skype. No. Yes. I know it is not seamless, but It's working for now. I may change my mind and bail on this whole thing and go right back to verizon I haven't committed and left verizon technically But my phone number is ported over to To uh to the new system for now So we shall see but if you're looking for alternatives and you have a simple lifestyle no dual mobile numbers Project five could work for you. It's six but uh six. I'm sorry 10 dollars a gigabyte Until you hit six gigabytes, right after that. They don't charge you anymore You they just say we're not going to charge you anymore We'll keep giving you internet. It's pretty cool. All right. Yeah. See what happens. What do you got over there? You got well, we're going to talk about this one in a minute. So awesome All right, we got lots of stuff to cover tonight and peter bishop will be with us very shortly So stay tuned. 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Mr. Cipriano here who's uh You know I got to have a booth You wrote a paper on small booth acoustics you and I have worked on Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of home studios other guys Who are they? Well, I mean a lot of people have a background in you know radio and you know, they have backgrounds of music Or maybe they're music engineers There's a you know, maybe they've done this or that but dan and I have dedicated our energy to this one field With blinders on practically for a really long time And so that's you know gives us a unique skill set to solve your problems So if you want to get help from the likes of us Where can they find you dan? Well, they can find me right here at home voiceover studio dot com There it is right there. You can go over there See all the cool stuff that I can do for you. I do consultations I will analyze your audio for 25 bucks. Just drop it in the specimen collection cup I'll give it a listen. We'll talk if you need a lot of help We'll see what we can do and if you want to talk to george you go to George the tech dot com or if you like those short nerdy ones George the dot tech and I've got a menu of services on there some of its scheduled services one on one Some of it are send your files. I'll send back the results I can design things troubleshoot The like so go give me a look over there and uh, I'd love to give you a hand Alrighty, so what do you got going on over there? Well the famous and most talked about mixer face Yes, what I I have a mixer face. Yes, because um, I was playing around with it this afternoon because Another company a danish company by the name of dpa Oh, yeah, baby. Uh, they make danish pro audio. Is that what they stand for? It's just as dpa microphones Both the google i met these guys in philadelphia and they wanted me to try Some of their microphones. Uh, I have their shotgun mic in my studio right now. Yeah, it sounds dandy You know and that and that's saying a lot for me because mostly I think It's a microphone. They all sound the same and there really isn't a big difference This one is just so clean and so crisp above a lot of other stuff And ain't cheap but but they also have this little cool thing Um, it also has they also gave me a headset mic to check out and I used it on a webinar this morning and it was That was sweet. I bet it was nice. Was that an ear set where it sits over your ear and it was just like there I didn't have to worry about finding the microphone. It was like, hey Look at this. All right. I've had those in the past, but they were really inexpensive ones Right, this one was not a cheap one. Yeah, uh, but they also have this little thing and this is uh, It's a it's on a little goose neck. It's a it's a very focused. Um What they call a pressure gradient mic. Oh, yeah Um, but an active one and uh, it works on xlr even though it has these little tiny things on it And I plugged it into a mixer face And that is plugged into my telephone And I can use twisted wave on here and it It will pick it up and I recorded some stuff with it I'm thinking if you've got a mixer face in one of these guys Yeah Talk about miniature and easy to use. Uh, say with a harlin hogan portabooth plus or portabooth pro Uh placing it in there in the right way You've got yourself a killer rodeo. Yeah, I think it'd be ultra portable Right. Do you have any idea what the model of that mic is by chance? This is uh, I'll have to go find the box Which is buried under a pile of other things, but yeah, I think it's one of those modular base Things right where the mic and threads. Yes. Yes, and you can change off different capsules. So right The dpa is all about modular mics with different setups for lavalier headset they And they're known for this is what they're known for their man known for micro Micro microphones like tiny little tiny that is that little tiny thing at the very tip is the microphone And this is really what they're known for these guys have perfected it I was talking we've talked about it And I brought it up in the past quite a while ago before the show I mentioned these guys Their mics are used on film sets all the time right and one particular that really impressed the heck out of me Was um the the movie lame is the rob. Yes theatrical production. Yep The all the singing in that film Was done with mics like this. Yeah, and the mics are actually On their costume oftentimes outside the costume like this. So how did they shoot that? Well, some you remember in the movie if you haven't seen in a while There's these extreme close-ups of the singers just just to get it out of the way It's basically for the they cropped the mic was a bit much. I think yeah Yeah, and then any time there was a medium shot They digitally painted out the mic with CGI frame by frame so they could hide them But that's how good these mics sounded they used them to have live performances Singing in a feature film. It's really amazing. Unfortunately, russell crows worked He did his darnedest he tried his best i'm sure he filled the seats. Uh, well it was like Yeah, I mean I can see him as jovair, but I don't hear the voice being jovair. It doesn't quite work out. No, it really did But anyway, yeah, that's the dpa mic and that's gonna be fun to experiment with I look forward to hearing kind of You know, I'm having a real world. Well, I use these things in the world experiments So that's that's the really cool thing about it. Cool. So I'm writing a review on that And uh, and I actually started a new website. Oh, yeah called voice over gear dot com And store it's it's no it's not a store. Oh, it is a uh, it is a resource where I am writing reviews of different products And if I don't think it's very good, I'm not writing a review of it Only stuff that I think is good enough for you to use and if you go over there, uh There's a link on