 40 here? Probably wondering 40 what the hell are you doing? Well I'm sitting in the morning sun and I'll be sitting when the evening come. Watching the ships roll in and then I watch them roll away again. Yeah I'm sitting on the dock of the bay watching the tide roll away. Oh I'm just sitting on the dock of the bay wasting some time. I left my home in Los Angeles and I headed for the Sydney Bay so I've had nothing to live for and look like nothing's gonna come my way. So I'm sitting on the dock of the bay wasting time. Looks like nothing's gonna change everything still remains the same. I can't do what 10 people tell me to do so I guess I remain the same yeah. So I'm just sitting here resting my bones in this loneliness it won't leave me alone. It's 2,000 miles plus 10,000 miles I roamed just to make this dock my home. So I'm just oh man now I'm wet. So now I'm just gonna sit at the dock of the bay watching the tide roll away sitting on the dock of the bay wasting time. Okay have you heard about the Sam Bankman freed FTX scandal and where have you heard about the name Bankman and Freed? Remember I did a big interview with Ronnie Gouldman who wrote a memoir about the Stanford Law Star Chamber and he talked about the duplicitous dealings you received from Stanford Law professors Barbara Freed and Joe Bankman. Well you'd never guess who their son is. It's Sam Bankman Freed. He is the child of these two eminence Stanford Law professors. Let's go to the news Associated Press. Come on guys I'm trying to do a podcast here stop getting me wet. The downfall of FTX's Sam Bankman Freed sends shock waves through the crypto world. New York Sam Bankman Freed received numerous plaudits as he rapidly achieved superstar status as the head of cryptocurrency exchange FTX. He was the savior of crypto the newest force in democratic politics and potentially the world's first trillionaire. Now the comments about the 30 year old Bankman Freed range from being used to hostile after FTX filed for bankruptcy protection Friday leaving his investors and customers feeling duped many others in the crypto world fearing the repercussions. Bankman Freed himself could face civil or criminal charges and we have Jeremy Allaire co-founder and CEO of cryptocurrency company Circle says I've known him for a number of years and what just happened is shocking shocking. Come on guys keep keep the water down I'm trying to do a podcast. I'm not sure my chief Aussie phone is waterproof. Under Sam Bankman Freed FTX quickly grew to be the third largest exchange by volume. A stunning collapse of this nation empire sent tsunami-like waves through the cryptocurrency industry. I turned hard against crypto about two years ago. So crypto has seen the fair share of volatility and turmoil this year including a sharp decline in price of Bitcoin and other digital assets for some. The events are reminiscent of the domino-like failures of Wall Street firms during the 2008 financial crisis particularly now that supposedly healthy firms like FTX are failing. One venture fund wrote down investments in FTX worth over 200 million dollars. Cryptocurrency lender BlockFI first paused client withdrawals Friday after FTX sought bankruptcy protection. Single court based exchange Crypto.com so withdrawals increased this weekend for internal reasons. Some of the action could be attributed to raw nerves from FTX. Sam what have you done tweeted Sean Ryan Evans host of the cryptocurrency bankless after the bankruptcy filing. The Sam Bankman Freed right the son of two eminent Stanford law professors and his company are under investigation by the Department of Justice and the Securities and Exchange Commission. The investigation is likely centred on the possibility that the firm may have used customers and deposits to fund bets at Bankman Freed's hedge fund Alameda Research violation of US securities law. So Patrick Hillman Chief Strategy Officer at Binance FTX's biggest competitor says this is the direct result of a rogue actor breaking every single basic rule of fiscal responsibility. Early last week Binance appeared ready to step into bailout FTX but backed away after review of FTX's books dealt with impact of FTX's bankruptcies uncertain this value will likely result in the destruction of occurrences at a time when the industry could use a verge of confidence when someone provide a verge of confidence for crypto. Corey Clipston CEO of Swan Bitcoin who for months was raising concerns about FTX's business model says I care because it's retail investors who suffer the most I always thought it was women and minorities to suffer the most and because too many people still wrongly associate Bitcoin with the scamming crypto space. Clipston is publicly enthused asking about Bitcoin but has long had deep skepticism about other parts of the crypto universe. Bankman Freed founded FTX in 2019 and grew it rapidly it was recently valued at 32 billion. The son of Stanford University law professors who is known to play the video game League of Legends during meetings. Bankman Freed attracted investments from the highest echelons of Silicon Valley. Sequoia Capital, which over the decades invested in Apple, Cisco, Google, Airbnb and YouTube, described their meeting with Bankman Freed as likely talking to the world's first trillionaire. Several of Sequoia's partners became enthusiastic after Bankman Freed following a Zoom meeting in 2021. Several more meetings Sequoia decided to invest in the company. I don't know how I know I just do. Sam Bankman Freed is a winner for Adam Fisher a business journalist who wrote a profile of Bankman Freed for the firm. That article published in late September has now been removed from Sequoia's website. Sequoia has written down its $213 million investment to zero. Pension Fund Inertaria Canada wrote down its investment