 Oh, yeah All right. Well, so how was everybody else's weekend? Um, good pretty pretty calm Went went out to my steak dinner my birthday steak dinner on Saturday. Yeah, it wasn't nice. Did you like it lovely? Yeah, that place is great. Oh and We Just hung around with the dogs and watched movies and TV shows kind of just chilled sounds relaxing Well, I will have you and Roger know that yesterday I ordered my caprese sandwich and a large godmother from Bay cities and I ate them both. Well good What's a large godmother? That's what I had. It's the tom got the small ones. I got the large one Do I eat two large submarine sandwiches yesterday? I ate Chinese leftovers It was great. We all eat an Italian submarine I mean do any of you I know I've asked Tom this but I don't know about you and Sarah and Justin, but Do you have any kind of? Uh Thing where you just won't eat leftovers like It's not it. Like I'll eat leftovers Always, I mean unless some for some reason they've turned Yeah, that's a day after leftovers. Yeah, not spoiled But something like you cook maybe the night before maybe two nights before in your Oh, yeah, I'm I'm that's ideal actually because then I don't have to cook I I will say that my wife Ashley is Is more finicky about leftover. She's more finicky about food going bad than I am I I I have yet to see the day When we've gone too bad, especially like prepared leftovers that are just sitting in the fridge like whatever. I'll eat that Oh, yeah It's probably just fermented and good for my digestion. Exactly. Yeah, if I don't It's like kimchi. It's just a big bowl of Uh Oh What is it the cellists? No, no, no, uh, vetchamite Yeah, I mean there have even been times where it's like Oh that Chicken chicken masala sat out all night, but it's fine. You know what my rule of thumb is I don't really get sick. So I don't know my rule of thumb is if it's not longer than three days And I nuke it hot enough generally would be safe to eat. Yeah Like I nuke it for five minutes everything in it that could kill me should be dead And if it's not like chicken chicken masala, the the curry will cover up whatever else I worry about extremophiles Hmm Which is like the bacteria that live in volcanic vents at high temperatures But the don't go camping or volcanic vents. Yeah, they might have been my leftovers somehow Well, they might have shown up before the left. They were leftovers and you're professionally prepared So here's my question if they show up in your leftovers, but there is no bad reaction Hmm Maybe you become more of a superhuman after ingestion. Maybe maybe we'll start the show. Maybe we will Maybe we won't Now we will All right, you guys ready? Yeah, go we go Daily tech news show is powered by you to find out more head to daily tech news show dot com slash support This is the Daily Tech news for Monday, July 2nd 2018 in Los Angeles on Tom Merritt and from studio feline I'm Sarah Lane from Oakland, California I'm Justin Robert young and of course joining us a fan of 8-bit chip tunes himself roger chang our producer Yes, I am a fan of chips Especially chocolate chips. Hmm 8-bit chocolate chip tunes Good stuff We're going to talk a little bit today about a study out on automation and its effect on the workforce But let's start with a few tech things you should know Tesla confirmed it was able to manufacture 5031 model threes in seven days to meet a milestone it had hoped to achieve in December Tesla created a new production line in a tent to help meet that goal The company now hopes to produce 6,000 model threes a week by the end of august Some people say Elon musk is a snake oil salesman. I'm sure the tent is not helping NASA plans to conduct a series of public tests of quieter supersonic technology near galveston, texas in november An fa 18 hornet will perform dive maneuvers and at least 500 local volunteers will gauge the thumps it makes To say how acceptable the noise level is this will help the x 59 supersonic jet team calibrate the tech for its test flights Which are expected in 2021 All right. Let's talk a little bit more about some bad news for htc. Justin Oh, yeah HTC announced it will lay off 1,500 employees from its taiwanese manufacturing division That's about 22 percent of the company The company will reorganize for efficiency in an attempt to be profitable HTC laid off employees and reorganized earlier this year As well. It's the reorg so nice. They did it twice I don't know about nice. Uh, they certainly did it twice and It has a lot of people worried because htc as you remember sold off a large part of its mobile design team to google Uh, mostly the team that was responsible for the pixel phones, which made sense But they continue to make phones that don't sell And they continue to not acknowledge that the thing dragging down their profit margin is the phones But they say they're going to continue to make the phones now far be it from me to tell htc You'll never make a profitable phone because they make some really great phones There's no reason they shouldn't sell better Maybe they'll get it right this time But the conventional wisdom from the outside and believe me. I know backseat driver It's always easier from the outside is why don't you focus on the vibe? You've got oculus out there with a Wireless headset that you could drive out of the market because yours is better But you'll only sell yours in china. You should be focusing on that Well, but maybe that's what this is an effort to do, right? You know, if you've got a bunch of people working on phones, they're