there. It'll take you right to Different vendors and you can shop different prices and if you want one you can get it Go to voiceover gear dot com. Okay. Awesome. All right. Is that one that you may end up putting up on that website? Oh, definitely Oh, absolutely. You know, it's in the high end stuff. I mean this stuff isn't cheap, but it's really good. Yeah So I did I did a Quickie review today about the uh, Sennheiser mk4 digital that's their usb mk4 right I had it last week and you got it this way Yeah, I if it's just up on my facebook page on george the tech If you want to give it a give it a look see and a listen I actually uploaded a wave file of my review as well So you can hear just the raw audio that's picked up by the mic Um, you know, I didn't have other usb mics to shoot it out against It may be time for us soon to do a new shoot out monster usb shoot out because we did one at Wovo Was it two years ago when we did that? Yeah, yeah, and we did one here Not long after I arrived here in California. We had that the the wovo was usb specifically, right? We had like eight or nine usb and we had that booth that was hard to move through the Tropicana That was fun in itself. Yeah, but uh, you know, we might be due to do to do another usb It's you know usb mics for me are becoming a really hard sell because We have such great products like that like this mixer face that are so much more versatile and have much better headphone amplifiers and everything usb mics have a really hard time duplicating the quality you can get with one of these really Absolutely. I mean if you if you really want something that you can toss in the bag Apigee mic, it's a good option Um, I think they have the mic apigee mic plus Yeah, for folks for folks that want some more bells and whistles. I got a headphone jack on it. It's gogoos 96k Like why would you record at 96k? You know, but almost never for voice over, right? But you could you could use the ability to if you absolutely positively had to yeah, you probably won't but you you can't Okay, so anyway, uh, but what else is there anybody did anybody post any questions? Paul Stefano posted a question. Oh cool. And and he said, um Saw your your digital review or your review of the mk4 digital. Does this mean usb mics are no longer taboo for pros? Well, well, I guess I preemptively answered that, right? Yeah, I They are not taboo for pros like in used in the right context, right in the right environment. Yeah, I mean usb mic quality Really not a problem. I mean they've gotten the mic capsules or the mic capsules themselves and the mics the main part of the mic The capsule the body They're being taken from already established designs that are working right the mk4 great mic Then they're melding in like in the case of the mk4 the guts of an apigee system, right? Probably they're I don't know but probably taking something very similar to what's inside the apigee mic the preamp The ad converter all of those bits They're melding them together and putting them in the mk4. So you're getting really high quality stuff out of that mic It's is it going to fulfill your need? It's going to fulfill your need like any other mic would right? It's not a shotgun mic. I haven't seen a usb shotgun mic yet Somebody mentioned when I was doing my review today. When's that going to come a usb shotgun mic? I haven't seen one yet Chances are the first one we see is probably going to be pretty much consumer grade stuff I don't I don't expect it to sound very clean and quiet Right that seems to be where most usb mics tend to fall down as they're quiet. They're they're level of hiss Right self-noise like the usb The at20 20 usb. Yeah, that one's pretty noisy. Yeah. How do you hear that one? People say I don't I don't think it's noisy. Well, you're deaf Yeah, I mean it's it's you haven't heard makes a lot of hiss you haven't heard a good mic Yeah, if you think that I mean it's an acceptable mic. Right. It's a great first microphone It's a get your auditions banged out at home. But that's about all that mic's good for already All right. Well, peter bishop is standing by incredibly patiently Uh, we might actually let him get on the show. He's still moving around. So everything seems good He's alive zoom still works the internet's working. All right. Yes. All right Well, we'll have an interview with an english accent coming up right after this Cheerio Are you confused about how to set up and maintain a professional quality voiceover studio? No wonder the information out there is mostly Mythology, this is the best microphone to use. You'll have to have a preamp. You need a soundproof booth This software is the best your audio must be broadcast quality Consult with someone who knows the truth someone who's been there in the trenches doing voiceover for over 30 years Someone with unparalleled experience with voiceover studios Who's worked with hundreds of voice actors and designed hundreds of personal studios? He knows how to teach and cares about your success In one of the harshest environments known to voiceover your home Dan Leonard the home studio master Separate myth from fact and get a handle on your personal voiceover studio Contact the home studio master at home voiceover studio dot com Hello, hello everybody. 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Well, he's a very unique individual He's a british national living in new york. He's an englishman in new york Okay, a corporate refugee a rock music aficionado a talented voice actor and now president of world voices organization Of freelance voice talent Um and like most brits never had a loss for words ladies and gentlemen Welcome peter bishop to voice over body shop Peter, how are you? Thank you for that wonderful description. I I don't know whether I better look up to it Or shall I though we'll we'll find out, shouldn't we uh, you Union jack up there just just in case people I'm all messed around. It's over there. Yeah, that's it All righty, um, well tea tree. Yes You're not to be confused with the actor peter bishop You're the voice actor peter bishop the guy who was on fringe and a couple of other things Do you ever get get email from people saying how much they loved you and fringe or? I've had a few people that have difficulty separating, you know reality from fantasy And the guy really messed up my google foo It's also very freaky when you turn on the television It was the sort of thing that I might want to watch and it's like oh, it's my name Weird so Yes, it messed me up for a while So why don't we talk about you for for a couple of minutes about you know your background because it's a fascinating story Uh, and uh, no just walk in front of the camera. I don't care Just cross the camera. Oh, it's not loud Okay, all right. Well, that was