 And when I was able to be with Pimp and see how he does his stage performance, the very first time we were with Pimp C and he had a show, he walked out on stage and he said, Jay-Z, Jay-Z you don't ride on blades and the music dropped. Yeah, we on Boss Talk 101, 101. Yeah, we gonna talk. It's still a show. TV ain't got no temperature. He gonna always say the show, so I definitely, I'm Pimp C no matter what. And I'll still argue with somebody today that Atlanta's not the South because it's on East Coast time. Oh, you really go there? I go there because I support Pimp. I support Bun. It's what we do, you know. It might be a little cuckoo, but he had a logic to it. You're like, when you get off the plane, what time is it? Different time zone. What time is the East Coast? Well, there you go. Right? It was just one of those things that, you know, it was just what Pimp did. It was what Pimp and Pimp taught so much. He was like, you know, you got, he was talking about females at the time. He was like, Stop right, let me just say this. He say, we all know Atlanta is the South. He didn't say this, so you can't just stop right there. You know, he knew that because he's how you still live in Atlanta. So when you think about it, he really just trying to do what it takes to whip you in shape. The biggest thing that I got out of that when he was having that argument was the fact of how people don't tell about the bad side. They always tell about, you know, the money and they were celebrating so much back then. Everything was about the movement of the money. They didn't tell about when you got busted and your mama had to go to that prison and all that good. So we know about that. Well, Bun did say, put everything in your mama's name. Put your cars in your crib and your mama. Mama, now he did. He did. Let me tell you. And listen, that was a blueprint for my brother and myself. You know, we really got an education from his exposure to the street life. And it was that, it was that blueprint, you know. And that was one of the things why we even started hustling and being in music in the first place was because of UGK. Like the first studio we recorded out of was Bernie and Chaturro in Missouri City. And the whole reason we recorded out of there is because this young little African mother and she was a co-producer on Tell Me Something Good. They recorded Tell Me Something Good. And when I told Bernard, hey, I know a studio where they recorded UGK at. We just went to just look to see if it was like a real deal thing. Y'all have a studio in Houston? Like, and it's not rap a lot. Like, where can I go and get in this place? Like, how do I get introduced to this lady named Bernie? Like, what's going on? And they ended up doing like South Park, Mexican and a couple of other people that came up out of, you know, that area. But yeah, that was one of the whole reasons we even went to Bernie and Chaturro because they made a UGK record. Let's go back to the PMC. I want to ask about this PMC. You meeting him the first time. Yeah, that was crazy. Like, like, where are we all at? Let's go all the detail into that. I was on tour promoting the album by prescription only. And my brother being my babysitter, AK, my manager, he gets a phone call from Mama Monroe. And she gets on the phone and she says, you can call me Mama or you can call me Miss Monroe, but you can't call me by my first name. You're just not old enough, right? You can't call me West. And that kind of set the tone with my brother. And she said, Chad wants to talk to your brother. Can he come by the condo? And at this time, he's telling me this. I think it's a prank call. I was like, all right, man, who's pulling your leg, right? Who's pulling your leg, right? So we get the directions and we go over to the condo and Miss Monroe opens the door and we walk in the condo. Chad wasn't there. And she said, would y'all like to have a drink? Chad's on his way home. Two and a half hours later after being there, we get a phone call. It's Chad. He's in route, but he wants me to go and look in his room, right? And I'm like, okay, this is kind of like, okay, what's up with this? Walk upstairs. I go into his room. He says, look on the side of my bed. No, he said, look on my bed. And I was like, man, I see some nice sheets. And he was like, well, look on the side of my bed. And it was my by prescription only CD. Wow. And he was like, man, that boy's in the hood is my jam. Bang in UGK front, back and side to side. Because white boys in your hood are all so cool. And he was like, that's my jam. He was like, I'll be there in 30 minutes. When he walked in the door, we half, you know, dabbed up, took me right upstairs. We smoked. And it was just a, how much can I learn from this guy in this period of time? Because I don't know when I'm going to be back in this situation. Wow. This is like meeting Elvis to me. Like the holy ground has opened up, right? Wow. And from that night on, you know, if there is a show he wants us to ride in his limo. If there was a place that we're going to be at, we're going to be with him. If there's an opportunity to record a song, I would follow him studio to studio until I had my opportunity to, you know, work with him. And they were knocking out three songs a day because he was about to go get locked up. So that was my first experience of meeting Chad, Pepsi. And it was just, you know, I can only describe it as meeting, you know, they say, never meet your idols, never meet your idols. You know, they'll never measure up. Not only did Pepsi measure up, it was like a blessing because the guy I was emulating, which I truly was, because I didn't have my own voice then, was Pimp C. I wanted to be like Pimp C and Bun B. Those were my musical idols. And when I was able to be with Pimp and see how he does his stage performance, the very first time we were with Pimp C and he had a show, he walked out on stage and he said, fuck Jay-Z. Jay-Z don't ride on blades. And the music dropped. What? I was just, I was like, whoa, like, where are we? Like, what's going on? Like, I'm like, you know, I'm the only white guy on stage. Now I'm off to the side. Where was y'all that? We was in Houston on Richmond. I can't remember the name of the club, but it used to be an old strip club that turned into a club and back into a strip club. Back, I can't remember the name. I'm sure my brother wouldn't know the name because it's probably close to a restaurant. But anyway, yeah, that happened. And what did you think? What did you say? What was your, what was your mentality at that point? I was like, this is the greatest entertainer of my generation. What did the crowd say? They were with him. Pimp could walk into a room and it was his audience from the minute from the word go. But what made him say that? It was, you know- Was it the Tupac thing? Was it- I can't speculate on what Pimp's thoughts were, but I know there was some things where like, Bunby had did his part of the verse already and they were waiting on Pimp C to do his part. This was during that time. Yeah, and so I don't think that, well, this was right after that time. He was actually performing Big Pimp and all that other stuff. But there was some animosity between him and whether, you know, hey, Jay-Z don't fuck with Poc like, and I really ride with Poc and Poc's my guy. Yeah, I've heard that. I've heard him say that. It was like, hey, listen, you know, he was gonna set the tone and he was like, Jay-Z don't ride on Blaze. And we were just like, whoa, what happened here? Like, where are we at, you know? But it was one of those things that he made that statement and that's where he was, and that's where he stood at. Wow. Bun on the other hand, he has great relationships with Jay-Z. Love Jay. Love him. Like- Rock with him. Like from what I understood, Jay picked Bun up in the Bentley, took him where he needed to go. They went and filmed, you know, on location. They did, they did. Chad went to Miami, would have brought you there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, you know, the story goes, you know, he's wearing his mink and they're like, man, it's hot as shit out here. What you going, why aren't you wearing a mink? Man, TV ain't got no temperature. And that's- That sounded like Bill. That's the same pimp that said, Jay-Z, Jay-Z don't ride on Blaze. Like, I'm like, all right. He just was, do you feel like he just was, was like, what do you feel like he was just, he just expressed himself how we felt at the moment? I think that just comes part of being a great entertainer. You don't wear anything, you know, you don't hold anything close to the vest, you just let it all out there. And I think that's just what he did. He just let it out.