not selling well You have to lay people off eventually htc certainly isn't the first company to experience this If they want to double down on the whole vr Uh future, which is That's the crap shoot as well. Uh, depending on who you ask Then they would have to do this doesn't mean they won't ramp up later It does sound like they're not Getting rid of the idea of making the phones. No, no, no, they're they're not because this is the poison pill that they are addicted to eating right now Phones are so commoditized in general specifically on the android side that you are looking at features that are in the top of the line phones Are on Very affordable very good Uh, uh, very good phones within A year right and htc is is in exactly that perspective I mean htc wants if it were me again, I don't know i'm doing a podcast But if it were me I would be making mid-tier phones and pushing them in africa and india Which htc does not seem to be doing much or if they are trying they're not making much headway in those markets Well, let's move on to some bad news for photographers depends on where you post your photos photo sharing site 500 picks That's 500 px has removed the option for photographers to share photos under the creative common license And has closed its stock photo platform called 500 picks marketplace visual china group thought that the company bought the company rather back in february is Placing the marketplace with visual china group and getty image partnerships royalty rates for photographers won't change While the million or so creative common license images have been removed from download and search 500 picks as It may integrate creative commons into the platform in the future that that was sort of a vague Uh note from them 500 picks gave no warning of the removal, but archive.org was able to retrieve three terabytes of photos Thanks to volunteers. I saw a lot of mumbling and grumbling about this over the weekend because It wasn't so much that okay a company bought us and now we're changing our strategy It was that so many photographers had no heads up It was basically like if you're creative commons and this is something that's working for you This will all be removed figure out another option Which is funny because 500 picks at one time was this flicker alternative Kind of worked the same way had a lot of very high quality photos and photographers who were who were willing to You know be social with with their collections and share them under a variety of different licenses and it has changed Well, you know, I I I have to wonder whether or not You know, where is the new market for something like this because like you said flicker was beloved amongst photographers And then it never really found its way in a post instagram kind of world Uh, I don't even know where if you really wanted to get into photography You maybe you were starting out and you just wanted to get exposure Uh and and have your images used places like where do you go these days? Like where do you post these things? I mean 500 picks is still there. I I think there's it's easy to misinterpret this story in a lot of ways First of all, visual china group bought the company and said, hey, you know what we have our own marketplace We'd like to put that in 500 picks at least in china. So let's start there Oh, if we do that, it doesn't really make sense to operate the old marketplace outside of china Let's license with getty images. That'll make us more money It'll also be better for the photographers because then when they license through 500 picks They get licensed through getty images They're liable to make more money because they might get sold off side of 500 picks through getty images as well This is going to be great for everyone. Oh wait getty images doesn't really integrate with creative commons How many people are using the creative commons function? Not that many. That's a small percentage We're not familiar with creative commons culture So let's get rid of it as a business decision and an engineering decision. It makes perfect sense Hold on We didn't give anyone any notice and now they're very upset that these images that were creative commons licensed Particularly to be able to be preserved and shared easily are suddenly disappearing without any kind of notice No wonder they're getting angry. Like I don't think 500 picks meant to do something bad But they did something very badly They should not have rolled it out that way. This is an engineering solution That was not communicated to consumers in in the an effective way This was just engineering amp business both like I mean, there's no reason not to keep creative commons Unless you're like, oh, it just isn't worth the man hours to put on it Which is why they're saying we're not ruling out adding it later if we see there's demand for it Yeah, but your question remains Justin What would be the best alternative for any photographer who's like, you know, the creative commons license is really important to me And you know, that's where I I share or I or I you know, someone like me might might get photos that way I don't know. Um, I I'd love to know what what the new cool thing is I know it's not flicker ebarch suggests smug mug in the chat room Yeah, that's true. Send us your favorites. Uh feedback and daily tech news show dot com All right security researchers from your rur universitat bocum and new york university abu dhabi have revealed a vulnerability in lte They call all tur get it lte is capitalized in the word all Yeah, uh, so this is a vulnerability