 Everyone we've posted this in three places I see our we need a new school project for the board outside there that looks like the wind took its on the website posted it and emailed to interested parties so we can move forward legally with this meeting prior meeting minutes of February 28 I wasn't here's Pat here was in it so you two can approve those if you so desire I saw one I believe minor correction to paragraph that starts with West Hill bridge I think it's the Eastern lot not Easter lot other than that I've read them and I second that okay all in favor all right you got those we have Tony Page as a guest but he's not is he on zoom no no okay all right we'll see maybe he'll throw show up later so on the new business the first item we have is the consideration and possible approval of a necessity resolution for refinancing the Randolph National Bank fire station promissory note if you want to give a little background on yeah okay it's an addition to the to the agenda yeah thank you I was hoping that we could take a moment and hear from Tim Patterson from Sun Common he has taken a look at the what might be involved to utilize battery storage for emergency backup functions at the the town office yeah yeah he's he present on on zoom there he is present and accounted for all right well I did I did send all of the there are three estimates I sent Tim's email and the three estimates that he's provided for us if you haven't seen it it should be in your email yeah all right well since he's here and doesn't need to hear the whole rest of the meeting why don't we let you guys take the floor great thank you really appreciate the opportunity to join you as Jeffrey said I'm Tim Patterson I'm from Craftsbury Vermont and work at Sun Common consulting on solar and energy storage projects I won't take too much of your time I thought I'd just do a quick overview of what battery and solar could bring to the town office in terms of resilience and savings and then I'd be happy to field questions the gist is that I understand like many Vermont municipalities that you have some funding available for backup power and oftentimes you know that means a generator batteries are getting to the point where they are competitive with a generator different in in some ways and can work as a standalone alternative to a generator or in combination with with a generator basic advantage of batteries is that they go on automatically when the power goes out it's instantaneous you know sometimes you might notice the lights flicker just a tiny bit but otherwise it's a seamless transition there's no sound there's no emissions and they just kind of sit next to the breaker box doing their thing the advantage to a generator of course is that as long as it has fuel it can run forever whereas batteries will get drained down over time if you do have solar on site in addition to batteries then those batteries can recharge directly from the solar panels you've got a nice south-facing lot good south-facing standing seam roof it seems that there could be solar on the roof say good I see the maybe it might need some work yeah we had that we've done yeah we had somebody actually yeah we had this roof structure analyzed for that very purpose and they was deemed unsuitable not not strong enough to without significant re reworking of it to hold that because we had that thought about solar on this roof because it is facing south with no obstruction but but anyway go on that's the the potential of the resiliency zone that green mountain power has been contemplating where the solar field relatively close to the downtown area would probably be the you know the source of any kind of input to the battery bank I would think versus trying to put something on the roof yeah yeah well that's certainly helpful to know about the roof structure you know sometimes Google Maps doesn't tell you everything no but if those solar panels from the green mountain power resiliency zone are close enough to be able to provide that backup to the town office then that really is advantageous for the prospect of battery backup because there'd be those panels able to just recharge the batteries directly in the event of a longer-term grid outage cost-wise you know I sent over some initial estimates and there are some incentives available but you know I know you have a stacked agenda tonight and I want to be respectful of your time so I can kind of pause there and field questions or present a little bit further if if you'd like me to do so. So those estimates with the first one was that including roof panels? Yep I sent over three all have three batteries we installed the powerwall batteries and three of those it seemed would be enough to provide at least 24 hours of backup without any recharging from the solar so the first estimates just if we come in and do that with no incentives it's about $26,000 for those batteries if we do that in also access incentives tax credits which may be available from municipalities depending on what legislation looks like later this year and GMP green mountain power incentives that takes that price all the way down less than $10,000 for the same three batteries then if we were to add solar you know roof mount might not be an option that's