to zero as well. Till last week Bankman Freed was seen as a white knight to the crypto industry. Whenever the crypto industry had one of its crises, Bankman Freed was the person likely to fly in with a rescue plan. When online trading platform Robinhood was in financial straits earlier this year collateral damage from the decline in stock and crypto crises, Bankman Freed jumped in to buy a stake in the company as a sign of support. What a man! When Sam Bankman Freed brought up the assets of bankrupt crypto firm Voyager Digital for $1.4 billion this summer, brought a sensible leap to Voyager account holders whose assets have been frozen since its own failure. I'm trying to run a come on guys I'm trying to run a very respectable podcast here. Please keep the water disruption to a minimum. Particularly as my Australian cheap Oppo phone is not waterproof. FTX is fairly established. The cryptocurrency news outlet Coindesk published a story based on a leaked balance sheet from Alameda Research. The story found the relationship between FTX and Alameda Research with deeper and more entwined than previously known, meaning that FTX was lending high quality quantities of its own token FTT to Alameda to help build up cash, sparked mass withdrawals from FTX causing the crypto firm to experience a very old financial problem a bank run. FTX created a worthless token out of thin air and used it to make its balance sheet appear more robust than it really was. As king of crypto Sam Bankman Freed and his influence was starting to pour into political and popular culture. FTX bought prominence for sponsorships with Formula One racing. They bought the naming rights to an arena in Miami for the Miami Heat. They ran Super Bowl ads featuring Seinfeld created Larry David. He pledged to donate one billion toward Democrats this election cycle. The actual donations were tens of millions of dollars. Prominent politicians like Bill Clinton provided a speak at FTX conferences. Football star Tom Brady invested in FTX as did his supermodel soon to be ex-wife Giselle Bunchin. Bankman Freed has been the subject of some criticism before FTX collapsed. He was increasingly vocal about the need for more regulation of the crypto currency. Many supporters of crypto opposed government oversight. Now FTX's collapse may help make the case stricter regulation. One of those critics was Binance founder and CEO Chang Pang Zhao. The feud between the two billionaires spilled out on the Twitter where Zhao and Bankman Freed collectively commanded millions of followers. Zhao helped kickstart the withdrawals that doomed FTX when he said Binance itself is holding in FTX's crypto token FTT. What a shit show and it's going to be crypto sport instead of one guy's fault. Zhao wrote on Twitter on Saturday. Why they? Why they? So here we have what seems to be a fraud of epic proportions and the parents of Sam Bankman Freed are Joe Bankman and Barbara Freed. The star antagonist in Ronnie Goodman's memoir on the Star Chamber at Stanford Law School. Remember I interviewed Ronnie a few months ago? There may well be criminal liability here. There's no evidence that Joe Bankman is criminally liable that he was deeply involved with FTX. Certainly possibly he was deeply involved with FTX. What exactly constitutes deeply? He's one of the leading authorities in financial regulation tax law. At a minimum his involvement will be considered highly embarrassing and discrediting and a pox upon Stanford Law. So Sam Bankman Freed donated tens of millions of dollars to democratic causes and candidates. Some of this went through a Bay Area PAC Mind the Gap. Who started Mind the Gap? His mom Barbara Freed. Vox described Mind the Gap as a secretive group led by Stanford University academics. The PAC's raison d'etre is stealth just like liberalism. Liberalism does not claim to be another partisan ideology. Plains to be the transcendence of ideologies. It is just pragmatic and freedom loving and tolerant and kind. So this all coheres pretty well with Ronnie Goodman's memoir and his struggle against the liberal elites. So maybe Joe Bankman and his wife Barbara Freed are capable of exactly what Ronnie Goodman attributes to them in his memoir. Now you may not remember my stunning interview with Ronnie Goodman. It was the interview that honestly it set the internet on fire and I would love to play it for you. Who can remember where they were? I just read American The Star Chamber of Stanford on the secret trial and invisible persecution of the Stanford Law Fellow. The author is Ronnie Goodman. Ronnie, why did you write this book? Where did I write it? I wrote it in various places. It's very beginnings were actually during the time related though that was still in co-it. But you know after my fate was sealed to Stanford I was in Israel for a few years. I have connections there and I was considering living there and I certainly developed its foundations as well. And then the rest you know since then you know I was also working on the companion volumes like conservative and cultural oppression as I know which is actually significantly longer than the published memoir and I had to do that as well. So you know I think there were there were a number of years where I didn't work on the book at all I was just working on the theoretical theoretical stuff but once that was in good enough shape I turned my attention fully to the book I would say probably since maybe fall 2017 I was doing that exclusively. So I guess I gave you both the the where and the and the when. Yeah is it good now? Yeah yeah that's about it. What makes trouble is it wasn't missing the microphone. And so I probably conceptualized the answer on a number of levels. So let me start with one that's consistent with the the introduction of the book. You know I start off by Caruso's