and it's a serious one if you're in the surveillance industry if you're in really, you know, uh, sensitive data, uh In the in the business of of trafficking and sensitive data But it's not going to be one that affects most of you an attacker in proximity of the target So first of all, they have to be nearby And they have to have around $4,000 worth of sniffing equipment. So this isn't going to be just anybody off the street Could sniff out your data and first of all Use the amount of time data requests take and the amount of data that's trafficked To kind of identify what sites are being visited despite encryption. It's something called fingerprinting So they can get enough data to do some fingerprinting and say, oh, I think I know where they're going Then the attackers could also direct traffic to malicious dns servers There's a lack of integrity checks in lte's lower layers that can allow them to spoof dns servers And get your traffic to visit their dns server, which could serve malicious pages The worst thing about it is it's baked into lte. There's really no way to patch it So you kind of have to wait for 5g to come along for this to be gone In the meantime, if you are somebody who says, well, wait, you know Somebody with $4,000 of sniffing equipment nearby me is a is an actual real risk Then you're going to want to make sure that you're only visiting sites using http strict transport security or dns security extensions That limits the amount of sites you can go to of course so I mean, I I definitely would be curious to see You know, this this seems like the kind of thing that that at you know def con would be You know something that was that was talked about but Uh, it seems like this is not This is this isn't quite a retail problem for exactly. That's a really good way of putting it It's something to know about something to be aware about especially if you end up in a position We're like, oh, wait a minute. This could be a problem But the vast majority of people listening to this show are not going to have to worry about it So important to know not important for most of you to worry about Dell which owns 80 of vmware says it will buy back the vmware tracking stock it issued in 2016 In order to simplify its ownership structure Dell will offer 109 dollars per share or 1.3665 shares of class c del common stock Dell says it will uh It will list the class c shares back on the new york stock exchange following the completion of the buyback Making del a public company again Yeah, so if you didn't quite follow that The they a tracking stock is something that you put out when you don't want to put out stock for the entire company Uh, but let's say well in vmware's case You have a company that used to be public and you kind of want it to keep trading So it's called a tracking stock because of that and so what del's doing is saying that makes it complex to make del public again So we need to buy back all that stock Give those people class c stock and del which is private right now Then we can take del public So the upshot is del's going back to the stock exchange sounds like Yeah, man, dude. What a what a A circuitous route for uh for for for del over the past 15 years, huh? Yeah, I mean, I kind of thought it was The idea of public pressure on del is what was keeping it from succeeding But it sounds like that was only a temporary solution in their mind Is we just needed to get out of the public guy for a while so we could fix stuff now We fix stuff we can go back and be public again moving on to bike shares lift acquired motivate which is the bike sharing company that operates City bike in new york city if you've been to new york city, you know that they're very prolific there Ford's go bike program in san francisco lift says motivate has about 80% of bikes share trips in the u.s It's also operating networks in chicago, boston dc portland columbus, ohio Minneapolis now lift competitor uber bought e bike start up jump earlier this year A bit of a trend that and uber has applied for a permit to operate a network of electric scooters in san francisco Lift has applied for a permit in san francisco there as well So All right, we talked a lot about Electric scooters on friday show in our round table show with with chanon morris and trisha hershberger, but I think this is really smart. I mean i had not Realized that motivate the parent company of city bikes, which i have used in new york city and it is Lovely at least if the weather is right. I did not realize that their network extended to so many other cities This is a fundamental path in the wood One way or another kind of decision because Motivate if you are not familiar the difference is That uh for either the ford go bikes or the city bikes in new york You have these paddocks that are permitted and they are out on uh street corners They they have done a great job of figuring out where the big traffic points are you get it out of one paddock You go you plug it into the the paddock near where you want to go and that's that process the far more anarchistic and uh at times Legally straining model is what we have seen with let's say bird and lime And jump which uber bought where you just find a bike somewhere you you turn on your app You see that it's it's around your neighborhood You walk you get it and then you just leave it wherever you want with very very few Restrictions you are you are leaving it in in public places not a specific government approved paddock So it's it's interesting to see lift going this way Getting into this