 Today, I am so excited to talk with David Lawn. He's an entrepreneur, musician, engineer, and he has brought something that's really unique and really valuable to help everybody achieve better health and more happiness. So I want to welcome you, David, to be on the show. Thanks, Joy. Glad to be here. I'm so intrigued because you are the inventor of what's called cheek oil. So when I heard you talking about it, I just thought, OK, everybody can benefit from this. And I read some reviews online about your product. Some people's pet were getting great benefits and it just wonderful. So you named your device cheek oil. And you're also a martial artist, right? So can you tell me a little bit about how you came up with cheek oil? I was chronically ill with a digestive disorder that was incurable. And I was searching for 10 years for a solution. I tried everything. And I almost gave up. And I couldn't hear myself. I was suffering every day. Then I was experimenting with some frequency technologies. I created my own device because all the other devices out there were really hard to use and they didn't work there that well. Initially, I just wanted something to help me get into deeper states of meditation. What I got was not just deeper state of meditation actually healed myself in 90 days. To my surprise, I said, well, when I first turned it on, I felt something in my gut. I never felt before with anything else I did. So I stopped all the medications. I stopped all the other therapies I was doing. I just did frequency therapy. That's all I did. So I got to get my dad to use this. I got to get my family to use this. My mom had a stroke a couple of years back. And the moment she used the cheek oil in five minutes, the pain went down 6 to 80%. And then she was able to walk a lot better. And you tried other devices, the other PMF devices before cheek oil? Yeah, I was trying different devices. I would try some similar devices to PMF therapy. So then after you designed your device, I'm sure you went back to compare with other PMF devices. What was your impression? Yeah, afterwards I started using some mats, PMF pads, and things like that. And there's just no comparison, right? Cheek oil is not just PMF. There's about five different technologies inside the cheek oils. There is PMF. There's a variety of frequencies, which we have 10,000 of them, 10,000 programs. There's also crystal resonance therapy. And there's also sound therapy. So we combine many different modalities. What we have is something that's contactless. You don't need to make any contact. You can simply put it on a desk in front of you when you work and you're receiving the therapy. You can simply put it on your coffee table and the people around your living area will be receiving the therapy. It's very compact. You can carry with you. You can't bring a mat with you to go to the gym or do yoga or go for a walk. But these ones you can put in your pocket, put it in your purse. Yeah, and what's the range? How far away can you be from the device and still receive benefits? Yeah, it depends on the size. So starting with our minis, we'll go about three feet. And all the way up to our maxes, which is about 20 feet. So we'll cover a whole room. I think energy medicine is along with stem cell therapy. I think it's the future of medicine. I do think stem cell therapy, in a way, is energy therapy because DNA is the most energy-dense substance in the universe. And when we give people cells that contains DNA, the intelligence, which is energy itself, the intelligence contained is going to bring about profound change. And energy medicine, I think it's just becoming to be truly recognized because I think more and more people are accepting that we are energy beings. I think ancient people have recognized that, which came about, you know, we're talking about the device called Qi Coil. And Qi, of course, is the energy and essence in Chinese. And we have something called the Yin and Yang effect. So you look at some of the coils, they go in different directions. So this one is a Yin. And then the other one that goes in the other direction, we have it over there, see on the shelf. That one is Yang. And if you meditate and if you're sensitive, you can feel the difference. So the Yin would be expansive and opening and the Yang would be focusing and energizing. So when you use them together and you're in the middle, you'll feel this really profound balance, that really profound balance and calmness. So if the person wants to get the Yin and Yang, I mean, they have to get both, right? To stay balanced? It would help. If you use the Yin, most people will use the Yin. That's what you would use most of the time because I think most people are just stressed out and in tension all the time. So they need to relax and they need to expand and meditate. So the Yin helps you do that. The Yang is good for focus, for intense focus. So if you're exercising, you want to get into a weight loss program, you want to get more from your physical exertion, then you would use the Yang, right? If you want to really get into the zone for meditating and you use both at the same