discourse on art and sciences of the the origin of intellectual life and intellectual achievement originates in our vices and not our virtues but for I being foremost among those vices and I think that's that's certainly true on on some level because at the time I heard you know I was a high hell of high water to this. So if any people had read this book the the Star Chamber at Stanford Law School all right billions of dollars may have been saved right people would have realized that maybe something fishy and dishonest was was going on if they'd just seen the deviousness with which Ronnie Goodman had to do battle at Stanford Law School this whole FTX fiasco may have been avoided and you know thousands of lives would have been spared tremendous suffering if only they'd been tuning in to the 40 show right here at the the 40 show we're not afraid to peer into the abyss of liberalism where we're not afraid to do to do battle with the dominant ethos of our time we're not afraid to take on the dominant institutions and power centers and ideologies that rule our world and it's a shame more people weren't watching the 40 show they could have been alerted to this FTX breakdown years ahead of time think of all the suffering the distress that the dislocation oh no here comes away I'm going to get it now I'm going to get it now oh okay okay let's let's batten down the hatches I'm just trying to run a very high quality podcast here and bloody Sydney Harbor I'm trying to reveal the iniquity and perfidy and the the violence and the microaggressions and the macroaggressions inherent in our system of liberal hegemony and kind of kind of blood getting an even break here all right so Ronnie Goldman all right he warned us about this research project which I was hoping would open some doors to an academic career for reasons I described throughout the memo it it didn't but I think I was too proud to surrender to fate so yes you know all of the usual avenues for communicating my ideas you know had been cut off you know I'm second you know post up on academia or SSRN or so where were they cut off because the liberal left controls the cultural means of production and so the rest of us you know have to live outside the pale like here I am outside the pale sitting on the dock of the bay all right the liberals control the high grounds of culture they control the cultural means of production I'm reduced to you know my tiny little YouTube channels and my tiny little Odyssey and rumble channels but I've been trying to warn people about crypto and the deviousness inherent in the system of liberal hegemony as manifested at Stanford University how long have I been quoting Ronnie Goldman right six months I keep referencing his book conservative claims of cultural oppression I now I've done more than anyone to say that the the liberal emperor is naked but they wouldn't listen to me that's not gonna get anyone's attention so I realized that I would not surrender to fate so how to proceed right this is the story of a term paper that came to life that was for Stanford before has become about Stanford and it has become about Stanford because that was the only way of resuscitating my research agenda by tying me in in some way to the prestige of at the some extent it's my virtue of having studied they have to do so so I too have been inside the walls of hallowed academia I was a student at UCLA my father did two PhDs at the prestigious Michigan State University and the prestigious University of Manchester so I've been inside these hallowed halls and yet I have emerged outside to tell you the truth about what's really going on here I think that's a different level in order to actually disseminate my ideas so it was it was a pride and and necessity tell me a little bit about your ancestors and your parents so yeah it's a it's a convoluted story and I know I can't fill in all the gaps even though I've asked about it so I was okay we're gonna fast forward there get back to the so so much you know I I understand that a fourth you know if you've got a you know historically pressed group that that group identity is going to be more you know inevitably salient and so I know it's kind of facile just to say you know just just be colorblind so I wouldn't want to urge that in a in a facile way but to discount it as an ideal hundreds of law schools in the United States what's that Stanford law school personally so I can only address that from the point of view of our and in connection with that I would say that in terms of the underlying cheek which are the cultural pathologies of academia nothing sets it apart as far as I can so did the cultural pathologies of academia I predispose Sam Bankman freed to his nefarious activities with FTX I did he inherit cultural pathologies from Stanford law school professors and did he subsidize these cultural pathologies by donating tens of millions of dollars to Democrats how there is a common academic ethos which is going to pervade different institutions the fact they are geographically separate is gonna have a minimal or no effect on that so from the point of view of my negative critique I say you know nothing sets it apart though it is set apart in my experience given given my so I think Stanford law school would be regarded as one of the top five law schools in the United States the nature of my allegations and I tried to frame that in a positive way which is this is the place where my thesis came to life where the higher truth of conservative claims of cultural oppression was articulated three dimensionally and autobiographically and and certainly a you know not withstanding the antagonism you have to get credit to how would you describe your politics for example I could describe my own as paleo-conservative how would you describe yours you know I mean as far as if you