game where they already have a tremendous foothold While i kind of wonder with how easy some of this other that the other business model is Whether or not that's going to be the dinosaur way is motivate where the puck is and lime and bird and jump Where the puck is going well and and lift wants to do both and uber wants to do both So it kind of doesn't matter. I think what uber and lift want are when you get out of the car We're partnering with public transit agencies to tell you hey You can buy a transit pass through us in certain areas Or we want to be able to tell you oh We know you still have a little ways to go to get to the place you wanted to Here grab this scooter slash bike and it will get you there They just want to cover every step on your path from one place to another Yeah, if you use public transportation, I think shannon was talking about you know, you know being your abert station um last friday it's like The idea of having a place where you get a scooter or a bike or wherever in a designated location where you know They're going to be that doesn't have to go the way of the dodo just because we have the birds and the limes and you know That's sort of riddling of of scooters all over the place in other senses. I think there's room for both I don't totally know how it shakes out, but I do know that between lift and uber Getting getting uh, you know market share in this sense, especially because you can piggyback it onto I took a lift and then I took a lift owned bike to get to my final destination, you know, that last mile or whatever Makes a lot of sense The only thing I would say it's on the on the way out is that I do think that there is a difference when you are working with the city Uh an overhead that is the appealing business side Of the the more anarchistic you're just finding the the bike or the scooter Model would be curious to see which one wins out or or does better or if they both work then great I will say just in closing there's a bird scooter Right outside my apartment building It's been on the street and is making weird beeping noises and has been doing it for three days And no one's used it And I don't know when it's ever going to go away and it's very annoying So a by the way, that's big money if you bring it into your house and charge it I don't but is that what i'm supposed to do? I just wanted to stop beeping. Yeah, if you want to make that green I do stop beeping too. Who knows might be a win-win Hey, folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes subscribe to daily tech headlines and daily tech headlines dot com Oh economists they worry us they talk to us. They try to educate us Uh about automation and automation is something that I have talked about in the sense of most likely We see automation limits and eliminate some jobs while other jobs get created And there is an economic tradition for that kind of thinking which is touched upon and what I think is one of the best Papers that I have read about this yet the rise of the robot reserve army automation in the future of economic development Work and wages in developing countries by luke schlögel and andy sumner of king's college london Their paper is put out through the center for global development About the effects of automation not just on economic development and wages, but particularly in developing countries What I like about it is they say yes generally speaking Developed countries that have service economies are less likely to be affected by automation because first of all automation doesn't affect service jobs as much and second it we see examples where There are pressures to keep service employees employed and it's easier to shift them into other things Where it will be a problem is in what are considered more manual labor More unskilled labor and developing countries have much larger percentages of the population engaged in that And that Is where we should be paying attention about how to aid the transition Now the paper says too much attention is being focused on determining the feasibility of automation to decide Which jobs are going to be replaced? Which automation is willing is going to work? They're like we should worry about that But we're spending all our time on that Just because something can be automated doesn't mean it will be there are costs there are legalities There are cultural beliefs about I don't want to talk to a robot stuff like that They all play a part and not enough is being done to study this Where will the effects actually happen for example in the paper? They mentioned that in indonesia indonesia's toll booth operator pt. Joss and marga eliminated 20 000 toll booth jobs with automation But not one person has been laid off from that company yet Now there are lots of reasons why that might be and they go through them in this paper But the point being just because jobs get eliminated doesn't mean the people get laid off certainly not right away There's an example of it Now what they say is that most of the disruption is going to come in these countries Where the labor market is filled with unskilled jobs in factories and agriculture and They say rather than causing mass unemployment AI and robots are more likely to lead to stagnant wages and deindustrialization So not mass firings and mass layoffs, but people just getting stuck in jobs that don't grow or don't make them enough money They say as agricultural and manufacturing jobs are automated workers will continue to flood the service sector Driving down wages and in these countries the service