that was a good take by our technical director to just uh go to peter Okay. All right now get peter again. There we go. All right, and now george can sit back down again We just needed to monitor a little bit louder Anyway, so where are you from originally? Originally, I'm an airline brat. Um And I ended up working in the air transport industry uh for a big multinational that dealt with uh tech and communications and stuff like that for 25 years Got to see the world traveled around climbed up through the organization spent time in the training department, which was interesting. I was designing developing and delivering training courses and as you climb the tree The corporate bs gets thicker on the foot unfortunately and Um in the late 90s, they asked me to come over to the states and it suited me at the time to do so Um, so basically I've been here 20 years, but I left the corporate world in 2004 so Yeah, so I did very little for a couple of years then sort of got into vo About 2006 at a very Yeah, what would you do in those two years between something about mixing music tapes and oh no the the mixing stuff was actually something I'd done a long time before in the uk I I I'm a failed musician, but I love music. I can't play wrong with that But I enjoy it so much. I ended up as the guy that would mix all the local bands and that sort of stuff So I knew my way around cross-miking techniques phantom power mixing desks compression so I knew that from a hobby point of view that I became an engineer Uh, and then always was tech so I carried the that technology part with me throughout and then with the whole corporate presentation and training stuff um, I was giving presentations at very high corporate level up to um government minister level that sort of thing So bringing all these skill sets in I had a running start with the tech And as far as the corporate stuff went I can I can sound credible and I want to you know So so were you like voicing recorded material or you you were doing live presentations or what? Oh presentations, um the training stuff we did we hadn't got into e-learning or distance. It was all classroom um, but the presentations were all to um Various people in the air air transport industry and in some countries that means you're dealing with the actual government as well. So um Yeah, it was an interesting time, but it gave me, um, I think Quite a wide skill set and the hobby stuff that I started with at 17 Was just a foundation because my father was an engineer. So Um, I think he gave me my first microphone Hmm. Well, so that was that was how that's what I brought to the party in in 2004 How did you discover voiceover then? That's a special year to me too. That's the year I moved to la And started discovered the voiceover world to 2004. Yeah, it's you get into it and you think Where have these bloody people come from? They always been here um Okay, very briefly. I was in a very supportive family environment where very much it was follow your dream um my stepson is uh successful actor and I've been taking him to auditions since 2002 2004 when I had free time after 2004 I was taking him into the city for his auditions Coincidentally, I've now been I'm now going back to the same rehearsal as uh audition rooms But I got a taste for it then the the world opened up to me Uh about this whole Acting malarkey and stuff like that and I also got no memory and I have to read from a script anyway voiceover seemed logical You get that up. I must admit um for many years I learned the nondescript grunt when at the checkout in kmart or in a diner When people say oh, I love your accent. Wasn't it a shame about princess? Die so You have to learn to grunt in a nondescript way so they don't know where you're from All right, so I buried it for a long time, but I was told repeatedly that I should do it because um, I as I say I can sound convincing sometimes when I want to can you give it a an example of that Uh, I talked to you into putting me on here, didn't I? True no, um you just go into corporate mode which is um Not to be complacent about it. You mustn't ever do that. Everything's a performance. So you take the script and I firmly believe one of the biggest things with especially with corporate Who am I and who am I talking to? Where is this being pitched? Is this going up or down? Is this uh between two silos in the same company? Am I trying to strike a rapport? With a manager who's my equivalent because I want him to buy internally Or what is it? So I'd had lots of experience in I said walking into a room and judging it um So it was bringing that skill set to scripts. Okay. Who is this going to? so yeah, it's It's it came easily to me and I hate to say that because so much of the other stuff that I do now Didn't come with that level of ease at all. Um I mean some of that I still can't do. Well, what kind of stuff are you specializing in and what kind of work you've been doing? Um, a lot of e-learning stuff corporate. Obviously e-learning is my bread and butter really. Um, I stumble across promo and commercial. I don't seek it. I don't Put myself out into the uk market because I don't want them buggers to come over here and square my pitch You know, so i'm not going to go to the uk Too many brits over there so they can have that just don't come here But occasionally you'll get uh commercials and promos for uk outlets that are produced by american companies and with isdn and being on the east coast I just work from a time zone point of view so it may not be the voice. It's just maybe i'm available So that's where the niche marketing of an englishman in new york works right because oh, yeah, he's english and he's here Or in the same time time zone and he's got isdn so Sometimes it's a matter of just being available. I guess like being Available in a way that makes their job easier. You're you're like it's funny, right? It's convenience, right? You have the right accent in the right time zone For those jobs with the west coast that there isn't a business hours time window between london and la Yeah, it just doesn't overlap hardly at all right. It's they really don't it is very early tomorrow morning there Anytime we've had folks on from europe that we try to get on the show Those that were our will dare do it, you know, they're on at three in the morning It's four o'clock in the morning if you're on mainland europe at the moment Yeah, absolutely So so you're probably doing a an occasional jaguar commercial for a local jaguar dealer or and stuff like that I local ones absolutely. Um Six people have come to me and said i heard you on this latest jagad I have to state for the record. It's not me finding out who it is Well, you can well, of course you can always claim credit, you know, it's like yes, why thank you very