were going as I say in the book you know if you are going to go down the liberal side you know I worldviews maybe it's not really scientific but it's scientific so for example I have a hard time three-week-old fetus as any quality that's worthy of a moral regard I guess a more metaphysical you might see things so yeah a traditionalist thinks that a three-week-old fetus does have tremendous moral worth because it doesn't just see the fetus in a buffered you know individual one our sense that sees it as a proto-human but it sees human life there on a trajectory on a path so the the liberal worldview is buffered strategic autonomous believing a self-capable of rationality and you know with natural predispositions towards that which is good the traditionalist worldview is that people have natural predispositions to probably stronger towards that which is bad but they are not buffered but they are porous right and what goes on outside of us influences us and that we're not just who we are at a particular snapshot in time we are part of a tribe a process you know things larger than ourselves we have porous meaning things come into us in our lives that affect us so what's going on with you affects me really as far as economics with conservatives I mean certainly you know government regulation can go too far in certain circumstances so this is Ronnie Goldman the author of the Stanford Law Star Chamber who I interviewed on my website six months ago and I haven't stopped talking about his book conservative claims of cultural oppression and I've probably brought it up 30 times on my show about the pathologies of our reigning liberal left hegemony and the two principal antagonists of his book on Stanford Law School are the parents of Sam bankman freed the guy who gave us the multi-billion dollar FTX scam and crypto meltdown that was you know for example in France where it's almost impossible to fire somebody without going to court and you know justifying it rigorously that that's not good you know if we have some form of universal health care universal health insurance somehow that is the you know the road to surf or that we're going to lose the virtue of self-reliance you know that I find kind of kind of absurd and I think and we would be up to have that United States without national health insurance one there's a unitary rather than a federal system and two if it didn't have an enormous underclass there's gonna suck up most of those health dollars and if we didn't increasingly realize that our government and our health system is going to actively discriminate against white people in favor of its favorite pet groups right so that the vaccine must be rolled out in a racially discriminatory way racially discriminatory against white people so once we saw how our federal bureaucracies and state bureaucracies and local bureaucracies wanted to roll out the vaccines in a racially discriminatory way against white people why then would white people want to fund national health insurance which would be disproportionately used by minorities. Paleo-conservatives might share that sentiment as well you know as as civilization has developed we have to do fewer things for ourselves yeah it used to be if your farmhouse is burning you've got to put it out there's no fire department if somebody steals from something someone from you very likely you're on your own or your clan is that this is Ronnie Gordman author of conservative claims of cultural oppression and he's just making the point that he is generally speaking on the left but he produced the most powerful critique of the the liberal hegemony that dominates the cultural means of production that I've read on your own so the whole process of modernity is actually relieving individuals of individual responsibilities for certain things so they can turn their attention to other things and I think something like guaranteed health care and and some level of the welfare state generally is basically just a irrational extension of that. Would you attend a same-sex wedding? Yeah. And did you feel any internal revulsion towards same-sex marriage? No I mean it's like I mean obviously you know since long time ago back in grad school at Indiana he actually he wasn't necessarily didn't necessarily feel like that way at first but he was kind of a bit of a lost soul as well you know abused as a kid and he was for you know he was for a while considering. He had a strong internal revulsion. Any kind of moral judgment? And what about let's say you had a friend who you discovered had just a really strong internal revulsion could want same-sex marriage couldn't even articulate a good argument against it just had a strong internal revulsion against it and yeah on that basis would not attend one. What would your reaction to such a person be? Well I've had such a friend and it was a long time ago back in grad school at Indiana he actually he wasn't necessarily didn't necessarily feel like that way at first but he was kind of a bit of a lost soul as well you know abused as a kid and he was for you know he was for a while considering. Fast forward here. Well then that lose that bit and praise and believe I'm not repelled but I disagree but they're real. Reputation. Oh I mean I think I think it's I reflexes. Got it. What is Stanford Law School's reputation among elite American legal scholars? Say that again. What is Stanford Law's reputation? Oh I mean I think it's certainly in in the very top I would imagine the top three or four and certainly most legal scholars would you know reject that and research that's gonna vary from person to person but yeah but Stanford is certainly very much up there you know as I say in the book so it doesn't have the same level of you know. You entered Stanford Law second year you did your first the first year of law school