sector can absorb them like they can in some developed countries So the current debate focuses too much on technological capabilities and not enough on the economic political legal and social factors That will profoundly shape the way automation infects employment. What do you guys think of this? You know the tldr being we need to be focusing on How will automation affect jobs and what can we do in advance of that? well This all makes a lot of sense Uh, I I do believe that we are at a point now and we were just talking about this on on the weird things podcast earlier today that automation Will is is the greatest looming kind of a threat here I do Think that this makes a lot of sense to say that it is going to be in third In developing countries, I guess what let's not say third world That that this will hit harder Now the question is in these top-down economies where many of them are restrictive Will it be allowed to spread as fast? Like will will the governments decide that this is what is is best for everybody? I don't know I mean, I think that this is a a a worst-case scenario But I don't know how realistic it is Well, if you think about tom, you mentioned the cultural aspects of it, you know, people don't like talking to robots think of amazon's Amazon go what what's the uh the store where they don't have any cashiers anymore up in seattle? You know, that's a great example of something where it's like, okay. Well, it's a little weird You know, it might be kind of weird if I went in there the first time But if it makes sense for the company's bottom line The cultural stuff will just all have to get used to it, right because companies want to You know make as much money as possible and be more efficient And if this is the way that they can do it, they will and that applies to any country anywhere At any company in any country anywhere that said if And we and we do a lot of the stuff like well, it doesn't mean that everyone's going to get laid off It just means that humans have the opportunity to have even better jobs, you know And and and we'll expand on these more sort of menial tasks that that that if the robots take over Freeze us all up to do other things however Yes, in an economist sense If that means that you might be in a position even more so that isn't growing Where your wages aren't growing and There are enough people in that position to to to to make a difference that that is an issue It doesn't mean, you know, even if you don't lose your job It means if there's no opportunity to grow that's that's not a good thing Especially in a lot of these companies which are supposedly forward thinking and you know disrupting and changing the worlds Yeah, the the thing to keep in mind is is what this paper is saying is not We we know what the nightmare scenario is what they're saying is we don't know what the scenario is what we know is that The early indications are that automation disrupts service-based economies that are usually developed countries less Uh and that those seem more resilient What we don't know is what these developing countries are going to do where it looks like what happens is that The automation is done in the developing countries takes away the need the demand for the industries that have been employing people in the developing countries takes away their advantage of cheap labor because The automation is cheaper and and leads to deindustrialization and that's what you need to anticipate So it's it's not just about Oh, you know the policy of the country is going to affect it It's what happens on a worldwide scale as well and they recommend that countries look at Not creating manufacturing clusters to defend themselves against this But long-term automation resistant sectors and building up Social educational healthcare tourism things that are going to be resistant to automation in the future is is what We should be studying and advising countries to look at if they want to prevent this sort of thing from happening So this is all about where we go forward. Yeah Basically, this paper is saying hey nobody's looking at what we need to do They're all looking at like hey, this might get rid of these jobs. Great. That's fine What about figuring out what jobs actually get impacted and figuring out how to how to deal with that? Yeah, smart Well, I will say that this subject is very active in our subreddit and thanks to everybody who submits stories in our subreddit about Robots and and and everything else. Uh, we love them It helps us understand what you want to know more about and what we should talk about on the show Submit stories and also vote on others at daily tech news show dot reddit.com And facebook.com slash groups slash daily tech news show is another place you can hang All right, let's move on to our thing of the day Chris christensen from amateur traveler has a tip about airlines using ai This is chris christensen from amateur traveler with another tech in travel minute And yet another story in terms of where ai is coming in the travel industry We're seeing 52 of all airlines are working with some sort of ai Some are working with it to try and resolve issues more rapidly Whether you're talking to a chatbot or even better if you're talking to a person They can have an ai that is simultaneously parsing this to try and get you answers quicker I think everybody can be happy with that if it gets us the right answer They're also looking at suggesting future flights and trips That can be good if it's used wisely obviously if i'm calling to complain and yell