much You know, no, I can't do that. I didn't do it. So, uh, i'm not going to take the credit for it Oh, okay. Well, you know, you can always do it for the mini cooper dealer since it's really not you on the of the jaguars, but anyway So you'd have to do a little bit of niche marketing. I would imagine with that with that voice absolutely, um I mean there's so much stuff that I I can't even you know, I The agents now seem to send you send you everything and it's like I don't i'm not going to sell tractors To a midwestern farmer. It's just not going to work um So you have to learn to filter through what's there and just say no no no Oh, that looks interesting. I'll have a go anyway. I haven't done anything today. So, uh You mix and match sometimes it's worth throwing the curveball, but Most of the time it filters itself out. Um If they ever use the word sophisticated in there, yeah, I'll give it a go Okay, so, uh How do you do your marketing then? I mean, do you are you like are you talking to English companies? Are you talking to American companies and saying hi? I have a very classy voice or What what's what's part of your process? Most of my marketing as I say, I let the UK do its own thing I don't want to compete with Thousands of other people like me. I just tens of other people like me is fine Um production houses Primarily that's my target because everyone needs to tame Britain their back pocket. That's what I always tell them Um Send the demos you explain what you've done Um You set a low expectation It's almost like saying I know you may only have something for me twice a year But if you have enough companies giving you work twice a year that adds up Um, no one's gonna give me a steady stream if I'm just fishing in the American pool and that's that's fine for me. I've got um, I work every day and Any more and I'll I have time to sit back and do things like this. All right Very cool. We're talking with Peter Bishop who joins us from out in Long Island And uh, if you've got a question for him about how we do this as marketing But we're gonna get into some more intense stuff in just a second here throw it in the Facebook chat room tonight where paul stafano was standing by and he will Relay your question to us Uh, you know, it's great having you with us tonight, peter. Um One of the things that you're doing now, uh that you've been involved with for a while Thanks to me. Uh, is you're now president of world voices organization. Thanks or no, thanks. Yeah Or what? There are some times when I I I hang my head. Um Yes, um, well world voices whatever british president, uh, we got uh Canadian as vice president and a smattering of others um It's a wonderful organization. Um, as you know, it was started with the the founding four who had this vision And what they hadn't worked out is they shouldn't have put term limits in place so We've had dustin was the first president Dave Corvo the second and Now i'm the first president that wasn't one of the founding four and It shows that the organization has grown If I have a an aim for my Time as president, it's going to be putting the world in world voices We want to reach out more cross borders We've made massive inroads and I must say most of that is down today We're getting into the spanish speaking, uh, latin and south american Areas we have A strong representation on the board from that area and we're getting down there um Really trying to bring on board the spanish speaking community um Once we start getting outside The americas the job is harder. We have members all around the world Um active members out in the the philippines and europe australia And I could just list countries, but i'm not going to um It's to build the communities there as well. Uh, we need to have a very global attitude We're endeavoring at the moment that everything we produce is in english and spanish Next on the list will be french But these these things are going to take time. Um As you know, we're all volunteers and we're all running our careers as is so um We can only do so much, but I like to think we're making small steps in the right direction all the time Our job is to advocate for everyone not just north americans And south americans and latin americans Well, the Germans and french well, it's what's fascinating is the different economic climates And processes in a lot of these different countries that you know the the pay scales are different the way people are Uh, do their jobs is different. I think in some south american countries. You have to be licensed to be a voice actor You know you have to take Continuing ed classes. Is that like a fish license? Not quite. This is where I get a hunting license Um I actually don't find that idea that bad actually Do tell Uh I think it's very easy and a lot of people are trying to make it easy for people to get into the business Before they're ready There are a lot of people selling the dream, but This isn't unique to voice over it's acting. Uh, the big scan. What was it in the 70s and 80s? Modeling, you know Um Come to me. I'll take your pictures. I'll get you on an agency roster and $5,000 later. There's some hopeful young girl in Haudenosa, Illinois That all she's managed to do is lose her parents $5,000 We have to be mindful of The fact that this hopefully For people that are starting that the end goal is a career. It's There are some people that want a part-time job, but this isn't pin money This isn't just to do a $50 IVR job and then say I'm a voice artist because that does nothing for the industry It's great for the ego. It's great for chatting with your friends about but Anyone that's going into full-time video has got to have a target of Paying the bills and paying the mortgage or rent or whatever making the car payments It's a real job and it takes real work You're not going to buy that there's no magic pill A lot of these guys it's just pyramid selling. Um They are serial entrepreneurs and they've moved on from one business to the next. Oh, look vio looks like a fertile ground now so Let's get into that lots of fish ready to be caught. Um it does upset me because I think it confuses Newcomers and they don't know what to do so hopefully world voices because Anyone can come in as an associate member even if you've just got a passing interest in it And we will give guidance as to what is legitimate. What is not legitimate? um And free advice that the mentoring program is is wonderful. You can come in as a I'm just thinking of vio And have a couple of chats with seasoned pros who will give you their time for free and and set you on the right path not by Responding to a banner ad on facebook or something or it will crop up on your google searches Because you have been searching the next thing, you know, you've got a get rich rich