the one that I plugged in then you start to see you know savings on the electric bill moving forward and really the best option in terms of cash flow is if you spread out the cost of the project over time and then let it pay itself back from the savings on the electric bill you know that's if the if the solar is part of the picture as well and long batteries good for yeah how long do the batteries last not for charge but how many years of life do they have in a 20 years 20 months? Well the warranty is 10 yep so any calculation I would say probably stick to that warranty period just to be safe they could let well last longer 10 years is the warranty the warranty is 10 years what kind of batteries are they? they're we installed Tesla power wall batteries so the same sort of battery pack that you would find in a Tesla car I would know about that are they are they lithium or they are yep yeah okay lithium yeah they're they're pretty expensive yeah three or 24,000 for 10 years well just the batteries but oh it's just three batteries I guess we just take it under advisement yeah if anyone else had any questions up on the zoom land yeah we looked at it well I appreciate you coming in and bringing this information to us between the investigation we've been doing for standard you know fossil fuel backup generator and then the green mountain power talking about creating a resiliency zone for the downtown area and and this information there's a lot lot floating around about you know backup power that most recent experience I've had within here was during Irene when I don't know who dragged their generator out of the garage and stuck in the parking lot but it it did the it was very helpful to have that some this is our emergency management center so it's it's definitely brought up the topic of of having a you know backup backup power here in terms of the pricing I know that the town has you know requested that we consider environmental concerns with all of our decisions the it looks like the the most current quote we have from Brookfield services after the rebates and the grant money that we have set aside it's going to cost us under a couple thousand dollars to get a fossil fuel setup which is money always seems to take a play in things I would think that even if we did get this go with the fossil fuel setup that doesn't preclude in the future still expanding into a battery system in addition to that if the incentives come forth and it's easily done so so happen this information is is is helpful and we appreciate it. Great, thank you for your time. Yeah, and Jeff, thank you for pursuing this and then keeping us on you know looking forward to appreciate really your energy efforts. Yeah, well thank you. Tim did point out too that the the batteries in conjunction with the generator could also the feasible way of doing this if the first line of defense was the battery and then if that was exhausted we could then go off of the generator but I think that that does have an impact on one of the incentives that the batteries have to be solar generated for the green mountain power one I believe that's correct. Yeah, the other thing about the other thing about the town office we do have a service disconnect in the corner of the building right now and we have underground wiring from that to the current solar array that's not functioning in the parking area so it is potential there could potentially be a hookup to that conduit for say a carport kind of rack that could have a southern face and and people could park underneath but that's that's just another thought with with respect to this we could not get from GMP yet they range as to how long the resiliency zone will cover the village that's obviously going to be arranged because it's a load dependent right so without that it makes this analysis a little bit more difficult you know if we had a fairly long buffer with the resiliency zone then this could work quite well but just just bringing those to the fore and continue to think about it. Great. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Thanks, Tim. Yeah, appreciate you taking the time to sit at your desk and sign it to zoom. I'm driving to Rochester. Yeah, thank you for your time and interest and I wish you a swift recovery. Yeah, good evening. Yeah. So, Julie, you want to give us a little background around this refinancing the fire station? Sure. So I was looking into the fire station moan it's currently 3.95 and through our bank, Mascoma, the town uses we can get it for 2.6 we have about 168,000 left on the loan it's 11 years so going with the lower rate would save the town about a little over 14,000. It's worth signing some papers to do I think. I think so. Yeah. The term on the new. Yeah, could you repeat it? So the current currently there's 11 years it's about 168,000 a little over and it's 3.95 if we go with Mascoma who has offered 2.6 the loan still at 11 year term would save us about a little over 14,000. Okay, so you're getting an 11. Okay. Is there anything involved in appraisal or anything like that going on? Or is it just a quick flip? Just a quick flip. Oh, excuse me. Oh, sorry. Go ahead. Julie, could you please repeat if you switched to Mascoma also for 11 years it would save a little over. How much was the total? Well, 14,000. 