time. And you have a range of products. So I know there's one that's very large, it's good for covering the entire house. Yeah, you see this one here. It's called the Auric Oil Med Bed System. This is actually the 14 inch. We actually have one twice as big as that. And that would cover the area of a whole house or you can put it under a bed and you would basically turn any bed into a med bed. So you hear about these med beds that people spend like 20 or $30,000 to get. Well, now you can just spend a fraction of that and turn any bed into a med bed. And I know you've developed this really cool app that actually that's how the Qi Coil is used, right? It's connected to your phone and then you can play a different app. Can you talk a little bit about how the app works? Yeah, so the app, there's two apps right now. One is called the Qi Coil app. It looks like this. These will have what we call the quantum and higher quantum frequencies. So the other one is called the Rife app. It looks like this and these have Rife frequencies. But basically they are just way more dimensions. Like, let's say you listening to just one note. This would be like listening to a whole symphony orchestra playing at the same time. How does somebody know whether or not to use the quantum program or the Rife program? You can use both. The Rife program has 10,000 different frequencies. So if you have any kind of issue that you wanna deal with, 10,000 different programs you can search. So for example, if we type sleep, there'll be about six programs that you can use. Now the Qi Coil one, people say is more of a spiritual type of app because we have frequencies for remove negative energy, frequencies for enlighten, meditate, and abundance. There are also some very special frequencies in here. For example, there's supplements and substances like DMT and that are not on the other app. And how we made that, we actually take the molecular structure of DMT and then we calculate all the angles and all the different molecular width weights and then we convert it into a frequency. So you're combining all these different technologies. I've seen hundreds and hundreds of reviews, glowing reviews about your device online. What kind of benefits have you seen that's stuck in your mind about what people have noticed? I think a lot of people get the coil for many reasons. Number one is sleep, anxiety, and stress. Some kind of mental health that they need to improve. And this works really well for that without any mitigation. And then there's the healing aspect or the wellness aspect. A lot of people have certain conditions and health conditions that they've been dealing with chronically because when you're sick and when I was sick, I was just so tired and my energy was so sucked out from me from my disease. And I just needed that extra kick that would get me into the positive instead of keeping me in the negative. Yeah, that's so wonderful to hear. And how often should a person use the device? I mean, basically is there a threshold and a recommended frequency to use? So we use the term dosage when we take medicine, right? There's a similar kind of dosage when you use the coils. A higher dosage would mean just using it longer or a higher dosage would mean just turning up the power. So increasing the strength of the magnetic field. Depending on how sensitive you are to electromagnetic fields, then you'll need a stronger or lower dose, okay? So that's different for everybody. It's it, if you're trying to help a particular area of the body, is it better to just put it on that part of the body? Yeah, you would do that, right? So let's say you have some shoulder pain. You would put it in your shoulder and you'd leave it there. You have a stomach ache and you put it on your tummy and pain. Every time my dog, let's say spring in his leg or something like that, I would use this and then just put it near him where he's sleeping and then they recover a lot faster. We don't need any antibiotics or painkillers and things like that. The coils are just like a lifesaver and a money saver when it comes to pets. Amazing. What a nice thing to have as a tool. So when you were designing this device, how were you inspired as far as the shape and how did you come up with the different shapes? This is called a toroid. You see, there's a lot of research done into fusion reactors. For example, there's a fusion reactor called the tokamak and it's shaped like a toroid. And they use that shape specifically because they found that that shape is able to generate unlimited energy. We look at the shape of the Earth's magnetic field is also in the toroid. If you measure the shape of the magnetic field of your heart or your body, it's also in the toroid. So this is a natural shape that occurs for electromagnetic field. So I decided why not create something that mimics what nature has already. So you did testing that whatever sound or frequency was sent through, you found that it was magnified through this device. Well, okay, you see, there's people that make electromagnetic devices, but they don't make it like this. What they'll do is they'll probably use a big, there's