vio scheme being advertised to you This I think it cheapens and damages the industry And yes somebody got upset with me the other day because of it so I don't care no No, that's fine. This is an open society You're allowed to say what you want to say unless the script says something different. Yeah, um correct script Oh, yeah, I mean it's and and it's one of the things that we we'd certainly try to do it woe woe is it It's advocacy, but it's also activism Letting people know what it is. What's the reality out there? And but most importantly not so much even to the our members who benefit greatly from some of the stuff we do but our one of our true missions is to Make sure that people who hire us Realize that voice actors are professionals who are well trained and if you want a good voice actor hire somebody who's the member of of world voices organization And uh, you know what's which is one of the reasons we started voice over dot biz Because that's our searchable directory of uh Of our professional level talent that's been vetted. They are guaranteed professionals. They know what they're doing And uh, and it's important that You know producers are finding out about it. I think somebody found us today as a matter of fact And was emailing around I'm not exactly sure what he was talking about but It's it's interesting that you know, we see these things and You know that that we're there and we want people to know What professional voiceover is all about and so I'm I'm really glad that you've taken on this this this burden of being president What what have you found so far as being president that you like? Um, I might have to come back to that one But it's more about the difficult questions though, isn't it? I okay, let me Make one thing absolutely clear because I got into another tussle on facebook the other day over it. I love community. I think um The two things that Really made a change to my voice of the career was with the community on the the vo bb A traditional old bulletin board and fafqon Um because I was just a basement dweller before that um And the community community is incredibly important, but I think there are a few too many communities now How many facebook groups are there to do with voice? Oh, it's I don't know how many are there billions and billions Yeah, um, but the question that does come up And what I find is the most difficult question that's ever asked is If there's a newcomer that wants to get into the business The question is How do I do it? Because we are Up there saying you don't go to the unscrupulous pay-to-plays You don't go to the snake oil salesman Coaches or demo producers And you don't go to fiver and that sort of thing It's one it's like a mantra, but then the comeback is quite legitimately then what the hell do we do? Um, it's an incredibly different difficult question And all of these things can actually be used, but you have to use them and not allow them to use you There are lots of people who are making money on fiver But they have a very specific attitude towards it and they put And they sell it that's the problem then it looks attractive to everyone else Who then starts charging five bucks and wonders why they're not making any money Um, if you can transition out of that maybe use it as a stepping stone. I don't know the answer. Um The whole thing makes me want to wash, you know, you could deal with Um, but some people are making a success out of it or use I know I know one um Vio personally who used to advocate for them but then moved on out of it and had this epiphany that All these cheap clients aren't going to pay my bills So he transitioned his career and he's doing very well now so They're like quicksand Once you're in it's difficult to get out But what if you can you'll be okay But it's a difficult question. Well, I don't want to be in the position to say this is what people shouldn't do Without having a concrete. This is what you should do A lot of it is a lot of research Talk about newcomers I haven't been in the business that long. I'm a corporate refugee so I will say to anyone you work hard. It's going to take you at least five years to start earning a living I mean a proper living And then you can build from there um and I went through that period from sort of 2006 to 2011 or so I was thrashing around in the shallow end just trying to find the direction trying to learn lessons learning What to do and what not to do? um But since uh for the past seven years, it's just been You know all the lessons learned have been applied But you have to learn the lessons yourself You cannot pay someone to Teach you the lessons you should learn by yourself. Otherwise you don't value them. I think Yeah, I I think it's a matter of there are certain professionals I won't mention any names, uh, but who know certain things that you got to know Uh, but people who have these marketing programs and stuff. It's like You know, it's all available if you go to the public library and how to do it. It's not anything new So that's pretty important You want to touch one of these people that says I did it. You can do it. I spend ages plowing through the internet Researching reading and reading not going on the facebook and saying how do I do it? Can you give me a client list? We've seen it. Yep pretty amazing Yeah, I got my guy got your client list right here, you know Anyway, we're talking with peter bishop who's president of world voices organization and uh And a pretty successful voice actor because he learned his lessons And if you've got a question for him again throw him in the chat room Paul Stefano was standing by to take your call or at least to take your question I'm going to pass that on to him in just in just a minute. Um One of the things that woevo does every year is we go and we hang out the tropicana Uh for a weekend. What's going on at woevo con this year? Sorry, I was just taking the water that was for me. Oh, okay It's vagus I can't say what happens in vagus stays in vagus Seriously, no, um We have we're developing a wonderful program. We have both Some big names from the likes of bob bergen doing master classes plus a lot of peer driven Sessions Names of people and people you know that they're friends. You know what they're good at Some of the e-learning experts will be there telling you About what they do how to do it I'll be doing something about going to the studios where you may not be used to going to them And that sort of thing. Um, but go on to the website. Look look at the list of presenters. I mean On the spot. I should have put the list in front of me. I didn't I I have I have it memorized. I know. Oh, you're good. I know two guys that are gonna be there Well, this is why I'm not an on-screen actor because I can't memorize anything. I need a script Yeah, and