14,000 at what by going to what percent to do with 2.6. Thank you very much. Sorry for some reason. I just didn't hear that. I apologize. Thank you. I can't see any reason not to do that. Can't see any reason not to do it. No, I died. Yeah, thanks for thinking of that. So we basically and we need to execute a resolution for refinancing. Yes, Jim. Yep. Yep. So I would move to approve that resolution. I second that. And all in favor. I need to help us. Pat Harvey saying I because I'm on zoom. Okay. Thank you. Good work, Julie. Yeah. Yeah, appreciate it, Jules. Yeah, that might offset some of the increased fuel costs in my experience. Yeah, we guess that came in just after the budget season. We may not get any savings on. Let's hope so. Pretty rough riding down the road. Yeah. What was it, 59 cents? Yeah, I know the roads, they're still going to do it. So they say. They've only had to think about it for a couple of weeks. Okay. This is three, four, two, three, one. All right. So, so that's the promissory note that I just signed right there. I think the proposal from just a year. Okay. All right. Um, so we have from, I'll break that until we talk with her, where is that we have a grant agreement resolution for the Rochester High School repurposing study. We needed to sign some paperwork around. Accessing that grant money, I believe. That's it. There I go. Too much sign here. Sorry. So the, um, did we already approve this? Is this another approval of the, that's Joan would know. This is, this is about the high school repurposing. I thought we'd already done that, but there's just more. There's more paperwork around it. There, therefore being it resolved that the select legislative body of this municipality accepts and agrees to the terms and conditions of said grant agreement and that we're who are we, um, designating as the person with overall administrative responsibility for the activities in the grant agreement. This is actually the, um, under the auspice of the committee that's investigating this. Is this the 60,000? Yeah, the 50. I thought we'd done that too. Yeah. I think victory is just recent. And the dates between. Come here and 28. Yeah. Here's the grant agreement and PM one that needs to be formally accepted and signed by the select board at their next meeting. So this is just, um, basically more and this is from Tori. So yeah, it's the paperwork involved with the grants and that's why we have two rivers to help navigate all this stuff. So I would move to formally, um, accept these, this grant agreement. I second that on favor. All right. I had our recess. Yep. And I see that you, um, okay. All right. Um, we have a liquor license here from the, uh, max market. Okay. This is separate than the golf course done. So we have a application from max belly market for a second class liquor license. I'd move to approve that. I second that. All in favor. All right. All right. Okay. Okay. Okay. So we also have here, um, topic of golf course dining. That was, I think what Tony Page wanted to talk about and he had called me about that and he is looking into re-energizing the restaurant at the golf course. Um, and he's working through the paperwork to do that. That's nothing that this board has a say over other than approving or disapproving a liquor license, but we do not have an application for that yet. I don't think he's at that point. So, um, something fun is happening on zoom. It looks like always past got a new puppy. All right. June. Yeah. Would it be okay to say that you, you said that Tony Page is looking into re-energizing the restaurant at the golf course, or should I just not mention it all since Tony's not here tonight? I wouldn't answer that. Yeah. I don't, I don't know if you need to mention yet. I'd wait and let him present that. Okay. All right. I won't say it. Sorry. Just wanted to make sure. Thank you. Yeah. All right. Um, Joan, um, whatever you got for us. I see we have a certificate certification of compliance for town road and bridge standards and network inventory. That is, um, and this time we do meet the minimum requirements. So this is, um, okay, we do have an up to date highway network inventory, which identifies location size, deficiencies, condition of roads, bridges, causeways, culverts, and highway related retaining walls in class one, two, and three town highways. All right. Um, do you have anything to, to, um, add to that? Uh, no, this is the certificate that, you know, we sign every year, uh, about a year, um, along with updating, um, various town officials and their content information. Um, as I mentioned in my email to you, the, um, the budget that we give the financial plan is what they call it, uh, is something that we'll do after the budget has been approved that town meeting. And then I can use that. And I, uh, the folks at V trance say they do want plan to have an annual meeting with us. Um, I don't think they've done it for the past two years. Um, or if they did, I don't remember it. Um, and I'm not sure if they'll actually make it this year, um, I guess it's not a requirement, but it's something that's always nice to have if people have the time for it. Um, yeah, it won't, it won't, uh, if it doesn't happen