University of Texas so that's right. What were your expectations for your presumably two year experience at Stanford Law? Well I didn't necessarily have expectations but I had a had a goal and you know the perverse thing is that I actually realized the initial goal or the initial stage of my goal very effectively as I as I you know I explained you know I had a great time at Texas. I learned a lot from the point of view of academic careers you know Stanford and kindred places were were optimal so you know I went in there I wasn't didn't really think about what to expect I just thought this is what I need to do and I mean I actually didn't pull it off with the fellowship afterwards things might arrive of course as I relate but it was I would say certainly there was in terms of the law school itself putting putting my research amount of ambitious for the certainly was was better in the sense that I was in the same cohort with everybody everybody was a first team knew each other and yeah you know you could maybe work your way in to a certain extent but it wasn't like that. Well you know it's it's um Stanford it's because of the fact that I transferred. Was the genesis of your work on conservative victimology? Well you know it's um okay so liberalism's next communication of human nature did that perhaps it'll prepare Sam Bankman Freed for his FTX business right is Sam Bankman Freed's failure with FTX and the spectacular meltdown is this a negative reflection on liberalism given that you know two of the premier exponents of liberalism are his parents Stanford law professors Barbara Freed and Joe Bankman so did their devotion to liberalism blind them to basics of human nature right so liberalism believes that people are basically good which is I think absolutely insane at how on earth anyone could believe that human nature is basically good and so did this blindness play a role in the FTX meltdown was this son like morally crippled by being raised in this matrix of liberalism which has this delusional perspective that human nature is basically good you know some people supersede I don't want to say supersede because that's a judgment but I say you know spend those to use a neutral term more effectively than others and they become liberals but it's not necessarily reasonable to expect that of everyone and sort of and certainly principles liberals are compelled to to recognize that how people are differently situated for a variety of and to think so conservatives believe in the importance of tradition that tradition acts as a barrier against all thoughts of things of which we're not even aware and that when you break down these barriers such as against same-sex marriage you invite in all sorts of unknown pathologies and contagions so I'm trying to think of this 19th century British writer who talked about the the closed gate when a man finds a gate across his path the the liberal impulses to just tear that gate down without asking like what's the purpose of the gate that maybe the gate was there for a good reason and so tradition has all sorts of gates and blocks on human behavior and tradition is not based on first principles philosophy it's not based on okay because we believe acts therefore we're going to institute rituals ABC rather the rituals and perspectives of tradition you know involve to meet very real human needs and they evolved out of human nature and tried ensured ways of organizing human community a liberalism is kind of a top-down first principles ideology that claims not to be an ideology that anybody you know could just anybody just had a clean intentions or a good heart could sort of snap their fingers and or would snap their fingers to adopt the liberal worldview that was that was kind of a hassle to me and then at first that was just sort of a very visual set no I'm trying to run a quality podcast here guys stop stop the madness well not someone stop the madness I'm just trying to run a high quality podcast and these boats go speeding by huge splashing ways my cheap oppo phone isn't even waterproof stop the madness order two that was Sam Freed's FTX boat man Sam bloody bankman Freed just went by and his FTX boat just just sped by and sending these crazy waves up here and I'm just I'm just an average bloke right I'm just a simple drew hanging out here on the rocks hanging out here on the dock of the bay just uh I got nothing better to do just hanging out on the dock of the bay just just whistling and singing a happy tune and discoursing about conservative theories of cultural oppression no I haven't been attacked by magpies yet no haven't experienced attacks ah bloody hell I'm trying to run a bloody I'm trying to run a bloody podcast here guys and and look at the madness like these crazy waves are placing my my cheap Aussie phone in danger that they're they're taking away from the high quality of my productions like I'm I'm known for anything I'm known for high quality high technical quality productions and the madness of these waves they're just splashing all over my bloody podcast it's I think it's the liberal hegemony they control not just the cultural means of productions but they they control the waves they control the tide and here I am sitting in the dock of the bay just just doing nothing ah bloody hell just trying to just trying to do you know a very conventional podcast about conservative claims of cultural oppression and how Sam Bankman freed of this FTX fiasco right he is the son of these famous Stanford law right he's the son of these famous Stanford law graduates right and where did you hear about Joe Bankman right where did you hear about Barbara Free you heard about them for the first time a my bloody show oh I I've told you there was something rotten in Stanford law I told you the problem was with our liberal system of thought