guess what it doesn't get me better as you get older As as I've discovered as being on stage a few times in the last few years Uh, yeah, no, george and I are gonna be there. Uh, it's also a great community event I mean as far as the voiceover community. I mean, there's stuff you can learn But like at some other conferences where there's all these set, uh, presentations Most of the activity and the fun and the good stuff at the at woevolkan goes on in the lobby Or uh around the bar, uh Where some of the most intense conversations are and it's a great way to make friends because boy, there are a lot of people who We just create such great friendships in this business and uh, and woevolkan's a great place to do that I always say to people there. They're generally Sweeping statement. There are two types of uh, conference. There's the one where you uh, go along to different panels with the usual suspects And there are others where it's more interactive there. There are workshops and sessions um woevolkan follows the The smaller you're working one-on-one with workshops and and uh Regular teaching sessions not we have a couple of panels. I think we've got the agents doing a panel and everyone loves agents, you know We always hope they're gonna give tips. Sign me up, please of course so Yeah, it's much more of a community driven thing and I just want to underline the fact that With all conferences, you only get out what you put in You don't don't turn up and say Well, come on Give it to me You've got to work with people. You've got to interact with people um As you say working in the corridors is The amazing thing most stuff happens there. You go to a session. You enjoy the session You catch the presenter afterwards and have a coffee with them or something. They'll be more than happy to spend time with you There's no separation between the attendees and The session leaders and that sort of thing Everyone's in it together. Um, it's the woevo community. Um, it's not an us and them situation at all Right and we talk about the organization and things that have to go on and uh, you know the business of what goes on um any any final thoughts on on One last statement on what you think the state of our industry is and then we'll we'll go go to a break and then People have the chance to ask you questions themselves Okay To put it simply I think there are Far more people making money from vio's than by doing vio at such a level now whether that's uh a p2p that's taking a large rake um, someone selling services over priced and useless There are too many people trying to get their hands into vio's wallets um now as I say from either a big multimillion dollar corporate level down to I'm a vio with two years experience. I'm going to sell classes um That's I think I I think we're our own worst enemy in a lot of ways um We say how there are Not enough jobs and the rates are going down But we're encouraging people to come in all the time and charge low rates So who's doing this to a certain extent? We are doing it to ourselves So we have to educate everyone about it Ooh All right, that's the way it should be All right, peter bishop is our guest. Uh, we're gonna get take your questions in just a couple minutes here So stay tuned. We'll be right back here on voice over body shop Skittles taste the rainbow She has fought for those who don't have a voice the national zoo Because sometimes you just need to stroke a llama Instagram Download it and start embarrassing your teenagers today resolve spot and stain Because the dog's gonna drag his butt on the carpet. He just is $400 million That's what the mayor wants you to pay for a new basketball stadium Chickens were made to be fried. 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Uh, yeah, as long as I don't want the truth Oh, well All right, as my dad says when he does his museum, uh tours He'll say you want the truth anything you want to know just let me know. I'll make something up. All right. Let's go go all right first question, um he says, uh Let's see here. Dave rosa asks What are your thoughts about waves plugins for voiceover? This one's this is a tech question No, that one's snuck in there. Yeah, I'll I mean since we read it. I'll answer real quick. Okay, um He's waves the deep breath, uh, yes, they do make the deep breath. Have you tried anything like that? No, I hate deep breathers. Yeah, I don't find one that works properly. Learn to breathe That helps a lot Well, I people really do try to automate breath removal and it's very difficult. Some people breathe in a very kind of consistent metered way and maybe for some projects that can work effectively I mean waves plugins. They're one of the biggies. I mean if you've tried voiceover recording and engineering at some point somebody's probably recommended one to you I personally find that the majority of the plugins out there that come with your software Do almost everything you need if not everything and so adding on a lot of third-party plugins Probably not really worth your while right now so I like yeah, I like rx Rx 6 I love the mouth to click. Yeah I use ios an addition and I just avoid making mouth clicks You know, you if you're able to do that at the source More power to always do it Uh, physically because all these things are physical or absolutely right. That is the right way whenever possible It certainly will save you trouble on the other end. Uh, thomas mation has a lot Yes, tom mation asks. He says wavos a pretty respected organization that has a huge host of professionals that can teach And are teaching. Well, I think we've established that Uh, is there a possible way to get a stamp of approval when someone is ready and certified to begin a career In uh, in coaching an area of vo in the future That's uh, an interesting one. Sure is the only thing we will certify Is the tech side, um, because that's quantifiable To become a professional member, I'll try that again to become a professional member. Um Again, it's quantified And it's the jobs you've done We do not judge people's voices Um, the quality of your audio the amount of work you've got Who am I to say whether your voice is ready for prime time? That's a judgment call. The only people that make that call are casting directors and agents and people like that people with checkbooks Um, I've heard some people on air Repeatedly that I think sound awful and I've seen I've heard demos of people who have never got a job that sound wonderful We do not judge people's ability to do it from a Oh my god, Gilbert Godfrey gets work, you know, and who would who would have guessed that? That's right On an award-winning show mind you Yeah, really So to actually We have codes of practice Things are quantifiable. We have tech specs which are quantifiable I I'm not going