at them Then that might not be the best time And then they're also integrating with smart devices So we saw united has come out with the united skill So I don't have to talk to someone to check in for a flight or to get flight status I can do that with my voice with the amazon echo or other similar devices The one that's a little creepy is they talked about Ai being able to tap into your fitbit to detect how agitated you are when you're calling and tailor response Accordingly, I'm not sure. I want you to have access to that data. That one seems a bit farfetched to me I'm chris christensen from amateur traveler. We see your heart rate is 95 ma'am, please You seem upset If they're going to treat me with kid gloves and get me to the front of the line that I'm going to be doing I'm going to be running stairs I have kind of a funny thought. I know we're probably far away from this, but you know, just just Expanding on our automation talk How long until the drink cart is automated and it's just a little robot going down the aisle You know, I wouldn't be shocked or uh, you know, I was very bummed to see that Virgin's model of not having a drink cart but rather just having in some kind of ordering system That you could automate Would just be a smarter way to do it. Is that is Alaska Airlines not continuing that because I I agree with you That was I don't way better way to do it. Yeah, I don't know if Alaska is continuing that tradition I do know that it didn't catch on with and virgin even stopped doing it I would order a drink and then the drink cart would come by and they'd say did you order a drink? I'm like, okay. That kind of obviates the thing so Let's check in the mail bag. Sarah. What do we get from email? Let's do it Matt from Cincinnati emailed us regarding our friday discussion on regulating electric scooter rentals Matt says even though i'm against regulations in general, I know that this would never happen I think the most sensible regulations have already been put into place and those are Motorcycle laws i'm in ohio as far as I'm aware Scooters if they were introduced here would fall under the definition of a motorcycle onto such would require a motorcycle License to operate it would also ensure that people are aware of the laws and the customs and general Courtesies that go along with riding bikes and the police could easily enforce rules of the road and prevent them from being used on sidewalks At least in my part of town a lot of people are riding scooters on sidewalks Which you're not supposed to do on a bicycle either in general matt says it's not the world's biggest hurdle to get one But it certainly wouldn't make the scooter companies happy as it's another step to use that service Meaning getting that motorcycle license. I love matt's self-awareness. He's like look, I know this is not going to happen I know the scooter companies wouldn't like it, but we've already got the rules you need It's called a motorcycle license, you know, it's may not never work But but he's not wrong like the the complaints that we made are all covered by being aware of that sort of thing It's one of those it's all fine until it applies to you if it applies to the scooter companies It's going to apply to you if you just go buy a scooter and then you're going to be like wait Why do I need a motorcycle license to ride a scooter? That doesn't seem right and that that's where it all falls apart politically But yeah, I think matt's right. Yeah, I would think there's something You know, I know in san francisco when we all lived there Um, you know, there were sort of like mopeds They work really well for the city and they kind of are motorcycles, but you don't take them in the highway So there are some sort of different legalities involved there The scooters probably and again not that I want anything bad to happen to anybody ever But I think when there are enough accidents that put people into sort of this Fud area that we're not quite in yet, you know, because we're all just talking about them being littered on the side of the road Then we'll probably have more conversations about Um, what kind of licenses you need to operate one as they come to more cities too right now It's considered. Oh, that's a san francisco problem. That's a west side la problem, but it's expandable. Yeah Well, thanks matt for writing in and also thanks to justin robert young for being with us on monday fresh off the vegas circuits What's been going on besides uh, not drinking enough water? Well, i'm glad you asked sarah because I don't know if you guys know, but it is a big week We're celebrating a birthday for good old america Yep, the old bag is turning another year old and uh, we're celebrating here We call her now the old bag You know, I she looks great for 242 or she really does Hell yeah, so uh the contender the game of presidential debate The game that I created with my co-creator jan teesdale They uh, we we're doing a big sale for the entire independence week. It's so bogus that uh, july 4th is on Uh, Wednesday, so we're extending this thing throughout the entire week. 