control of the liberal's control of the means of production Sam is one of the bad ones well he's the child of these liberal Stanford professors who did our boy Ronnie Goodman wrong I've been telling you about Ronnie Goodman's classic work conservative claims of cultural oppression I've been banging on about this for six months if only people would have listened to me six months ago they would have recognized the rottenness at the heart of this system that spawned the demon seed of Sam Bankman freed FTX and the tens of millions of dollars that he gave to democratic candidates and this bay area mind the gap political action committee that is steered by Barbara freed Joe Bankman another Stanford professors I told you about the the rottenness in the system like I did everything I could you heard about these people here first I said watch out guys there's something wrong with liberal hegemony the libs control the cultural means of production Tulsi Gavir hosting Tucker right now you went on vacation at a good time I tried to warn you I said watch out guys there's there's rottenness here at Stanford law I told you about the star chamber in Stanford law how many times have I mentioned Ronnie Goodman's name like hundreds of times on this show how many times have I praised his poor conservative theories of cultural oppression right I will not stop speaking the truth I don't care if the ways and the tides here at Sydney Harbor try to get me I don't care if they send right you think these are birds these are birds right these are remote controlled uh what do you call those things that fly about and drop bombs right those aren't real birds mate that's the the liberal hegemony owners of the cultural means of production trying to shut down my bloody podcast because I'm getting too close to truth right they're trying to drown me out they're trying to drown out the truth here I told you there's something rotten in Denmark all the billions of dollars that could have been saved if only people had paid attention to my show to my blog post look forward dot net right to all the blogs I've made about this book about star chamber at stanford law school with my interview with Ronny Gouldman and I'm not going to let them drown me I'm going to speak keep speaking out until the last wave it finally crushes me but I'm determined to make my stand here I stand guys I can do no other so help me god oppo phones the element about that phone was 120 that phone was 120 us which is like 200 australian I bought it on my last trip but we're not even counting the 40 dollars that I spent for 80 gigs of data like I really would like to give you the high quality technical experience of my iphone with the sure mic extender right that high quality visual and oral experience but I can't because data is like six times as expensive if I do it through my american phone plan so I'm just stuck here on my cheap oppo phone trying to warn you all about sam bankman freed in the ftx meltdown and this is the runny gouldman interview which should have notified us that something was rotten here I did this interview about six months ago articulate it you know and it was it was so miserable in fact that you know even even a year in the fellowship as I describe it only just began succeeding it just begun what are the skills that make for a good lawyer certainly um this is this is underrated but certainly a uh a tolerance for uh fortidium yeah I had to sort of just be able to embrace get this set oh I just finished the task I you know I wrote a letter to the judge uh complaining the other side hasn't produced there just so tedium was it just too much tedium filling the ftx filings the old people to sleep that this was all a scam all right let's uh let's skip ahead here you give me doing even okay five minute summary of your book preferably without repeating points that we've already covered that is something I would have a very hard time doing even though obviously I understand that listeners want to hear it and and and the problem is is this hopefully this will give them you know some kind of communication okay so let me I'm what I can say generally yeah it is it is sort of a faultful grace that's sort of I I was able to create sort of high hopes from the faculty there but owing to uh my conflicts I I would say no not with them personally as individuals though it led to that too but with the norms of academia that uh really so his principal conflicts were with the parents of sam bankman freed meaning stanford law professors joe bankman and barbara freed kato and paul show bitter bobs admitted what if demographics of turn voters and give me goodies type so paul paul got freed he's about to make or is he making his final show ever for joseph kato so what led to the dissolution of this winning pair joseph kato and paul got freed why is this the end of kato got freed inquiring minds need to know you know progressively soured though in very subtle ways that went under the knowledge at the time and that eventually led to the uh conflagration which I uh I described as my my my gas lighting and you know the problem and who principally carried out this gas lighting all right there's principally his stanford law school professors they still got my keepers keeping joe here in sydney all right the conflagration and the gas lighting is principally done by two stanford law professors barbara freed and joe bankman the parents of sam bankman freed so ronnie gullman says there's something rotten in the system i picked up his book i said there's something rotten in the system up well you want me to accept no more fdx donations you want me to stop writing on the the good ship fdx lollipop you're really asking a lot mate but uh for the cause of truth i'm willing to do it mate the cause of truth uh about a beautiful day here it's about 70 