to say whether someone's got a good voice or not. That's That would be arrogant. I think Well, and we certainly don't do that. Yeah, and we do certify studios. George and I know about that because we're the ones that do it Well, we don't certify them. We approve them Yeah, neither of us are phds yet. So that's that's empirical measurement. Yes, you you can You can hear echoes. You can see a noise floor. I can hear it sometimes Um, but that's easy to judge and easy to measure and you can quantify the results Everything else is so subjective. Yeah, and and certifying coaches. I mean, everybody's got a different style I mean, how could you possibly do that as long as they're they're charging appropriately? I mean, you take a Coach that's doing something more than going through the numbers You're running to personality conflicts I know some coaches who are wonderful that I would not want to spend half an hour in a teaching situation with them Different people have different ways of learning different coaches have different ways of teaching as long as you're getting Value and you're progressing and they work for you As long as they're not just recycling a bunch of stuff That you can get up free off the internet and Then fine. Yeah. So yeah, I find that a lot a lot of coaches sometimes They may be trying to recreate you in their image as opposed to really understanding who you are And what your voice is like and what you can succeed at and I got man. You don't sound british enough try harder Hey We got a question right over here on the sofa. Yes, we actually have we have a live studio audience tonight audience Gerard requires with us who's been looking forward to meeting you bish Yeah, well, I'll definitely see you at the at the conference I'll definitely see you there as an australian voice over one of the world voices and Hopefully be able to help you guys, you know with your outreach to australia. I'm I'm pretty well connected over there so I can hopefully do that great, but I was actually Dan has has covered a lot of the questions I had he has a habit of doing that. He just jumps And asked what is probably the obvious question But I was just following up on that coaches and I was thinking about the world voices woevo giving people some comfort if they are going to go to a A coach like you were saying, you know, someone that's been doing it for two years that suddenly says, oh, I'm going to sell my services as a As a voice coach that it might be helpful for newbies to know that there are people there that Are creditable that are honest that will charge a reasonable rates I mean, I think there could be a way of quantifying that and it might be worth something that we could look at I I think the the best way and the way it works at the moment is we have free open and confidential Conversations on the woevo facebook group So people can ask pointed questions there and I think even if people go often Have private conversations about it. I think the recommendations from another member is probably worth its weight in gold And if a conversation can be had About if someone may ask I've seen this program that's available Uh from a coach blah blah blah. Has anyone gotten the opinions? Hopefully they'll get some comments some feedback But Again, it's it's difficult for us to In the same way, we can't say good vio bad vio. It's very difficult to say good coach bad coach Not so much that whether they're a good whether they're a good good coach or not But do they have qualifications to be able to coach? That's my point Every time this argument comes up There are some good coaches who have never been successful vios in the same way That what's the one the example people use? Tiger woods has a coach. I know it's probably about 10 year old example now, but Tiger woods his coach isn't uh an x pro Whatever at his level I've heard wonderful reports about certain coaches Who have never been a vio and I've heard terrible reports about successful vios who can't coach for toffee so What are the credentials? Do we fall into that those that can do those that can't teach? No, I think that's A ridiculous statement Do you need to have been a top level vio to teach someone vio? It's debatable I think that could be argued either way. I think there would be perfect examples of either case so Credentials what are credentials? If someone has worked with the royal opera house or whatever Make a good voice coach. They're a trained singer. They know how to get the best out of singers Can they transfer that skill over to voice? Probably but are these voice credentials? So I think it's a minefield actually, you know, I would think that probably The best way to determine who's a good coach is who are their clients Who are the people that they've worked with that are successful? And if they can't provide you with those Perhaps they're not somebody you want to work with, you know interesting. I mean, that's one way to vet I mean, it's it's gotten me the a lot of the clients that I have gotten Is because of the history of the clients I've gotten right if you look at my credentials I've done film mixing. I've done this I've done that But I didn't spend 20 years in a recording studio recording voiceover, you know, so it's it's Sometimes we we come to our clients from a different direction and we come in from a different angle and right, you know It's yeah, it's a difficult question That one that there probably isn't a concrete right answer to yet. Yep Alrighty Uh question from chris sharps Mr. Whittom Or is that chris sharp pays or sharpies sharp? I think it's sharp Okay, I like to go with come up with the most ridiculous pronunciation possible Peter what percentage of your work do you find is landed from agents and he goes on to say I tend to find that what auditions I receive from them is rarely in line with my british accent I'm on the east coast too, but do you find being in new york city is advantageous From an agency perspective So how's the agency booking ratio going? Okay, I have two new york specifically new york agents um Overall, I would say 20 percent of my work comes from agents and I would say five percent of my work is Actually necessitates me being able to hop on a train and going into manhattan It's very little. I I could move and it wouldn't make a big impact on my career Most of it. I found is time zone And having connectivity I have ISDN And I know they're one of the sponsors, but I love my source connect standard Which I think will be taking over as best investment I made Well, basically I had to because one of my big production houses was kicking ISDN out So proximity to new york I think its major influence on me is the ability to have my tagline an englishman in new york It doesn't sound quite as good an englishman in new york. Well 