for a while, it won't prevent us from going ahead with applications in the middle of April. So we're all set with that. All right. All right. So this doesn't really need a, um, emotion. This is basically just us signing it to certify that we, um, we've reviewed it and then agree with it. Is that correct? Yes. Right. And I have to return those to V trance. Yep. Yep. You there. And what else should we got to share with us tonight, Jones? Uh, not much. Um, when, uh, the generator, that fossil fuel thing, uh, comes up, uh, later in the agenda, um, we can talk about that. But that's, uh, mostly frank leading that discussion. Otherwise, I really don't have anything else I need to report. Right. Hi. And, um, we don't have anyone on zoom representing the library tonight. Do we? No. Nope. And, um, nobody from the highway. Terry, you got anything on the utilities front that you want to talk about? Nope. Nope. Steady as she goes. Um, Jeff might be changing pumping outfits. Oh, yeah. I'm looking at saving close to $700 of pumping. I guess I'm waiting for a phone call back. Yeah. Cool. Looks like I'm changing probably save a little money. Yeah. Sounds good. Or having a money saving competition. That's a good idea. Jeff, did you have anything more that you wanted to talk about beyond our earlier presentation? Um, not much, but yes, uh, was contacted by a woman who has, um, business up in Waitesfield and she is interested in purchasing the old firehouse to roast coffee beans in and then ship back up to Waitesfield. Yep. I think I talked to that guy. I, um, yeah, I don't think we're putting that up for sale right now, but, um, yeah, there's a few people have their eye on that place, but it's, it's proved to be kind of, kind of, um, convenient for the town to still hold on to that. So, but, um, just passing it on. Yep. Nope. Not appreciate it. Appreciate it. Um, so did you want to, um, talk more about the generator and wonder, I think that we've, we've kind of made up our mind on that as far as, um, awarding the grant to, uh, Brookfield services, um, we're still going to have to pony up some money because of the conditions of the way that everything's working now and they give you a price for so much and, you know, we had it a year ago that when we got these initial bids and that's what the grant was figured on and all the bids came in over that, but we're pretty close, uh, to, uh, awarding that to, uh, Brookfield services for $12,346. Um, and we'll have to pony up the rest. It's really just about like $1,600. $1,600, $1,646. So roughly includes the installation in the, in the gas and all that. So, um, I, that's the way I'm looking at it. You and Pat maybe have other, you know, ambitions, but that's the way I think we should go. That's what I'm recommending. Like the most reasonable, some of the other quotes were pretty, um, pretty, um, out there. They were steep. Yeah. They were steep. And I, oh, the generator, yeah, it was a generator for the town office. That's what you said, right? Right. It's correct. Right. Okay. Thank you. I just wanted to make sure I, to correct. I'm sorry. Excuse me. And I, um, I think it's important that we note that this doesn't preclude, um, future. Possibility of batteries or, or then to the extent to which if this resiliency zone does come to be that, that will be our first line of backup. But to, um, I think it's wise to, to cover all the bases here and go with this. And, and plus I think down the road, we're looking, we're going to have to make some serious decisions on our building here anyway, as far as whether we want to energy efficient this place or do some work. It needs some attention as far as it's conditioned and goes. So I think for any permanent fixes, I think it's, it needs to address the whole thing and not just piece it out. So I think it's the right move to make it this time for the community. So I support it. So that's the way I look at it. So we don't have that specifically listed under old business as awarding that grant. But, um, I think that it's pretty clear. I mean, we've had it on the agenda and past meetings and said that we were going to evaluate the bids and make the decision. So I don't, I don't think it's unreasonable to go ahead and make that award that grant. Now, if we're going to bend the rules a little bit. What do you think is going to wait much on? Yeah, the way the prices are just going to go up. So, well, as it is, we're on a 30 day notice for that anyway, and we're, we're crowding it. So, so I actually that that bid was good for 30 days and counted it out and 30 days was as of yesterday. So hopefully we can get back to them. We can get back to them really, you know, in the next couple of days, they will not hold us to that. Pat, you got some input? Yeah, my husband was a sub for one of the bidders. So I'm going to recuse myself on the decision. OK, all right. Well, I'd move to award the bid to Brookfield Service and notify them as soon as possible. So we still in that hopefully 30 day window. I second that. All in favor. All right. OK. Yeah. Doona Frank, what we need to do next is is to sign that one document, you know, where they broke out everything that letter they sent along with the rest of the package and with a deposit of