degrees overcast sitting on the dock of the bay with any kind of summaries i used to know sort of on you know on the one hand i can say uh well you know it's a a lot of it is a critique of certain uh the intellectual norms of academia which are in fact quite uh intellectually stifling and reflect a certain conservatism by the little liberal elites which is ultimately hypocritical given the demands that they you know impose on society so you know if i were to say that you know some people might might might find that it's somewhat interesting uh other people might find it they didn't only say you know well yeah we know there's a lot that's irrational about academia are you really telling us anything no so if i put it that way you're not gonna get that i was reacting now the the other pull of what the memoir is about is is is the gas lighting and as as i you know you said it sounds kind of incredible uh to you because i'm saying that there was a form of communication but solely through invigoration and intimation and illusion that we had we had a form of communication that it was ultimately okay so it was the same type of gas lighting done by ftx did sam bankman freed become excellent at gas lighting through the influence and example and teachings of his parents joe bankman and barbara freed was he born and raised and suckled on gas lighting just like what uh ronnie gouldman here experienced during his time at stanford law from sam bankman freed's parents joe bankman and barbara freed subterranean and had to be decoded against this background which all parties understood and uh no you know if i put it that way it's gonna sound either really weird or not gonna probably want to know what i'm talking about when i talk about if i said that the the school website itself embodied so remember when there were blokes saying that uh you know that other other financial scans were going on that's what's the big one from 2008 that uh that bernie bernie right bernie had that uh more try multi billion dollar scam and uh people have been warning about it for years and the like the sec or the fdc had investigated and uh bernie made off all right he was he got away with it for years and years and years because he was just so good at gas lighting right and sam bankman freed got away with it he was so good at gas lighting and a liberal elite get away with things because they're just so good at gas lighting and how did jeffry epsi and get away with it so long he was so good at gas lighting and he had all these enablers on his side just like sam bankman freed uh a message which was at the the epicenter of this whole thing well that's if i just put it that way it's gonna sound it's gonna sound crazy so you know but the only way to put yeah so they're calling in sam bankman freed call him robber bank man how did robber bank man get so good at robbing right did he hone his skills under the conscious or unconscious direction of his stand for the law professor parents barbara freed and joe bankman those two aspects of it together and realize that the book is neither fatal nor crazy is to is to read it and so of course i'm i'm asking when i ask people to read it i am asking them to undertake a certain a certain leap of faith and you know maybe this will help persuade them to do that okay only other people are taking this leap of faith that i talked six months ago all right thousands of you know lives could have been preserved in financial health you wouldn't have this multi-billion dollar meltdown of ftx all right we told you we told you there was something rotten here but but it is a leap of faith you know yeah and and from from my own experience i've lived my life as a distant and a heretic who's been thrown out of almost every community i've ever joined yeah i read about that and it is no fun it's absolutely no fun whatsoever and yeah i can't overstate the toll of having people around you think you're crazy the that just took an enormous toll on me right and all the people who said bernie madoff is running a scam right they were told they were crazy people who said that ftx was a scam right people told them that they were crazy runny gordon says that uh there's a star chamber going on at stanford law school people said he was crazy keep runny gordon wrote this profound book conservative claims of cultural oppression and he was dismissed as crazy i reached out to about 30 law professors who are mentioned in runny gordon's book the star chamber of stanford law school and only about two responded to me so the inference was he's crazy not worth responding to that that practically drove me crazy the more other people regarded me as crazy i'm just curious about your experience well i i i totally agree with that and in fact um if we talk about it maybe i mean let me uh add an addendum to uh what i earlier said about why i wrote the book in a sense because the book is really it is a shield against that charge okay you can you could say that and but i can say read the book and if they say you're crazy i can say why exactly don't you accept argument a b c and d and yeah you know um i had one of my editors she was really she was really great uh but she was she was you know skeptical of the the you know the facially outlandish uh conventions but then you know i can find out what specific arguments you know it's not like she could refute them but she just said oh well you know you have the ability to argue the moon is made of made of green cheese so yeah you can make these arguments when i can't refute them but i still i still don't believe you which is fine that i can deal at least now i have a shield they can say i can say look is this do you really do you really think a crazy person could write this on any conventional definition of of crazy you know a non-metaphorical everything i always want