50 miles down out long island. It doesn't quite have the same ring um So apart from that I'm from the marketing and branding point of view my actual physical Proximity to new york Isn't that important the amount of work I get from my new york agents is absolutely minimal And the amount of work I get from agents in general Is about 20 percent Apart from the work I've I source myself most of the other stuff comes directly from production houses All right already. Thanks. We want an only bill lord. Yes bill lord question for you peter You said you came from the corporate world. How are you able to leverage those experiences to find success in vo? One thing people forget is the being a vo is a business um It's not glamour. It's not being an actor A lot of stage and screen actors have a manager that deals with all that stuff. We don't Have what some do In the corporate world, I was dealing with projects 90 95 million dollars Spreadsheets that were longer than the role of toilet paper multiple currencies Delivery schedules project management. I work with pert and gant charts all that stuff It just sits in the back of your brain. So um business skills negotiation skills um The ability to walk away from something without feeling regret about it because they didn't meet Your requirements for the job um To be able to argue the point. I mean, I've employed so many subcontractors over the years for airport projects um It's just learning how to deal with people on a business level not as a Flaky I'm a vo Let me speak for you so That helped uh, really. I mean decades doing that sort of thing working with people working with budgets um My whole premise the whole thing about putting these projects in it has to be on time and in budget And that becomes almost a mantra That's in your psyche and that's just how you approach Any business you're in so Yeah, it's business acumen. I don't know. It's I did it long enough. I don't even have to think about it It's just an attitude. Yeah. Yeah. Well, peter. It has been fabulous having you on looking forward to seeing you in In about a month and a half in vegas for uh, oh, yes We had a little panic earlier when we're looking at the stuff we need to have ready for You're panicking six weeks out boy. It must be a heck of a list Well, no, I was reflecting someone else's slight No, not that slight concern Okay, it's only six weeks away. I won't mention who He knows who she is and she's in the chat room And she and she and she's very good at what she does which is and it's actually been amazing because we've we've had a new staff really organizing the uh the convention this year and They've done a great job and picked up the pieces and uh, we're gonna have a great time It's gonna be a lot of fun. We are and it's vegas. So we won't tell anyone Exactly by the way facebook and instagram don't work in vegas. There's a there's a fire So you're fine Literally the firewall. It's like in front of the mirage. It comes comes up every every hour or so Anyway, peter. Thanks so much for being with us and good luck with all you're doing and thanks so much for Taking on the reins at woevo and for being you which I think is the most important part I can't be anyone else you know That I I can't play that game. All right I'll just thank you guys for having me on all right. Just continue to be good at being you Alrighty, thanks for being with us All right. Well, we got to wrap things up here in just a second or two So, uh, stay tuned. 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Yes, whether she hey she or her husband have a nice studio there and she teaches and she's very successful And we'll talk about her career and we'll talk about what she teaches And we'll find out what goes on in Vegas If she if she's allowed to tell context we can share that's right On uh, october 15th october already. Oh my goodness, uh adam verner will be with us He's a great audiobook narrator based in colorado. I've been to his studio. I helped him design the place a bit And uh, we'll get maybe a little feedback as to how that all went and what it's like doing voiceover in your garage With a whole family of little kids running around Hopefully they won't be running. Well, maybe they will be running around On 10 22, uh bill ratner one of the all time big voices here in hollywood Big voice in a lot of ways. Yeah big personality big voice The whole like he he's been involved closely with aftra and now sag after for years. 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So we we're giving our long Long with us for a very long time loyal A transcriber jack to go jack to kolia Some some downtime as we see how that works out and we really appreciate all the time he put into it Which was enormous. Yeah, uh, let's see if you uh, you want to listen to the podcast You can get it anywhere. Hmm anywhere. There's podcast and itunes stitcher. We're on pod bean And you can't watch the show you want to listen in your car while you're driving, you know between Padunk, Missouri. It's not in illinois Um, a dunk a dunk a dunk. Yeah, and if you're taking a long trip You can listen to the it's an entire show and go god. That's fascinating If you like instagram, I finally made an instagram account for my business at george the tech I just because you I guess I kind of have to so There'll be pictures and quips and stuff from studios I've worked on so go check it out Yeah, if you want to be live in the studio like Gerard maguire was tonight You can just email us at the guys at v obs dot tv and say audience in the subject line And uh, we might actually let you in here. Uh, let's see here. Uh, show us your booths That's right. You know here. We have joe sip riano's booth His temp booth a temp booth Which is doing fine form for for the time being because he's joe sip riano Yes, I mean the guy does a great in the backseat of a car recording spots Spots, so I think he'll be okay with our temp studio. Absolutely Uh, let's see. So we need to thank our sponsors, of course like harlin hogan's voiceover essentials voiceover extra Source elements vo to go go voice actor websites.com and j. 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Yeah, really just a little that wasn't her fault That was my fault tonight, but that's a whole other story Uh, thanks again to jack de golly for all his work on the show notes and lee penny simply for being lee penny Well, that's gonna do it for us tonight We thank you for your patience and we thank you for joining us and we thank you for loving the voiceover business We're here to help and make sure that you get it right because when it sounds right It is right and we're here to help you do that. I'm dan lennard and i'm george witter And this is voiceover body shop or vo Be us. Have a great week everybody. Bye