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They made my birthday dreams come true patrons patriots Wonderful, you know, uh, whether it whether you're automated or not Patrick calls them patriot or whatever the french Uh way of saying that is on well around the vutek. So Figured with independence day happening. We should steal that Absolutely like we did all of our ideas from the french have um I mentioned in good day internet pre-show that I haven't really been following the world cup For no good reason. I I actually like the world cup a lot. I just whatever Um, did everybody see uh the brazil mexico game? I watched the end of it this morning. Yeah Yeah, I saw the middle of it because I had to get on a flight, but it it seemed uh Uh Like uh, mexico really kind of had their shot in in the first half and just couldn't push through I mean, it's brazil Yeah, like I didn't bring it up because I actually yeah, like I I don't have a dog in the fight But I you know brazil is always so good Or yes I don't really do that right. Um, but yeah, brazil is always so good. It's like Well, yeah, the belgium japan game was crazy because japan was up 2o and then belgium came back and tied it And it looked like it was going to go into extra time and then belgium scored in stoppage time Uh, and won the right to get beaten by brazil Well, I'll tell you what though this weekend was murder for for the big heavyweights, right? Right. No, exactly I mean, I say that flippantly, but But yeah, Spain out to russia of all people. Tom merit last uh thursday called it Should have taken uh tom's advice to vegas It's three to one for russia. I gotta make some real money just betting on either hometown cooking or some uh, Putin hijinks either way came in and uh What's it called? Uh Croatia in in portugal Oh, yeah, yeah Well, okay, so here's a question for you justin because I I'm I'm a fan of march madness And being in vegas, you know and doing my little thing Is there a world cup kind of buzz going on there where there's betting or? Oh, yeah, so I mean, I know I know it's true. It just I guess I've never really noticed it before well, uh People like betting obviously. Yeah people number one like betting people number two, uh come from all over the world Uh to vegas and so you will see many for such an international event You will see many international flavors represented Uh, I know it was certainly a big highly advertised thing that mexico brazil game specifically They they're not as much advertising as you are going to ever see for an event happening at six o'clock on a monday morning Uh in in in vegas for that game. So, uh, I do know through conversations with uh sources within the professional vegas, uh gambling ecosystem that The big the vegas is very happy today because the two teams that they really would have felt the pain If they would have gone through to the end of the tournament what were portugal And mexico meaning that a lot of people bet portugal and mexico they they apparently could not set The the uh the line high enough for mexico The mexican people just wanted Ow they wanted money on that and uh brazil wins So vegas wins and uh, they move on What are we calling this roger? um They're sticking to the man comma robot And there's also i got 500 picks but cc ain't one That's good, but yeah Um automation status. It's complicated. I don't know nothing I want to do something with automation and let's see Yeah, it's automation for the people I like that one. Yeah, like that's like a r.a.m. Thing. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah, I like that. Ah What happened was already used every once in a while If I try to edit too many id3 tags in audacity it crashes and then I have to Redo all of them see I use id3 Uh editor. No, I use id3 editor too, but when I'm saving it from audacity I'm it doesn't make sense to not put the proper id3 tags in there But if you're Because i'm there it's faster Except that it crashes Usually doesn't Because I'm not changing the title three times usually I'm just changing it once Yeah No, I know you you've mentioned that where you're like, uh, like save certain things where I'm like I actually type everything out in id3 editor every time It would be nice for it to save a few things, but Yeah What are you gonna do As they say in liverpool, what are you gonna do? Did they say that there? Well, I don't know my liver poodly and next door neighbor says it a lot. The lapution What are you gonna do? You know, it's funny. So so A friend of mine who um, I would say I don't know, uh, we grew up in Different societies. I don't know. Um grew up differently from different worlds from different worlds. Yeah Um, I said something You said something the other day and I said I'll say and he's like You'll say what No, you know, it's like a just an expression like I'm agreeing with you and he was like I guess I write it's like It I was like, you're kidding me. You never heard of a friend. He's like, no, I like it though I like it It's like a you know, it's you're you're giving it emphasis And I said it again, you know, and he was like you're doing you're that there's that phrase again I'll say well, I never that's what you should say Well be and he'll be like never what Be what? It's just it's just funny certain things. I'm like, I guess that is kind of weird. I never really thought about it I thought everybody knew that but you know Uh, right. He's just a hamper I just know that that's not a real Yeah, what's that mean? You know when a cat's in a hamper means they're comfortable and probably Like a cat in the bag Like a pig in a poke Bird in the bush two in the You're two birds in the bush is worth two in the hamper Why how the birds get the hamper I have no idea I just I honestly I'm like maybe I sound like an old person But I said all the time. I'll say It doesn't sound that weird to me, but I guess it's kind of old-fashioned It was something I was here in a fifties movie, but I think I say it too, right, right. That