to say obviously not and and the book is i hope what establishes it okay jim balance says look sorry for not getting back to you let's read jim balance message here apparently too busy running matters after christus like to catch up with you looking at anzac bridge you must be somewhere around bow main so i am currently about a mile mile and a half south of sydney harbour bridge so i'm sitting on the dock of the bay all right and explaining the sam bankman freed robberman right the operator of fdx this multi-billion dollar crypto scam right his parents are two notable stanford law professors joe bankman and barbara freed who i started talking about six months ago and i read ronnie goodman's book here on the stanford law star chamber his two principal advisors were barbara freed and her husband joe bankman so ronnie wrote conservative claims of cultural oppression he twigged there was something rotten here designed to sit at the core kids table like i love the core kids i love the successful i mean i love that stuff i really really really really really want to belong to the core kids there's only one thing in the world that i want more and that is to pursue what i think is true and to say what i think is true yeah i'm just curious do you do also have a significant you know through the you know nose against the glass kind of looking in at the core kids table uh a desire or has that been come in a sense you know i certainly have thought sometimes working at starbucks and not you know picking up the garbage but i certainly see that you know a lot of that you know a lot of informal law students my age or even significantly uh uh younger certainly from you know stanford are certainly further ahead in their careers than i am you know they're partners at firms as opposed to an associate as you know associate they're partners at firms where they're really making hundreds and hundreds hundreds of thousands of dollars each each year i i i i look back i say what why am i not there i have the same degree i had to defeat them stand toe to toe to them so why am i not sitting at the uh you know the core kids yeah so success economic success social success success with women isn't uh necessarily primarily based upon merit upon intelligence upon wisdom upon righteousness it's uh primarily based on how well you get along with people what your people skills are like how well you live in community in addition to merit now there are some things where it's all merit so if you're going to be a winning chess champion that's all merit are you going to be a great physicist or economist or a biologist all right that's going to be overwhelmingly merit ah bloody hell i'm trying to run a high quality podcast here stop the madness stop the waves tie go away i'm trying to i'm trying to break important intellectual ground here but the the liberal hegemonists are sending these these waves and birds at me to try to shut me down but i will not be silent i'm going to speak truth to power table but i i try to say you know in in the end just you have to embrace your fate you try to you know walk those those two worlds between you know and establishing a palatable place in society but uh also uh pursuing your heart's passion which is a block and you know i've i've tried to affect eyes between those two uh as best i could because you know i i didn't really have a choice in the matter now i'm thinking i was at top of my head so for the normie who's watching this and at their larger point here i was largely run a consensus kept at world view that because you know or true that other world views and so i'm gonna have my untrust and you know it's prestige you know i'm giving the subtle and this is the the great point of ronnie guver's book the the liberal left world view that dominates most of our institutions is not presented as just another partisan world view it's presented as something that transcends world views that transcends ideologies it's just pragmatism and kindness and freedom and love all right it's just about pursuing you know what is empirically true it's not it's not another partisan system operating for the advantage of a select few when in truth it is just another partisan system based upon a particular faith commitment about human nature that the self is buffered is basically good is strategic autonomous uh capable of being rationally directed and uh overcoming its you know basic drives through the force of reason as opposed to the traditional sense of self which is porous meaning that what happens outside of me affects me what goes on with you affects me and that we need tradition to bar the door to all sorts of things that we can't articulate or don't even know yeah that's prejudices uh because there is a lot of truth there too but there's there's it's also false and let's say it's certain subtle ways like when i when i obsessed uh transgenderism just as one example it's certainly you know merits critiques and i kind of always felt like you know in law school you've got lots of people who are like you know the writing you know articles you know defending certain you know international uh human rights norms uh you know right to abortion various demands for various kinds of of equality and i i always thought it's not that i opposed that necessarily my family were uh reaching for the the low-hanging fruit the high is the elites the people might have stanford as i as i as i describe it that that always were lords to me that was a certain kind of of a fubress perhaps and it it led to the tumult i i describe but uh yeah i i again i could maybe come back to this pro rebelliousness i can say it doesn't matter even if you have you know 75 percent of the truth okay so to be continued this is a great story and uh we'll do a lot more on this later on but i'm off to continue my walkabout bye bye