three thousand dollars. It's probably not. Is it in there? Yeah, we'll be sure to get that signed today. Yeah. OK. And then if you could, Frank, will you contact Brookfield or do you want me to do it? Why don't you take that? OK, then I'll just need to. So so you'll mark off the those extra items that you decided you want to include in the yes. OK. Yeah, we'll do that on the on the original. OK, thank you. OK. Yeah, thank you. All right. I'd like to just say one thing. I did have a phone conversation with Chris Bump and I asked about the paving for the summer if they're even going to consider it due to the high fuel prices. And he said it's all still a bill. I would think so. And they're they're planning on starting in the first around the first of April or along that line, depending on the weather. And they plan on doing the covert starting in Stockbridge, moving to hopefully get to the village by June 1st. And so that's when they'll be tearing up the village as far as the underdrains and all that. Yeah. So we're also going to meet with them in April at some point. It'll be the paving engineer and Chris Bump to go over the village. And I'd like Terry to be there to, you know, talk about the all the risers he has to deal with. And we can discuss on how the paving is going to come out or whether the town is going to be liable for any of that to even out things in the in the yards and spread the paving out a little further depth in front of the church and from the skip mark down through to the hardware and along the Max Way and the in the cafe and down through to your place in front of the old firehouse down by the parkhouse and all that to see how that's all going to work and if the town's going to have any responsibility there. So we'll have to keep that in mind. Yes. So but that's all still ago. And also requested a notice to two rivers that they're going to do a traffic study on Bethel Mountain roads in with the idea of lowering the speed limit down to 40 to coincide with Bethel just to make it even all the way through. And hopefully we'll deter some of the truck traffic that goes over there when they look at their GPS. And see that it's changed to 40. It'll add time to it. So maybe they'll look for a different way to go. So all right. Any other old business sets? We get the firehouse together. Air air compressor. Yeah. Lastly, or two weeks ago set up so it's pretty impressive. You know, yeah, I mean, we had a guy came up to teach us how to run it and he was there for two and a half hours. Well, cool. Have you got it all figured out? Yeah, it's not that bad. No, it's actually easier in a little yeah. Yeah, it's safer. Yeah, yeah, safer. A lot safer. How long is it take to fill the tank? Well, he's recommended not hours of twenty two sixteen with the pressure on him. And he's saying we shouldn't fill it at a rate of six hundred PSI per minute. So about three, four minutes for one tank. But we can fill three at a time. Oh, well, yeah. But he said if you had a fire call, you know, you're going to feel more faster. But when you're feeling faster, it stresses the air bottles. But also when they cool back down, you lose they'll only be like three quarters full. Oh, OK, so yeah. Because it expands much and then cool back down. So he is very, very good. Cool. All right. Well, congratulations. That took a while to get that. But you get it. You want to go back to 70,000? You want to say anything about that? Well, under that price, we don't need to. But we do have some. Yeah, we could talk about we got. And is this guy's insured enough that we can hire him? Signed out. He has announced it now. I have to check on the workers. But he has the others. Yeah, OK. No, it's none. We've got a couple of quotes for some glass cleaning on some of the town's buildings, one of spotless glass and the other one, Brian's home services. So we're not not big chunks of money, but. Yeah, it's a little spring cleaning. Yeah, yeah. I'm not sure who we're going to give it to yet. And I still have to check insurance and stuff. So that's not big dollars, not a big deal. The other thing we're going to Easter this year. Oh, Easter is happening this year. All right. Yeah. Thank you, breakfast. Good. There will not be a bunny. Not be a bunny. Yeah, there is. No. Terry, if Terry, if you could email me or call me and give me the general info about that Easter breakfast, I can put a little something in the paper if you'd like. Yeah, Kevin, I'll get it to you, Martha. OK, thank you. Thank you. All right. Yeah, great. All right. Awesome. Well, I think that unless we have any other comments from the public out there. That's it. Dog licenses. Dog license. I do April 1st. And we will be at a clinic on March 23rd at the Hancock Fire Department. From five to seven. And we'll be there to license. OK. All right. And I guess we'll end this meeting by going to the dogs. We've got the dog on the zoom. We've got the dog license notification. I got a smile from Pat and everybody in Zoom works like they're all set to. So OK, thank you all. Thanks. Take care. We'll be here next week. Have a good evening, everybody. And thank you for any questions. Pre-town meeting next. Yeah, pre-town meeting there next week. That's next week. Yeah. OK. Night.