a flat pancake to create a field. And when you do that, your field will be about like 50 to 100 times less amplitude. Just by using this shape, this creates a very focused magnetic field that's much higher than two-dimensional design. What kind of advice do you give to people as far as choosing a good device for themselves? Yeah, so if you go to the store on the front page, you're gonna see four models, the mini, the 2S, the 3S and the max. So as I mentioned before, they're just different in size and different in the strength of the magnetic field. So if you're just starting out, if you just want something to try out and you want something that's small and compact, then you would just get the mini. So the step up from there is the 2S, which is three inches. So about a little bit smaller than this one. And that one is like the standard model and it has about eight to nine feet range. And then after that will be this one, which is the 3S. And this one will have about 11 feet range. And also this one has the crystals inside. There's three quantinium crystals. So if you actually take off all the wires, they look like this. So that's the crystalline argon. There's actually holes here where we insert those crystals. They'll have those crystals. And the reason we have crystals in there is because these crystals can hold memory. Just like your computer chips hold memory, all crystals actually hold resonance and hold vibration and frequencies. So even if you're not powering the coils, after you use them, you would have program these crystals with whatever frequencies you're using. And then the next level up will be the max, which is five inches. It's a lot bigger. They have two layers of winding instead of just one. So these can go up to 20 feet. So a small room will be good. The only thing is that they're pretty big, so not portable. Yeah, that's wonderful. So I mentioned earlier that there's mental health and then there's like health conditions, but there's also the meditative and spiritual aspect. With these coils, what happens is that not only do you energize your body, you actually start to activate certain parts of your chakra. You'd actually be able to activate your pineal gland inside of your brain. If you don't know what a pineal gland is, it's a little tiny gland in the center of your brain that produces DMT, right? So it actually produces a molecule that is attributed to intuition, attributed to dreams, having more creativity, more spiritually speaking. It opens your third eye. It actually helps you to be more psychic, more telepathic, if you believe in that stuff, right? Sometimes when you're thinking of a song and then that song starts to play, or sometimes when you're thinking of a person and that person text messages you, what you'll find is that by using these, you start to have more awareness. Awareness starts to expand. So really that's like been infused with Qi, with life force, right? I think there are some of the benefits that I heard about from Qi Gong, because growing up in China, people started talking about using Qi Gong and how that enhances every aspect of their lives, including spiritual awakening. So that's literally what you were describing. Exactly. And people have thought of Qi as just some kind of esoteric thing that doesn't really exist, or just based on imagination. But now I actually have a technology that you can measure. It's empirical. You can see the results. You switch the frequency and the person gets sleepy. You switch it back and the person gets energized and he gets sleepy and energized and back and forth. It's like a speech. So when I tell people, it's like, what was Qi Gong? I can sum it into two things. Number one, it is like a wireless charger for your body. You know how phones can charge wirelessly and just put it on a plate and then it charges? Same thing. It's like a wireless charger at a party. You just need to be near it and then your cells automatically get charged up. You get more energy. The second way is like the Spotify for your mind. You know what it's like? So like Spotify, you choose your mood, right? Oh, I want to listen to some relaxing music. I want some like workout music. I want this and that, right? Yeah. Same thing. So you can use our app. You can choose whatever emotion and whatever feeling, whatever spiritual enlightenment you want. You turn on the coil and now it's like Spotify for your mind. You can choose whatever you want. You have, you can regulate your mood. You can regulate your spiritual experience with the technology. Yeah, this is wonderful. And I'm so excited. I'm just showed it. So I just got this today in the mail. I'm really, really excited to try this. You know, who doesn't need enhancements, right? Yeah. So I thank you so much for coming on the show. I think you provided, you know, wealth of information and you're going to help so many people. So thank you for your tenacity and for you using your creativity and talents to bring this into the world. You're welcome. And I'm looking forward to helping you and helping all your audience to transform their lives and become the most that they can be. Wonderful.