was so funny That just it's funny when someone Point something like that out like what's that? What it what is that? But what's that weird expression that you're using I get that with Eileen sometimes Especially if I use something that's very Midwestern. It should be like, I don't know what that means Like what's an example? I can only think of really extreme examples, but sometimes it happens with Oh, oh the one I don't want to embarrass her too much, but the one she always gets wrong is modus operandi Oh, oh that classic midwest I'm like, I don't So the the midwestern one I could think of is can't dance too wet to plow which no one says even in the midwest anymore Never never wanted that. Yeah, um, I don't know. I can't figure Oh good ones It's my mo There are definitely some midwestern phrases that I know enough people from the midwest that I'm like I'm not like what what are you saying? But I'm like, oh, you're like a that's that's a chicago thing You know or cars roached right We're calling a guy guy Or to me I'm like that's kind of like you don't really call somebody guy Yeah, but but you know like hey, uh, uh, watch it Like hey guy. Yeah, watch it. Watch it guy. Like to me. I'm like, yeah, it's like buddy Like buddy or bro or friend. Yeah, I'm not your friend I just I and maybe I'm wrong, but I've only noticed this from the people of greater chicago land saying And it not be like sort of Yeah, but what would you say? What would be the turn you would use otherwise if it's not like hey, buddy Like hey dude. Hey guy. Hey, man Hey, hey, hey pal Hey chief Hey boss Yeah She I I mean I would use Watch yourself um, so And justin probably has some south florida versions of this as well Yeah, I I don't know what because south florida is a weird thing unless you're doing spanish stuff like Then in general south florida. It's just such a hodgepodge that'll Well, you said that made it sound like a euphemism for something unless you're doing less you're doing spanish Yeah, those two they're always out doing spanish stuff Like justin did you see the video of the guy who was on the hood of the car? Oh, yeah That yeah, and the way it was presented I don't I don't remember where I thought it was probably on instagram, but the way it was presented is florida I mean look only in florida. It's a wacky place with wacky people. It's so great. I love it dearly Wonderful. Yeah But yeah, I would I would say that 90 percent of the slang from south florida is just slang from other places Because so many people from south florida are from from other places Um, I was gonna move the conversation to uh, the the the sport story of of the hour lebron Oh my gosh. Oh, yeah, I even shrieked I I got so many texts from people yesterday, even though it's like i'm not a laker fan I'm a warrior fan. So, you know, arguably not a lebron fan and just like what are you gonna do? I'm like nothing I'm just very excited for all of those games in division, which I think it's what six or eight games Uh in in division between those two teams It will all exclusively be watched in person by millionaires There will be no way that anybody who yeah, you mean the warriors in the lakers. Yeah Yeah It's the warriors didn't already have enough celebrities and really at this point the or the lakers rather and the warriors as well It's like that that's that's the game to be court-side at Well, the lakers have been losing mindshare here to the clippers much to the laker fans chagrin They don't want my wife included don't want to admit it But people have been sort of like hey the clippers are pretty good. Steve balmers doing a good job with them So the lakers are you know, the lakers just swings that right back Yeah, the the lakers were you know young team this year and again I'm not a fan, but I'm not like a laker hater either. I don't really care either way once kobi was gone But uh, but but but it The you know the team already had quite a bit of promise, but like lebron coming to the team just Screws all of that. Now. It's just him and like who can support him if he doesn't get injured Yeah, what she never does. He's not human. He will eventually I you know, what is he 33 34? I mean This is a game ever But he will eventually he's not a robot. I mean sure like yes, I understand like that economic Proposal, I understand where you're coming from, but I've yet to see any kind of tangible This is just maybe and like he's a superhuman Might be a robot if he was actually a normal human he would get hurt eventually, but he might not But he might just play forever and just get better. Well, you know the rumor is That and he signed a longer contract But the rumor is that he wants to play until he can play with his son And his son is now just entering high school There is a rumor that Or now currently this is something we're discussing to eliminate the one and done rule meaning kids could come right out of high school like lebron did and that it would be a a lebron wants to play either in la with his son or Uh would go to whatever team drafted his son. He wants to play with his son I could see that That would be epic in a weird way but I don't know. I mean is his son good enough to be drafted out of high school. No, the Yeah, he's he's apparently really really really really good. Oh, well Well, how about that? Yeah I was also really really good at basketball on high school and had an opportunity to be drafted But I just decided to go to college instead Well, there's news and sports. 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